Chapter 1042 - A Historic City
Added 2024-12-16 12:13:00 +0000 UTCWhat even are Records?
This was a question Jake had naturally asked Villy before and gotten a rather generic response that one’s Records were the gathering of all one’s actions and achievements throughout life. One’s Records was made up of one’s Path vice versa. Records were everything... but that only raised more questions.
Because if they were everything, then how could Records be lost? How could someone like Eversmile erase someone’s Records? Did he even erase their Records in the first place when the Malefic Viper could still remember everything everyone was meant to forget?
Would someone everyone had forgotten still have Records at all? If no one remembered them, why would there be? If there was no one left to remember... did the system even bother anymore?
Then what about Records that were erased but someone still remembered... what if memories existed that only a single person in the entire history of the multiverse remembered and had seen? What if what that person had seen... never existed in the first place?
For some unknown reason, Jake was flooded with these questions as he felt his Path of the Heretic-Chosen activate. He felt his consciousness shift... until more was dragged along.
Usually, when Jake used the skill, he would feel as if he had truly gone somewhere, but his soul would remain anchored where he had used the skill. However, this time around, something was clearly different, as rather than experiencing a vision, Jake felt as if he was teleported.
Everything around him shifted, the world dissolving around him, as Jake felt himself be transported. Instantly, he knew that this kind of teleportation, or whatever it could even be called, held more power and conceptual complexity than all of the times Jake had traveled through the void combined. He wasn’t just traveling through space but time and reality.
But was he truly traveling in time? Or was he merely immersed in the memories of the system with both body and soul?
Jake had no answer even as he began to get his bearings. All he knew was that whatever was going on was something that only the system was capable of doing.
A world manifested around him, and suddenly, he had solid ground beneath his feet.
He nearly stumbled in surprise, as for the first time ever, Jake could actually interact with the world he had been transported to. The ground was covered in soft gravel, and Jake found himself standing in the middle of a small city with wooden buildings all around, most of them two stories tall.
Looking at these buildings, the architecture was mostly simple and functional, the structures made of stone and wood, and as Jake looked at them, he noticed the sheer lack of energy in most of them. These were buildings made before the system had arrived... in fact, the entire city looked like something that could have easily been constructed in a medieval world before the initiation.
Down the street, he saw several larger buildings, including a four-story building that, for some reason, stood out to Jake, and far in the distance, a castle sat atop a hill, small buildings leading all the way up to it.
Jake quickly responded by releasing a Pulse of Perception as he scanned the entire large city and even beyond. The city was surrounded by farmland with several small farmsteads all around, and beyond these farmlands, Jake saw woods and overall very normal geography. Almost too normal.
Things seemed oddly small to Jake, which was when he realized something.
It looks a lot like Earth did before the integration.
Not in the sense this planet was a copy of Earth, as the crops and plants were clearly alien, but in that the scope of everything was just smaller. This wasn’t a world that had been expanding by the system, but one that had roughly the same proportions as pre-integration Earth.
However, despite everything looking so normal, this world very clearly wasn’t. Because something was missing... in fact, a lot was missing. Beneath the soil of the farmland, Jake saw only nothingness. Pure void, reminding him of when he looked outside of dungeons.
That in itself wouldn’t be super weird, though. If this was a world manifested by the system, it didn’t need to perfectly recreate everything, right? However, what was weird was the fact that the majority of the buildings in the city and even more so outside were experiencing the same thing.
Some rooms of the houses were simply big voids, nearly all of the cupboards were void, and the spaces between furniture, pictures, and walls didn’t exist at all... in some ways, it kind of reminded Jake of a videogame where the system had only bothered to render the parts Jake would actually see if he walked around.
As Jake stood there taking everything in, the realization that he was entirely alone also hit him. The city looked like it had been alive mere moments prior, as he even saw a horse carriage down the street he was standing on, the reins of the horse now lying on the ground in front of the empty cart with tire marks behind it.
It was as if every other living being had been teleported out of existence, leaving only Jake behind.
More than anything, Jake was confused as he stood there, as things didn’t make any sense. He had focused on the First Sage when he used the skill, so why was he there alone? What was he supposed to see?
Had he somehow been fucking scammed into wasting five uses of Path of the Heretic-Chosen to teleport to some empty pre-system city?
Luckily, before Jake could spiral too much, he appeared.
Out of nothingness, as if he had always been there, an old man suddenly manifested only a few meters away. He looked exactly like he had during the prior visions with the Malefic Viper, except he now wore a simple gray robe and looked a bit less kept than he had during Jake’s prior visions.
The man was standing with his back to Jake, looking at one of the buildings. It was a building unique in that it was whole. There were no voids within, the system having bothered to render every part of it.
Jake couldn’t help himself as he scanned the man, filled with confusion... something a quick Identify quickly explained why.
[Human – lvl 9]
It was no trick or a skill hiding the man’s real grade... the First Sage standing right there was truly just a G-grade human. Someone weak enough to die from Jake breathing too hard. At least, that’s how Jake usually felt when he stood in front of someone so weak, yet in front of this old man, Jake’s instincts keenly warned him that attacking would be most unwise.
Not that Jake had any intention of being aggressive in the first place, he simply couldn’t help himself but size up anyone and everyone he came across. He wasn’t even sure if the old man had noticed Jake yet as he stood there for a few seconds, simply looking at the house before sighing.
“This is – was – my home for over fifty years,” the First Sage spoke. “I bought it using the inheritance from my father, who passed away when I was still a young man. It was honestly too big for me... but I couldn’t sell it. Even if I remember the house perfectly, I can distinguish between my own memories and reality, and giving up being able to visit would have been too much. I would have loved to see it once more... but alas.”
Jake was confused and unsure what to say as the man turned toward him. He gave Jake a light smile, finally speaking to Jake for the first time.
“Would you walk with me?”
Still perplexed, Jake just nodded automatically as the First Sage led the way, Jake just following along as they began walking down the street. They were heading toward a large building in the distance – the one that Jake felt stood out before – and as they walked, Jake couldn’t help himself.
“Excuse me... but what exactly is going on right now?” Jake questioned out loud, feeling that this entire situation was very odd.
“A great question that we will need patience to answer,” the man said, continuing his steady pace. As they got closer to the large building, the First Sage began talking again as he motioned to different buildings around him. “You see that building? It belonged to Majali, one of the best bakers in the country. Without fault, I always got my bread there as there simply was no better. Ah, and that there is Pielddro and Son, a rather misleading name as even the grandson had gotten involved toward the end. Truly a family of skilled carpenters and good people that many owed favors due to their kindness. We had a particularly harsh winter where they sacrificed much of their stock to make sure everyone had warm houses...”
The First Sage kept pointing out buildings during their walk, Jake staying silent as he just listened. He learned about dozens of families who had lived in the city from the old man, and it was clear the First Sage had known them all well personally. He tended to include how he personally knew and interacted with the people there, his tone nostalgic.
Something that really didn’t make any sense. Jake was supposed to experience a Record Fragment right now. A snapshot of history... but this clearly wasn’t it. Sure, he was in a location that had long become history, but that wasn’t the same, far from it.
Jake was also keenly aware the reason for all this was the level 9 human in front of him – a level that also made no damn sense. That is, unless this truly was the First Sage shortly after the integration, and seeing as the town remained relatively whole as if it hadn’t been that long since the system arrived, that could be the case.
Then again, that just raised more questions, and he really hoped he would get some answers sooner rather than later.
Reaching the steps leading up to their destination, the First Sage stopped talking about the other random houses and turned toward Jake.
“This here is the Great Library. I know it may not look like much compared to what you’ve seen before, but to me and many others, this was the greatest treasure of our small country. A house of knowledge and learning that gave the common man hope of bettering himself,” the First Sage explained, leading Jake up the steps.
