Black Sails 4x06 Reaction
Added 2024-04-18 23:04:19 +0000 UTC
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Two reactors who have good Outlander reactions with no signficant copyright issues are: --EvieReacts --Imon_Snow Some parents/grandparents like the series.
Clay F
2024-10-24 02:29:50 +0000 UTCI have to say that I was disappointed with Mads' death in this episode, I wasn't expecting it at all
Wallas
2024-05-30 22:27:29 +0000 UTCin my opinion starz has a lot of good shows sadly some of the really good ones arent really family friendly enough for youtube without editing 30-60% of the scenes out depending on the show and episode a great example of an amazing show that suffers this is Outlander its both written and acted extremely well but its most certainly not the kind of show you could comfortably watch with parents/grandparents and i cant imagine it would be fun trying to edit the episodes to be safe for youtube or to avoid the copyright claims that has plagued that specific series for years i would recommend giving it a chance though if your are ever looking for a good show to watch in your free time just be warned it might consume you as much as black sails and its not yet finished i believe there are couple seasons left for them to adapt from the books
Burnt Lithium
2024-05-12 05:34:00 +0000 UTCI think it was very in character for him to do what he did, but that doesn’t lessen it either.
cosmotron
2024-04-20 21:47:20 +0000 UTCYeah, Jack's plan was stupid and this whole legacy thing was kind of annoying.
Gustavo
2024-04-20 21:34:33 +0000 UTCHis refusal was expected for sure. But there’s a big difference between ‘Spain might be mad about us stealing their gold and someday try to retaliate, so in the meantime we will use some of the gold to fix up our defenses if that happens’ vs ‘if we don’t give back the gold Spain will literally raze this place to the ground before we have enough time to completely fix our broken fort.’ There’s a big gap between the possibility of something vs the absolute certainty of it. Especially because Jack was actively making the choice to have it happen. Again, big difference between ‘we will try to defend ourselves if this happens’ vs ‘I’m making sure this will happen because I want Nassau to burn for the sake of my legacy’. One is sharing a potentially bad situation, and the other is actively bringing that bad situation down upon people you supposedly care about. That’s the difference for me, what makes it a betrayal.
cosmotron
2024-04-20 20:57:53 +0000 UTCWhy do you consider Jack not handing over his portion as a betrayal? I mean, it's his portion, he can do with it whatever he wants. Although I don't agree with his "romantic" view of the outcome of his plan, I think his refusal was kind of expected. About the Spanish invasion, they all accepted that risk as soon as they chose to steal the gold. They all knew that there might be a chance Spain could retaliate, didn't they? So, can they really complain?
Gustavo
2024-04-20 19:51:06 +0000 UTCHey everyone, I want to thank everyone so much for the support y'all have shown me for my Black Sails reactions up until this point. Patreon won't show me who likes each video, but it's presumably the same people day in day out, so I want to say thank you so much for all the encouragement. I've made the difficult decision to postpone editing reactions/shooting reviews for the final 5 episodes indefinitely. This was absolutely not a hasty decision. At my busiest I was producing 5 episodes a week for YouTube, which on top of full time work and my own person life, was just far too much. With my channel doing significant numbers with films, I've decided to leave everything else television related to make that the sole priority. I would adore being able to show you my reactions to the final five episode at some point, even if just as full reactions, but for now I have to spend the time I have wisely. Again, I am just so incredibly grateful to each and every person who took the time out of their day to watch my reactions the past few months. Your continuous support was what allowed me to make my videos public to begin with, so again, thank you thank you thank you!
TeaDrinker3000
2024-04-19 23:29:10 +0000 UTCYeah i was talking more on the metaphorical meaning of that phrase. I thought it's a bit too much.
AlexBoss
2024-04-19 20:56:43 +0000 UTCAgree about the Eleanor stuff, though I disagree with your view on Max. It was quite literally her chair haha, even after Rogers became Governor.
cosmotron
2024-04-19 20:07:38 +0000 UTCI am from LATVIA! Big fan!
Kārlis Jandāls
2024-04-19 13:49:09 +0000 UTCreally appreciate how many moments of self reflection eleanor had these past few eps, particularly with her final conversations with max, madi and flint. it really completed her character arc to have her reconcile with regrets and find new resolve outside of nassau, as it would never give her the agency and fulfillment she desired. even though it ended tragically, it doesnt detract from any of that
Sebastian
2024-04-19 13:35:02 +0000 UTCI'm glad you girls loved Eleanor. I never understood the hate towards her (but that's ok), but i always detested the way everyone who hated her tried to justify it by somehow claiming that she was a bad person or worse than all the others. That is laughable. Objectively she hasn't done half of the evil shit that all the others have done, but she was responsible for killing a murderer and plunderer (who i really liked by the way) so she must be bad. Flint this season felt more of a presence than an actual character (up to this point), which i'm not mad about, because it fits the world and his story. You mostly saw his effect on the world and the people around him. Max on the other hand, i believe she's one of the characters that were a bit over- exposed. Her story had elements of being great, but i believe they over did it (imho) just on the things she was able to do and how she saw herself this season. ("The Governor is sitting in my f'in chair" ??? Come on now....)
