The Sopranos 6x16 Reaction
Added 2025-05-23 21:05:54 +0000 UTC
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He’s always gambled. He has less income coming in due to veto being killed.
John
2025-05-27 09:20:02 +0000 UTCAnother great reaction from my two perfect women!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
robert klein
2025-05-27 09:01:53 +0000 UTCThis is so true. You can literally not experience or identify a single symptom until you are sitting in your doctor's office and getting it checked. Pretty much every grocery store with a pharmacy has a machine where you can check it. This has been a public service announcement. 🤓
Marcus Cato
2025-05-25 17:29:19 +0000 UTCI feel like the fact that Carmela was fucking over her cousin makes her even more gross.
Truemeathead
2025-05-24 19:03:20 +0000 UTCInteresting that the last 4 episodes each focussed on some sort of conflict between Tony and somebody close to him. Bobby, Chris, Paulie then Hesh...
windyMelon
2025-05-24 17:19:59 +0000 UTCThere’s every indication that Hesh’s girlfriend had undiagnosed high blood pressure. She complained about headaches in this episode. Hesh probably caused her more worry by talking about Tony coming to kill him, and then Tony shows up suspiciously. She was probably internalizing and agonizing over Hesh’s impending murder she couldn’t do anything about. They call HBP the silent killer for a reason. And she’s in the age demographic where it can happen, mid 40s perhaps 50s. It took her quietly in her sleep.
Richard Cowgill
2025-05-24 15:57:02 +0000 UTCGoodfellas would be a better choice to cap it off.
Abacus
2025-05-24 10:42:33 +0000 UTCIt was the telethon that reunited Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, to be fair
Darrach
2025-05-24 08:31:29 +0000 UTCThe gambling is definitely sudden but I really like it cuz it shows Tony removing even more of his moral or personal restraints he previously put on himself.
Cole
2025-05-24 07:56:30 +0000 UTCLike a pebble in a lake, even the fish feel it
Octavio
2025-05-24 06:52:23 +0000 UTCCarmela's spec house serves as a neat metaphor for the life they've built together: built by criminality and always at risk of caving in and bringing everything to a sudden end. The entire project is the fruit of Carm selling herself back to Tony, as him funding the house was the price for them getting back together. The concern over the structural integrity is because mob pressure on the inspector allowed them to avoid meeting the required standards, therefore the fear of it all collapsing is because of mob involvement. Her fears about the house holding up in the rain reflect her general fears about her/their life suddenly coming to an end after years of weathering the storm of police, feds, and rival gangs. She repeatedly worries about this: in her dream where she tells Ade she's worried all the time while they stand in the skeleton of the spec house, up to this episode when she talks about security and not ending up like Ginny Sack, who recently lost her house. It's also notable that it is bought by her cousin Brian and his pregnant wife, so it's literally occupied by Carmela's family. Brian barely features in the episode—it could easily have been written as Mr & Mrs John Doe as the buyers—but it being Carmela's own family adds an extra layer to her fears of "her family" being at risk. When Tony berates her during the argument, telling her that the house will cave in and kill the unborn baby, he could be talking about their own family: she chose to build a family on a foundation of moral corruption, and will always have the according risk hanging over their head. Similar to how cancer is used throughout the show as a metaphorical manifestation of the mob life (as Lola repeatedly points out), the house itself is a representation of their life together: a beautiful home on the surface hiding the corruption beneath, and which puts the family at risk. A theme repeated throughout this season is whether you can do enough to redeem yourself and pull back from the brink. After Tony's shooting he pledges to treat every day as precious... but does he turn his life around and save his soul? When Johnny Sack received his terminal prognosis, he tells the marshall that he had quit smoking after decades, was eating healthy, exercising... but it wasn't enough to save him. "Still, it was the right move" the marshall tells him. With the house, they replaced the poor lumber with the good wood... but only about half of it. Will it be enough to save the house from destruction? And they could have just consulted Phil Leotardo about proper house construction, he knows it all, inside and out.
