Predator Commentary. Rafiullah Ahmadi (PhilosophyGuy)
Added 2025-03-20 20:07:29 +0000 UTC
This one turned out ot be quite the chat log monster. Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed this one.
Back to sleep for me now. Speak soon.
Dave
black women catching strays for no reason 😭
Ajahni Wilson
2025-05-11 00:15:02 +0000 UTC
I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at pedophilia!
Armadillo
2025-04-03 02:53:31 +0000 UTC
Him saying he was going to throw everything away makes me think he has CP especially since he asked if it was recording right after.
MYKLL SHER
2025-04-01 20:11:24 +0000 UTC
Hahah it's easy to look Intelligent when you're up against these sort of guys.
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-24 21:39:21 +0000 UTC
100 percent!! Maybe I should recruit him for my discord server haha
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-24 21:38:36 +0000 UTC
Rrrrrealllly? Laugh out loud 🤣
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-24 21:38:04 +0000 UTC
You should see me first thing in the mornings, you may take that back haha
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-24 21:37:37 +0000 UTC
I believe it was Travis Fowler over on the main lemonade channel. Or do you mean which was the first Patreon only one?
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-24 21:37:03 +0000 UTC
The only true philosopher in this video is you, Dave! Great work on the VO!
Jeff
2025-03-23 16:17:22 +0000 UTC
Gives big discord mod vibes
Shelby Nichols
2025-03-23 06:00:05 +0000 UTC
Which commentary was your first one?
Bottles
2025-03-23 02:34:01 +0000 UTC
I gotta say you are one young looking 37 year old, Dave
the dozer 820
2025-03-22 23:46:55 +0000 UTC
I thought your assessment was fair! Because associating “incorrect English” with Blackness is very much racism. And it does tie into your previous assessment that this man has a weird obsession with “purity.” Evoking Blackness as antithetical to intelligence or properness (things he deems “good” and are of high value to him) speaks volumes about how he feels about Black people. And especially Black girls in particular in this instance.
He could’ve easily said “Stop speaking like that, I can’t understand you” without bringing up race. OP trying to paint you as in the wrong for pointing that out speaks more about him than about you and your intent.
I mean all that to say, you didn’t do anything wrong.
Naj.
2025-03-22 23:05:37 +0000 UTC
They used the linking park singer before he died if I recall correctly. He actually got close to pulling the lever an someone commented " He tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end, it didn't even matter. " Yeah I don't watch it for the gore I watch it for the story line an Tobin Bell (John Kramer)
Brandon
2025-03-22 17:49:30 +0000 UTC
Bro your rolled "R"s are crrrriminal 😂
Yori Johnson
2025-03-22 05:52:54 +0000 UTC
Are you referring to him talking about how he was once in love?
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 02:02:06 +0000 UTC
sampled tms
2025-03-22 01:42:57 +0000 UTC
Perfect reply man, you're awesome.
Aarom Miller
2025-03-22 00:15:44 +0000 UTC
Hey Dave I really admire your ability to approach Topics that are both uncomfortable and subjective. I can tell you from the perspective of a black woman, you handled the portion well and am glad that you pointed it out. This is an extremely common micro aggression myself and many other black people face on a daily basis. Complacency is not the way to fight injustice and has never been. I hope in your efforts to implement constructive criticism you continue to be authentic 🖤🖤
Ayisha
2025-03-22 00:07:23 +0000 UTC
If doesn't feel like community engagement to me. Just hanging out with some friends!
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 00:06:19 +0000 UTC
On top of it with community engagement too. You're the man!
Aarom Miller
2025-03-22 00:05:07 +0000 UTC
I still don't have the ability to watch the saw movies because I'm not great with gore.. but my gosh, I do love watching breakdowns of them on YouTube! Jigsaw... You twisted, yet relatable man ...
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 00:03:06 +0000 UTC
I was rolling in laughter at some points while reading the log for this very reason. She absolutely cannot stand him! And it's been funnier to see how damn friendly she was to kosis hahaha
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 00:02:21 +0000 UTC
Yeah.. I really really don't think this guy has much chance of future redemption..
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 00:01:49 +0000 UTC
My personal favourite were the profound quotes from our doctor of philosophy
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 00:01:16 +0000 UTC
Haha I had absolutely no idea what I was signing up for with the philosophy guy aaha I thought we'd be able to get him done and dusted in 2-3 days max and before I knew it, I was writing a novel about his chat log ...
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-22 00:00:37 +0000 UTC
"I want a nice and short predatory commentary that I can get done quick."