At the top of the stairs, a large wooden door opened when they got close. Jake did not feel any movement of energy as it did so.
Walking inside, Jake saw lit candles lighting up the four-story tall library. The entire building was large and wooden, with books stacked on top of books everywhere on all four floors. Jake had expected the place to have a musky smell, but instead, it had a fresh scent, making it clear how well-maintained the library was.
“I was a librarian... the librarian,” the First Sage said, walking inside as he slightly touched one of the many wooden pillars holding up the second floor. “This library was my workplace and my second home. For the last forty years before the initiation of the system, I was in charge here. It was my pride and joy.”
Jake looked around the library more, seeing the tens of thousands of books gathered there. It was an impressive collection, especially for a medieval world. Every single book looked handwritten, and Jake could only begin to guess how much time and effort had been spent creating and collecting them all.
“I’ve always loved books,” the First Sage continued, taking one out of a bookshelf as he opened it. “Perhaps it’s because I relate to them. Books are... perfect. The content of a book doesn’t change with time but remains the same, the knowledge within perfect as long as the book persists. Memories of man change with time and warps to fit perception. It’s flawed.”
Skipping through a few pages of the book, the First Sage smiled as he quickly skimmed the pages. “Books and the knowledge within are how humanity even knows our history, something that’s true across all planets. It’s something that truly unites us. Out of all the different races, we are second to none when it comes to immortalizing knowledge in writing.”
He closed the book and placed it back on its shelf, exactly where he had taken it, down to how far inside the shelf it had been. “We humans are short-lived. Elves, even before the system, lived hundreds of years, making the need for writing down history less as they often had someone alive who remembered history. Word of mouth was good enough for them. The same was true for many other races, while others simply didn’t see the need to write down the past. A shame, really.”
Jake, once more unable to hold himself back anymore, couldn’t help but ask. “Where exactly are we?”
“In the past,” the First Sage gave Jake the first actual answer. “A fragment of it, anyway. One that never existed, yet once did. What you see all around you is history. My history... and my Records.”
“What do you mean when you say this place never existed?” Jake questioned.
“Oh, it did exist. It’s just that what you see now didn’t,” the First Sage said as he sighed, staring out at the vast library. “This world is created entirely from my memory. My Records. I am the only one who remembers it, with even the system having chosen to forget.”
“Is that why the world seems incomplete?” Jake asked, having reached a realization.
“Exactly so. The world you see is made from my memory, but how can I remember what I never knew in the first place? I have been to most places in this city and seen most buildings, but naturally, I couldn’t have visited everywhere. Those places you see as voids are merely gaps in my memory, nothing more, nothing less,” the First Sage explained as he moved toward a table, motioning for Jake to follow.
“Humans tend to fill in the gap themselves when they don’t know something. Their imagination takes over, and they form an image of falsehood in their mind that slowly morphs into truth. Don’t get me wrong, this falsehood is often incredibly close to the truth. It’s no stretch to imagine that beneath the upper layers of soil, there will be more soil, rocks, clay, and all the other elements one would assume to find down there... but I don’t imagine these things. Not because I’m incapable of it but because I choose not to. I want to know, not imagine.”
Jake followed the First Sage to sit at the table. The lit candles were quite frankly rather useless due to the great natural lighting that seemed to hit the table perfectly, making it a great reading spot.
“But I’m also keenly aware I can’t know everything. Only strive to. Yet, over the years, it began to irk me when I don’t know something,” the First Sage explained. “It makes me curious to the extreme.”
The First Sage looked directly at Jake as he sat across from him. “And you truly sparked my curiosity when I saw you that day. You were someone not meant to be there. Someone I didn’t remember being there, yet you were. I also know you weren’t there because of me but because of Vilas. A visitor of his, not of my time. Tell me, what era are you from?”
The question seemed rather normal to ask... except...
“How do you even know what eras are?” Jake asked back, frowning. The First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a thing. It was like someone asking about the “First World War” while living before the second one took place. It just didn’t make sense.
“I simply do. Now please, what era?” the old man continued, unoffended by Jake’s question.
“The ninety-third,” Jake decided to just answer honestly.
“Ninety-third, huh...” the First Sage muttered before smiling. “That makes me happy to hear.”
“If I may... why did you tell me all these things while walking here?” Jake asked a question that honestly wasn’t even that important. He just couldn’t hold back his curiosity.
The First Sage seemed pleased with the question, though, as he gladly explained. “As I said, this world is made from my memory. I’m also the only one remembering this place and the people who once lived here, but now, so do you. It brings me comfort knowing that someone else is also aware of their existence. Also, I believe it is only polite to introduce myself, and I see no better way of doing so than letting you know about my life and history. Which brings me to perhaps my most important question...”
Jake had gone into this entire thing believing the First Sage had reached out to Jake because he knew something. Knew about him. How else could he have engraved the message in the boots? How else could he have known about Path of the Heretic-Chosen? It had seemed like such a safe assumption. However, the question asked by the old man shattered that perception instantly.
“Who are you?”
Comments
Kinda wished he got scammed and was just stuck in an empty city for a few hours
Tris Jack
2025-02-04 14:16:07 +0000 UTCNo, she's a God from the 2nd era
vio
2025-01-28 18:04:33 +0000 UTCI thought Umbra was a Primordial?
Grond (James)
2025-01-24 22:23:50 +0000 UTCIt doesn't
Ray Light
2025-01-21 18:55:22 +0000 UTCwhile you are entitled to take the time off, how will this affect billing?
Dave
2024-12-22 02:33:59 +0000 UTCthat was the cost of a different skill
Dave
2024-12-22 02:08:03 +0000 UTCJake is from a different universe. Not possible for them to be related, especially since Jake was born before the System.
Daniel Brian
2024-12-18 17:03:41 +0000 UTCHave a good time off.
Joshua Little
2024-12-18 02:25:59 +0000 UTCOh Jake has activated the trap card played almost exclusively by the old, story time. Jake better strap in because the First Sage isn't going to give straight answers, he'll be telling stories about "back in his day!" Haha
Pickled Rick
2024-12-17 13:40:57 +0000 UTCWouldn't it be more likely that the system holds onto the true soul and sorta (pardon my lack of useful terminology) "scrapes off some records and mixes them up into an item" and then feeds them to people with the chance they can get the bloodline or whatever?
MilkTheShark
2024-12-17 11:53:28 +0000 UTCI hope you enjoy your time off. Best wishes to you and yours.
Blaq Jesus
2024-12-17 11:35:42 +0000 UTCOn the topic of why he begs Vilas to kill him, a few things come to mind: Is Vilas remembering it just the way he wants to? Like the Sage just said, people tend to warp their own memories over time, and this would have been prior to Vilas usurping the bloodline. Second, maybe the Sage needed to experience death in System to achieve his goal, whatever that goal really was, because becoming one with the system seems odd by itself, unless he was doing it so he could know everything the system does, since he has an OCD about knowing things. (I can relate, but I have my limits on understanding) Lastly, maybe it was all a ruse or misleading and he’s not really dead at all. (Sorry for the essay! lol)
Daniel Brian
2024-12-17 10:57:42 +0000 UTCMemory based will be a terrible idea for Jake due to his sphere of perception currently needing a filter not to be overwhelming. Imagine him remembering everything his perception touched all the time? That will be horrible. Also it will need to be passive all the time e.g. Holy Mother’s. I don’t see what he can offer as cost for such a skill.
Mat
2024-12-17 10:53:58 +0000 UTCSeems to me that the charges are dependent on the amount of time(s) it will take Jake to get the point of whatever its teaching.
