🖖Star Trek DS9 S01E05 Full Length Reaction
Added 2025-01-19 03:05:52 +0000 UTCS01E05 Babel
Another ep with our DS9 crew and I'm still getting used to the vibe of the show. Luckily this was a classic virus-takes-over-the-ship story so it really felt like Trek to me. I'm excited to get to know these characters more as we go. Make it so! 🖖
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Its a little bit of revision or addition to the canon - usually stories focus on officers (aka, people who attended the Academy), but I think the writers wanted to add a little working class dynamic so started focusing on 'enlisted' crewmembers who didn't attend the Academy but still serve in Starfleet. I'm guessing they either didn't take to the more regimented structure of study and instead trained on the job or maybe signed up later in life. Chief Petty Officer is a bit of an odd rank - technically an Ensign outranks O'Brien, but no Ensign would think to boss him about due to his experience and life of service. We see him often giving orders to people who are his superiors on paper, but as he's posted as the Chief Engineer he's got more pull within the station crew. Its a bit like a Sergeant Major or Master Sergeant - is outranked by any commissioned officer and will salute and address them as sir/ma'am but has more 'soft power' in practical affairs, often being able to 'suggest' things officers should do that are carried out as if they are orders.
Laura Thornley
2025-02-05 23:55:03 +0000 UTCMiles' rank is confusing, for the most part until DS9 there's isn't much of a rank structure for statfleet beyond Navy Officer equivalents, He's called a chief petty officer (can't remember the episode it comes out) which is a navy senior enlisted rank. As best to my recollection, this is the first time I've even heard of an enlisted rank of any kind. Previously the low man was usually an ensign.
Bubba Fett
2025-02-04 03:34:28 +0000 UTCThe theme is hard to get used to at first it does get better
Harmony through Time
2025-01-29 23:27:51 +0000 UTCShowrunners on DS9 were so much more "mature" than TNG. The DS9 retrospective documentary was so interesting.
All your patrons are belong to us.
2025-01-25 09:14:44 +0000 UTCShe’s pretty cool
Anthony Picard
2025-01-25 03:43:20 +0000 UTCI believe you are correct, Jen, in that the DS9 characters feel more well defined after five episodes than after five episodes of TNG. The creative staff was constantly changing in the first two seasons of TNG, but by the time they had gotten to DS9, things were pretty stable. Also, the aim of this era of trek was to explore characters through science fiction, whereas when they started TNG, it was reversed.
Anthony Picard
2025-01-25 03:33:53 +0000 UTCI love TNG, that being said, the DS9 excels at showcasing that people are people no matter what alien race they are more than any other Star Trek property. I think you will like where the show goes.
Just another Red Shirt
2025-01-22 14:43:04 +0000 UTCI feel like some of the show's earliest episodes have very typical Star Trek plots that you may find on the different "ship" series.
Joe Concepts
2025-01-21 16:58:45 +0000 UTCWell, he always remains an idiot in some ways.
Joe Concepts
2025-01-21 16:57:11 +0000 UTCYeah, her reaction vids are entertaining and she’s easy on the eyes
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-21 01:44:16 +0000 UTCYeah, that got retconned lol
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-21 01:41:07 +0000 UTCJen, you hit the nail on the head with the difference between TNG and DS9. In DS9, there are various main and recurring characters who are not members of Starfleet or even Federation citizens. They don't necessarily have the same beliefs and values that are dominant in the Federation (democratic, post-capitalist, secular, etc.). It makes for great storytelling.
Stephen Kronfeld
2025-01-20 21:27:25 +0000 UTC"Rom's an idiot."??? Wait, what...?
Michael Jung
2025-01-20 19:16:43 +0000 UTCYou'll get it. I still get an image of you conducting and singing the TNG theme every time I hear it.
Michael Jung
2025-01-20 19:15:58 +0000 UTCWho doesn't? :)
Michael Jung
2025-01-20 19:14:58 +0000 UTCI went to the Star Trek Experience twice before it closed -- it was great! Quark's was fun. I hope they let people experience the two 4-D rides (maybe through an Occulus program or something).
Michael Jung
2025-01-20 19:13:56 +0000 UTCIf I remember correctly, the word babel originates from the story in the bible: In a city in Mesopotamia, a united human race builds a tower trying to reach Heaven. In order to stop this, realizing the people's power, God makes it so people speak different languages so they can't understand each other. He scatters the people throughout the world, leaving the tower unfinished. This is where the phrase "to babble" or "babel" came from, as well as the language teaching service called Babbel.
Zapp Rowsdower
2025-01-20 18:11:01 +0000 UTCIf I remember correctly, the word babel originates from the story in the bible: In a city in Mesopotamia, a united human race builds a tower trying to reach Heaven. In order to stop this, realizing the people's power, God makes it so people speak different languages so they can't understand each other. He scatters the people throughout the world, leaving the tower unfinished. This is where the phrase "to babble" or "babel" came from, as well as the language teaching service called Babbel.
