Buffy The Vampire Slayer Reaction 3x15
Added 2022-04-05 13:10:08 +0000 UTCHello Buffyverse (is that right?)
The Faith plotline continues & man oh man are they pushing this. I'm scared fir her at this point. I wanna love her, I do, I just worry this spiral is going to get worse before it gets better. Faith lying to Giles saying Buffy is the one that did the kill, like what?! NO...luckily Giles read her like a book. Wesley is frustrating me at the moment, he seems more like a hinderance than a help right now - hopefully this changes. I do go into a bit of a rant about how Willow is treated in this & I feel so protective over her!
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Willow may get shat on but not as much as Wes. Wes is hated because he follows the Watcher’s rules. I seem to recall Giles doing the same a couple of episodes back and drugging Buffy and endangering her life, but he gets forgiven. I don’t know whether Wes’s goofiness makes him easier for characters and reactors to hate him?... I’m never sure if the writers made a mistake in making him an easy scapegoat (at this point) or if we’re supposed to see how unfairly he’s treated, from the first moment. Most people don’t seem to. Buffy’s “Still got your plane ticket back to the mother country?” is not funny and actually shows a repulsive side to Buffy (which is rare).
Todd Bolton
2025-07-08 21:43:56 +0000 UTCI wasn't a member when this was originally uploaded, but am on my second (third?) rewatch. This episode really bothers me because the writers know nothing about the law. The incident was referred to as a murder several times, but that is incorrect. This was involuntary manslaughter. Faith didn't plan to kill a human, she assumed he was a vampire as they had just been in a huge fight seconds before. Now, I'm not forgiving Faith for her actions and lies in the aftermath, but I could sense the guilt she felt. And, of course she reverted to the "I don't care" attitude, but you could see that she did care and felt terrible inside. Also, an American citizen can't be smuggled off to another country, Watcher's Council or not. She has the right to due process and the courts will decide. She is a U.S. citizen that committed involuntary manslaughter on American soil. Yes, yes, I know it's about fictional characters in a fictional setting, but when you have a few lawyers in your family, inaccuracies can make you fixated on them. It's like a disease with no cure and it drives me crazy... help...
Brian Dworak
2025-06-11 06:03:48 +0000 UTCI didnt see the Xander and Faith scene as 'rapy' I got what Xander was doing. He went into the situation knowing Faith would act up, but that she would suddenly break down and confide in him. But Faith went into that situation in a mental breakdown. She needed to prove to herself that she is in control of who lives and dies, in some sick sense of justification. And if not for Angel, Xander would have died, Faith had already broke at that point.
SORPunk
2025-03-10 06:09:12 +0000 UTCPretty sure Cordi was 18 at this point, so not under-age.
Tammy L. Faulkner
2022-10-29 07:03:07 +0000 UTCyour face at the end said it all dak no need for any words cuz youve already thought of them it looks like but another great reaction as they always are :) i think i know whats going on but who knows i might be thinking of another show entirely lol going to jump into your next reaction so i will see :)
Ian
2022-04-10 13:38:36 +0000 UTCI liked this episode and the reaction, but I just want to make one thing absolutely clear. The show wasn't trying to say rape is sexy, and then it just didn't land. They were trying to say Faith is fucked up enough to try to rape a guy, and this is WRONG. Faith confuses violence with sexy, and they were showing that. SHE thinks what she was doing was sexy. We, and the show, know it is not. Also, I think it's worth noting that Faith probably doesn't see what she did as rape, but that's not to be confused with anyone else not seeing it. Angel's reaction, sarcastically saying Xander forgot that safety word, indicates the difference. And Faith's comment, that safety words are for woosies. should be a huge red flag. She doesn't see the word no the way she should. If I'm wrong, okay, but I really don't think this was some sick attempt on the part of the show runners to say rape is good.
Raven Dark
2022-04-08 08:43:09 +0000 UTCThis was a troubling episode, all the way through. Seeing Faith be like that was really hard for me too. I just didn't understand how she could go that far, even considering that she was dealing with what happened. Her progression just seemed to happen so fast. But, she was already troubled when she showed up in Sunnydale, so maybe it wasn't such a far fall after all? The scene with her and Xander was definitely not good. I think the show really did "go there" with that scene. And I think Xander may have trouble dealing with it. I really don't know though, because I don't remember much about some things with the show. Has been a long time since I've watched it. I have seen the whole show a few times, but my memory for details is really crappy. I felt really sorry for Willow too, but I do think she needs to start standing up for herself and not just give in and be there for everyone at the expense of herself. She has needs to and it's not good to push hers aside because she wants to be there for someone else. She's basically that person for everyone else, but she needs someone too and people will just continue to use her because it's just how things are. Not because they're mean, but just because that's the relationship they've developed. But Willow doesn't want to be a bother, so she rarely stands up to people and always gives of herself freely. That's not healthy and likely not sustainable. Sorry! I think this episode just pushed too many buttons for me. eek
Michele
2022-04-06 02:59:01 +0000 UTCThe Xander and Faith scene will always be a rough watch. Definitely SA.
