The Sopranos 5x13 Reaction

do you two have pay pal i want to send all my money to you i worship you

robert klein

Great reaction as always you two goddesses! 😘💕❤️

robert klein

Sunday would be my guess

Darrach

so Quasimodo when is the next episode?

Rok Zupan

Milena already took the break though. These last 3 Sopranos videos were recorded in advance.

Gaboxxy

It already happened silly. She got back Tuesday

Isaac

Lol perfectly true!

Marcus Cato

Please Godfather 2 sometime in the near future! 🙏

UNC

Don't blame them for taking breaks, I did the same. It's a heavy show with much to digest. FYI Season 6 is 21 episodes and has a break between episode 12 and 13. It's kind of two seasons, kind of not. I feel like it's gonna be so good for reactions, but it's not one to power through.

Mark M

To be fair, "my consciousness would not let me sleep" is weirdly correct.

Abacus

I like that it bookends too, but I think it’s just less dynamic of a symbol compared to the other ones. And they are spelled out (revealed is probably a better description) but similar to chess in the wire, it’s supposed to be overt on a base level before you see more and more elements of it nested in the story and this show goes further, particularly with the ducks, because the symbol starts shifting more as the show goes on given how tony starts changing as a character as well as him having many different relationships with different members of his family, which means what the ducks represents can manifest differently. I think the tony b and dog connection is well observed. Also adriana and lorraine crawled on all fours during their death scenes as well, further reinforcing the animal idea among all of the victims.

Veya

Deleted scene: Paulie again retrieves the painting from the dumpster, wipes off the egg, and hangs it back on his wall.

Abacus

By this point in the show, I hated Paulie, but I did feel bad for him when Tony came over and threw out the painting. To be fair, I think Tony handled the situation with Tony B as well as he could. He was ready to give him up until Johnny insinuated that Phil would torture him, which was completely unnecessary. Tony also had a point; this whole cycle of bloodshed started with Johnny whacking Lorraine. Anyways, I'm excited that we're entering the final season now! Three of my personal favourite episodes are there and I can't wait for us to get into it.

IanJ

Personally, the bear symbolism is one of my favs, it bookends the season nicely. A much more subtle one is Tony B as the dog. Both Tony B and Tony's dog were close to him when he was young, before they each "had to go away". While Tony is told the story that his childhood dog "went off to live on a farm" as a euphemism for death, Tony B did literally run off to the farm to live (as in survive), where he was killed. In the two cases, the farm represents death: one metaphorically, one literally. Add to that that the farm is used as a burial place for their various mob-corpses, it ties together quite nicely with the farm as a kind of "terrestrial afterlife" of sorts. Of all the many shootings in the show, this is the only one (as far as I remember) where the gunman wears rubber gloves. Tony's surgical latex gloves are shown very clearly, and evoke an operation taking place (putting down the dog), and also unusually with a shotgun (rather than the universally used pistol) like a farmer would use. Also of course Phil refers to Tony B as an animal (though not a dog specifically). It's much less clear than the stuff that gets spelled out like the ducks and the bear and the horse, and arguably I'm just reading too much into it, but I think there's something intentional there.

Abacus

Good episode but pretty muted for a season finale. Especially compared to the other season finales. Tony saying "I made all the wrong choices" pretty much sums up what the entire season seemed to be doing with him. It dug the most into his past but gave us discomfiting answers as to whether some of the events would have meaningfully made him "better" even if he made the right choices. The conversation between Tony and Chris while very mercenary at the start (which as stated in the discussion makes sense for the type of people they are), there was clear emotion with the last embrace. With AJ, in addition to smiling, there's also a contrasting character trait that is very telling. Similar to back in season 3 when his friends initiated the vandalization of the pool. Honestly not as big of a fan of the bear symbolism compared to the previous animal ones like the ducks and the horse. I think the lingering shot of the house at the end of the episode as well as all of the desolate trees he walks by (a shift from trees with autumn leaves from the previous episode associated with Adriana) has a lot more possible readings and depth, though some would still be compounded with the bear.

Veya

@Veya when we talk about the american Cosa Nostra, it's a real thing. It's in everyone's best interests to leave the family out of the crossfire, besides the fact american institutions were stronger than in Italy so they couldn't just go around murdering civilians to begin with. Whacking someone in front of their family was also highly frowned upon, but it did happen on some rare occasions (Joey Gallo being the classic example). Different story when it comes to the Sicilian Mafia historically speaking though due to the whole "vendetta" aspect of sicilian culture, in which if a family member of yours is killed you are expected as a man to swear revenge regardless if you are part of the mafia to begin with or how removed said family member is; this could potentially result in family feuds that could even last generations. To avoid that, often times when a boss had to kill someone they would kill all the males of their family to avoid further retaliation (this is accurately portrayed in the Godfather II, while the difference in brutality between american and the italian mafia is also shown in the Sopranos). Sick shit. That is precisely the cycle of bloodshed italian immigrants wanted to avoid when first establishing the organized crime families in the U.S. Not only there was probably genuine generational trauma there, but it's simply bad for business.

Gaboxxy

@JG, I thought that cut scene with Dickie and Tony was good though (particularly for Tony and Johnny's interaction) and had the most personality of the original show. I don't like that they shoe-horned Carmela in, but all Tony said was her name, Dickie may not have pieced together that it was the same person. But yeah overall the film lacked a good structure and ironically enough, would have served better as pilot to a TV show given the amount of story-lines that were shoved in and needed more room to breathe. The constant familiar-phrases and too obvious winks to the original show was also ridiculously fan-servicey.