*drops a movie like a week later* 🤣🤣 Dave you're an animal. An absolute legend at your craft.
Aarom Miller
2025-03-21 23:59:28 +0000 UTC
Thanks for not freaking out and being quite rational with your response, Thomas. I am quite used to outbursts, especially when it may seem that one's opinion could be in the minority.
After much thought I've come to the decision I'll leave this section of video as is. But the conversation overall has most definitely sparked thought within me. Whenever I approach the discussion of racism in the future, I'll for sure be putting more thought into it than I did when I approached this one.
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-21 23:39:01 +0000 UTC
All, you have fair criticism towards my comment. It was very much incomplete and missing a massive amount of context (my fault).
My whole intent was to say stop creating or fabricating racism where it doesn't need to be.
My comment is in no way to say that you haven't experienced racism nor that it is fake.
My intent is to implement the great advise of Morgan Freeman when he said "racism would likely die on its own if people just stopped talking about race period"
I will take your criticism and feedback. Thank you
Thomas
2025-03-21 21:14:52 +0000 UTC
Your commentary on this predator video is fantastic! I LOL-ed 😂
Lpez8
2025-03-21 21:01:06 +0000 UTC
i thought the same thing! wdym “only racists see racism”??? you can acknowledge racism without being racist, that just doesn’t make any sense
jord !
2025-03-21 15:38:52 +0000 UTC
I do! I play viola, and cello and used to sing, but that's a long time ago lol. I will have to give the link sheet another look. Thank you for sharing that with us!
Also pls send them!
Rofaren
2025-03-21 15:38:08 +0000 UTC
So when people call me and my family n******, it’s actually me being racist and not them? Let’s think critically.
Ayisha
2025-03-21 14:29:31 +0000 UTC
Racist AND a pedo? Pick a struggle 😭
Ayisha
2025-03-21 14:25:58 +0000 UTC
The decoy just straight up hating this guy openly has me giggling
telephonerust
2025-03-21 13:51:28 +0000 UTC
Personally I just finished resoldering an out of phase neck pickup on a Fender Telecaster and I wish I’d noticed this video was up, it could’ve been the perfect soundtrack for my ineptitude at soldering! Thanks Dave ❤️
Alan Holding
2025-03-21 11:31:09 +0000 UTC
10/10, no notes
Alan Holding
2025-03-21 11:25:17 +0000 UTC
really weird take, Thomas. i think anyone who has experienced racism has the ability to notice/call it out. even those who haven’t been the recipient can notice it lol what are you actually talking about? do you feel a type of way when Dave analyzes the types of manipulative behaviors the predators exhibit? birds of feather, no?
ding
2025-03-21 11:15:18 +0000 UTC
Jigsaw handled it perfectly " We are all the same color on the inside!" Hello, Evan. I want to play a game. The situation you find yourself in is of your own doing. You, your girlfriend and your friends are all racists. You have intimidated others based on their physical differences, but today it is you who will run scared. Your pathetic friends follow your every word, Evan. Therefore, you will be the only one capable of saving them and yourself. In 30 seconds, the jacks holding up this car will fall, setting off a deadly chain of events. In order to stop this from happening, you must tear yourself away from the seat to which you are glued. Then you must pull the red lever before you. But no act comes without a sacrifice. You've judged others by the color of their skin and today, Evan, you will learn that we are all the same color on the inside. Live or die, Evan. The choice is yours.
Brandon
2025-03-21 10:29:04 +0000 UTC
Hi, Tomas. A thank you as well for being here so long!
Initially I had thought of the possibility that race was a contributing factor to this man's "dating"... or should I say, targeting preference. Ultimately I chose to not comment on that because there was no direct words from him indicating that to be the case.
The whole racism thought breakdown in my mind came down to his decision to portray a style of language which he attributed to "black girls" as a negative, less intelligent thing.
I used to think racism was all about crazy people wearing white sheets and refusing to associate with people of a certain colour. Over the years I've come to learn that it's much more subtle. I thought that this section of chat log was a really good way to highlight how that can play out.
I'm certain Raf (PhilosophyGuy) didn't think that he was being racist when he said what he said. But on a subconscious level, I felt an underlying sense that he looks down on an entire community. By telling the decoy, who's white, to not speak like a black girl, it read to me as though he was telling her that she's better than a whole group of people. It didn't make sense to me why he would involve colour into that conversation when he could've easily said something such as, "Please use proper English, shortening words makes you sound silly"
Or, If he had said something along the lines of "You're white, not black, you can't pull that sort of lingo off" then I wouldn't have brought up any of that racism stuff at all in the video.