AlexBoss
2024-04-19 09:05:44 +0000 UTCI've been watching for 2-3 years, I'm from New Zealand!
Levi
2024-04-19 04:05:24 +0000 UTCI knew Billy was gonna reject him, but I failed to predict what he would say to John's proposal. "You chose, live with it" Simple. Effective. Perfect.
HenryM
2024-04-19 03:10:06 +0000 UTC"You chose. Live with it." John really mistook Billy for one of the pirates that follows him blindly. "One can be happy that way, can't they? A life of isolation and uncertainty as long as it is lived with someone you love... And who loves you back. It is possible, isn't it?" It is interesting to see Madi reluctantly saying yes to Eleanor. She had the same reaction when John asked her if he would be enough for her.
Gustavo
2024-04-19 02:40:21 +0000 UTCEven though it would have been poetic for Eleanor's death to have been a direct result of her killing Vane, I'm glad the writers didn't do that. There was some uncomfortable "hang the witch" vibes towards Eleanor from certain Black Sails fans back when season 4 was about to air, and I'm glad the showrunners had the courage & empathy for Eleanor's character to deny those fans their cathartic, revenge-fueled bloodlust. Eleanor may have been a very flawed character, and it's understandable that fans would hate her for killing Vane, but you can't paint her as the villain in a world where she's surrounded by pirates who have comitted murder for much less justified reasons than "that person killed my father".
Scott
2024-04-19 02:14:26 +0000 UTCIf you see Eleanor in a jail cell, you know it's gonna be a great scene
HenryM
2024-04-19 02:02:52 +0000 UTCI was glad Flint decided not to tell Eleanor about Rodgers, at least he granted her that small peace. Her heart to heart with Madi was one of my favorite scenes, and it felt like closure for her character. "How can we have sacrificed so much and have nothing to show for it?" that line just made Eleanor's death even sadder. In regards to Flint, I felt like him standing outside of Miranda's burning house was really symbolic, even more so after hearing him say" I'll leave nobody behind", something I never expected Flint to say. Also, the way he looked at John after telling him about Madi was something else... I feel like we got a glimpse of James there
HenryM
2024-04-19 02:00:28 +0000 UTCWe do see that from her, although I didn’t appreciate that the same scene were we learn she knows Eleanor died also had her going after Jack in that moment. My feelings are mixed about her in that moment (I love the character as a whole) because she’s one of the biggest, if not the biggest reason why this war dragged out instead of ending quickly with a decisive battle at the beginning of the season, and she’s putting the blame of the conflict on Jack/men like him when she’s just as culpable. I personally would have rather we have a scene dedicated to her learning that Eleanor died and then separately we have this scene with her and Jack where she essentially announces that she’s switching sides even if she dislikes the players. Just my opinion though
My Toasty Toast
2024-04-19 01:58:02 +0000 UTCMilena: If I were a writer and I made this, that's it for me. There's no more to say afterwards. They can't be better, so might as well not make something worse. Immediately made me think of Dark (masterpiece), and the writers next show 1899. I don't know what they had in store for the next seasons, but the first didn't get me at all.
Gustavo
2024-04-19 01:46:39 +0000 UTCI would have loved to see that too, though I do think we still get a lot of that from her speech to Jack, reiterating "Eleanor is dead, Anne is nearly dead, and I want him to pay for it dearly".
cosmotron
2024-04-19 01:27:11 +0000 UTCMaybe this is cruel, but I would have loved to see Max being told of Eleanor’s death. Not because I’m a glutton for punishment, but it just seems odd that Max learned of it off-screen. Eleanor was someone that was so important to her at one point, I would have loved to have seen how the actress would have conveyed those emotions. I wonder if Max knew that Eleanor was going to die when she chose to get on the boat to Rackham instead of looking for her.
My Toasty Toast
2024-04-19 01:14:40 +0000 UTCI think disliking her is totally fine and fair, but there are definitely people who get obnoxious about it and act as if the other characters are somehow morally superior. Or don't even try to understand her at all. So, yeah, I definitely get not liking her, and I'm glad you grew to understand her more on rewatch.
cosmotron
2024-04-19 01:07:11 +0000 UTCI will say on my first watch of black sails I was not fond of Eleanor’s character. A lot of it had to do with her relationship with Rogers. This was a few years ago. I’ve rewatched it twice since then and I do like her character more than I did or at least I understand her better. You guys actually helped me understand her better this go around. Even though I didn’t really like her on my first watch her scene with flint in the jail cell and her death still brought tears to my eyes :( she really is a flawed and tragic character.