Daniel Brian
2024-12-17 10:48:12 +0000 UTCSage could have a transcendence to allow his memory to cross through time. Jake has a high unexplained affinity with time. Jake's bloodline concepts clearly have some roots in time. "Primal" I see as early stage or beginning instinct.
Anthony Smith
2024-12-17 10:48:05 +0000 UTCThe notes on his awesome boots that told him, after a fashion, to save up 5 charges to meet with (presumably, and now definitely) the First Sage.
Daniel Brian
2024-12-17 10:45:53 +0000 UTCMy guess is that the truth is they’re code being run on a simulation in some omniversal neckbeard’s laptop and it’s his Super-Harvard final project
Asher Mack
2024-12-17 10:37:11 +0000 UTCBloodline stuff aside, Jake easily has the raw talent and dedication required for a transcendence. And a pretty good one I would wager. If the first sage can get 4 by late C grade despite having a bloodline, Jake can get 1 at least I reckon.
Asher Mack
2024-12-17 10:32:06 +0000 UTCIf this is the first sage shortly after the integration, does that mean Jake met with the sage before Villy and any others Primordials. Unless this is like a parallel world simulation or dream simulation. The sages bloodline ability could possibly apply to the situation too.
Anthony Smith
2024-12-17 10:29:33 +0000 UTCBro.. what if Jake is the daddy of records?
Asher Mack
2024-12-17 10:29:00 +0000 UTCThis is some good shit.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-17 09:16:30 +0000 UTCCurious that the Sage doesn't know who Jake is. After reading about his curiosity and wish to know everything, my guess was that he somehow found information about Jake's bloodline from their prior meeting (through Path of the heretic Chosen) and hopes to get information about the Origin of the System with the help of Jake's bloodline.
Naotani
2024-12-17 09:09:23 +0000 UTCNope it is Tom
Gurracreek
2024-12-17 08:18:15 +0000 UTCHelp. What is the engraving in the shoes is again?
Eiv
2024-12-17 07:20:02 +0000 UTCIt's bloodline fuckery along with system fuckery. Like I said, levels of fuckery afoot. If a bloodline is the origin of a true soul then the bloodline of "Immortal Mind" being perfect recall, then having a record such as viewing of a memory amends a record and so opens it up for system fuckery too. Like... So much fuckery. Bloodlines are outside the system's purview? Fine. We have two bloodlines that deal in massive amounts of fuckery enabled further by the system fuckery! If everything is a record then the bloodline "Immortal Mind" is one massive API enabling just huge amounts of buggy stuff in need of amendment.
NovaZero
2024-12-17 06:27:22 +0000 UTCIs normal to smile and get goosebumps multiple times while reading this chapter or am I just a weirdo?
Jorge salazar
2024-12-17 06:00:18 +0000 UTCI am sure Greg bit you to it
Mat
2024-12-17 04:16:26 +0000 UTC5 uses for an biography interview
Mat
2024-12-17 04:14:56 +0000 UTCTftc!
Chase Burton
2024-12-17 03:39:02 +0000 UTChow long before Jake realizes Tom is the first sage?
brjenness
2024-12-17 03:30:09 +0000 UTCKeeper of records. First sage.
Abhishek
2024-12-17 03:29:58 +0000 UTCSame way it created a sim Jake with a bloodline. Same true soul, same bloodline. The only hole in the logic is that Villy has the bloodline now. Presumably, the system copies the bloodline, as it cannot access the true soul, and thus cannot take the bloodline. It’s been implied that bloodlines/transcendents aren’t actually outside system control, just that the system chooses not to control them. It wouldn’t surprise me if the system is capable of copying bloodlines. It would however be strange if the system can take them away from a true soul, as that breaks established rules.
Sloth
2024-12-17 02:51:37 +0000 UTCHe doesn’t have gaps in his memory he just makes himself not imagine what could be below the ground what’s in the room he’s never been inside of literally everything actually there he remembers but he never saw what was in the places that are voids he didn’t forget he just doesn’t know
Phoenixdrop
2024-12-17 01:08:07 +0000 UTCNot saying my theory is likely, but it is a fun one that makes sense to me.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-17 00:43:31 +0000 UTCbut...but... bloodlines are outside of system control...how can the system create a Sim sage with a bloodline? system fuckery, I guess?
brjenness
2024-12-17 00:41:17 +0000 UTCThe entirety of the real world internet was based on the "communications model" made by two people, and it grew from there to know hold the sum of all human knowledge. Just as the FS and Jake's bloodlines could be used to create a framework for the system. One part is used as the basis for a perfect memory, Villy has the FS bloodline and if they were somehow still connected, then the bloodline would have existed just as long as the system and been around for every skill ever made/used (Villy got the bloodline from the system?, so it could be pushed to say that the FS as an admin? Of the system could see everyone connected to the system) therefore it knows every skill ever because it has already seen it (this is farfetched but could be expanded upon throughout more of the story) and then the second part, Jake's bloodline would be used as the fuel for potential. The bloodline is not powerful because of Jake, but Jake is powerful because of the bloodline. The bloodlines whole shtick is that there is nothing above it or even equal to it, which implies that it is all powerful. Jake can only use a infinitely small portion of the bloodlines power. Therefore we have the capacity to remember everything ever and be able to grow with no ceiling.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-17 00:40:21 +0000 UTCOkay, 2 guys against the records collected by the system from countless gods and nearly infinite mortals over the course of 93 eras. Jake has only lived a brief moment in time in one era that contains billions of galaxies with trillions of other residents. The First Sage only lived in the 1st era on a single planet for again, a small snippet of time. No matter how powerful the First Sage is/was OR how powerful Jake will eventually become, their power will always be insufficient for the task. 2 ants are never going to be able to carry the trillions of other ants upon their backs. The system is SO far beyond the capabilities of their bloodlines (past and future) that the mere attempt would disintegrate them. Too many gods/mortals/bloodlines/Transcendents/History/Records/Realms/Universes/Eras/Dungeons/Minagas/Primordials/skills/paths/artifacts/Truesouls and countless other things that I'm forgetting about.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-17 00:23:11 +0000 UTCrandom piece of info I had forgotten about and look forward to seeing...Sandie has a vespernat hive in his stomach.
brjenness
2024-12-17 00:07:25 +0000 UTCOh hey bloodline shenanigans make a lot of sense. Similar also to how sim Jake could notice Jake watching him and it had a cascade effect through the simulation. The Sage's Records also live on through the boots and have had those records strengthened a lot over the grades. My guess is the most recent upgrade of the boots was when he became forbidden knowledge.
DrSubterfuge
2024-12-16 23:39:04 +0000 UTCI am the terror that flaps in the night! (Darkwing Duck reference)
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:21:10 +0000 UTCI'm quaking in utter terror over Friday's expected cliffhanger...
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:19:54 +0000 UTCDitto. The First Sage mystery has been my favorite part of The Primal Hunter.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:15:23 +0000 UTCAnd he did this as a medieval librarian? I'm kinda getting a "Lack of proper technology" vibe from this setting...
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:13:17 +0000 UTCIf I was Jake I'd be proclaiming pre-system achievements just to mess with him. "Back in 2017 I won my league's fantasy football championship. In May 2018 I came in second place for "Employee of the Month" at work. Do you wanna hear about all of my participation trophies I've earned?" Stuff like that...
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:11:03 +0000 UTCThe First Sage chapters are my personal favorites 😁
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:04:00 +0000 UTCHe created the system while having a desk job in a random medieval town? I think that he lacked the proper amount of spit, bailing wire and duct tape to construct such a behemoth...