Abacus
2025-05-24 05:07:34 +0000 UTCCarmine Jr. mentioned a few episodes ago to Tony that he gave up boss to be happy. I think that's key to understanding Tony in this back half of the season. Don't think it'll be too surprising to find out this is the least well received episode in the final stretch of the show. Most of the viewers found the gambling thing to be a bit too drastic on a first watch. However, if you consider the Carmine Jr quote mentioned above, I think it makes more sense. Tony has realized he'll never be able to quit being boss and find the type of happiness and peace that Carmine Jr mentioned. He's completely resigned to his life in it's current state to the point that he considers the therapy an "oasis". It goes beyond him refusing to change for moral reasons. He doesn't even seem motivated enough to pursue personal fulfillment that isn't short-term dopamine hits. It's like he's taken his idea of "every day is a gift" to the most negative extreme. The father thing still seems to be an underlying factor continuing from last episode: Paulie was a vestige of Tony's father and after some abuse, Tony chose not to kill him. Hesh is another vestige and he had a different way and opportunity to lash out at him. The reading of Tony giving money thing seems a bit off. If he ONLY cared about his image he could have easily leaned into the Vito homosexual angle and refused it on that front. None of the sycophants below him would really question that. His want to help was genuine (remember his feelings towards kids and there was SOME tenderness in his conversation with Vito Jr until he gave up), it just got overpowered by his selfishness and his self-destructiveness is at an all time high as mentioned above.
Veya
2025-05-24 01:40:54 +0000 UTCi felt the exact same watching season 6, in retrospect if i'd gone a bit slower i'd definitely have had a better time because it's so consistently bleak that too much of it at once is draining
castration_rite
2025-05-24 00:47:51 +0000 UTCBlanca I think makes one of the smartest decisions in the entire series in this episode. When AJ offers to take care of her, clearly planning to live off his family money and use that to make those big dreams he talks about happen, she ultimately says no. She's not going to chain herself to a brick for the rest of her life just because it's coated in gold. I can't picture any other character in this series turning down that opportunity, but she did because she honestly didn't want to marry AJ. I agree that AJ is a better version of himself here than we've ever seen him before, but it's not her job to make him a better version of himself. Yes, Carmela is saying that her profit from the house after everything is said-and-done is $600,000.00. I honestly think that Hesh was the closest of all of Tony's associates to being an actual friend. Still not quite there, but closer than everybody else. And now even that relationship is gone.
JBK405
2025-05-24 00:43:52 +0000 UTCGreat reaction! binge-watching S6 was an emotional slog honestly. i felt like Melfi checking in with my horrible patient Tony to see what awful stuff he's up to this week 😓 to be fair, anything else at this point would be unrealistic. I never considered that the gambling was sudden but you're kinda right. Tony always liked a flutter, but his "addiction" (im not a clinician sry if wrong word) definitely escalates here. it's pretty pathetic to be a mob boss that can't even pay his gambling debts lol, that's why Tony is worried about just ignoring Hesh. A BIG takeaway from this ep and the earlier ones this season is how not-rich Tony is in the grand scheme.... all the horrible harm and violence and nasty schemes these people gave to the world and the richest of them are like barely single digit millionaires. Like the ep where Chris and Carmine go to LA is like... look how rich these people are from legal work and we're murdering people, stealing iphones and selling our souls for what, 100k, maybe a few million as the jersey boss? deeply sad. To quote Mr Robot: "you could've just enrolled in some night classes at the brooklyn school of real estate and [left] me the fuck out of it. "
Kara
2025-05-24 00:28:03 +0000 UTCBest run of episodes in the whole series.
Mike
2025-05-24 00:19:33 +0000 UTCLmao clever
Julien
2025-05-23 23:57:50 +0000 UTCEverything just feels a little bit off in this episode. Like they had to exaggerate everything in case people still weren't getting it.
