Black Roses V1 by USPCC
Added 2022-03-30 18:41:19 +0000 UTCBeauties, before I talk about the good things, I wanna give you a quick fulfillment update of my last Kickstarter campaign. Currently I'm dealing with a lot fulfillment stuff that stresses me out. There are no problems that can't get solved. But the annoying part about it is that these are things I wouldn't have to worry about if it had been done properly in the first place. Because of the amount of packages HC have issues with the automatic dispatch of all tracking number emails. Instead of solving this problem they just leave this issue to me... Gladly I finally found a way to send everyone their tracking numbers. I'll send them all out after I receive the latest update from HC with the latest tracking numbers.
That's just a quick update for you so that you know that I'm not sleeping. I'll post a new update on Kickstarter, probably at the end of this week. I'm just waiting for the latest update from Hanson Chien.
My original plan was to print the Black Roses V1s with MPC. The title already reveals that I decided otherwise. Which should make many of you even more happy. Of course, it would have been nice to have the MPC deck in a row with all the other V1 reprints from all the different companies. But from a financial point of view, it’s a break in the leg that I don’t want to take. 2500 USPCC decks are cheaper (!) than 1000 MPC decks. This is in no comparison to each other.
In order to get USPCC's Thin Crushed paper stock I'm forced to print 2500 decks. But I think that's also a good number and more decks mean that I can give you even more decks for free in the next "First Come First Serve" Kickstarter reward.
Instead of just one V1 reprint you'll get two V1 reprints on top for free!
I'm not a fan of sold out decks anyway. In our bubble, something is considered successful when it is sold out no matter how high the print run is... As designer I want to see my cards out there. But I also knew that if I simply reprint the V1s with USPCC, many collectors would get angry, since the first print run increased in value. That is also a reason why I started to reprint the V1s with other companies.
However, you know how much I always improve in every new deck, so I think I don't even need to explain to you that this V1 reprint will be vastly different from the first USPCC print run. There are 53 different face cards and since the deck will be marked there are also 52 different backs. But even if I wouldn't do all these changes. I never said that I will never reprint this deck. It's my very first deck. So much love and life time went into the design of these cards. It's crazy to think that I wouldn't want to have this deck printed more often in my whole life. I even hope that someone is going to reprint them in 100 years from now.
My original goal for the first print run was it to print 1000 decks. We ended up with 2500 decks. It was possible to print more. Theoretically, we could have printed 5000 decks back then – those collectors wouldn’t have said anything. But printing 2 x 2500 decks is a reason for some of them to go riot.
I had this problem with my Immergrün reprint. I received the biggest hate mail from a supporter in the Dondorf Kickstarter project who cancelled his support after I have introduced the Immergrün reprint. It was not a small amount – not that it would be important - but it showed me how crazy some collectors react to reprints. All just because I didn’t promote them as “Immergrün V2”. I simply didn’t like the idea to call a reprint “V2”. It sounded too much like a marketing move to me. But I understand now that some people need these separations to understand that is isn't the exact same deck.
Under some card collectors it became an unwritten law that you can't reprint your own cards anymore. What an absurdity. It really is something else when you explicitly say that you’ll never reprint the deck but that simply isn't the case with these decks of mine.
To make it even clearer for everyone which print run it is, I've written the production year on the box. All my decks - except the Innocence decks - have the production year hidden on the tuck box. But I also wanna make it visible in all future decks so that I also know in a few years when these decks got printed.
Thanks for reading.