Kaycee
2024-04-19 01:04:46 +0000 UTCSo, I don't think this takes away from Jack and Anne's anger and hurt toward Max. But I do think it's important to remember...Jack betrayed Max first. Back in S3, when he didn't agree to hand over his and Anne's portion of the Urca treasure. He did that with the intention of bringing upon Nassau the *exact horror and violence* that we see in this episode. All for the sake of his own legacy. He made that choice despite people he cared about living there - like Max and Featherstone - and despite the fact that *Anne* was also still on the island and would very likely have been caught up in the violence of a Spanish raid as well. I don't think he was thinking about it in those terms, but he deliberately talked about how he knew this would "reduce Nassau to ashes". I'd definitely classify that as a betrayal toward Max. It's not as if Max told Rogers where to find Jack, or anything like that. Jack got himself caught, and Max only heard about it after the fact. She was told that Jack was willingly giving up his portion of the cache for the sake of preventing an attack from Spain, and went to thank him. She even tried to assure him that it was the right choice, not just in terms of preventing violence, but for the sake of his legacy. It was only then that he revealed the truth to her, and she realized what he had done. And *only* after that did she betray him and Anne. Like I said, it doesn't mean she didn't betray them. But Jack betrayed her beforehand as well.
cosmotron
2024-04-19 00:54:09 +0000 UTCOnce when talking about the way Flint develops throughout the show, I described it as feeling different from a typical character arc. That it's more like a slow unraveling of his character. And I think your conversation about him touches on that. He feels very kind and vulnerable here, not like the James of the past but also not like the Flint of the past either. Something beneath that, that's an intermingling of the two. More of a balance. It's really fascinating stuff.
cosmotron
2024-04-19 00:41:22 +0000 UTCfunnily would still be LM Reactions
ODIS
2024-04-19 00:38:22 +0000 UTCRewatching the second episode of the series, when Max begs for Eleanor to leave with her, just makes me cry so much after having seen this. To know that she will wish she had been a person who could say yes...to know that she will try and do that when it's too late and that she'll die because of this person she loves... Yeah, it's all pain.
cosmotron
2024-04-19 00:21:42 +0000 UTCI've mentioned it before, but I highly highly recommend listening to the Fathom's Deep podcast interview with Eleanor's actress, Hannah New. They recorded it after the next episode came out, so only listen to it if you've seen up through that point, but it's excellent. They dive really deeply into Eleanor's character in such a wonderful way, and you can tell how much Hannah New really gets her. And she shares some funny behind the scenes stories too!
cosmotron
2024-04-19 00:17:25 +0000 UTCRe: Eleanor getting hate. I completely agree. Especially when the show was still coming out, there were some folks who got really weird about hating her, and acted like she was literally the worst person on the show. And I think her death is significant because while it is a result of her decisions in many ways, it's not something that feels like a "punishment". If she had died because of someone getting revenge, it would have felt justified by the narrative, or at least a portion of the audience would have taken it that way. But this doesn't feel like a punishment, and I really appreciate that.
cosmotron
2024-04-18 23:25:34 +0000 UTCI bought the BluRays for the full series for the sole purpose of loaning it to my coworkers. It was the only way to get people on the Black Sails train a few years ago. It's so sad
Isaac
2024-04-18 23:24:48 +0000 UTCLola Memorial Reactions O.O
Isaac
2024-04-18 23:22:13 +0000 UTCso ready to see you cry your eyes out again. and the thumbnail promises to deliver. jokes aside, i rewatched the remaining episodes last week and i adored this episode. eleanor's ending is a tragic one (as we all expected when we were watching for the first time) but i'm glad flint was there and lied to her. at least she didn't die knowing it was her husband's doing. i also LOVE max and anne's scene. a little bit of hope in such a devastating episode. max will always be one of my favourite characters in this show and every time she opens her mouth i am reminded why i love her so much. and lastly, i do understand why people can dislike eleanor, but i also know how much hate some female characters recieve when if the tables turned and i was a man people wouldn't hate it so much. so whilr i know that eleanor fucked up so many times and many people died because of her, the same can be said about many other characters in this show and i still loved her character from beginning to end. also, hannah new (eleanor's actress) speaks impeccable spanish and she's been in a spanish show if i remember correctly. just a fun fact. ps: speaking of spanish, if you ever need help with you spanish lessons just hit me up, it's been a while since i worked as a teacher and it was of english, but as a native spanish speaker i may be able to help a little. specially since you're planning to move to spain and you seem to struggle more with our accent than the latin american ones.
sand_fl
2024-04-18 23:19:43 +0000 UTCAlso the episode is labeled wrong haha, 2x06 was a while back
cosmotron
2024-04-18 23:12:15 +0000 UTC"She will die. Either by an English noose or a Spanish sword. It is inevitable." - This was said in a conversation between Eleanor's dad and Mr. Scott back in s1. Eleanor avoided the noose, but she met the sword. :( Though you could argue that she met both in a way. The "noose" of England is what led to her meeting Rogers, being in that position is what led to her making the choices she did, and all of that of course eventually led here. To the Spanish sword. I'll have a lot more to say, but man. What a tragic character Eleanor is. I know a lot of people don't like her, and I get why I really do but...she honestly just makes me sad. And Flint's final words to her, a last kindness, always makes me cry. Oh, and fuck Woodes Rogers. Guy literally brought his wife's WORST FEAR down upon her, with literally no thought put into how badly that could go, or what that could do to her.
cosmotron
2024-04-18 23:10:40 +0000 UTCoh shit oh shit oh shit
Isaac
2024-04-18 23:09:31 +0000 UTC