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 23:03:03 +0000 UTCConsidering that we've just found out that the First Sage was a Librarian in some random medieval town, I think that you're right and it's a safe bet that he had nothing to do with creating the system. It really should be interesting finding out more about how he "interacts" with the system and if he's some sort of ghost in the machine.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:58:45 +0000 UTCThankies
Phasmatic7
2024-12-16 22:57:05 +0000 UTCAdam. The First Sage's name should be Adam, the original keeper of Forbidden Knowledge. Last name in medieval times usually reflected one's profession OR the profession of one's parent I believe?
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:55:27 +0000 UTCWhere did I say he was going to do it right now? If this happened, the earliest it would happen would be when he is on the verge of Godhood. Also, as I said originally the records and memory portion of the system would fall under the First Sages bloodlines and Jake and his bloodline would be about giving the system the potential to grow and reach the apex. My theory is highly unlikely, but at least give actual reasons why it couldn't happen.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 22:53:31 +0000 UTCThe only thing connecting all of the Primordials to the First Sage is Jake's boots, which showed Eversmile Karmic Ties to all of the Primordials. This is a mystery that hasn't been solved yet. He can't be the daddy of all Primordials, unless he got freaky with a snake and a stormcloud elemental and a tree and a bunch of other nonhuman beings of questionable sapience. The First Sage is known to have died on his home world that was sterilized by Villy. The First Sage being the father/teacher of all Primordials would require some very flexible story gymnastics. The mystery will most likely be solved another way.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:47:47 +0000 UTCJake nearly offed himself by using his bloodline on Palate of the Malefic Viper and now you're proposing that he can use his bloodline on the entirety of the system incorporating the Records of everything that has occurred in 93 eras? Yeah, no. Hard pass for me.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:38:53 +0000 UTCNope. He and Villy shared the same world. A world in which Villy cleansed of ALL life (even microbial I believe) before venturing forth into the wider universe. The only way Jake is a direct descendant is if before Villy went on a killing spree a descendant of the First Sage decided to leave the world behind. Unlikely, maybe not impossible though.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:33:06 +0000 UTCCecilia, you're breaking my heart. You're shaking my confidence...
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:22:24 +0000 UTCThank you Jeff Moore! I had trouble conceptualizing that sentence and would not have understood it without the explanation. It went right over my head and I thought that the author made a mistake. I should have known better...
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:20:47 +0000 UTCVillains don't typically beg someone to kill them. Also, he hasn't twirled his mustache once, so if he's a villain he really sucks at it. ;-)
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:16:22 +0000 UTCI think he’s about to find out an awful lot more about Records, and how they actually work. Which will naturally come with some benefits.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 22:15:10 +0000 UTCYep! I wanna know why the system charged Jake 5 times for this one meeting. It'd be a hard pill to swallow if it's just for a meet and greet. Knowledge is power and I expect the First Sage to be holding onto some goodies.
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:13:18 +0000 UTCAll people born before WWII would have called WWI “The Great War” or “The War To End All Wars”. No one would have called it WWI, because II hadn’t happened yet. Which is the point.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 22:12:56 +0000 UTCThank you for the chappy Zogarth! Should we be worried that the system chooses to forget history/records? The First Sage has gaps in his memory? He is the originator of the Bloodline of the Immortal Mind. Does that mean that the First Sage had his Bloodline removed? When did that occur? At death? When the system rewarded the Malefic Viper his Bloodline?
JJB4345_80_815
2024-12-16 22:05:02 +0000 UTCIt is neither implied nor confirmed.
Luke Scheffe
2024-12-16 22:04:06 +0000 UTCHeres hoping
Chloe
2024-12-16 21:17:21 +0000 UTCTyftc
Chloe
2024-12-16 21:16:43 +0000 UTCThat’s gotta be close…
Asher Mack
2024-12-16 21:15:50 +0000 UTCSagedIn
Asher Mack
2024-12-16 21:14:59 +0000 UTCThe Sage wants to talk about himself and Jake wants to know how this is happening. I don't care, system fuckery works for me. I want to know what the next step is for Jake. How should he pursue power. The boots have a connection to all the primordials, so will the sage show Jake how to get that far?
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-16 21:04:43 +0000 UTCSpeaking of that, he needs to start working on the puzzle box again. I wanna see what's inside.
Damascus
2024-12-16 21:01:43 +0000 UTCUm I think there's only one simulacrum. In Villy's bloodline. Villy didn't get a heart after killing the Sage. He convinced the system to give him the sage's bloodline. The system probably doesn't have limits on the number of simulations it can do. Which is why the myriad paths event shows everyone the outcomes from different choices.
Michael Ferguson
2024-12-16 20:57:53 +0000 UTCIm thinking first sage is a villain!
Korrasis
2024-12-16 20:49:41 +0000 UTCActually I'm pretty sure there is a joke about a time traveler going in the 1920th and asking a random person about WW1.
Grine
2024-12-16 19:58:20 +0000 UTCI think we've seen an example of what is happening with the first sage happen when Villy helped Jake. The bloodline would allow any version of the Sage to remember everything he knows. Since the record of the Sage lives on through Villy, the system remembers and created this Sage who then remembers everything. This is could also be why he made himself forbidden knowledge, so that the system doesn't make more Sage echoes.
TyranT-Rex
2024-12-16 19:41:17 +0000 UTCIt is heavily implied, but not out right confirmed. The only person who knows of the first sage is Villy and Jake. For some reason knowledge of him is designated as "forbidden knowledge" by the system and they can't explain who he is to even other primordials, as seen when they try and fail to explain the origin of Jake's boots to Eversmile.
Accio123
2024-12-16 19:33:12 +0000 UTCAnd their little fluffy dog, Parsley
Zack Leach
2024-12-16 19:19:05 +0000 UTCAt that point they would not call it world war 1 they would probably just call it the war
Death56
2024-12-16 19:09:53 +0000 UTC#1 doesn't make any sense. Maybe partial omniscience, but doubtful. considering it took the first sage to use a transcendent skill Jake was put into by the system, to know Jake was there. Jake felt the gaze of the "presumably " First sage on villy before vilastromoz knew who the first sage was. Thus it doesn't make sense, because: 1: Jake did not feel the gaze of someone watching him during all the other times Jake saw the first sage's and vilastromoz interactions, but clearly felt the first sage's on someone else when it made no sense for him to know who he was at the time of viewing. 2: the first sage didn't know he was being observed until he was pulled into the use of a transcendent skill. So partial omniscience and omniscient is out of the table. Nope I think if there was an arc to be pulled out of the first sage it will be something bigger than the system can handle and waaaaaay down the line or it was already pulled off by the first mention of the sage. Nope I think this is gonna be massive lore dump and world (system) building and the possibilities after the lore dump are kinda endless.
Jeremiah Lambert
2024-12-16 19:02:08 +0000 UTCThe analogy holds up just fine in the case you mentioned, as it references a snip it in time before the 2nd world war regardless if you were born before, during or after world war 1. Before the 2nd world war no one called the first, "world war one". Much like in America, we don't call it civil war 1 as there hasn't been and hopefully won't be a second. Anywho, great chapter!
Jeff Moore
2024-12-16 19:01:57 +0000 UTCWorld War I was called "The Great War" or "The War to End All Wars" before the onset of World War II, so the analogy is correct.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 18:57:33 +0000 UTCHow?
jazz
2024-12-16 18:53:09 +0000 UTCcookies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Julia Niles
2024-12-16 18:48:44 +0000 UTCIt was like someone asking about the “First World War” while living before the second one took place. Might want to use a better analogy. This statement could have and probably did happen with the children born between world war 1 and world war 2.
female person type thing
2024-12-16 18:35:26 +0000 UTCHere, I’ll help! The First Sage’s real name is actually…Sage. His wife’s name was, of course, Rosemary. Their surname was, very naturally, Thyme.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 18:32:46 +0000 UTCOh maybe. I didn't think about that.
