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Anybody else just hangin' around waiting for 4x07? lol

Michael M

True. 99 percent of reaction channels are pure clickbaut cringe. This channel is on an entirely different kevel.

Julmor

It's nice to know that even Don understands how special that pitch was. Here he is, trying to re-use it. Sometimes you wonder if he is entirely cynical about what he is selling, but that carousel stuff about family, and returning home to somewhere you are loved, was the real deal.

Mike

Drunk Don always makes me laugh in this episode - "little kid, big spoon, big bowl"

Mark M

https://ibb.co/JR1Nj2PW

Father of the Year

This episode has a bunch of crisscrossing threads about creativity and who gets "credit" for creative work, and I really appreciate how it doesn't quite land on a final statement about the process. Peggy spends the episode feeling hurt over Don taking all the credit for Glo-Coat, even though she had a hand in its inception. She also has (understandable) frustrations with Stan's creative process, which involves looking at porn for some reason (shout out to Jay Landsman). And in the end, she puts her head down and kind of brute-forces the Vicks idea. (The way that she lists the possible use cases for the cough drops is identical to her brainstorming process in "My Old Kentucky Home" when they were writing for Bacardi.) It would be easy for the show to say that Peggy has it right -- that Don should be giving her more credit, and that hard work is what you need to succeed. But we've seen Don pull great ideas out of thin air too many times on this show -- starting with "it's toasted' in the very first episode -- to believe that Mad Men doesn't have some romantic ideas about inspiration. On the other hand there's Roger, who just wants someone to give him credit for discovering and hiring Don (which he didn't do). We know that Roger isn't responsible for Don's ideas, but watching him be wrong about "deserving" credit for Don... Are we supposed to read that story as "Don is responsible for Don"? Because that doesn't really square with Peggy's story about deserving credit for Glo-Coat. And it really doesn't square with watching Don slur his way through a stolen Life Cereal pitch. There is a (valid) "your boss is always going to take credit for your work" reading to all of this -- gung'f jung gur zbarl vf sbe, nsgre nyy-- but I think there's an equally interesting reading that's saying something about how *anyone* trying to take credit for creativity is going about it wrong. Certainly I don't think Peggy is "right" that she deserves the credit for Glo-Coat. Not when we as viewers can clearly see how the ad is a reflection of Don's personal demons about his childhood. Sometimes, Mad Men episodes are like a Swiss watch, with finely-tuned A, B, and C plots working in harmony, pointing at a very clear theme. This one feels a lot more shaggy, and I like that about it.

Mike

God bless Peggy Olson, our girl has come so far

Jenny D

Peggy is hard worker (and gifted in her own right) and Don is an alcoholic (especially in these episodes) but I think it's off base to suggest that Don Draper isn't the straw that stirs the creative drink at SCDP. The man has his demons but one thing he *can* do right is advertising.

Mike

3 more days. 3.. more.. days..

Jamie

I am really looking forward to the next episode

BobJ

I love Mad Men because it trusts the audience. When Don says "Weren't you trying to get a break once?" they don't need to have Roger say anything, the girls (and us) know that Roger was born rich and never needed a break, and we see that on Roger's face + his wordless reaction. Every Mad Men episode has a dozen of these moments, it's just a really good show. I'm a sucker for every Mad Men flashback! I completely agree, it's so clear why a 20-something Betty modelling in Manhattan would fall for this boyish, smiling, handsome ambitious man. It's also obvious why her Dad would haaate him. Someone else pointed this out but we see Betty in Don's Fur Shop advert, and we know from prev season dialog that Betty met Don working that modelling job for the fur shop. Manhattan is a gigantic, small world. Love Peggy's girlboss moment with Stan. This could read badly imo but here it's really just Peggy affirming she's not some Catholic prude, she's a "business-woman" (for better + worse) and you know that Stan is gonna be 500% easier to work with moving forward. I think after Don + Peggy's beautiful scene in the S3 finale you expect them to have a more developed working relationship but here it seems almost the same as S3 Sterling Cooper. Another sloppy failure on Don's part probably. He will "spend the rest of his life trying to hire you" but once he hires you, then what? For a heavy drinker like Don it takes a serious bender to get this blackout drunk, we've only seen it a couple times in the show. You have correctly surmised he is fully off leash. This unleashed Don Draper, no wife + kids at home calling, is so much more dangerous. Imagine being so blackout drunk you tell a rando waitress your secret, extremely illegal true identity. Oof. Bonus Thoughts: Pete + Ken is fun and its nice to see Lane be the glue holding this shitshow together. As you mention Kiernan Shipka was in the credits but no Sally this episode, theory deleted! They casted the shortest king ever for the guy Don stole the ad from 💀 I think Faye is now beating Rachel for the "sensibly turning down Don Draper's relentless charming(?) advances" count.

