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February FULL Bonus Episode -- Audio

Well if it isnt the longest bonus episode we've done! This was such a fun time with Lauren (except for that story in the midde.. I'm sorry I did this to us).  Be sure to listen to the TW on that one as it is a heavy but we lighten it up after. 

I hope everyone had a great February and I'd love to hear something you're looking forward to in March. For me, its my birthday on the 4th and I'm going to Disneyland this weekend to celebrate. I also cannot wait to really get this tour rolling and meet more of you in person. 

Hope you enjoyed this month and thank you for being here!! 

Comments

Surely if the husband is vegan and was eating the lasagne the non vegan husband should have realised sooner?

Irene Simpson

So when you use a combine for soy beans you kill a lot of animals worked on a farm and have seen how blood on the combine lol but you’ve worked on a farm right?

Collin

i honestly feel like that story was anti-vegan ragebait

Mary Kate

if only you knew what was in the animals you torture and eat.

Mary Kate

you seem like a child

Mary Kate

that is absolutely not true. not a single person in any professional field related to this issue takes that seriously.

Mary Kate

lol also you say you care about animals but you don’t large scale farms for vegan and vegetarian kills more bugs and small animals than it would to eat meat lol but say your better than everyone morally cause your not at all

Collin

Thanks a lot for sharing

Private Data

Vegan can also be harmful for health if you aren’t getting test done your doing more harm there are stidies

Collin

So the kid who pushed mom down the stairs story has a pretty interesting update that clarifies a lot of the horror. Spoiler alert: IT'S DAD'S FAULT. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/s/g82f4JvtMK

MRSAMinor

This was also my thoughts and also the whole “no harm done” thing, I mean saying that skinny=healthy is harmful and also if my partner did this to me I would have major trust issues. Especially as someone who has a lot of issues around food which tends to make me eat like a toddler, like have so much anxiety around what’s in my food to the point I have panic attacks over eating food I’ve cooked myself and have eaten before 🫠

Shania james

The vegan story broke my heart. I was very upset Morgan and Lauren never even acknowledged the fat shaming. If a husband was feeding his wife meals to try to get her to lose weight bc he said she was “overly fat” and had a high BMI, this would’ve been so different. I was screaming at my car every time “NTA” was spoken during this story. Forget about not disclosing it’s vegan, how about never calling your partner fat? Fat isn’t a health issue unless in extreme cases, and BMI is incredibly outdated. I hope these takes pay attention more in the future. -a huge THT fan

Keegan

Morgan would love “the man with a million kids” documentary on Netflix 👀

Mo Math

This whole episode was crazy.

April

I've called kids crotch goblins many times 😂

mikayla henry

I know this is such a late comment. At 16:35 I totally get you, but people get DENIED jobs because they mention enjoying family. I did that, and a job that was telling me the whole time they were so excited for a 2nd interview and that I would be a great asset ended up rejecting me, because I mentioned I am motivated by my family (specifically my kiddos) and if it hadn't been for that I believe I would have had a job offer (maybe not 🤷🏽‍♀️). Just a thought, sometimes it is used as a weapon against people seeking work.

Luz Ruybal

I think it's illegal in some places to ask about kids in an interview. You were obviously asking innocently, but that info could be used to discriminate. For example, it comes down to 2 candidates, 1 is child-free and the other has kids. The one with kids could get passed over bc the boss assumes they will be more distracted, less dedicated to their job, take more time off, be less willing to work overtime, etc.

Monica B

This is my FAVORITE episode so far (from all)

Samantha Garay

Do you know this reminds me of? Smoking and versus non-smoking sections in restaurants. For terrorizing kids like this, there should be a kid section and a no kids section. 🥴

CupKay

For the vegan story, I don’t think the problem is OP feeding their partner vegan food IF it’s all ingredients that he would eat on his own, but the intentions behind it feel deceitful, which is where I think he was wrong

Maddie

Morgannnn I also struggle with the weird toothbrush gagging!! It came out of nowhere and I’m very annoyed. If you find out why it’s happening please let us know! I know nothing about science but I just assumed it’s because of increased tooth sensitivity (I grind my teeth) or my tastebuds changed?

sophie hunter

It's a big deal to sneak something into your partners food with other consent 🙄 even if it’s “just plants” lol

Kaley J

I think tricking someone into eating something doesn't matter what it is is fucked up. Doesn't matter if its about the animals or not I think it's messed up to trick someone into eating something they don't want to eat. No matter the "morals" behind it.