Veya

Zach D

Yeah, it's also tied to the fact that Johnny invited Tony to his house for a chat where Ginny is. Also, Phil threatening Chris's mother and the other dude had to stop him. Idk if there's an actual rule like this in real mobs but it seems to be one of the few carry-overs from traditional mob films that the show didn't deconstruct, at least entirely.

Veya

Now that's an image.

IanJ

It kinda breaks my heart that we are quickly approaching the end.

Marcus Cato

Apologies for being a bit pedantic, but the word conscience is different from the word consciousness. I only bring it up because I've noticed it a couple times recently. Regarding the discussion about Chris, it's better to say, 'my conscience would not let me sleep.' You guys are so impressive with your English skills that I hate to say anything, but having taught English in the past I can't help it. 😂

Marcus Cato

I always love when they work in Van Morrison. The music choices are always so spot on.

Marcus Cato

RIP to the much anticipated Johnny vs Tony war lol

Quasirng

Still waiting for Godfather Part 2 😬

BND

Btw, just in case it wasn't clear, when Johnny Sack threatened Tony's family he didn't mean his literal family (Carm, Meadow and AJ) but his criminal family. There was an unwritten rule in the american Mafia that family members of wiseguys were not to be touched by other made men or associates, they were civilians. This isn't like Breaking Bad. If Johnny had actually meant Tony's actual family, then not only it would cause an immediate war but Johnny would probably lose most of his support in order to not set a dangerous precedent. Maybe I misunderstood Milena, though.

Gaboxxy

look i get that it isn’t good, but i want to see their reaction to that. and who knows maybe they’ll enjoy some of it

Zach D

I get what you're saying, and yes, you are right. But I'm talking more about things that were established in the show, only for 80 year old David Chase to completely screw up with his lazy writing and research skills. You think he'd at least hire someone to fact check any inconsistencies for him, but what do I know? One scene that I can mention that was left on the cutting room floor was a scene where Dickie is asking Tony about his new girlfriend, Carmella. In the show, Dickie and Carmella are 1st cousins...🤦

JG

You know what.. I hope you girls take your time with the last season because once you are done with this show, you will definitely miss all these characters and their stories. I will say this again but whatever show is next, it has some big shoes to fill..

Jack SV

To be completely fair the sopranos itself is also a continuity nightmare even though you don't notice it the first time, because all the retcons worked only well for the show (in my opinion) yeah many saints of newark is just horrible. I'm trying to forget it. But it's hard to forget. I don't forget. I forget what we're tawkin about

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I always loved the scene at the end when the FBI storms Johnny's house. These guys think they're so important and powerful, viewing themselves as generals and leaders, and yet when the time comes they have no recourse but to run at the drop of a hat. I'm assuming you two have already started season six given the way you recorded this episode a while ago, but in case you didn't: It wasn't the entire Lupertazzi family arrested all at once, it was Jimmy Petrille's crew. Petrille is a capo, so it would be like if Paulie was an informer and turned in all of the guys who worked for him. He'd have enough evidence to get Tony arrested as well, but he wouldn't single-handedly get the entire family arrested all at once. They also talked about just how LONG Petrille was informing for the FBI. This is why Tony is still walking around free despite all the horrible things he's done: it takes time to build up a case. Ray Curto has been informing on Tony for years at this point and they're still not ready to move forward with an indictment because they need to build a comprehensive case.

JBK405

Not only does it suck, but it's a continuity nightmare. So many examples to list but I won't due to spoilers.

JG

"And they'll lay you down, low and easy!"

JG

@Zach D I saw that movie, I thought it was bullshit. (Nah but really, it sucks, I hope they don’t watch it).

Gaboxxy

Incredible cameo by Sal Vitro in this one. Dude had a *rough* season.

Mike

When Tony said we are a family.. why did Lola look at us straight up the camera to us like we said it lol@11:57

Jack SV

The song we hear throughout the episode is Glad Tidings by Van Morrison, and it’s one of my favourite needle drops in the show. A fantastic song but the lyrics tie perfectly into this episodes plot with New York and Tony B: ‘And we'll send you glad tidings from New York Open up your eyes so you may see Ask you not to read between the lines Hope that you will come right in on time And they'll lay you down, low and easy‘.

Darrach

I saw a clip of an interview where the actress who plays Adriana said she has her son edit her OnlyFans pictures. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viF3hBDijlA

Jack Hoff

Many Saint of Newark!

Zach D

I don't think they will, they've never reacted to a documentary ((as far as I know but correct me if I'm wrong) and I doubt The Sopranos will be the exception, but regardless I don't think it would make for a great reaction. That said, I do hope they watch it on their own time. It gives great insight into some core aspects of the show and the people involved in it.

Gaboxxy

Oh, finally. I was startin' to grow mushrooms outta my ass.

Gaboxxy

Will you react to the Wise Guy documentary when you finish the show? It's not a documentary that adds a lot of new information for an old fan, but when I watched it I thought it's perfect for someone who just finished the show and wants to learn some background things about this thing of ours. And it has some interesting thoughts that cast and crew members share, especially David Chase. Plus it has Chase's eulogy for Gandolfini which is probably the most heartbreaking Sopranos-related thing I've ever seen.

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