Primer 196: Patron Release
Added 2024-05-21 04:25:06 +0000 UTC
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It's not just you: I posed the same thing above [albeit in a MUCH more long-winded entry! 😄
Bruce Brodnax
2024-05-28 08:38:21 +0000 UTC3. Bruno, YOU ROCK! You can't conceptualize what's happening inside that gun by saying "it's like a _____", because it isn't. Thanks for showing the cheat codes to the Rubik's Cube.
Erik
2024-05-25 16:45:03 +0000 UTC1. Cycle twice before you can fire? IT'S A MAXIM!! XD 2. Before Mae ran it from the shoulder in the end discussion portion, I had the wrong impression that the gun would have been WAAAAY too hard and slow to cycle to double on birds or to keep yourself from being bayoneted in a trench setting. Your reasons for hip-cycling these often ratted-out antiques are valid, but that's gonna need to be a repeated talking point on guns like this where the position makes or breaks the ergonomics.
Erik
2024-05-25 16:41:10 +0000 UTCIs it just me or does the Spencer action look like that of the Madsen?
David Herman
2024-05-24 21:43:08 +0000 UTCHeading over to the Spencer Shooting Society to give them a heads up- great job!
Matthew Stanchfield
2024-05-24 15:30:20 +0000 UTCAnother vote for the clay shooting. Love the video game-esque graphics of the broken clays too!
BSJ
2024-05-22 22:47:31 +0000 UTCThought the PIP of the flying clay and the ongoing count of busted clays at top of screen to be an excellent way of displaying Mae's use of the shotgun. Now, about the periodicity of the demo: properly employ an 8 y.o. boy to stand downrange and throw glass balls; clay birds are a later invention! 😁
Bruce Brodnax
2024-05-22 16:36:53 +0000 UTCPerhaps a disclaimer caption for the newb viewers who don't get the show is going for demonstration not method of use?
Bruce Brodnax
2024-05-22 16:32:02 +0000 UTCAm I the only one seeing that the Madsen Repeating Rifle Syndicate just lifted the operating system of the Spencer, massaged it a little & voila'! -- claimed it as "all new, all singing, all dancing" for their own recoil-operated lmg? 😁
Bruce Brodnax
2024-05-22 16:03:12 +0000 UTC1st off: thank you SO much for tying Sylvester Roper into the rest of the 19th century steampunk chronology! All I've ever seen about him is the typical "Sylvester Roper invented a motorcycle with an unusually light & compact steam engine which he demonstrated successfully & then disappeared into history like a thief in the night:" how appropriate that he is in fact associated with one of the [unsung] giants of 19th century invention, Christopher Spencer, to whom we owe much of our modern industrial production for his invention of the automatic screw machine. [For those who don't grok why this is a VBD, consider everything you can think of held together by screws needing instead to be built like a Chinese puzzle box a la' a Mauser C96!] 2nd, around the 26 minute mark where you are trying to puzzle out Spencer's claim of "single-shot operation" of the repeater, I think it's as simple as what we would discuss today as "restrike capability in case of a dud round" by being able to recock the hammer w/o having to cycle the action. This would have been important simply because the tolerances at that stage of the machine age weren't as close as we can achieve today, so some primers (caps) could be substantially harder [think the difference btw a Wimchester bench rest vs. a CCI military] in the same run, so a quick recock and attempt to refire before shucking it out of the chamber for the next round would amount to a considerable savings in ammo logistics [& lives?] over time. Just my take on it. What does everyone else think? Am I on an oblique orbit about to exit the solar system, or does anyone else think I might be close to Spencer's intent?
Bruce Brodnax
2024-05-22 15:54:00 +0000 UTCGreat episode. Such a cool design. Suggestions for the live fire; I'd also be interested in seeing the pattern printed on paper, as well as more info on the ammunition/loading used for testing.
Joshua Pinson
2024-05-22 01:59:56 +0000 UTC38:44 Scrolling text reads "...anyof..."
Minion
2024-05-21 23:44:47 +0000 UTCheck I love pump actions.
Guido Schriewer
2024-05-21 21:03:54 +0000 UTCloved the episode. you're going to get flak for Mae dropping the gun to her waist to pump it, really defeats the benefit of the pump action.
Mr. Lee
2024-05-21 20:39:21 +0000 UTCInteresting show as always looking forward to the next one
J Coles
2024-05-21 19:52:03 +0000 UTCVery interesting shotgun, thanks for explaining how this works. The split screen to show the shot and the clay worked well.
Glenn Miller
2024-05-21 19:45:33 +0000 UTCit's like a 94 just upside down. all it guts comming out of the top! SO early and they did rods. THAT is early. somehow I assume birdhunting was the very last thing that gun was used for. downside would be ammo there? did they used brass cases or paper?
Guido Schriewer
2024-05-21 19:33:23 +0000 UTCAt 7.00 Othais says that Sylvester Roper was born in 1823 but his dates come up as 1834-1896 on the screen next to his photograph
Douglas Killock
2024-05-21 16:57:17 +0000 UTCWith regards to the hammer rebound, I found when I took mine apart that the firing pin and hammer are auto-rebounding. They have to be, otherwise the firing pin would drag across the back of the casing as the breech drops before the hammer is recocked. Now, technically this means you could lower the hammer on a live chamber and the firing pin won’t rest on the primer. Since the rebound is largely based on the strength of the firing pin return spring, I wouldn’t consider this a particular positive safety by modern standards.
Hunter Compton
2024-05-21 14:19:53 +0000 UTCReally enjoyed the deep dive into the Spencer, as a shotgun shooter of many years this is gold, thanks... Nice one Mae on the 5 clays for 5 shots!
Mick Gillen
2024-05-21 09:39:15 +0000 UTCPrefer it without the background music - thanks. At 6:59 you say Roper was born "1823" but the graphic reads "1834"....
Mick Gillen
2024-05-21 08:32:31 +0000 UTCGreat work, as usual. For the demonstration segment: it work well, adding the shooting from the shoulder is a very good idea and you can think of adding it to the rifle episodes too; the only variation I can think of is having a "normal" split screen, half for Mae and half for the target, but I'm not sure it will work better of the window you have in this episode.
Matteo Manino
2024-05-21 08:26:16 +0000 UTCDon't worry, your ears aren't crazy, this was rendered without music.
C&Rsenal
2024-05-21 04:31:19 +0000 UTC
