The Most Pathetic Reason to go to War (Patreon version)

It's good to see that the msm are actually acknowledging him now. The firebombing has been peak streissand-effect and he's going to be harder and harder to ignore.

Kurt G

Fancy seeing you on 10 News about this Jordies!

his arrogance and pride haunt him. Letting a human like this roam the streets BECAUSE hes done their bidding. This man needs a psych ward. Unfortunately the system will throw you in a psych ward for the opposite, speaking of peace through non-violent means and questioning narratives. How do I know? They did it to me

Said it before the military in this contury is fucked

AJs: We use black humour as a coping mechanism. The looney left need to calm down and learn how to take a joke. The looney left: *cracks a joke about AJs* AJs: What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Lou Kolliver

I think I’m going to puke. The piece was horrific, the comments are devastating.

Should we really be prosecuting our soldiers though? Because consider that for every investigation where sufficient evidence is found to convict someone there will be dozens more soliders who have committed similar crimes but haven't been investigated yet. Won't they just defect knowing there is the potential for them to be investigated and found guilty? We would have a crisis in national security on our hands. I feel as though amnesty is the only way to handle this in a way that ensures everybodies wellbeing.

cubicmetre

https://youtu.be/BdhR_NZJMhg Here's a long conversation between Jordan and David McBride (Veteran)

No, I don't think I'm delusional. I just don't think you fully understand the mindset of a soldier. Do I think warcrimes are okay? No. Do I think warcrimes have any part in our ADF? of course not. Does the ADF have a warcrime culture? I don't believe so. I do think that anybody accused of warcrimes need to be investigate to the fullest extent possible and the Australian legal systems job to determine if they are guilt or not. If they are found guilty of warcrimes they deserve to go to jail for a very long time. The ADF will never release the full investigation into most of these matters. Like it or not a lot of what the SF community does and what happens on operations is classified. If Scojo committed warcrimes and if found guilty of that then he deserves jail. Until that time the guy is just a massive piece of shit.

If you're one of the people "almost rooting for Scojo" by the end of the video, you're delusional

Cubicmetre you're right. I've listened to all of Scojo postcasts a year or so ago and some of my mates know the guy personally. We all thought of the guy as an absolute wanker. He is a bad influence on the next generation of soldiers, they come up through the ranks thinking this is cool, this is the way a soldier should act. What you said about your brother-in-law tuning out before getting to the point is correct. I felt the same. After watching this I didn't know how to feel as I have massive respect for FJ and what he does, that's why I give money each month on his patron, but I felt personally attacked. I felt there were a lot of inaccuracies with what FJ was saying for example Scojo said a lot of sarcastic comments that were taken on face value, ie "the chain of command will always have your back". They don't and that's the joke in the ADF that your CoC will throw you under the bus the first opportunity to advance their career. The same as your BIL I was almost rooting for Scojo by the end, I was almost ready to unsubscribe from FJ youtube and stop donating to his patron. I haven't and I won't, but I really hope that FJ gets a veteran on his podcast for a discussion to clear the air with the veteran community, someone like willy beats cancer maybe.

This is going to come across a bit on the nose but after talking with my brother in law there 2 good reasons for the ADF to be covering what can only be considered warcrimes: 1. In the wake of the Vietnam war, veterans were in fact treated as criminals, they had benefits cut such as pensions and were generally treated with impunity by the general population. This combined with the PTSD of the war culminated in a mass depression of veterans who would then proceed to comit acts of violence and harm to themselves and/or others. This was a massive problem, and the millitary simply wants to avoid making the same mistake. This is why we we label people such as Scojo as war heroes, not because we agree with their actions or think they are commendable for that matter. It's about ultimately preserving life today despite the fact it was previously taken, often without cause or recompense. 2. If we choose to imprison veterans for their actions in a warzone this sets a very dangerous precedent. In fact this becomes a matter of national security. If soldiers are made to feel like they can be prosecuted for their actions, no matter how grim, we could see an exodus of veterans to near peer adversaries who would gladly adopt veterans who commited warcrimes to bolster their defensive capabilities and use their in depth knowledge to counter our strategic position. This is why the ADF is so adamant to pursue legal action against wistleblowers such as David McBride, this is not about covering up embarrassment, there is a much bigger picture and I feel friendlyjordies have simply failed to capture that. I understand that these points directly conflict with the ethics of our civilisation, however when it comes to war we simply cannot apply our privilidged sensibilities. The Taliban commited far worse attrocities despite the fact that they try to operate as a professional millitary like the ADF. In fact Taliban soldiers are specifically trained tactics to exploit our rules of engagement to the fullest extent possible. They employed child soldiers, trained them to shoot and kill ADF soldiers and then surrender immeditately when fired upon. The ad hoc laws for radio devices being considered a weapon were a direct response to the Taliban's blantantly obscene use of IEDs, if you saw an unarmed civilian holding a mobile phone your squadron could be moments away from being liquidifed by a remote IED if they pressed a single button on their phone. The Taliban would absolutely equipe a motorcycle carrying an IED with two soldiers dressed in police colours if it created even the slightest suspension of disbelief in ADF soldiers at a VCP. I also need to point out that Jordan's joke of "Taliban + Motorbike + Bomb = F**ked" was completely insensitive. My brother in law was almost killed by an IED and has had his quality of life effectively cut in half because of it. IEDs were so prevailent in Afghanistan that soldiers were mortally terrified of every rock or pothole they encountered. It pains me to say this given how much I hate our legal system and how much it is exploited by the rich and powerful to cover up crimes against humanity, but I feel as though the case put forward by whistleblowers such as David McBride simply have the potential to cause a lot more harm over a much larger timespan than Jordies has considered. So perhaps this is not the way to go about the issue of warcrimes committed by soldiers in Afghanistan.

cubicmetre

As a non-vet, it is abundantly clear that this video is 100% targeted at war-glorifying nutcases like ScoJo and not servicepeople in general. I understand that a lot of non-psycho veteratans feel attacked by association, but honestly, this ultra-defensive stance of 'if you attack one of us, you attack all of us' is part of the putrid culture that has protected people like ScoJo for so long. It's a bit rich to demand delicate sensitivity when there ScoJos out there cracking smartass jokes about traumatising children and lying to military investigators.

Lou Kolliver

I showed this video to my brother in law who is a veteran from the Afghan war and he was not happy. I think you failed to communicate that this exposition was directed at people like Scojo instead of all veterans and by time you actually got to the point about the hippocracy with Philip mc Bride he was already tuned out and rooting for Scojo. I think you need to be careful about your tone with sensitive topics because you end up polarising people that would otherwise support your arguments against you.

cubicmetre

Thanks for the important and illuminating vid. Much appreciated and good to see the dirty laundry aired

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