Alana

I call Mt son my crotch goblin or my offspring but in a joking way I don't mean it like his a bad kid or anything it's just a different way of saying my son LOL

Alana

for the kid stabbing mom; i know you SHOULDN’T put kids in a box but as someone who works in children’s mental health, you KNOW. like i have 2 kids i’ve worked with that i remember their names because i know they’ll be on the news one day unless something happens before they turn 18. the feeling you get is eerie, they’re a certain lack of depth in their eyes, it’s truly sketchy

Kaitlynn Gaddis

My mom and grandma snuck vegetables in my diet as a kid because I was pickkkky, I think that why I like vegetables now because they are flavorful

Zoe Zinkel

Lauren 100 percent gets respect from the vegans. You made us happy today 😂

Hope Smith

Agree. I was baffled that Lorin was immediately backing him up. But then again, if you’ve never been fat, you’ll always think like a skinny person. And a LOT of shit tends to fly over skinny people’s heads.

MinicManor

Def agree. My heart hurts for EVERYONE involved, including and ESPECIALLY Jane. Poor girl just lost her entire life. They kept saying “she knows what she’s doing” but that’s not really how it works. Remember they said Jane was confused as to why her mom was now ignoring her?? She literally did not have enough foresight to know this would be the outcome of her actions. Because she’s a child. I absolutely feel awful for the parents and hope that everything turns out okay, but honestly, by sending her away after the incident, I think that caused irreparable damage to Jane.

MinicManor

Yall cmon fat shaming your partner is NEVER okay. That guy was TOTALLY the asshole. Slipped in a meal with the INTENT to make his partner lose weight. What a betrayal.

MinicManor

Ok so I used to gag when brushing my back molars before. But this was all related to heightened anxiety and SSRI adjustments. I would also violently gag out of no where that would lead it to nausea lol. But again this was all SSRI / heightened anxiety due to adjustment periods with my meds 🫣

Krissssss

yes! i was listening like? OP is an AH for being fatphobic. His reasoning for doing it is gross + just don’t feed people things without them knowing?

Radia DeLuna

I kept saying: Orphan too!

Jenae Suite

I’d be scared to discipline my kid after she pushed my down the stairs

Jenae Suite

Morgan, will you release the live show audio for us on Patreon?

Mikayla Curry

Happy birthday!!! Listening to this on 3/4

Kielsey

So excited for the Chris Olson episode! I hope you didn't go easy on him, I think he can take the crazy 😂

Sydney

I feel like I’ve seen this kind of comment a few times (about the song being different) - honestly I haven’t heard anything different so I’m confused as well 😅 @madeline can you link a show where the song intro is different please?

Christy

LOVED YOU GUYS TALKING AT THE END

Laura Soto

Story with Jane broke my heart. Feels like the mom lost two kids. So heartbreaking.

Karsyn Dorsey

If it wasn’t a big deal for him then why didn’t he tell him upfront and straight up? He waited until he finished before telling him and beating around the bush when first serving him shows that it wasn’t so innocent and was a well thought out decision

nanea

IMO, it’s wrong not telling someone what they’re eating, period. Idc what it is, some people have trauma against certain foods (a certain taste that brings back memories/ experiences that aren’t pleasant). You never know what is going to trigger someone. Rule of thumb: if you wouldn’t be okay with it being done to you, then you doing it is just as wrong, doesn’t matter what the situation is. It’s about the principle, I get his heart was in the right place but the execution was so far off from being okay. If the roles were reversed, the other guy would be the asshole, but because it’s just plant based it makes it okay? Some people react badly to plant based foods like soy and plant extracts too. All in all, he was the asshole.

nanea

So if he were to make a steak dinner with mashed potatoes and asparagus he’d eat that but not a vegan dinner? so he’ll eat vegetables unless it’s labeled vegan? i’m confused.