It all came down to his choice of words which i found interesting to dig into. He may very well not be racist and merely phrased his thoughts quite poorly, and I imagine that's what Thomas is feeling when he heard that section of my video. I do understand that this topic is very sensitive right now in America.
To Thomas, and possibly many others, It may have seemed like I was over reacting over something as simple as poor word choice. Almost like I'm looking for a problem where there is none.
For me to reflect inwards on the racism thoughts I had. I can't say I ever grew up in a family or setting where race was any sort of issue in regards to my family not liking a certain group of people. My school was multi cultural and If anything I remember experiencing racism myself. In a range of ways. As mentioned, I'm part Arabic and that brought me a lot of trouble. The "Aussie white kids" wouldn't associate with me in school. I wouldn't get let into clubs or pubs because I was a "wog". I even remember once this old lady getting up to move away from me when I sat on a train seat next to her, then I over heard her talking to someone else about how "those people" shouldn't be let into the country.
I really only learned about racism on a more global and less self focussed scale well into my late teen years when I started to learn more about American culture.
Side note, in Australia we have a major issue with the general population viewing indigenous Australians (who are black) as a "problem". That is a whole other conversation though because the issues there are insanely complicated. I imagine the conversation about that would look very similar to the issues surrounding indigenous American's.
Homophobia here is a different story, although, another topic for another day. That was, and still is a major issue in Australia, at least Western Sydney where I grew up.
I appreciate your comment. I won't lie, I was spending a lot of time reflecting on my thoughts and experiences regarding this issue, reading your comment has helped to ease my mind a little.
In saying that, I still am very interested to hear what Thomas has to say. I love hearing different perspectives and I imagine we are all friends here and share a level of respect for one another. If someone is on this page, they like my content and my thoughts, and I believe that whoever is here, they're likely someone that I could connect with seeing as I put so much of myself into each video.
So i'm not dismissive of Thomas's position and look forward to hearing his view, if he chooses to share it.
Thanks for reading my novel btw haha
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-21 08:16:23 +0000 UTC
I may be reading to much in to this, but I think Thomas may be trying to dissuade you from calling out racism when you see it by saying that the only people who talk about racism are racists. The irony of course being that it tends to be racists that try to quiet down conversation on the topic.
Regarding the point in the chat, I do think it was pretty blatant racism. The only reason to learn one's race that early in to a conversation is if the continuation of that conversation depends on the race given. You could call it a dating preference, but again if their race is the only factor that prevents you from wanting to date someone, yes that is racism.
I will say that racism itself is a more complicated topic than outward expression alone. In America I grew up in a relatively progressive family (Christians but less vocal about the everyone going to hell bit) but even then through family, school, the internet, essentially everyone around me. I learned racism, homophobia, there was some transphobia but there would have been more if trans people were more prevalent in society then. As an adult, I fight against it. I advocate for rights for all people. Even then, you can't escape the ingrained "first thought". Things may be different in Australia, for example there may not have been as many race targeting laws in the past or there may have been less talking about other groups of people behind their backs, but I suspect highly our op friend is more than likely from a background similar to mine, but rather than fight against it, they want to sweep it under the proverbial rug. Also a long time viewer btw
All in all, it's worth looking in to history and reflecting on your own thoughts for the racism question. I wouldn't take the claim that talking about racism makes you racist seriously.
Tomas Garcia
2025-03-21 07:22:36 +0000 UTC
Ding! This one went over my head. I'm going to have to look up decarte and dehorse haha
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-21 05:05:17 +0000 UTC
Hope you enjoyed it!
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-21 05:04:57 +0000 UTC
Hope cleaning went well, I do love a house clean myself!
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-21 05:04:50 +0000 UTC
Thomas, for starters thank you for watching so long and being kind with your criticism.
You know me by now and that I'm always open to listening to, and understanding criticism.
I have to admit, I most definitely didn't expect that when I wrote that part, but it doesn't mean I'm not taking what you're saying seriously.
When I was a younger man, there was a lady I was dating and at the time she helped me understand a few negative parts of my personality which I truly thought were not a part of me up until that point. But through understanding her reasons and knowing it came from a place of care, I was able to see what she was talking about. Most of it all revolved around the way I delivered criticism to others and how I could make people feel with my blunt nature. I thought I was very soft in how I approached others but she helped me realise that there was absolutely more work I could put in to understanding my approach to communication.