Noah
2024-12-16 18:19:08 +0000 UTCNo. This is just a recreation.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 18:13:54 +0000 UTCNah. He just manages the Records department. He’s a Librarian. And a damn good one.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 18:12:10 +0000 UTCHe’s a Librarisn. He manages the Records department. And in this case, has not read every book in the Library, especially the ones from the newest Universe. He does keep his thumb on the Records involving himself, though. Including the Boots.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 18:11:06 +0000 UTCFascinating
Noah
2024-12-16 18:10:28 +0000 UTCDon't forget Bloodline fuckery. If the Immortal Mind has perfect recall, then someone viewing a memory causes weird kinds of hijinks just logically. And besides, being so bound by time when there's multiple levels of fuckery afoot is silly.
NovaZero
2024-12-16 18:10:25 +0000 UTCTFTC!!!
Jose Reyna
2024-12-16 18:09:53 +0000 UTCIt’s Bob. It’s always Bob. (From my D&D days. Any NPC we didn’t know the name of—or, who had a name too hard to pronounce—was always Bob)
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 18:08:19 +0000 UTCNope. This is just a stage set that anyone who was in high school drama should recognize.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 18:05:10 +0000 UTCNo! I am Mi.
NovaZero
2024-12-16 18:02:16 +0000 UTCNah. The Firsf Sage is essentially a subroutine of the System. He handles Records—as a good Librarian would. They aren’t back in the First Era, just a stage play of the First Sage’s early life. Set up as a place the two can meet. If anything, they’re outside of Time right now.
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 17:58:31 +0000 UTCHuh. So…Jake is making friends with the dude the System hired to handle its Records department. That’s some pretty good networking. Suppose he’s on LinkedIn?
Jeff McCulley
2024-12-16 17:52:48 +0000 UTCBro, what a horrible place to stop. I’m so excited I can barely contain myself.
The Dregs
2024-12-16 17:47:28 +0000 UTCPretty sure it’s been stated it is either impossible or the system prevents it. There Might be an explanation for time travel, but I think it would be rather jarring considering how much time travel has been averted so far. It’s always been the system copying the past when it wants to ‘time travel’. Never true time travel. My own reason as to why true time travel is impossible is because it would mean affecting the true soul. Though, there may be a way to sort of reverse everything in the multiverse at once, including everyone’s memories… yeah, no one is powerful enough for that, and it still wouldn’t affect the true soul.
Sloth
2024-12-16 17:32:27 +0000 UTCYu am Mi?
Azazel
2024-12-16 17:27:36 +0000 UTCIs it possible Jake just unlocked an Overmind transcendent? I can see it being something like this entire landscape & the first sage take up a small portion of his brain from which he can escape to similar to his soul. And he can store & access all knowledge and converse with the first sage for guidance as the first sage also learns new things. This happens accidentally because he achieved so many levels with the puzzle box thus allowing him to compartmentalize his mind and some his Jake juice started to leak out into the environment by itself. Ooh the possibilities are endless.
Ender419
2024-12-16 17:14:54 +0000 UTCEverything can be explained really easily… System fuckery
Lunch Box
2024-12-16 17:11:49 +0000 UTCI'd like to see some sort of memory based transcendence for Jake. His bloodline doesnt do much there but it would work pretty well together with his bloonline. I'd be surprised if he walked away from this conversation with one but wouldn't be surprised if it made it to his pre B grade checklist Also I think all of you who think the first stage had something to do with the creation of the system are wrong. The guy is all remembering not all knowing.
matthew strong
2024-12-16 17:11:11 +0000 UTCWas there an instance where we were told that time travel was flat out impossible? I must have forgotten it. Also, we have been shown many times that Jake isn't affected by time the same way everyone else is because of his bloodline. All the way back during the tutorial when Eversmile stopped time Jake was unaffected by the time stop, plus if I remember correctly Villy was surprised by Jake's Moment of the Primal Hunter because he shouldn't have been to affect time at all at the level he was currently at. There's a big difference between slowing/stopping time and traveling backwards through it, but as power levels go up I feel like it could be a possibility.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 17:10:37 +0000 UTCOh boy we are at the big one now now we just sit back and get lore slammed down our throats can’t wait
Phoenixdrop
2024-12-16 16:59:07 +0000 UTCI dont think jake had anything to do with the origins of the system. His bloodline might in some sort of super grandparent way but not jake himself.
matthew strong
2024-12-16 16:57:33 +0000 UTCIf I remember correctly to go from a mortal to a God it is more than just, reach the correct level, but you have to complete a task that is considered noteworthy enough for your records, like killing a current God or in this case creating the system. Maybe?
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 16:57:15 +0000 UTCWhen Jake has used the skill before to see Villys past the First Sage sees him and has interacted with him which to me implies that he is actually traveling in time to view those instances. I could have miss read or misinterpreted those chapters though.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 16:55:15 +0000 UTCAll the comments talking about time travel when it’s been pretty well established that time travel is not possible. I think what’s happening is some weirdness with the system creating sage simulacrums like we have here. This creates weirdness because they aren’t actually snapshots of the sage in the past since each simulacrum has the sages bloodline (obviously). So the simulacrums have continuity of thought (presumably in the order the simulacrums are created). The question, then, is how many first sage simulacrums are there/have there been? Who/what is creating them? And what the hell happened when the system first came? We’re originally led to believe he remembered something he shouldn’t have, but what if we take that to the extreme? What if he remembers an entire other multiverse or something? What if the sage is just on living repeat, every new system having to go through the eras again. It would make some amount of sense, and perhaps that time between integrations, when no universe has a system, grants him a reprieve, and that is why he was excited when he heard it was the 93rd era. Perhaps 100 is the magic number? End of the multiverse before the system starts again?
Sloth
2024-12-16 16:49:03 +0000 UTCJake is the Sages’s direct descendant, calling it now.
Krispy sock
2024-12-16 16:48:06 +0000 UTCWhile possible eventually I think Jake would need to become a god first or be real close to it.
ABTelford
2024-12-16 16:47:28 +0000 UTCHahaha! “Who are you?” And now…hehe, Jake realized he just might have wasted all those uses for Path other Heretic-Chosen. Hehe! The thought has me giggling! Though I’m sure our dear author won’t disappoint us readers in any way so…I’m excited for the next chpt! 🙂
ABTelford
2024-12-16 16:45:28 +0000 UTCThis makes some amount of sense, though there is the issue of time travel. We’re fairly certain time travel doesn’t actually exist. There may be an explanation around this though.
Sloth
2024-12-16 16:34:02 +0000 UTCEdit suggestion: 'One’s Records w[as]->《ere》 made up of one’s Path 《and》 vice versa'
Chewbacchus
2024-12-16 16:31:27 +0000 UTCThink he is wanting jake to acknowledge his origin
Red45jimster
2024-12-16 16:26:44 +0000 UTCI’m definitely feeling that Jake is going to make his first Transcendent skill here.
Azayrian105
2024-12-16 16:26:33 +0000 UTCTftc
Rahsheem Reid
2024-12-16 16:25:19 +0000 UTC@AetherBoye I’m aware he has perfect memory from his bloodline I think his transcendence allowed him to “remember” events that have yet to happen to him but will happen to him. So after he achieved it he “remembered” everything that will ever happen to him in the future across all possible futures. As far as I am aware Villey has not shown any kind of bloodline related precognition and is fully capable of being surprised not just by Jake but by anything really. This is why Jake “appearing” and “surprising” him would be a big deal it’s something he didn’t foresee possibly the only event since his transcendence he didn’t foresee.