Chantel Young

As being a mom of two, the child pushing the mom down stairs is super scary and if I was the mom I’d never be in the same room with her again. My babies love each other like my first born who’s a girl 2years old, she gets super nervous when my second born baby starts crying he’s 5 months old. He loves looking at my daughter and super excited when she gets close and kisses him. It’s super cute so I can’t even imagine one of them being that jealous or even upset about getting another sibling which me and my husband may try again couple years later maybe if we are in a good place but that story made me nervous but I think don’t my babies would act like that. Now the vegan food story is something similar to what happened to me but i wasn’t upset, more surprised that vegan food could be so good. So I have four other siblings and a lot of cousins lol big family and we all have these two great Aunts who are richer than us and were let’s say fancy and proper. Lol so they told us all to come to dinner one day while they were visiting us and they were making dinner which normally they have like pizza for us but at they dinner they had fried rice and a side of chicken mixed in veggies. Now we are all eating and not liking but in my family rice is super important and this fried rice was like grainy and super short but nonetheless very delicious. Lol my Aunts were all watching us (at this time we were all pretty much in high school) like super science project and when we go to get seconds, they tell us that the fried rice is all veggies and we all looked confused. They said it’s cauliflower rice and of course we all look around at each other but we were like it’s still good, but wow, didn’t know cauliflower taste like that. Funny story

Alexis Dignam

lorin is so right on the lasagna one! she had the perfect take

Emily Jones

Yep! You can’t diagnose something as serious as ASPD without establishing a long term pattern. Especially not after just one instance. It’s unethical to diagnose so young.

fia

i totally agree with this. the last story i had the least amount of thoughts about compared to the others lol

Mary Hallaren

This kid sounds like any big event would make her snap. At least getting the help now lessens the chance of her hurting people in the future. if shes capable of pushing her stepmother down the stairs and killing her little sibling then shes capable of much more heinous acts in the future. this kid is a danger to society

Mary Hallaren

Omg the movie the good son is crazy! Also reminds me of orphan. Haven’t seen it in years and now I want to watch it this weekend lol

NicoleFil

^^^^^yes to all of the above. I’ve been a vegetarian for 7 years and I cook dinner for my meat-eater bf most nights. He’s well aware that if I make one meal for us to eat, it’s vegetarian at the very least. If he doesn’t like it, he can make something else. If he wants meat in it, he can cook it up and put it on top or the side or whatever. It’s food- not poison. I think he feels eating a meal w/o meat is emasculating, maybe that’s how OP’s partner felt after finding out he enjoyed a vegan meal.

Amber Schultz

Consider this, in your mind there is no harm, no foul, but how can this damage trust. Would you do this to your parents? A sibling? A stranger? A child? Does this not violate consent of what is being put in his body? Why is it not okay to you that he doesn't want to eat something you like? Who you be upset if this was do to you? Just somethings to think about.

Nia Violet

100% agree. I didn't know the girls supported not communicating to your partner. OP said she wanted him skinny not healthy and say high BMI which really means nothing. I hate how they looked over all of that. I think if the gender was switched the energy would be different unfortunately. And lack of consent. Everybody ducks including them two.

Nia Violet

Another of thoughts on story 3. The fact they still got pregnant means having a new kid was more important than their daughter's feelings. They should've did the work BEFORE trying to have a baby. My mother asked me at 3 if I wanted to be a big sister and I said no I'll kill it. So she got her tubes tied. Yall will probably write me off as a psychopath, but I'm not and I can't even remember this conversation so she could be lying. But instead of saying "oh she'll feel differently once the baby is here", she didn't have another baby. The daughter obviously had pre existing mental health issues went unoticed and this moment snapped her. Yall will probably feel like I'm victim blaming, but this dynamic is still a parent and a child so the parent still has to be held accountable to an extent to. My heart goes out to the mother who I know has so many conflicting thoughts and feelings. I also feel bad for the child who's whole life has been ruined. Just look how everyone spoke about her. Then the father who is trying to keep it all together.

Nia Violet

I see what you’re saying but it just still feels manipulative to me. Like I said it just feels like a double standard. Because if your partner told you you didn’t want to eat that food and they still snuck it into your food without telling you it still seems like a betrayal in a way. Especially because that op didn’t talk to their partner about their concerns first. I don’t think it really matters what kind of food it was. It was still sneaky.