Zapp Rowsdower
2025-01-20 18:10:13 +0000 UTCI was gonna say, does this count as the first O'Brien Must Suffer episode?
Fr. Brench
2025-01-20 17:59:25 +0000 UTCYeah, she's the love interest for Dangerfield's son and the dick on the swimming team. It's one of my fave, too; I remember seeing it in theaters with my dad...I'm an older dude too.
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-20 11:43:00 +0000 UTCRewatching this episode kinda gave me unpleasant memories of my stroke-induced aphasia. It was temporary, but very unnerving when I tried to talk to my coworkers and all that came out was gibberish. It's very scary to lose control over one's body.
Over50Gamer
2025-01-20 07:35:22 +0000 UTCYes Quark’s. I really regret never visiting The Star Trek Experience before it closed in 2008. I would have liked going to Quark’s and having a Warp Core Breach drink.
ArtemusPrime137
2025-01-20 07:23:34 +0000 UTCAs all good Ferengi should be! 😃 They're not proper Ferengi if they don't have a sense of shrewdness.
Over50Gamer
2025-01-20 07:23:30 +0000 UTCI have to rewatch that! It's one of my fave comedies and I didn't know Terry was in it!
Over50Gamer
2025-01-20 07:21:14 +0000 UTCHave you tried following along on the sheet music? Star Trek Deep Space Nine theme (simplified leadsheet) https://search.app/8zrhWqdVCk8XNtVCA
spacious_recroom
2025-01-20 02:05:07 +0000 UTCYeah like the Tony Stark says to Loki in the Avengers it take a while for this show to get some traction. But when it does it hits the gas
Brett Whittaker
2025-01-20 01:58:47 +0000 UTCShe’s also in the Rodney Dangerfield movie, Back to School.
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-19 23:20:11 +0000 UTCSo much good special episodes ahead. yeah the first two seasons are a bit ... slow. but when it takes off - it goes big :D
sash830
2025-01-19 22:03:57 +0000 UTCDa-Da-Da-Daaaaaaaaa Daaaaaaaaa-Da-Da-Da-Daaaaaaaa Da-Daaaaaa-Da-Da-Da-Daaaaaaaa Daaaaa-Daaaaa-Da-Daaaaaaaaa 🙂
Ryan Fisher
2025-01-19 21:20:56 +0000 UTCbabel as in speech not babel as in bible the theme it takes a while to get used to it
scott osborne
2025-01-19 20:48:01 +0000 UTCQuark's establishment is called Quark's Bar, Grill, Gaming House and Holosuite Arcade. Or just Quark's, if you're into the whole brevity thing.
Lee
2025-01-19 20:16:49 +0000 UTCThe first two seasons are a slow burn, but season one holds one of the show’s best episodes. The reason the shoe improves greatly ny S3 is that TNG writers started writing for DS9
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-19 20:10:09 +0000 UTCTerry Farrell is much, much, much better looking than Katie Holmes.
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-19 19:57:44 +0000 UTCCOFFEE, BLACK, DOUBLE SWEET! IIRC I think we hear O'Brien's coffee order for the first time in TNG's Rascals 😆
Carlos Perez
2025-01-19 16:56:35 +0000 UTCJust like any species. There are good and bad Ferengi. Although the good Ferengi are still devious.
TigerMyth
2025-01-19 16:50:17 +0000 UTCYou will learn everything you need to know about the Ferengi on DS9. I don't think they had any clue what to do with Ferengi on TNG. Especially the first episode with them. I would say the TNG Ferengi were almost a caricature of the Ferengi on DS9. Instead of having a small outline of their beliefs in TNG, they are well thought out and developed in DS9. Ferengi = PROFIT!
TigerMyth
2025-01-19 16:49:02 +0000 UTCIn my humble opinion, both DS9 and Voyager have much better opening seasons than TNG. However, to be fair, TNG developed a pretty good framework for both of those series.
Fanchman
2025-01-19 16:12:37 +0000 UTCAt what point do we get to start pushing for Jen to re-watch Galaxy Quest?
Kristin D
2025-01-19 15:48:38 +0000 UTC? I just don't know how to sing it? Not sure what I've done to make u think I don't like it
Jen M
2025-01-19 15:18:23 +0000 UTCExactly. When it first came out, I didn't care much for it, where is the Trek on a space station so I didn't really give it a chance or watch much of it. Later as the other shows ended and I wanted more I turned my attention back to DS9 and it became my favorite of all the series and still is.
Chris Miller
2025-01-19 15:03:13 +0000 UTCEither Jen has watched too many Star Trek shows that is beyond healthy, or she is a genius. Or both. She keeps guessing the plots correctly as well as how the show could encounter problems in the future. BTW, a lot of Trekkies took some time to get used to DS9 too. It wasn't an easy transition, if I recall correctly.