Kain
2024-12-16 16:17:43 +0000 UTCThanks!
Trevor Mergen
2024-12-16 16:14:25 +0000 UTCAnother great read, thanks for the chapter Zogarth
Rewdan
2024-12-16 15:58:47 +0000 UTCI think when the first sage made his first transcends that was the start of the multiverse
Harry Fitzsimmons
2024-12-16 15:56:55 +0000 UTCYou're right. Another "P" word that fits the mold
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 15:54:43 +0000 UTCGreat chapter indeed tftc
Ify Achu
2024-12-16 15:54:06 +0000 UTC🦹♂️😈
Azazel
2024-12-16 15:50:59 +0000 UTCNo I am Yu
Polaris
2024-12-16 15:50:21 +0000 UTCYou forgot Progenitor
Samuel Nelson
2024-12-16 15:50:00 +0000 UTCLol all I hear is Zog's malefic laughter echoing in my head as I read this.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-16 15:49:36 +0000 UTC“And I’ve returned to the past at this late hour cause I need T.P.! for my bunghole.”
Azazel
2024-12-16 15:46:15 +0000 UTC“Who am I you say??!” “I. AM. CORN. HOLIO!!”
Azazel
2024-12-16 15:44:58 +0000 UTCI have no idea what is going on and Villy is going to flip!
kingofshibainu
2024-12-16 15:38:35 +0000 UTCThis just reminded of a job interview
Mat
2024-12-16 15:38:22 +0000 UTCWho am I? I am Mi. Who is Yu?
NovaZero
2024-12-16 15:29:07 +0000 UTCI think it's leading to a scenario where the First Sage and Jake work together to create the System by using both of their bloodlines. FS bloodline having to do with memories/records and Jake's having to do with origins and being/reaching the apex, which is essentially the entirety of the system. Also it's a long shot, but I want to put my figurative money on time loop shenanigans making it so that Jake is the actual first God. Because it would make sense with his other titles: primal, primeval, and primordial, all sort of meaning similar things.
Jagswag 4
2024-12-16 15:28:44 +0000 UTCI've been looking forward to this conversation for a while. Exciting stuff!
Blackbriar
2024-12-16 15:28:33 +0000 UTCNice work. Great chapter, excited to learn more. Thanks for your efforts Zogarth!
liquid_helix
2024-12-16 15:17:58 +0000 UTCWill the real “Sim-Sagey” please stand 🆙??
Azazel
2024-12-16 15:17:45 +0000 UTCDo we know if the First Sage is or is not the father/teacher of all the primordials? That his records is the reason all the primordials managed to become gods. I belive that when Jake used the skill all the other popups that where removed where the other primordials paths as they to are linked to the first sage.
Doodlenoodle
2024-12-16 15:16:31 +0000 UTCParty on Garth! Have a wonderful holiday!!! …..as long as you don’t leave us on a major Cliffhanger.
Azazel
2024-12-16 15:15:55 +0000 UTCThen how come he doesn’t know who Jake is?
Mat
2024-12-16 15:13:19 +0000 UTCGreat chapter, love how this is going down! TFTC 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Krispy sock
2024-12-16 15:11:16 +0000 UTCTimey wimmy mumbo jumbo
Areshan
2024-12-16 15:01:56 +0000 UTCSo why did the Sage want Villy to kill him? It could be to just enable Villy to grab the bloodline later. It could be to experience the system taking and storing the bloodline from within. It could be to offload the mental strain of the bloodline onto someone else’s biology- the system does punish powerful bloodlines. It could be to enable to spawning of simulations like this for a long time, as Villy is likely to live a long time. I don’t really know, though I suspect it’s a combination of reasons. As for how he knows about eras? It could be a few things. One is a plain understanding of the System. One is that he knows something about the creation of the system. But I notice that he calls it the “Integration” of the system. I suspect that there entire System resets sometimes. Back to era 1 and a new multiverse. It might even reuse some of the best bloodlines it found! But if it did this, the recipient or Patriarch of the Bloodline of the Immortal Mind would remember the old Multiverse and, perhaps, their own integration. They would remember much, though, giving them a leg up on others. His happiness at it being the 93rd era could then be interpreted as happiness the loop is still going, or that it will end soon, or that it has time to go before ending. Last theory now, I promise. If Jake’s bloodline, being the ideal Hunter bloodline, can kill Bloodlines he has access to (cough cough EH), then perhaps this would allow the First Sage a reprieve? An escape from eternal life and reuse by the System? Alternatively, if the System is based on an incredibly powerful Bloodline or Transcendence, he might want Jake to mess with it.
Spencer Miller
2024-12-16 14:55:05 +0000 UTCTftc
Frost1005
2024-12-16 14:48:55 +0000 UTCNo
Meruem92
2024-12-16 14:45:58 +0000 UTCTheory: The Bloodline of the Immortal Mind is exactly that. It places the consciousness, or at least a consciousness, inside of the bloodline, inside the Truesoul. That is, it places a full consciousness where the system can’t touch it. This allows it to store memories indefinitely. Further, I can imagine this allowing the individual to manipulate their own records, which are inside the Truesoul (to some extent). This could allow for customized levels of system assistance or system-provided knowledge, leading to the Sage’s observed skill. This would lead to there being two Sages- kinda. One is the system’s understanding of the Sage (the records outside the bloodline) and the actual Sage (the awareness and records inside the bloodline). Jake would be talking to the System’s version now, which, like Sim-Jake, has its own version of the bloodline. So this is Sim-Sage. There is also a Sage still inside the Bloodline of the Immortal Mind. From there, through Villy, he was able to have the Challenge Dungeon drop the boots. The boots upgrade tapped into records of the Sage, which, by nature of the bloodline, included booting up Sim Sage, allowing him to influence the upgrade. So the true Sage knows who Jake is through Villy, but the Sim only knows through the Boots and through the times when Path booted up his Simulation. I have theories about what’s up with his plans, but I’ll separate that into a reply on this comment.
Spencer Miller
2024-12-16 14:40:33 +0000 UTCGreat chapter. Living up to the long anticipation so far.
Clint
2024-12-16 14:30:19 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter. So hyped for Sage Time. Also love the little bit of classic social awkwardness, breaking the tension a bit. We might even learn the First Sage’s actual name
TNT
2024-12-16 14:30:05 +0000 UTCI don't think the first sage created the system, I think the first sage took over management of the system and has been the administrator ever since. The system probably started as a magical experiment by a bunch of wizards and it feeds off ambient energy to run and expand. But it was directionless until the first sage got involved.
Sean McClain
2024-12-16 14:29:25 +0000 UTCOooh I'm starting to think I know why the First Sage 'vanished'. I could be wrong though, it's always more exciting when I'm wrong.
Sean
2024-12-16 14:25:59 +0000 UTCBrilliant!! Enjoy your vacation Zog! TFTC
Abhishek
2024-12-16 14:25:55 +0000 UTCI doubt it I just see no connection between jakes bloodline and the first sage
Frederik
2024-12-16 14:20:34 +0000 UTCWell Villy said the FS seemed to know he would become a God. So, maybe Jake really travels back in time to origins in some way telling the FS that Villy made it to Godhood. Easing the old man and allowing him to die in piece knowing his records made immortality. Making a paradox loop or something sending the boots and messages through time to Jake as thanks. Lol huge stretches. But huge Doctor Who fan as well. 😁 so my mind is having fun with this.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-16 14:15:32 +0000 UTC@AetherBoye Technically speaking, if someone had a bloodline that had perfect memory, it would naturally have perfect perception since the brain has to perceive first in order to store information. So the First Sage knowing that Jake didn't belong there wasn't a transcendence skill, it was just part of his bloodline.
