I can't believe Burt & his husband Fields saw Irving and wanted to bring him in for a throuple. They're the true throuple of the season.
tbh tho I don't trust Burt at all, but hopefully he's legit and this goes well. I highly suspect Burt's still with Lumon in some capacity, Lumon could have contacted him again after his firing & asked him to do this for some cash.
Yarrow
2025-02-20 07:15:14 +0000 UTC
It's not "DAD", it's "O&D". (His handwriting is just messy.)
ks93
2025-02-20 05:30:19 +0000 UTC
why did the note from Irving say "from dad"?? does he have a son in there, or is that a reference to "hi kids, what's for dinner?"
Harfie
2025-02-20 03:13:19 +0000 UTC
I think the others have more similarities than differences since they're raised more freely. I think Helena could be like Helly and wants to be like Helly but her father's approval and cultist mission is so important to her, it's created this awful person we see her be.
Anto
2025-02-20 02:08:18 +0000 UTC
The dental tools are likely to fake dental records, which is a key tool to identify burned bodies. So if u wanted to abduct someone without a trace (like Gemma), you would want to replace her with a burned body that had her dental records and was wearing her wedding ring and other personal items. Im guessing that is where the shows is going.
Gemma survived the accident alive but unconscious. Lumon installed the chip in her unconscious brain. Burned her car and provided a burned body with matching dental records. Marc, distraught, identified a burned body with a similar body type that was wearing Gemma’s wedding ring.
I don’t think she was particularly special. As in, Lumon did not specifically plan to abduct and sever her. She was probably in the right place and right them for her abductors…. And her abduction makes Marc special, for some unknown reason.
Mahad Ali
2025-02-19 21:02:08 +0000 UTC
It’s always so funny watching you two. Milena is so locked into character and how the moments I. Episodes affect them. While Lola is 100% locked in on the mystery. This episode ends on marks very upset face. Milena responds “oh look at him” and Lola says “your outie is going to what?” Nothing wrong with either. I’m more in the Milena camp. The mystery is part of the show for sure but I care about the characters and whatever mystery they want to solve for me is cool. But I don’t need to know every answer. Love that they are so different yet the same in those ways.
alex otis
2025-02-19 18:26:11 +0000 UTC
Helena is a unique case because she’s the only one that was raised in a cult. She’s experienced such intense indoctrination for such a long time that i think the core of who she is has been buried under all that. I think Helly is proof that at the core of Helena is a strong-willed rebellious person that *would* exist if she wasn’t raised the way she was raised. Especially if you view what Helena said to Mark in the tent as honest, which i personally do, “i didn’t like who i was on the outside, i was ashamed”. It just shows that she tragically was never allowed to express who is, and thus developed into an emotionally stunted and cruel individual. I wonder if reintegration could help her become who she wants to be, or if she’s so far gone that the helly side of her would get buried too.
jweher
2025-02-19 17:57:20 +0000 UTC
Yea i also think it varies by person. Helly and Helena are two different people sharing one body. With the others it really is more muddy
John West
2025-02-19 17:42:21 +0000 UTC
oh milkshake is pissed because he didn’t substitute the word “f*ck” with a “big” word. he wouldn’t normally be so vulgar about these things
Celiz Embuscado
2025-02-19 16:14:07 +0000 UTC
Yeah, this is his grief pattern. He detaches, destroys, and then fights with all his heart to make it right.
iMark tearing up Petey's map and then making a new one after Helly's suicide attempt.
iMark detaching from Helly here.
oMark tearing up and then taping Gemma's photo
oMark severing to dull his grief only to attempt the insane by reintegrating for Gemma.
It's a big theme with him and I love watching his process each time.
Isaac
2025-02-19 16:05:38 +0000 UTC
Ahh yes. The Tyrell montage! :D
Isaac
2025-02-19 16:00:52 +0000 UTC
There really is nothing like it. I love movies. But movies can’t capture this 10 week trip you go on. Filling each day with podcasts and YouTube videos to think more and more about every little moment. Then you add in the fact this show is beautiful to look at the acting directing cinematography are all top top notch. It’s just so fun. Couldnt disagree more with milena about having to wait for the last two episodes. This show is not a binge show. To me. And to each their own. Love this show so much.
alex otis
2025-02-19 15:55:14 +0000 UTC
‘The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald’ is a 70s folk-rock song by Gordon Lightfoot, who’s biggest song is ‘If You Could Read My Mind’ which was used in Mr Robot and Lola said she liked it.
The song is about the SS Edmund Fitzgerald, a freighter that sank in Lake Superior in 1975, and none of the crew were ever found or recovered. The cause of the sinking remains unknown.
The lyrics of the song begin as:
“The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy“
Then there is that painting of Keir standing on a cliff overlooking bodies of water, those bodies of water ARE the Great Lakes, just scaled way down. The painting is called “Keir Invites You to Drink of His Water’.
