XaiJu
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Need your input...

Hey guys. I'm Editing part 3 of Olskroksgatan, recorded and was suppoed to be released last week but my sons birthday ambushed me from absolutely nowhere and I never got around to do it.

Anyway, I want to adress some input from a few of you. In the last few videos I've been timelapsing parts of the videos that I concider is just worthless monotonous grinding, basically showing the same procedure being done over and over again, like camera matching the rooms in pt. 1.  I concider it being a bit waste of time to have them in real time as I had already shown the concept of what I was doing, and you didn't need to see the same procedure 10 more times.

However I've been getting some feedback from a few that I should stop timelapsing parts of the video and just leave it in realtime., and I believe in keeping this Patreon a democracy so I'll throw the question out there and let the majority decide:


Should I stop speeding up monotonous parts of the videos?

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Technically I think just making the entire video is better, and if you want to skip forward, just drag the slider. Unless people are that lazy to drag a slider, then both goals get accomplished essentially. Or you could also add chapter marks in your video, and the user can jump to precise sections if they want.

I dont mind to watch full video with speed up.

Thank you so much for all your input, it is invaluable to know what you prefer so I can make content better suited for what you want to see! New video today!

Time lapse for repetitive modelling and UV parts once initial principle and process has been shown makes sense to me

I have the same thought of @Ronalle Nyarkoh "Timelapses are better for modeling. Lighting and materials, not so much". Except for some special modeling that deserves a greater focus. Thank you JL!

time-lapse is not a problem at all to me .. of course probably the modeling part is the same step than the rest from your videos like with octane ( the 5hours video's one on YouTube ) . But i can suggest to see the time-lapse and then find a part of a video that we find extremely important ( like the shader of something , or the creation of a tree movement if it's an animation , or let's imagine that you created some objects by yourself , if you have time of course it could be relevant to see how you reach your realism by making a high poly model ( a sofa for example from scratch ) ... etc ... that is my opinion , but i do not mind watching timelapse

I asked you before to post the full version so my answer would be definitely : YES :) Please post the full version as it has no extra cost for you because you have already recorded it. Also you give us the choice to skip it or not. And one important thing, to see mistakes :) we can help you! You remember when you drew baseboard extracted from a mesh as a shape ? You said you have to reset xForm and other thing I don't remember now. It is a common problem in 3DS Max and it happens somtimes to shapes when you extrude them they extrude in the wrong direction and reset xForm won't fix the problem.The solution is to draw any new shape and attach the shape that has a problem to it then delete the new shape and you will find it fixed. At last I like to see you working for hours you and Mike Golden, it is a pleasure for me :)

timelapse all the way

Timelapses are better for modeling. Lighting and materials,not so much.

I like time-lapse, so my vote is "no"

I prefer the lack of time-lapses, in your videos - Gives the viewer the option, to study your process some more. When there's time-lapses in your videos, I just end up slowing down the time-lapses anyways.

The Genie who lives in Pee Wee Herman's lube bottle

I am fine with keeping video as is (no fast forward). Maybe you could consider adding rough timestamps in description or something so people know if they would like to skip that particular part. Some people might need to see same task done from different angle until they get it. Repetition is what usually ''clicks'' with the mind.

I find it ok to speed things up if it is a repetitive task, like you did matching the cameras. You did one at normal speed to explained the workflow, no need to see it in real-time ten times more. Plus it would make it difficult to scrub at the right in the video for those who would like to skip those extra repetitive tasks.

I find it redundant and, once you've explained the methodology, don't see why you should keep it in realtime...That being said, I understand what Pedro's saying about being a complete rookie, but maybe it's been explained so crystal clear that all that a rookie should do is just rewind and review the process...Maybe adding "hints" or "marks" in the video to make it easier to access to specific parts should be the solution for everyone as it doesn't affect to whatever you decide, as anyone can skip the parts that are already explained or, in case you keep going on with timelapsing, those new to the software can review this topics faster...

If it will only mean that the videos are longer I don't mind. If like some say you will need to break the tutorials in more videos to account for the extra time, then time lapse as you need. Btw I don't mind long videos I can fast forward if I don't need that part.

Well, I have nothing against timelapsing it, but I do remember to be a rookie and wanted to see step by step... so maybe don't timelapse it, and let us decide if we pull it forward or not... Unless it gives you "spacewise" in the disk or cloud problems...

Thanks for asking! I was also confused about your editing work on the last videos. But seriously, I didn't say it because I thought my little voice wouldn't reach you. I find it remarkable that you want to go into it. For me, the most important thing is the way to your results. This also includes the errors. Especially if it's the same 10 times. Personally, I think it's good to see your work steps and how you find your way around there. For me personally, the learning factor drops enormously if you continue to edit your videos. Please just leave the videos in real time. Finally, the people who want it can skip the parts and you can save yourself this time for editing. Alternatively, if you want to keep editing the videos it would be very nice to keep also the real-time videos available.

Please leave full workflow. In those large sequences I have found a lot of useful techniques. I think many of our questions came from long videos and influenced incoming topics.

I like the time-lapse. Means you can cover more ground each tutorial.

old videos are the best because I decide what I want to skip or Ffwd it. in my opinion that's the best choise: what could be obvious boring and repetitive for you, maybe it isn't for me:)

From the other side: I'd like you to leave the full version in. The reason is that if there are parts that are completely repetitive, people can skip that themselves. You've put chapters into the videos before, and you could do that again. Once something is skipped/put into timelapse, it's hard to view that content IF some(me!) would like to see that too. Also, while you or others might find something "obvious" or "too repetitive", there could be some small tricks, hints or "ah-ha" moments in there for others to learn from. I've been doing perspective matching for years and I still learned new stuff from your first OG3 video.

Alexander Heyerdahl

If you shown it ones than repeating that proces over and over again isn't necessary. So time lapse is fine by me.

I think skipping these parts is fine. No need to see the repeated process 10 times or so. I think your judgement on when to speed up is perfectly fine.

Joep Swagemakers

My vote would go for "no". If something is shown in detail once, all the following parts that basically repeat the same steps should be on a timelapse. You could briefly return to normal playback to add any comment you might feel is necessary if something different shows up in the process though...

timelaps is ok for me :)


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