Much love and stay safe
Daniel
Comments
Love the irony of someone backing the Dondorf Campaign objecting to a reprint of a rare deck! I enjoy reading a cheap copy of The Great Gatsby every year or so. I have a few books like that, favorites that I reread every so often, many more I intend to reread someday. But I rarely miss giving Gatsby a go once a year. I've bought more than a dozen copies. There are millions upon millions of inexpensive editions of Gatsby, but precious few true first edition, first issue copies, with dust wrappers, in superior condition. I should have bought that book when it first hit Brentano's in 1925, but I thoroughly enjoy my reprints. And so I read on, shoulders against a booster, borne back ceaselessly into the past by an ebay trade paperback, $3.95, free shipping. Until I win the lottery (because there's one of those rare copies in Laguna Hills for $7500). That's not to say what's popular today will always be collectible. Frank O'Hara was one of the most popular midcentury American writers. He had published about 30 novels and collections of stories before his death in 1970, won the National Book Award, had movies made of his books, big films starring Rita Hayworth, Frank Sinatra, Elizabeth Taylor, Paul Newman, you name them. He's barely in print today. His National Book Award Winner, like new, can be had for $300. Signed. (But, to be fair, that same guy in Laguna Hills has a cherry copy of O'Hara's first novel for $25K, so the author could be due for a resurgence. Who knows?) That's the other point: Trends blow hot and cold. You can't count on that stuff. If YOU enjoy and use your favorite decks (or favorite books), that's the main thing. And if you got a few extras of a hot one when they were brand new AND inexpensive, all the better!
Thedmo Pink
2022-04-08 07:34:17 +0000 UTCI agree. I love reprints. The originals are great for collecting but I need a lot of decks because I use them and bend them up. And in photos and vids nobody knows if it’s a reprint or not. It’s just about the atheistic. Love what you do man. Just keep doing it.
Joshua Collins
2022-04-02 01:54:14 +0000 UTCYes, this will be the add-on deck that is available straight from the beginning :)
Daniel Schneider
2022-03-31 06:52:47 +0000 UTCAre you going to include the signature v2’s in this campaign or saving them for a later date? Those are probably one of my more anticipated deck releases they’re so beautiful!
Nicholas Lloyd
2022-03-30 23:29:49 +0000 UTCI wish more decks would be re printed. Especially decks I really like using. Something I'm not going to stress about when I'm down to one or two left of a brick hahaha. Some I understand not re printing from a collector stand point, but that is easily fixed with a V2 and some sort of deviation from the first run. If that makes sense. From a business stand, and if I made decks (which I do hope to at some point) I don't think I'm about to let someone tell me I can't reprint.
Lee D
2022-03-30 21:46:15 +0000 UTCHonestly, I wish more cards were reprinted. As someone who got into the collecting game just after some of my favorite decks began to spike in value, it would provide a great way to add designs I love to my collection without paying through the nose. I would add, one special case where some anger may be justified, is reprinting a deck, without some indicator (e.g. year) of the print run, AFTER a deck has spiked in value for a good period of time. If you pay over $100 for a rare deck on the secondary market, only for an exact reprint to come out for $15, you may be a little understandably miffed that you wasted $85. But even putting the print year should give a way for the original run to maintain its value.
DM
2022-03-30 20:30:12 +0000 UTCIt's cool to have a limited deck. Until you realize that most of these decks are simply artificially limited. Commercially, this is a very smart idea but I just don't like it when those thoughts are so much in the forefront.
Daniel Schneider
2022-03-30 19:28:34 +0000 UTCI'm glad you feel the same way :) In hindsight, I know I really should have made it more visible on the Immergrün deck... :D But I think the production year on the new decks is a good indicator.
Daniel Schneider
2022-03-30 19:20:16 +0000 UTCNo worries with
Pierre-Edouard Aubert
2022-03-30 19:06:14 +0000 UTCI am all for reprinting. Makes sense to me. I just would like a way to tell the print versions apart on the tuck :)
Danny Carey
2022-03-30 19:05:02 +0000 UTCI'm much more a collector than I am a magician/cardist, and I absolutely love reprints. And the reason is simple, I only own decks that I like, no matter the reason why. I see no point on having a 200$ worth deck if you don't love how it is, or what you can do with it. So much respect for you Daniel, and thanks for all the hard work
Álvaro Mezcua
2022-03-30 18:49:41 +0000 UTCPersonally the fact that the v1s are being handled by USPCC, I think is such a wise decision considering the drastic change in price points between them and mpc and also because they're more desirable. 😀👍 Also with current fulfillment, ppl will receive their stuff even if it takes an extra couple days. There is no major transgression. They'll be here soon enough and they'll be awesome!
Jorge Anido
2022-03-30 18:49:10 +0000 UTC
