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Reacting to 'Pinata' by Freddie Gibbs and Madlib

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When we get Benny and Conway I am going to lose my mind!

Kevin Guertin

Hey Bob, I can't lie I've not read all the comments so I might just be repeating what others have already said, but I'd like to add my own take on Freddie. Freddie Gibbs is your first time experiencing a rapper that mostly just raps about his street life without a Kendrick or Nas-like wisdom element incorporated. This type of rap is all about showing how hard you are in creative ways. You won't hear rappers in this lane simply saying "I sell dope, fuck bitches and kill people", they'll find some sick way of saying it. In my opinion, Freddie, Pusha T and Benny and Conway out of Griselda are the best at this. Couple this with the Madlib production and the fact that Freddie is one of the most technically gifted rappers I've ever heard, and you get one of the best rap albums ever to me. Don't go searching for layers upon layers in coke rap, you won't find them. Hope this helps a bit, love your reactions!

Laurits Frederik Lehmann

For now, I'm saving both for reactions 👍

Bob_the_Poppop

This album is quickly rocketing up my list. I like what people are saying about it

Bob_the_Poppop

Daytona comes up A LOT it seems like, so that one is definitely on my radar

Bob_the_Poppop

Aesop has been mentioned fairly often, enough to be on my list

Bob_the_Poppop

I hope to get to Danny in April, XXX will be first

Bob_the_Poppop

yeah, that was barely a teaser at best. Gonna need more Mac

Bob_the_Poppop

lol

Bob_the_Poppop

I like what you're saying about Donuts. It intrigues me. There is an ambient album I listen to by Dead Melodies called Fabled Machines of Old. It's super chill, but you can almost make out a story in the of the sounds being used. Makes me wonder if I could pull anything from listening to Donuts.

Bob_the_Poppop

Yeah, that was cool.

Bob_the_Poppop

I look forward to hearing that DMX album. Bandana and Alfredo remain on my list too. I'm gonna check out that Pinata review today 🤘

Bob_the_Poppop

His flow is... almost stealthy, if that makes sense. His style is very different from someone like Biggie. And I'm notice that he's a bit monotone (not bad, just an observation), and I think that monotone sound makes it SOUND like what he's doing is more simple than it is. Where Biggie is shifting is tone more, adding to the structure and making the complexity more obvious.

Bob_the_Poppop

That is on my list, but it doesn't get mentioned too often

Bob_the_Poppop

Definitely growing on me. What's interesting is even after a few more listens, I'm still not jamming much to the first few tracks. But I haven't really figured out why... we'll see how the rest of the week plays out

Bob_the_Poppop

Added 👍

Bob_the_Poppop

Yes I do :)

Bob_the_Poppop

The beats on FREDDIE and Bandana are very different too

Jakob Roloff

I agree to an extent but I also think Freddie has progressed massively as an MC the past few years. Not that he was bad at all before. I think BDK has some of his greatest verses.

Jakob Roloff

It really comes down to which beats do you prefer but IMO Alfredo has the best version of Freddie in terms of flow and rhyme schemes

CRASH

I’ve never put much thought into Freddie’s lyrics. I just really admire his flow and how it adds to the instrumental. This is why I prefer his Alfredo album because it has my favorite beats and he is just SPITTIN. It’s fine if you wanna do Bandana offline but please do a reaction to Alfredo. It’s fuckin wild

CRASH

Regarding the DMX comments. His first 3 albums are regarded as rap classics. Its Dark and Hell is Hot is one of the most beloved rap albums ever and broke many barriers regarding story telling and dealing with personal emotions in an era where rap was full of "gangsters" and "thugs". DMXs story is so absurd if it was a movie people would say its too unrealistic and hes a deeply complicated person with his own pretty public battles with many demons. I hope you get to it someday Bob it would be a fun video.

Boyan Konov

It would be great to hear some Pusha-T at some point, he’s known for his coke/luxury street rap which is very much reminiscent of jay z’s reasonable doubt and has similarities to gibbs. Also his flow, beats and production are always crazy hard, he frequently collaborates with Kanye and Pharrell and is an absolute legend. Daytona, Darkest before dawn, MNIMN and being a part of the legendary rap duo the clipse he has quite the resume. Appreciate you bob 👍

stillseeghosts

I think he's said he'll be listening to it after XXX.