Hopeynichole

thankyou!!! i have been looking for a comment that said this. he literally said “i told him i want him to get skinny snd BETTER” and called him “very very fat”. as a plus sized girl who used to be thin, my husband saying tjis to me would be devestating

Kristy Lindner

okay so the last one- it just rings of fat phobia. calling his husband fat and all that. i wouldnt mind about the food but being talked about that way by the person who is supposed to love me, it would hurt. there are much kinder ways to put that.

Kristy Lindner

Giving meat to a veggie is not the same as giving vegetables to a meat-eater. Veggie is an EXCLUSIONARY diet EXPLICITLY without meat. Unless OP’s husband is on an explicitly meat only diet, it’s not the same at all.

Alexandra Teese

I see where you’re coming from, and yes, I am being judgy. The thing is though, I have the right to be. I shared an opinion (just as you did) and you took it as an attack. Just because I think something is unsavory doesn’t mean that you have to as well. The opinion or words of one DO NOT reflect that of the whole group so I would say that it is ignorant to take my stance and assume everyone else feels the same way. I don’t, nor have I ever claimed to be a speaker on behalf of the veggie community, I’m just one gal with an opinion. You, seem to be taking it personal though. You can disagree with me, but to make an over-arching claim that I am perpetuating negative stereotypes is unfair. If a meat-eater sees one persons negative opinion and views every veggie person as a pretentious asshole, they are wrong and need to adjust their perspective. This isn’t about you, you don’t need to let it get under your skin.

Alexandra Teese

For the girl who pushed her mom, therapist and psychiatrist can out “sociopath?” In their notes that can be shared with other therapist if asked for, but when you actually diagnose someone, that will always stay on their record. That’s why they don’t diagnose children. Children also cannot be diagnosed with schizophrenia.

Becca Venette

Did the non-vegan husband express he was NOT willing the eat vegan food? Did he state that he was not willing to try her products in the past? “Sneaking” vegetables into food for a person who has not expressly stated these things is not the same as sneaking meat in food to someone who very specifically has that dietary restriction. I agree with Lauren. She could have come at it differently or talked to him / avoided lying but it wasn’t violating his diet.

Laurel Wright

It’s leaving out of Texas (which I’ve never been to) it’s sailing to parts of Mexico (Yucatan Peninsula, Costa Maya, playa del Carmen) and back :) I didn’t get to go last year, so I am looking forward to it, hope something wild is submitted on the form for the Milwaukee night (I’m from the Chicago area but have my dancers show during the Chicago night)!!

Ally Cole

It’s my go-to podcast & you guys are just so fun to listen to! Thankful I can be part of the Patreon fam now ☺️

Inez Yu

I thought that same thing while editing omg

Two Hot Takes

I would move to a state where the laws are different just to give that child up.

Laurel Wright

Hey Morgan, I would love for you to collab with RedditonWiki. I’m on their Patreon as well and they said they would be down for it 100%

Zori Michaels

It should be the same lol now I'm scared I put the wrong song in haha

Two Hot Takes

A cruise?! Ooo where are you sailing? I'm so excited for the live shows too :) The google form is getting wild so it's going to be so fun

Two Hot Takes

For the vegan story, it’s completely different if you were to sneak meat into a vegans food, not just for moral reasons but my friend is vegan by choice, and if she accidentally has meat she gets VIOLENTLY ill because her body is not used to processing meat anymore. So you’d basically give them food poisoning vs sneaking vegan food into that guys diet. Just an fyi!! (Posted before the story of Lauren’s friend lol)

Danielle Younger

He didn’t know it was vegan because OP didn’t eat it ??🤷🏼‍♀️

Rachel Hall

I feel like the vegan story was more about the fact that he outright called his husband very fat and told him to his face that he wants him to get skinny, and less about the food itself.