Aaditya Ravindran
2024-12-16 14:08:18 +0000 UTCthe first sage being the person who made the system makes alot of sense he is the First sage and some how has linked him self to his old boots thu records witch i think he can he can manipulate some how since records are just the memory of you and all you did the sage wants some one other then villy to remeber him also
Steven Tuttle
2024-12-16 14:02:12 +0000 UTCI’m so happy it’s Monday
kinglemur
2024-12-16 14:01:44 +0000 UTCI've been chomping at this bit for this for so long! And I am not disappointed. Enjoy the holiday Zogarth you've earned it
Nexas Aurelias
2024-12-16 13:59:19 +0000 UTCWho are you? Who, who, who, who?I really wanna know Oh, I really wanna know Come on, tell me, who are you, you, you, ah, you?
ItWasIDIO!!
2024-12-16 13:58:49 +0000 UTCOkay I am pumped the first sage arc is here! I hope that it some how ties in to Villy's family and whatever he has going on to try and bring them back! If not I hope that those questions get answered soon! I have been waiting a long time to find out what is going on with them!
Matthew Parker
2024-12-16 13:58:34 +0000 UTCSolid theory 👌
doctordirt
2024-12-16 13:52:34 +0000 UTCHuh……chapter equals 10/10 Cliff “evilness” equals 11/10…. Like the Viper doing a planetary sacrifice for a planet only containing small adorable fluffy puppies.🤣 Very excited for this!!!!!
Nate Slusher
2024-12-16 13:50:34 +0000 UTCEnjoy your holiday Zogarth <3 as always, thanks for the consistent updates!
Roy
2024-12-16 13:49:42 +0000 UTCInstead of wondering what the sage did. We should be wondering what Jake managed to break
Trugath
2024-12-16 13:47:55 +0000 UTCHe said you can, it's just extremely hard. So hard that it almost never happens because the transcendence must be made while not using a single record of your bloodline.
Davey876
2024-12-16 13:47:55 +0000 UTCOhhhhh. This is a Jake juice thing isn't it. Something he does in the future goes back to it's origin which is the sage.
Trugath
2024-12-16 13:47:12 +0000 UTCHow the turns are tabling, lovely chapter, thanks
SmokeJam
2024-12-16 13:45:56 +0000 UTCThe first sage had at least four transcendence....
Sargon Yami
2024-12-16 13:42:18 +0000 UTCLovely put. I wont dive too deep, but I firmly believe that what you described is only one interpretation of the experience of being a fourth dimensional creature, capable of remembering their whole life and experience it at any time. Some would be happy with it. They too would end their life, or naturally die but most of the time they could have enjoyed themselves. Here is a wild theory: Jake can influence the First Sage because he is the embodiment of the concept of the Primal, Primval, Harbringer of Change, there is a theme of the very first beginning and the change that follow after it. The first Sage is someone who is the origin of memory hence why Jake can affect the first Memory which entangles with his concept. For a moment I also thought that the First Stage is the one who initiated the System. That is why he asks which era it is, as well as being happy it is still functioning. He found the world boring and wanted to know everything about it. So he imagined himself being the system. Villy killed his mortal form and he became only the System. While they are the same person they also are not. The first sage is a person, the system is a system, like the laws of reality.
Elinar Godly
2024-12-16 13:40:21 +0000 UTCIs the First Sage saying that time is a flat circle?
Victory Holcomb
2024-12-16 13:39:07 +0000 UTCA lot of stuff going on here, so some corrections. 1. The First Sage's bloodline is what causes his memory, he does in fact truly remember every moment of his life simultaneously during every moment of his life. That's explicitly what the sage's bloodline does, Villy confirmed it and it affects villy the same way. Villy said that even he has the downside of always remembering at every moment of his immortal life, but since he got the bloodline later he can compartmentalize it so it doesn't affect him as much 2. Having a bloodline doesn't make it IMPOSSIBLE to have a transcendence, just extremely hard. As we know, the first sage is a notorious rule breaker and has both multiple transcendences AND a bloodline Now for your theory, I'll posit one of my own that I think is gaining more and more credence, and a new one now 1. One of the first sage's transcendences is something like "Omniscience". It would explain why he knew Jake was there, even in a simple vision, it would explain how he's so knowledgeable about things he should definitely not know, and it would explain how he could interact with Jake through a vision "How could he have omniscience if he doesn't know who Jake is?" That brings me to #2 2. Jake is partially unknowable, his true essence blocked from observation even by transcendent skills by his bloodline. It would fit with his perception focused build and it explains why the first sage doesn't just immediately know who he is despite seemingly knowing basically everything else even though he shouldn't.
AetherBoye
2024-12-16 13:38:47 +0000 UTCTftc! What a cliffhanger...
Staudi
2024-12-16 13:36:06 +0000 UTCHe said that it’s incredibly difficult, because the records of the transcendence can’t overlap with those of the bloodline (or prior transcendence, I think), and most people with bloodlines have the records of the bloodline saturating pretty much all of their records. Possible, but hard as crap.
Spencer Miller
2024-12-16 13:34:45 +0000 UTCTftc
Beemoss
2024-12-16 13:34:05 +0000 UTCTyftc! Gah cliffhanger! Still can’t wait for tomorrow!
Andromeda Adams
2024-12-16 13:33:40 +0000 UTCTftc!
James Faulkner
2024-12-16 13:32:49 +0000 UTCIf i recall, he said it just made it harder to gain a transcendence if you already had a bloodline.
Robert Phipps Jr (Perren d'Wolff)
2024-12-16 13:30:35 +0000 UTCOooh! This is good! 😁 Thanks for the chapter!
Kt-x
2024-12-16 13:29:45 +0000 UTCAlmost died laughing at that last sentence. “Who are you?” Fucking perfect. Thank you so much for the chapter.
Loststar7
2024-12-16 13:27:58 +0000 UTCSo my money is on the First Sage being possibly part of the creation of the system itself seeing as he seems pleased the the system has lasted 93 eras. My guess is that it was created purely so that Records could better store the knowledge of the universe.
Nathan Johnson
2024-12-16 13:26:05 +0000 UTCBut I thought it was confirmed he had a transcendence? If not perhaps it’s just a deeper part of the bloodline, layers like Jake’s has to his, that Villey simply doesn’t have access to or the system failed, or chose, not to copy over to the version Villey got. He said at one point he was curios so obviously if any version of this is true it had to trigger at some point after that curiosity because that existence could never not already know about well everything.
Kain
2024-12-16 13:24:39 +0000 UTC@ author the commen saying goes like you can't buy time but since you told us you going to have holiday let me say that you are free to do so without anyone quitting his abo so you can treat it as a small Christmas gift compared to all the joy you have given us. -End- first sage seems super nice so far 👌
Was geht sie dass an
2024-12-16 13:21:22 +0000 UTCTFTC! And this is Nice, I want more of this after all the Fighting and stuff.
Shai182
2024-12-16 13:15:39 +0000 UTCZogarth, you could honestly make plenty more chapters and plenty more archs where Jake just sits back and chats with the first sage, I would happily read every last word of it over and over again. The first sage immediately caught my interest the second he was introducing and I always knew he'd be a great character to get fleshed out and have more interactions with
Michael
2024-12-16 13:13:16 +0000 UTCDidn't Villy say you can't have a transcendence if you get a bloodline first? That it doesn't leave room or something. Then when asked, he said he got his bloodline after his transcendence. I could be imagining it of course, but my memory fits what we've seen so far. This was after the sword saint got his transcendence.