Samu Tolvanen

I've heard some tracks from Gibbs before but this was my first time hearing this album in full. It's pretty cool. I dig the sound and a few of the songs have really interesting stories/scenarios. When you want a lyrically dense listen with room for interpretation again go for Aesop Rock - The Impossible Kid.

Samu Tolvanen

This album is great but i still think Bandana and FREDDIE are the best Freddie Gibbs albums.

Jakob Roloff

Oh man, I haven’t listened to this whole album before, just some of the songs, and I really enjoyed going through the whole thing with you. I felt the same way you did about not really meaning with the lyrics as much as other projects from other artists. It’s like you can appreciate the art for what it is, but it feels less spectacular compared to what Kendrick and Kanye do. On a side note, less than a whole album, I think you’d really enjoy the Rico Story Trilogy by Speaker Knockers. He was a rapper that died really young (19) from a heart attack in 2014, and Rico Story is a series of songs that tell a VIVID story with interesting beats and vocals all produced on his own.

Troy Peters

My favorite tracks from this album are: High (probably my favorite on the album), Shitsville, Robes (track that got me into Freddie Gibbs, also looking forward to your inevitable Earl reactions, he's got some fantastic stuff), Lakers, Shame, and Pinata (was hoping you'd listen to that final minute and a half, I'm sure you will later, it's pretty funny lol) BJ the Chicago Kid isn't a sample, he's really on the track! I was expecting you to remember him since he featured on Kush & Corinthians off Section.80, a track I remember you liking, but there's a lot of names to remember so I get it. Overall, I think this album is fantastic and Bandana is even better so I'm really looking forward to that eventual video, and this album will definitely grow on you, I'm almost certain you'll end up loving it come the additional thoughts video

Lil Mac

you should really listen to Danny Brown’s atrocity exhibition. it’s a 10/10 album with crazy production and zany vocals while also touching on important topics like overdosing, drug dealing, and losing loved ones

Payson

I'm glad you finally got a glimpse of Mac even though he doesn't say much here. Being on a track w so many other rappers like that one it seems like he's just throwing some humour out there for comic relief (considering he's friends with all of those guys). When you get to his projects or maybe some verses on other features you'll get a better taste of what he's about

Henry

Gibbs is like a real life Chapelle Show character

Leverage

With Freddie's voice being silk cinderblock as it is coupled with his mic skills, it's easy to overlook his artistry. His videos are very entertaining, it's an inside joke amongst his fans that he (or his video persona) should be the GTA 6 main character. And as far a Donuts by Dilla, I love it, but it is definitely some mainline hiphop head shit. Sometimes I even feel like a poser when I'm listening to it. But it's consistently been in my most played music for the last 5 years. There is a real story to Donuts though, it was his final work, and he was in bad way while making a lot of it. I've heard 9th wonder (another god level producer) talk about how "there was a time in hip-hop when it's like Dilla and I were the only ones who really understand what the other is doing..there's messages in this music and I know he's talking to me.." something like that. Puts it in an interesting context if you look at it that way.

FuzzyDunlop

Its not a song on this album but I think you would really dig freddies color performance of fake names https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxZaovFzw5Q

Chapo

Don't be worried that you won't like something. There will be albums you don't like I'm sure. You can't like everything. But I'm glad you gave it fair listen and came around to it. :)

Dylan Woods

want to cosign some of the points about freddie's flow and rhyme structures others have made. it's absolutely insane that he is so in the pocket and spitting balletically on these weird and shifty madlib beats (even the more straightforward ones have some wonk to them) that reference gibbs's roots (midwest) and his home (L.A.) for reference, check out the "knicks (remix)" featuring 3 very good rappers who sound completely lost on this beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-yWk1RBTxM. it just goes to show how skilled freddie is at rapping over atypical and legitimately hard-to-rap-over beats like this. he finds spaces in the instrumental that the other rappers trample and stumble over