What I'm saying is, I am very open to understanding and working on bettering myself if it needs to happen. In saying that though, I don't believe I harbour any underlying issues that I myself may be racist. I actually feel quite confident in that belief. But I do want to hear you out.
I want to understand what you're saying because if there's even the slight chance that there's a part of my personality that could view things in a manner which I deem to be unpleasant, I would like to understand and address that.
So first. For you to say that only racists see racism. That indicates to me that this section of chat log that I highlighted, you did not view it as racism.
Would you be able to give me your interpretation of that moment ?
Also, would you be able to give me a run down regarding what you view my words held in terms of underlying racism?
When I wrote it, I thought I was witnessing blatant racism, so I had no issues calling it out as I suspected it was obvious to see. I've grown up in an area that is very multicultural, lots of different colours and people all mixed Into a melting pot together. If I had ever heard anyone say that another should stop talking like a (insert colour) person here. My automatic assumption is that they don't like that group of people.
So if you can answer those questions it will help me to understand my own views better. Whether I change my stance or feel more confident in my thoughts, I'll understand myself better.
Also, you absolutely don't have to answer. It's not your job to try make me see something that might seem obvious to you.
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-21 04:40:09 +0000 UTC
I absolutely love your content and have followed you for years (fourth predator video)...however, on your recent racism references I have to point out that only racist's sees racism. Another way I can put this is "birds of feather flock together."
Please drop this angle in your commentary.
Much love Dave, You are favorite content creator!
Thomas
2025-03-21 03:42:27 +0000 UTC
mr philosophy putting the decarte before the dehorse. go figure
ding
2025-03-21 02:09:36 +0000 UTC
Ahhh I’m so excited ! >:3 LETS GOOOO
Paulina Santibanez
2025-03-21 00:42:52 +0000 UTC
Been subbed since you first made this Patreon. Being able to rely on a new predator vid to clean my house or cook to makes me so happy. Thank you always Dave!
Misha
2025-03-21 00:06:39 +0000 UTC
I can't believe he's "just watching a movie." Either he's found another chat where his prospects look better or someone at home is restricting his ability to chat. The only other feasible reason is to check if she is "needy" enough to take his controlling behavior. If you thought your fantasy was about to come true, you'd be engaged. If you are, I hate to say it, interested in someone then you'd say to them that there's a movie you're going to watch later. It wouldn't be this constant sudden drop.
PityTheHateful
2025-03-20 21:29:44 +0000 UTC
A bedtime snack for my ears ~ thank you
nigghtcore
2025-03-20 21:27:48 +0000 UTC
No, that would be you! Been on this wild ride with you for like...4 years? Lol. Can't stop won't stop bay-bee.
Chantal Harris
2025-03-20 20:55:57 +0000 UTC
Do you play any instrument?
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:43:02 +0000 UTC
*kosis
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:42:29 +0000 UTC
Thanks for watching, Helen!
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:42:21 +0000 UTC
I hope this one tickles that spot. I found it most definitely interesting to work on, a nice change after all that kosid nonsense haha
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:42:13 +0000 UTC
You the best!!
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:41:43 +0000 UTC
Thank you for watching :)
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:41:35 +0000 UTC
I hope It keeps getting better and better from here as well.
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:41:26 +0000 UTC
Welllll. If you look at the link sheet, there's a tab there called extras and it has all the music I generally use in the videos and more.
If you can't find it let me know.
Also, there's a few places floating around online that has music I've made. I can track them down and send if you like!
Dave's Lemonade
2025-03-20 20:41:08 +0000 UTC
WIFE WAKE UP DAVE POSTED NEW PRED COMMENTARY! I still would love to see music or jamlist added somewhere, especially since he does the outro himself. 10/10 Would jam with Dave for more than the minute we get at the end ^_^
Rofaren
2025-03-20 20:30:23 +0000 UTC
Yes!! Well today just got a whole lot better!!!!
MK2222
2025-03-20 20:23:43 +0000 UTC
OH MY GODD YES
*Construct additional pylons *
2025-03-20 20:12:08 +0000 UTC
AAAAAAAH! This is why I turned push notifications on for Patreon 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Chantal Harris
2025-03-20 20:09:11 +0000 UTC
Can’t wait to watch!! I’ve been rewatching old ones all day
Keith Dosik
2025-03-20 20:08:32 +0000 UTC
Perfect timing. Thank you.
PityTheHateful
2025-03-20 20:08:16 +0000 UTC