ADDButterfly
2022-04-05 20:59:38 +0000 UTCAmong other things, the Mayor was in an episode of Supernatural. He played a professor in "The Slice Girls" who helps Sam and Dean out with some information.
Steve Quast
2022-04-05 18:57:03 +0000 UTCThe Mayor (Harry Groener) doesn't seem to have been in Friends, but he was in How I Met Your Mother as Ted's hippie stepfather, and in a Charmed Season 3 episode as an empath priest.
Ed Green
2022-04-05 18:07:43 +0000 UTCSuch a good episode... again xD. Yea the Xander/Faith bit was uncomfortable, and i think it was intended that way. Showing that faith is getting more and more addicted to her power over others. Especially since the ones supposed to help her have left or betrayed her again and again. Atleast in her mind. Last episode was definitely a turning point for her. I like Faith too, she's such a good character, and its sad to see her go this way, but imo its soo well written. Can we also give Willow a hug. How alone she's felt and then figuring out that Xander slept with Faith. We'll see how this evolves :).
Bart Aansorgh
2022-04-05 17:56:11 +0000 UTCYeah we were all uncomfortable with the Xander/Faith scene. It was definitely assault. I think it's quite unusual for its time to show a female sexually assaulting a male character like this. Buffy was quite ahead of its time with a few things, despite them not saying much about it afterwards it was still very unusual for its time to even show something like that. I bet you'll have more trust issues now. First you got betrayed in The Boys and now in Buffy... don't trust outspoken brunettes that wear leather... haha (although Faith isn't as bad as Stormfront IMO - nothing's worse than her!)
Sharon Owen
2022-04-05 17:05:25 +0000 UTCI can’t see other comments so I don’t know if anyone else has clarified this or not, but you read that scene with Xander and Faith exactly as it was intended. This was a violent non-consensual situation. And it is disturbing to watch.
Brandon Scott
2022-04-05 17:04:08 +0000 UTCBuffy was 17 when her and Angel had sex - which is the age of consent in California I believe. Wesley at first believed Cordy was a teacher and when he realised she wasn't he got uncomfortable. But I mean Cordelia is about 18 in this episode (maybe 17, depending on her birthday). I'm not sure how old Wesley is supposed to be, late 20s or early 30s maybe? I agree about Faith, she internalises everything and is very defensive. She's an extreme version of Dean from SPN.
Sharon Owen
2022-04-05 17:01:57 +0000 UTCOoh, a new Buffy reaction. This makes my day! And glad to see you're feeling a lot better.
Neil Silverman
2022-04-05 15:46:53 +0000 UTCIt’s 1000% SA and attempted murder. I wish they would have dove a little more into that.
Meredith
2022-04-05 15:45:10 +0000 UTCThis episode is always interesting to me for many reasons. The first thing i always take note of from reactors is how they feel about the Wesley and Cordelia interaction. Up until this point most reactors are perfectly fine with Angel a 200 something year old vampire falling in love and even having sex with a 15-16 underage teenager. But when wesley (who we know is older but not how much older) shows interest in cordelia who is a senior(still a teenager but much more acceptable then when angel met buffy) shows attraction only we are grossed out. We are all hypocrites lol. Her being a student is not really important because wesley is not a teacher and has no authority over her. He is just not a handsome cool vampire guy. Now faith and her arc as a character seems out of left field but i think it falls perfectly in line with what all the characters in the first half dealt with. They all made mistakes. Buffy hid angel and ran away. Xander and willow cheated on their significant others, giles betrayed buffy by drugging her. These actions don't make any of them bad people. They all dealt with their mistakes and moved past it having learned and grown from it. They are flawed. But faith took her actions and now that constant denial has caused her to internalized what she thinks that means about her. She does not see the grey. Its all black and white. She thinks everyone is out for something when they are being nice to her or that everyone is against her. Wesley actions don't help. She is a killer. The bad guy. Because only bad guys murder people. Might as well play the part. That is her thought process. Which is why she joins the mayor. The rest of the season is crazy.
Christopher simeon
2022-04-05 14:59:57 +0000 UTCMaybe this is just my perception but I feel like the scene between xander and faith was rapey slash SA. I also felt like them sleeping together in the first place had hints at that and I was really surprised people didn't seem to think the same. Yes the first time was consensual and there's nothing wrong with losing your virginity through casual sex but it seemed like a big thing for Xander and it seems clear that he felt there was going to be a more emotional connection between them from it. Which when he learned there wasn't, he was clearly upset by that. She didn't care about him at all either time. She kind of used him like a toy to scratched an itch, abused him and discarded him. She basically took his 'innocence'. Maybe that's just the way I see it or maybe I'm reading too much into it but yeah. The second time was no doubt SA and rapey. He said no and she nearly strangled the poor boy to death. I really feel for Xander 🥺
megsyjayner
2022-04-05 14:57:39 +0000 UTCThe Xander/Faith scene was definitely sexual assault and I believe it was intended to make everyone uncomfortable. I always saw it as Faith desperately trying to prove in anyway that she is in control, no matter how extreme. You’re not wrong to feel uncomfortable. I hate it every time I see it, but it definitely has a message.
SuchALittleMonster
2022-04-05 14:51:35 +0000 UTC