Kaity Reid

Love that y’all feel safe to be yourselves on here! 💕 @THT

Christy

For the vegan story, I feel like the “Everyone sucks” verdict was reached because of all the crazy stories circulating Reddit about partners doing terrible things to their SO’s food but justifying it by saying it’s “for the health” or crazy stuff like that (examples - the sawdust guy who wanted his gf to lose weight, or the other story of the guy that would add cups of olive oil to his gf’s food so that she would gain weight because she struggled with body image issues). (Those stories are insane but def look them up) Reddit’s general consensus seems to have become that food is such a personal thing that no one should be messing with or manipulating. You have a right to know what’s in Your food, even if it’s something healthier for you like in this story. Partners should never be trying to trick the other person. It’s an immediate breach of TRUST that can be so difficult to repair. Like I imagine the ending of this story (which I haven’t finished yet so they may address this) will be that the partner will never want to eat anything cooked by OP again (potentially) - it all depends on where the conversation goes from there and if the partner can agree to start having some vegan meals IMO (which I think sounds like it would be better for him in this case). Otherwise I think it’s looking at a relationship end.

Christy

If it’s just veggies that’s okay but if someone put lab grown meat into my food I would be pissed!!!!! If it’s okay for people to not want to eat natural meat then why is it not okay for others to not want fake lab meat???

Annabell9632

So I haven’t finished the episode yet, so not going to comment on the first part. However your last sentence is the kind of thing that gives us alternative-food eaters a bad name. There’s literally no reason to be so rude and spiteful and judgmental. I understand you’ve also undergone a lot of difficulties from immature people that sound like terrible bullies that you should not be involved with and I hope are no longer in your life. But I’m sorry, that still doesn’t give you any right to crap on someone else’s lifestyle choices or beliefs. Same reason we shouldn’t be fat shaming people. Yeah we might not agree with their decisions and may even realize that evidence shows they’re making a bad choice for themselves, but that doesn’t directly impact you and they still have a right to make that choice. Your attitude will just continue to perpetuate all those negative stereotypes and could even cause someone else to be bullied now. You can of course have that opinion, but you don’t always need to share it. And especially not in such an aggressive and rude manner on a forum where it wasn’t necessary or asked for. Hope your day gets better though. My personal recommendation is a relaxing bubble bath and a guilty pleasure snack 🫧

Christy

Yeahhhhhh I’m listening to the vegan story and I feel like if you flip it then they would be the a hole. It’s a double standard. You shouldn’t make someone eat something they don’t want to and even if they didn’t ask it’s still sketchy that you would deceive your partner like that. He should have talked to his husband first but he still was being deceptive by doing that and if it was flipped it would have been more negative or a reaction. It’s the same either way. It’s not right. I think op was the a hole.

Hopeynichole

So the vegan story (and this may get addressed later, I just finished the first part of the story but not the discussion yet) - I’m confused. The partner knows OP is vegan right? And would’ve seen OP eating the lasagna? I’m confused how the partner wouldn’t have realized while eating it that the lasagna must be vegan if OP is eating it too…. Like why did that revelation shock them so much if it was a dish OP prepared? 😅

Christy

It’s my birthday on 13th March and we are going to the Lakes for the night (Swifties yes it’s that The Lakes) can’t wait 🥰

Lyndsey Owens

lol oops! wrote this too early in the morning.. i meant ASPD!

Brynn Waloven

Are you meaning ASD or ASPD? I'm pretty sure kids can be diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder as a kid, otherwise I've got a bone to pick with my doctor lol

Rosemary Komes

Lauren!!! I’m currently rewatching Hannah Montana too! 🤣

Kristi

lol wrote this before the story was done haha!! Psych person was spot on!

Jess Miller

The number of times they mispronounced Macaulay Culkin 😂 My fave was definitely “Caulay McCulkin” 😂

Christy

Conduct disorder and ODD as previously mentioned is the place holder for children with these behaviors. ODD usually is seen in multiple environments. Behaviors would be at home & school

Jess Miller

I might be a little late to the new intro music, but Im obsessed. It had me dancing in my car lol!!