Nate Gavin
2025-01-19 12:53:03 +0000 UTCTrust me—Quark and the Ferengi, you will learn to appreciate them in time. Of course, in TNG, they were just... shady little gremlins you couldn't trust, but DS9 changes everything. Quark becomes so much more than that—he's clever, layered, and somehow even endearing. And honestly, his dynamic with Odo? Pure gold. They're one of the best duos in all of Star Trek, hands down. Unmatched. I love Quark and Odo. That said, the DS9 crew as a whole is incredible. Each of them brings so much to the table, and you'll see how they evolve in ways that will surprise you. But yeah, no matter how much I love DS9, the TNG crew will always hold the top spot for me, but honestly, I enjoy and love every Star Trek crew in their own way. And, oh man, poor Chief O'Brien. The man cannot catch a break. Lol. 😊
The Star Treker (aka Michael)
2025-01-19 10:48:39 +0000 UTCBe careful with DS9 station maps if you go looking - they may have spoilers.
Martin Nicholls
2025-01-19 10:18:28 +0000 UTCNot a spectacular episode in any way, but completely fine. The funnest parts are the interactions between Quark and Odo, which lamp insist acceptance crossing replacement, mention soap.
Opti_Frog
2025-01-19 09:52:15 +0000 UTCIt may take some time but worth the journey
DMoney
2025-01-19 09:37:33 +0000 UTCIf you don't like the theme, it's okay to say so... lol. 😂
The Uber Geek
2025-01-19 09:32:11 +0000 UTCI love jen
Michael Tuffin
2025-01-19 07:38:37 +0000 UTCO'BRIEN MUST SUFFER.
Jack O
2025-01-19 07:17:37 +0000 UTCAgreed. The season 2 finale especially is a personal favorite of mine for a multitude of reasons.
Julian San
2025-01-19 07:06:03 +0000 UTCA person is not a people.
Joe Blankenship
2025-01-19 06:59:01 +0000 UTCI like Quark. These shows need somebody colorful to break up the stuffed shirts of the Federation.
Joe Blankenship
2025-01-19 06:57:58 +0000 UTCCrayon spill the flower, bring glowing boating. AVAST!
D Jammers
2025-01-19 06:42:38 +0000 UTCThis is awesome rewatching DS9 episodes that I haven't seen in 30 years and don't remember. "O'Brien left the Enterprise to become the Chief Engineer on Deep Space Nine, marking a significant career advancement from his role as transporter chief on the flagship [Enterprise], allowing him to utilize his engineering skills more prominently and take on greater responsibility."
Clay F
2025-01-19 06:41:38 +0000 UTCOne thing you mentioned in your review at the end about Quark. Obviously he is a main character, and one thing that DS9 does is teach you a lot more about the culture of Ferengi's, Bajoran's, and of course Cardassians in more detail than TNG.
jon bolton
2025-01-19 06:06:33 +0000 UTCAbout Odo and Quark, they're what you'd call frienemies. And imo one of the best duos in all of Star Trek, as you'll see over the course of the show. Your uncertainty about the Ferengi is also quite justified, but I'd advise you not to paint them or any other race on the show in broad strokes since as you'll discover, things are more complex on DS9 than they might seem at first. A lot more shades of gray. As G'kar, an incredible character from another classic sci-fi series (Babylon 5, which I highly, highly, HIGHLY recommend you watch) said, "No one here is entirely how they appear."
Slate
2025-01-19 05:57:44 +0000 UTCThe back end of two is where it gets good
Phil Ken Sebben
2025-01-19 05:32:03 +0000 UTCI love this one, one of my favourites of the first season.
jon bolton
2025-01-19 05:27:58 +0000 UTCI think Babel is just an okay episode overall, but I appreciate the TOS/early TNG feel it has. I think my favorite thing about it is that we get a much better look at Quark. We're really starting to see the kind of character he is.
Jeff Seely
2025-01-19 05:21:24 +0000 UTCYeah, aphasia is what Bruce Willis has. So sad. And as for the show, I would agree the show really kicks off starting in season 3. But season 1 & 2 are a hell of a lot less cringe than some of TNG’s TOS-esque season 1 & 2 episodes.
Julian San
2025-01-19 05:04:30 +0000 UTCWhile it may not have really found its footing in this season, its a lot more even than the 1st season of TNG. It really starts to figure itself out at the end of this season but theres plenty of entertainment to be had in the rest of this season!
Nathan Koga
2025-01-19 04:54:08 +0000 UTCOnce ds9 get in it's rhythm it's has bagger after bagger episodes ready looking forward to jen seeing the episodes we all know she will love
john reed
2025-01-19 04:32:46 +0000 UTCMy most favorite kitty, an orange tabby, was named Quark. :D We've had other star trek cats: Spock, Tribble, Saavik, and currently two kittens, Scotty and Kirk.
Kristin D
2025-01-19 04:21:57 +0000 UTCIts not that I'm not interested in TNG its that there are so many eps for me to catch up on its nice to have a show I can follow week to week with DS9. So thanks for posting them separately.
Ashley
2025-01-19 04:11:41 +0000 UTCGreat to see you in uniform 🍻
Manny
2025-01-19 03:25:05 +0000 UTCIt took a while for the show to find its footing. It gets much better.
Tom W.
2025-01-19 03:07:42 +0000 UTC