Reno
2024-12-16 13:11:40 +0000 UTCYeah after this chapter I got the same idea. Records exists outside the system preview, but unlike transcendence and bloodline, they are somehow.. connected to it ? Or at least the system made a connection to the Records. Oh, I just got a theory. What if the system used the FS as a bridge to connect to the records of the Universe ? And it’s somehow related to his bloodline.
Lizy Flore
2024-12-16 13:11:14 +0000 UTCTYFTC
Mike_L
2024-12-16 13:11:00 +0000 UTCOh man. It’s FINALLY HERE!!! The first sage is already scheming. He wants Jake to know more to solidify the memory in the eyes of the system so the system will also remember. Why? Idk. We get this horrible news about time off for holidays and these cliff hangers!! I can’t take it! Tyftc!
Justin Moen
2024-12-16 13:08:03 +0000 UTCDamn, that's actually a really good theory
NoctisMi
2024-12-16 13:04:51 +0000 UTC“The First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a think.” think -> thing
Justin Moen
2024-12-16 13:04:02 +0000 UTCI’ll throw my guess out the sages bloodline is to have a perfect memory my guess is his transcendence is to “remember” his entire life at every moment of his life and this even applied retroactively. IE his past self “remembers” his future experiences he is fully aware of the totality of his existence at all times…. And then Jake popped up where he wasn’t before changing everything. It’s unclear if he has the ability to change his path or if he’s on one path and it’s set in stone for himself but Jake certainly seems to have the ability to fuck with it. If he is unable to change his own path no wonder he wanted to die the fucking tedium of infinitely walking on a treadmill knowing literally everything that’s going to happen and exactly how you will respond to every situation would be agonizing I imagine it wouldn’t even really feel like living and if that stretched to infinity….. yeah no shit he didn’t want immortality.
Kain
2024-12-16 13:02:51 +0000 UTCTftc! What a great start to the First Sage arc. Been looking forward to this meeting for so long now it seems. Sparking even more curiosity. So good Zog. Also Zog enjoy your Christmas and new years. My addiction will probably make me twitch every morning but I will make do. Enjoy and refresh yourself. Happy authors make great chapters.
Ty Cooper
2024-12-16 13:02:04 +0000 UTCI doubt it’s the case since we are getting proof that the sage has knowledge of the eras and shit but not 100% out of the realm of possibility
Ryan Smart
2024-12-16 12:57:45 +0000 UTCWith how much Jake sucks at remembering stuff, you might be on to something here
Mat
2024-12-16 12:56:34 +0000 UTCThe cost of the skill is losing his memories, and he said he purposely made it that way for when he got the Sage's bloodline. Why would he make that the cost BEFORE the first sage was dead?
Exodus Uno
2024-12-16 12:55:32 +0000 UTCThx for the ch, looking forward to the next one and enjoy your holidays
Martino Zanchi
2024-12-16 12:54:41 +0000 UTCTftc
Paulo Furlaneto
2024-12-16 12:51:52 +0000 UTCFix! "The First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a think." Think-> thing
Spirit Star
2024-12-16 12:50:14 +0000 UTCThank u for the story
C0bra$
2024-12-16 12:49:10 +0000 UTCTFTC! Happy holidays. Sad that there will no chapters.
Sailesh Kumar Kumar
2024-12-16 12:45:57 +0000 UTCThe First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a (thing)think.
Alexander C Hyde
2024-12-16 12:45:09 +0000 UTCWibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey
John Durrett
2024-12-16 12:44:49 +0000 UTCThrowing my guess out there. I think the first sage used both his bloodline and a Transcendence to merge with the concept of records themselves, making him the record keeper of the system
fruit dragon
2024-12-16 12:42:24 +0000 UTCThe First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a think. The First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a thing.<----corrected. TYFTC!
John Durrett
2024-12-16 12:41:59 +0000 UTCWhat if Jake is the First Sage reincarnated 😱
Ryan Smart
2024-12-16 12:40:35 +0000 UTCEnjoy the break
AwesomeMug box
2024-12-16 12:40:27 +0000 UTCI'm just it isn't the 22.😌
Kjell
2024-12-16 12:40:13 +0000 UTCThis, I hope, will provide so much lore and answered questions. Thank you for the chapter. Really looking forward to this week’s chapters.
Cory Sauls
2024-12-16 12:40:05 +0000 UTCI don't think records are something that the sis from the system. How it's written it sounds more like records is something the system uses for it purpose. The Sage himself said "I am the only one who remembers it, with even the system having chosen to forget.”. Maybe they are more like bloodlines as something outside of the systems.
Kjell
2024-12-16 12:39:40 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter zog
AfroMocha
2024-12-16 12:38:42 +0000 UTCVilly showed his transcendence to turn someone into ingredients to absorb their records with Yip of Yore. He also says he killed the First Sage and in doing so the records of the Sage lived on in him. Makes me wonder if that is when he made that skill.
A. B. Edwards
2024-12-16 12:36:37 +0000 UTCSo he's literally alive in the records of the system and Jake's skill gives him access to that plane of existence
Valhazstromoz
2024-12-16 12:34:23 +0000 UTCOh yes! I love this, all of this. Time, space, memory, records, who the hell knows? This meeting with the Sage is going to play such an important part I think in Jake's foundation of understanding of the system/reality/etc as he starts to truly advance into the higher tiers. It is going to be so much fun! tyftc
Darshar Griffonmane
2024-12-16 12:33:57 +0000 UTCThis is the kind of cliff I love on an early morning. I’ll now have something to wonder about throughout the this 12 hour day of drilling
Kyler
2024-12-16 12:33:20 +0000 UTCI have never been more intrigued!
Sherry Melancon
2024-12-16 12:32:52 +0000 UTCNice thank you for the chapter. Enjoy your break.
joel southard
2024-12-16 12:32:05 +0000 UTCTyftc!
Profile Name
2024-12-16 12:29:35 +0000 UTCOh! The sage is a Vorlon or one of their agents. J/K!
StarWolf
2024-12-16 12:29:34 +0000 UTC"who are you" ouch. haha. I was not expecting that at all.
David W. Baijense
2024-12-16 12:28:51 +0000 UTCTftc
Matthias
2024-12-16 12:28:43 +0000 UTCtyftc
Matthew Avery
2024-12-16 12:28:36 +0000 UTCSo basically the First Sage transcended to become an omnipresent archiver, then got curious when Jake started scribbling notes in the margins.
Ritsu
2024-12-16 12:28:07 +0000 UTCThing
755
2024-12-16 12:27:53 +0000 UTCHow do you even know what eras are?” Jake asked back, frowning. The First Sage had died during the first era... before eras were a think. It was like someone asking about the “First World War” while living before the second one took place. It just didn’t make sense.
755
2024-12-16 12:27:49 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
Tilen Praprotnik
2024-12-16 12:27:28 +0000 UTCI'm beginning to get an idea of the Sage. I think we have a true learned man.
Gavin
2024-12-16 12:27:05 +0000 UTCtftc
CamChains
2024-12-16 12:26:38 +0000 UTCOmg I freaking loved that chapter. Amazing.
Lizy Flore
2024-12-16 12:26:17 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
BlackRazaras
2024-12-16 12:23:52 +0000 UTCTftc
Chris Warner
2024-12-16 12:22:02 +0000 UTCEnjoy your break! And records are vinyl.
Naotsugu97
2024-12-16 12:20:10 +0000 UTCTake as much time as you need
fruit dragon
2024-12-16 12:19:36 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
Connor
2024-12-16 12:15:54 +0000 UTCThank you for the chapter. Enjoy the time off! Also: strong ending.
Arieh Sochaczevski
2024-12-16 12:15:53 +0000 UTCEnjoy the break
Atoms88
2024-12-16 12:13:44 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
BumAssBumAss
2024-12-16 12:13:36 +0000 UTC