MadelineH

for real lol, getting me through this work day. 🙌🏼

Alyssa Turpin

Did I just wake up to three hours of THT content? Is today Christmas?! 😍

Amanda

I’m a vegetarian and my bf is not. He’s not big on mushrooms (and neither am I really) but I do like this certain brand of vegan mushroom jerky. I asked him to try a piece of my jerky w/o saying it was a mushroom, and he put it in his mouth and chewed and kind of enjoyed it, and before he swallowed I told him it was a mushroom- He stopped in his tracked and spit it out of his mouth. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, and there was no harm in him trying a food that was outside of his range. It’s aversion rather than exclusivity. No harm, no foul. I say not the a-hole for the veg. story lol

Amber Schultz

Not me yelling 2009 at my radio on my way to work.

Ana Ulberg

You girls were on the money with thinking kid free Sandy calling other kids "crotch goblins" was rude AF. However one thing - moms reserve the right to call their own kids this when venting to their mom bestie. NEVER to them but sometimes they seem like crotch goblins (or Gremlins). Like they are losing their shit over the temperature of their soup or imitating their friends who have parents that let them watch Tiktok. Skipidee Toliet should not have made it into my home damn it!

Michelle Chrishop

Oppositional Defiance Disorder is the “placeholder” for ASD in children. The symptoms have to persist over a certain amount of time, it’s like 6 months that they need to be in treatment to diagnose as ODD. I am imagining that is why the first stay at the hospital was inconclusive, im sure after all the treatment she is going to be having they will diagnose her as ODD. The reason ASD isn’t diagnosed or put on file for children is it if often misdiagnosed and can ruin their futures having that diagnosis on their files. Another reason they aren’t diagnosed until adulthood is because of the inequities of Black children being misdiagnosed as ASD at a much higher rate than other children. Hopefully this makes a little more sense! When I was in my diagnostic classes I had the same thoughts about needing the ASD diagnosis. The level of care in pediatric mental health is all symptoms based. The focus isn’t as much on the specific diagnosis because as children they are growing and changing so rapidly. (almost licensed therapist here, love the podcast!)

Brynn Waloven

HE LIED ABOUT BEING TIRED, NOT THAT IT HAD MEAT. It is BAFFLING how sensitive meat-eaters are, I’m guessing none of y’all have been made fun of, or had meat thrown at you during lunch. Despite a constant groan at me being vegetarian, I never made it someone else’s problem. No veggie food? No problem! It’s not your fault, I can figure something out. I literally never say I’m vegetarian unless asked because people can be so disrespectful and rude about it. I had people feed me a burger while I was drunk saying it was veggie. Y’all meat-eaters need to stop being so stubborn and ignorant. You won’t die if you don’t eat meat ONE meal. Also, just because I had a shitty day so I’m extra annoyed, eating meat is a selfish, unhealthy, indulgent, and disgusting thing to do in my opinion.

Alexandra Teese

I agree! I am vegetarian (10 years) and my mom is vegan (8 years). Meat is an explicit exclusion from those diets so it is not the same at all the give a vegan meat. OP’s husband (I’m guessing) never explicitly excluded plant-based food from his diet. Also OP cooked the lasagna, and he’s vegan, is he supposed to cook two meals (one with meat and one without) for his crybaby of a husband. If OP is cooking, and his husband thinks the food tastes good, then there is no issue. People who eat meat can be so sensitive when it comes to a plant-based diet, people take many opportunities to tell me that I don’t eat enough protein, or that the animal is already dead. I’ve had to not eat at friends houses because they’re family cooked meat and I’ve never once been offended or complained, OP’s husband can eat a vegan lasagna without having a hissyfit

Alexandra Teese

I’m confused how the vegan story got so much heat from the comments…i think op’s husband just got embarrassed that he was so anti vegan food and loved it without knowing

Ayy Bee

The concerning 9 y/o story is making me feel like Sandy from the first story might’ve been onto something 🫣

Toni Sykes

Pumped for the next episode! As for March, I’m excited to go my first ever cruise :) Also, I can’t wait for your live show in May, me and my best friend are making a whole day of it! 🤩

Ally Cole

AWHHH you got through it so fast!! I'm impressed

Two Hot Takes

I did the same thing a few months ago 😂

Mamabear8654

Yay!! I joined Patreon this month & already listened to all the content 😳 So I’ve been anticipating this episode 😆😆

Inez Yu

i was just at the point of almost watching one of your old podcasts before i got this notification ahhhh !!!

Ayy Bee

IM STOKED

Shelly Montgomery


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