Kara

Worth adding that while some child actors have true horror stories about the ways they were treated on set, off set, by parents etc, Kiernan Shipka (Sally) has only ever said good things about her time on Mad Men and especially about how Jon Hamm treated and supported her. “They were so protective over me and my kind of innocence and not exposing me to stuff that, you know, was sensitive or more adult,” [Kiernan Shipka] explained.

Kara

"Life - A Cure for the Common Breakfast" is the second-to-last slogan he utters. The camera immediately cuts to Peggy's face after he says that.

Sid

Regarding child actors doing questionable things in tv/film, depending on what it is and the age of the actor and all of that.. scenes are often not explained to them. They'll be directed to do things like "look at the TV curiously” or "hold onto your skirt" but they're not told why. This is true of totally innocent scenes as well, so it would not seem weird to them. They often only find out what they were reacting to when they watch it back later when they're older.

Jamie

Don in Season 7: "past be good, but also tiny pain here" *points at chest*

Nina

Peggy is now much more responsible for creative than Don is, contrasting with her having to do all the dirty work while Don blacks out for a full weekend, eventually acting like Don's boss when she tells him to fix his mistake. And then he just hires the guy and makes him her problem. Peggy's character arc (so far, no spoilies) is one of my favorites ever, it's so satisfying to see her go from the meek girl to the confident queen that she is, she knows her worth and she's experienced enough loudmouths to easily swat them away.

Nina

Reminds me of the scenes in Better Call Saul where Mike shows up at various workplaces, talks and moves with confidence and authority, and everyone around him just assumes he works there

Taya

Last year, somebody straight-up Don Draper'd themselves into a job at my work. We were hiring in one department, and he had worked in a seasonal position in an adjacent department, and the day he walked into the office the manager in the department that was hiring was out on vacation. The person in HR was brand-new (I think she started the week before?) so through this comical pileup of people being out and people being new, and this guy having worked here before, they thought he had been hired instead of coming in to apply. By the time the manager got back, he was already onboarded and being trained. He's still here, and doing good work. Yes, Don did use the slogan from the bad interview, but it was surrounded by a dozen other slogans he was running through at high-speed so I don't blame you for missing it. Danny Siegel definitely comes across like an idiot, but he managed to realize when he was in a position of power and he ran with that as far as he could. That takes at least SOME intelligence, so maybe he'll manage to actually work out. I think Pete suddenly being "the professional" of everybody at SCDP is an outgrowth of his extreme entitlement that we saw earlier in the show. He believes he is owed EVERYTHING. But he has learned that nobody is going to just give it to him, even though he deserves it. So, for him to get what he deserves, he has to climb the profesional ladder and make money and do it all for himself. So he has put his massive entitlement into motivation and drive to actually grow the company and do good work. He's still an immature child (like we saw with Ken), but now he's an immature child with ambition.

JBK405

In the flashbacks: "he looks so boyish..hopeful..Betty meeting him like this...falling in love...what the fuck happened" = assimilation to attain the American Dream happened, believing his self-hatred would also be present in society's view of Don if they knew who he really was. He became the Don that society sees, thus Don the ad man falling for his own propaganda: the American Dream - chasing and believing monetary success fixes all as seen best in the show's 2nd episode which asked "what is happiness?" and after realizing that maybe his wife is unhappy instead of having a simple conversation with her, he buys her a watch and uses that breakthrough to sell Gillete instead of having that conversation with her because that means having it with yourself first.

Infode

I'm not a Don/Joan shipper (I swear!) but that kiss...🥵🥵🥵

Taya

Lola: 'This is starting to look like "Challengers" Me: *Cynthia Erivo tapping her head meme* Also me: *searches for fanfic*

bondbond53

Also, Roger didnt even bring the Lucky Strike account, that was his father.

Juanma88

Betty was the model wearing the fur on the poster btw, you didnt notice. So they met around that time.

Juanma88

Don in s1e13: "Nostalgia-- it's delicate, but potent. Teddy told me that in Greek nostalgia literally means 'the pain from an old wound.' It’s a twinge in your heart far more powerful than memory alone." Don in s4e06: "I kept thinking about, you know, nostalgia. How you remember something in the past and it feels good but it's a little bit painful. Like when you were a kid." Oh, Don. What the hell happened to you? lmao

Taya

Not sure if you guys noticed but when Don is pitching the Life ad he tries to do the same pitch that he did for Kodak with the carousel in season 1.

PartyKitteh

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Taya

Love the twist at the end of this one. Roger doesn't know if he actually even hired Don.😭

Eric Viola


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