It could be Lumon and the town our characters live is near this area based on the climate we have seen, and the Lumon logo is a water droplet. With the most important project Lumon has being named ‘Cold Harbour’, this all points to more than just coincidence.
Darrach
2025-02-19 13:35:07 +0000 UTC
I think that the more life experience the Innies get the more they start acting like their Outties. Mark’s thing is to run away from grief. He copes the same way with Gemma’s death as he does with Petey’s death, and now Irving’s death as well. He refuses to acknowledge it, and returns to work. So are you really a different person as an Innie? Is him repeating “they’re not dead, they’re just not here” because he’s reintegrating or because his coping mechanism is the same? Some people think the outties and innies are separate distinct people, but i think it’s more muddy than that. It’s probably a combination of reintegration, and Innie Mark gaining more life experience and acting like his Outtie as a result.
jweher
2025-02-19 10:28:55 +0000 UTC
Severance is taking over my mind. I paused watching the sopranos (at 5x06) and didn’t even watch your last two sopranos reactions because i’m busy thinking about severance. I love great weekly tv.
jweher
2025-02-19 09:08:55 +0000 UTC
This show needs 13 episode seasons. Only having 5 more and then years to wait is so cruel.
Cole
2025-02-19 06:40:25 +0000 UTC
Something I'm thinking about: It makes sense that Mark is the key to finishing Cold Harbor. We don't know what he's doing, or why Lumon has him doing it, but it makes sense on a gut level that they would need someone who knows Gemma to do the work (whatever it is).
But! Mark joined Lumon *after* Gemma died. Months after. Something weird is going on there. Why did Lumon steal her body before Mark even decided to work for the company? If they orchestrated her "death" to lure Mark to Lumon, why him specifically?
Mike
2025-02-19 05:43:30 +0000 UTC
I love the funny detail in the performance review that the complaints for Milchick are submitted anonymously by his co-workers. However, his only co-worker is Miss Huang so all of the complaints are made by her lol.
IanJ
2025-02-19 05:17:01 +0000 UTC
I think Irving may have undergone the reintegration procedure:
* Reghabi keeps saying things like “I am better at it now” and “usually, thats how it works” which implies she has done the procedure multiple times. How would she know that she is ‘better at it now’ unless she has done it on someone other than Petey?
* We have seen several signs of memories leaking between Irvings innie & outie (the paint dripping from the ceiling when he was at his desk, his outie painting the export hall hallway) …. perhaps his innie recognising Helena may even have something to do with a memory from his outie.
* I think it is Reghabi that Irving is talking to in the phonebooth.
* Remember Irving had a list of the names of severed employees and a map of some of their locations - I think he is working with Reghabi to try to expose Lumon.
David
2025-02-19 05:16:24 +0000 UTC
Very good point you bring up that I hadn't considered myself, by encouraging Helena to become her innie, her father is in a very literal sense taking her agency away from her, betraying how little he cares.
This episode seems to focus a lot on the connections between the characters, with themes of love and grief mixed in. Everyone (especially Dylan) grieving for Irving, Helly and Mark's weird situation, Milchick trying to connect with Natalie, Irving connecting with Burt, Helena possibly being conflicted about Mark, Devon having a problem with Ricken's new book version and even ms Huang's adversarial relationship with Milchick. All of these scenes felt needed especially after last episode's rollercoaster, and as you said feels like a calm before the storm.
At this point it feels like it can't have been a coincidence for Mark to decide to work at Lumon, we could get a flashback episode(s?) that fills in the gaps of what happened and how Lumon got him to work for them and make it feel like it was his idea, this would also be an opportunity to give us more on what happened with Gemma and why Petey decided to reintegrate.
Nina
2025-02-19 03:34:57 +0000 UTC
lmao arms indeed.
good eye, Milena
Isaac
2025-02-19 03:33:21 +0000 UTC
Even though he lies as easily as he breathes, I believe Milchick has ALWAYS been honest in the ways he cares about the innies. Even from Season 1, he always seemed to prioritize making them comfortable where he didn't need to. It's very interesting to have such a jailer
Isaac
2025-02-19 03:32:38 +0000 UTC
Great analysis at the end!
Tyler Horn
2025-02-19 03:23:54 +0000 UTC
You might've called Adam Scott "Ben" because of his Parks and Rec character Ben Wyatt but it sounds like you haven't seen that so it's probably just a coincidence lol.
Nina
2025-02-19 03:12:45 +0000 UTC
I knew a Fringe enjoyer would get it. You don't disappoint
Isaac
2025-02-19 02:35:08 +0000 UTC
you look like you're having a great time
sand_fl
2025-02-19 02:13:02 +0000 UTC
it was meant to be
LM Reactions
2025-02-19 02:10:05 +0000 UTC
There is no way. I decided to check your page on a whim and you immediately upload as it loads in haha. Impeccable timing, praise kier!