wxshxd

“ALLL the fries you can give me. Hmmm. Bread stuck to the bottom. He’s trying to tell me something, but I don’t know what. Interesting.” Bob spending so much time trying to understand “Harold’s” had me laughing my ass off. I love this guy. I think Freddie just likes that restaurant my dude. :) Dead End Hip Hop – Pinata Review https://youtu.be/OwU8WwYW7p4 This is a review of Pinata by Dead End Hip Hop. They’re more discussions than reviews. They’re a lot of fun to watch and it they bring a family vibe to the whole thing. “We’re not against rappers but we’re against those thugs.” Is a reference to the Rev. Calvin Butts who said these words during one of his speeches. The lines were then used as the intro for the song “Thuggish Ruggish Bone” by Bone Thugs N Harmony. That is the main reason why the lines are famous. Listen to E. 1999 Eternal at some point. Slate: https://slate.com/culture/2019/11/slow-burn-tupac-biggie-reverend-calvin-butts.html Freddie Gibbs was previously signed to Young Jeezy’s label “CTE” (Corporate Thugz Entertainment). Gibbs left the label over creative and personal differences (the specifics are not known) which is why he disses him on the album. You have heard Young Jeezy before – he’s featured on the song “Amazing” from 808s and Heartbreak by Kanye West (“Standing at my podium, I’m trying to watch my sodium”). Young Jeezy is one of the pioneers of the trap music genre. His most important project is Thug Motivation 101: Let’s Get It. DMX is a great artist with a lot of energy. It’s Dark and Hell is Hot is a classic for sure. The two artists who have influenced Freddie Gibbs the most are 2pac, who you’ve already listened to, and Scarface, who was featured on the song Broken. His album The Diary (1994) is a classic. It's featured at the start of the movie "Office Space" by Mike Judge. There are some Freddie Gibbs albums that are worth listening to but don’t really need a reaction. I would consider listening to Str8 Killa (2010), Cold Day in Hell (2011) or BFK (2012) for additional thoughts. They’re good, but I don’t think they need a reaction. I would save Bandana (2019) and Alfredo (2020) for a reaction. Bandana was produced by Madlib as well and Alfredo by Alchemist. That’s another awesome producer.

Dylan Woods

This is the first album that I somewhat see you struggling with Bob, so let me clear somethings for you! First when you said the first couple of tracks where mostly about drugs, guns and woman is true but Freddie himself is a big gangster pimp so hes telling you what he sees on a day to day basis from Gary, Indiana … the worst hood in America. Furthermore Freddie is a master at setting up rhyme schemes which could be hard for you to notice at first!

giorgio santelli

Yeah, I started to catch onto this about halfway through. I'm enjoying the earlier tracks more on my second listen

Bob_the_Poppop

i love your reactions bob! i thought this album was just alright when i heard it the first time but it’s grown to one of my favorites. i think you’re missing things on here. freddie’s flow is amazing and the mood he puts me in , spitting these hard lines over these beats just make u feel like ur in the hood, they make you feel like a boss. not every album has to be some deep story, and freddie is legitimately spitting some hard ass lines i think you overlooked in the reaction, he fit the beats perfectly in my opinion

jakob

10/10 album, You should react to Better Off Dead by Flatbush Zombies one of the members, Meechy Darko, was on the last track on Piñata.

Mr. Bigweld

One of my all time favorites

Lance Boldman

You should add "Young Jeezy - Thug Motivation 101" to your list. He a street legend from the early 2000s and gibbs signed to him but they had a fallout

james moore

for sure, bandana first though

Duncan

u gotta do alfredo with freddie and Al

Isiaha

HELL YEAH! I can't believe you made it this far this fast. You got good fans.

FuzzyDunlop

Hmm. Did you try cycling back and forth between full screen mode?

Bob_the_Poppop

Hell ya! gangaaa gibbssss

Dylan

I can view it on mobile well. Only issue is that I can’t see the time stamps of the songs without closing the ten and restarting the video. I don’t think there is a way to solve this though sadly

Jack MacArthur

https://youtu.be/kGaRbhat-FA - Deeper https://youtu.be/qZqPmUtQs2Q - Harold’s https://youtu.be/vbxcPy1qJTU - Thuggin’ https://youtu.be/OwC5ePDNkp0 - Shame here are all of the official music videos!! :)

Alex Bowlin


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