Marcus Cato
2025-05-23 23:48:18 +0000 UTCI agree with the consensus that this episode felt out nowhere but again.. they sort of always hinted about his gambling addiction here and there. I just find it weird we are now focusing on this at the last couple of episodes of the last season. To me this is my least favorite episode of season 6. I feel they could’ve done something a little bit more interesting here.
Jack SV
2025-05-23 23:01:15 +0000 UTCI think in this episode we're seeing Melfi's prediction coming true. Tony hasn't dealt at all with the trauma of being shot by Junior, which also reminds him of the trauma of the previous assassination attempt, and now he's lashing out (decompensating, as she put it). He also seems to have increasing anger towards anyone that reminds him of his father, probably because deep down he knows his father is the biggest reason he's in the mob. There's a very good essay written by a fan that analyzes this, Tony's Vicarious Patricide, but it contains spoilers for the rest of the season.
Simon M. y Atana Sumi
2025-05-23 23:00:43 +0000 UTCTwo kids acting out against their dead fathers in this episode!
Ken
2025-05-23 22:59:06 +0000 UTCHonestly, Tony was sometimes charming, though mostly unlikeable for the entire show, but they decided to really turn it up and make him just a disgusting piece of garbage in the second half of this season. I honestly cannot imagine this version of him successfully making it through the day, never mind running a multi million dollar criminal enterprise. Just constantly hateful and disrespectful towards everyone around him with no redeeming qualities at all. Like, get this dude off my screen, lol. He's so depressing to watch.
mbds
2025-05-23 22:45:41 +0000 UTCdamn grapevine 😂
Gaba Gool
2025-05-23 22:31:31 +0000 UTCIt’s easy to miss some of the references to Tony and Christopher’s relationship and its deterioration in this episode. -Tony talks about how difficult it is to substitute for a dad almost lamenting it ( he is a substitute dad for Christopher) -Christopher is talking about the progress of his movie and Tony is eerily staring at him. -Tony talks to hesh about his key guys and their first agendas and mentions how their murderers then proceeds to take out the cleaver hat, from the movie where Chris “subconsciously” kills him. It’s not much on first view, but it’s haunting when you come back to the show.
Edward. M
2025-05-23 22:14:20 +0000 UTCVito Jr ate cat shit?
BND
2025-05-23 22:14:19 +0000 UTCTony this entire half season is at his worst tbh. Even in sopranos home movies i felt he was pretty close to the vindictiveness he showed in cold cuts.
Veya
2025-05-23 22:07:29 +0000 UTCIs Hans Zimmer your neighbor?
Michael M
2025-05-23 21:55:13 +0000 UTCI said in ‘Cold Cuts’ last season that it was Tony at his most disgusting, but that was because we hadn’t reached ‘Chasing It’. We have seen Tony gamble increasingly throughout the seasons, and there is a notable uptick in Season 5 after he and Carm separate. The last two episodes we have seen Tony increasingly gamble and lose with large sums at stake. All that to say, this plot point does feel like a sudden focus. I enjoy the parallels of what Tony’s father told him in 3x3 ‘Fortunate Son’, where Johnny told Tony to never gamble, to now where he is throwing away hundreds of thousands of shitty bets.
Darrach
2025-05-23 21:46:42 +0000 UTCPhil chastises and demeans Johnny for crying when the Feds ruined his daughter’s wedding by making a show of Re-incarcerating him (for what ended up being the rest of his life) in front of everyone after a few hours of freedom. Phil then tells Nancy Sinatra he cried during a telethon, of all things. Phil is an enormous bastard.
John Collins
2025-05-23 21:43:01 +0000 UTCWhen you guys finish a good companion piece would be the David Chase doc from last year: Wise Guy David Chase and The Sopranos.
Kranky
2025-05-23 21:37:07 +0000 UTCNow it's off to the races with the last 5
Erik D
2025-05-23 21:24:28 +0000 UTCSeason 6 just has too many 10/10 episodes
Virgil Hawkins
2025-05-23 21:13:07 +0000 UTC
