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How did you like the Tinkerforge video?

I am getting more negative feedback than usually and my first reaction was 'well, screw them'. But there are a few of 'them', so they might have a point ... what do you think?

What went wrong and how can I improve? If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them! No need for sweet talk, I can take criticism.

What most complain about:

1. High price -  Yes, but I've shown more expensive stuff before

2. You'll learn more from DIY -  It's not meant to replace electronic design 

3. It's a commercial -  It is, I make those all the time for cool product samples

What I think I really could do better:

1. Show more negatives. It is very expensive stuff and the Flir Leption is not the latest model

2.  Show something that is interesting in addition to the product. I usually do that, but the thermal macro photography idea didn't work out so well.

3. Get on with the OSMU already ...........

How did you like the Tinkerforge video?

Comments

Chill Marco. Vid was fine. Not my thing but I just move on.

Straight talk: I also liked the video not as much as some videos in the past. I missed some nicely done jokes, but i am also more interested in repair or build videos and not so much in product announcements or high level tests. But it didn't hit me that hard to write a negative comment or even chancel patreon. I learned that this cool platform exists and i will surely think about this during the next project design phase, so yeah i am fine with that. So just keep going, fell encourage to try out other even (highly) experimental things.

The video was fine. The products looked cool in a functional sense, but the price is so high that I'm not sure exactly who they are trying to target. Tinkerers who don't want to have to tinker that much and who have lots of spare cash? Do those exist? I wouldn't be surprised if some of the negativity you got was misdirected from people who just didn't like the product.

Joe Venzon

Not all videos will fall in taste with people, this will happen. There is no need to worry until it becomes a trend.

I think it was a good video, I learned something from it. But to be honest with you, it was a bit boring. The reason I think that is because I watch youtube primarily for entertainment, and formula that you've nailed with your videos is about 50% faffing about and 50% doing something useful. In your last video that ratio seemed a bit more of 80% something useful and 20% faff, and I missed the faff. With that being said, it would be completely unfair to say that the video was bad, it's only slightly less entertaining.

I didn't have any issues with it when I watched it, but it definitely came off as more of a promotion compared to your other videos. Usually you make a project and use a sponsored tool to get it done. This one just seemed like a long commercial. I think the biggest part is that you're also known for making DIY projects and I think that the video just made it seem that you bought and stacked some Legos and shot a video about it. I think the cost of the bricks also turned people off. I can't see myself buying them for a hobby project, but if I needed to prototype something for work and I could do it with this product, I would probably use them as a time saving measure. I also had the same reaction with the Pi Pad (or whatever it was called) - I thought it was expensive for what it was and I had no interest in purchasing one so it got a little annoying watching multiple videos where you promoted it. BUT you always used it to accomplish some goal, so it wasn't such a huge deal. Overall, I think if you stick to the 2nd #2 above, you'll be fine. We come for the projects and will deal with the sponsored content (some of it is actually good) so just keep on making cool stuff and we'll be here to watch.

Dillon Nichols

I checked these modules out, when you mentioned them somewhere in the last weeks. So seeing them in action and getting your opinion about them was perfect. Overall I really liked the video and encourage you to follow your 'well, screw them' intuition. Being open to trying new things and thus bringing variety into your content is one of many reasons why I like your channel.

I for one, was glad you made me aware of the modules. It's something to to keep at the back of my mind, when I want fast results without putting the work in. Wouldn't have heard of it, without your video. As long as the majority of the video are about projects and clever solutions, I'm happy. The Tinkerforge video was 50% "look this is a cleaver bit of kit, you might wanna use for XY" and 50% product placement. Which is fine! You can sell the cancer cures for 1$, if it's not known and promoted, no one will buy it and nobody wins. Maybe next time just start the video with "Wait for my next video if you don´'t like product showcases". Maybe next time just start the video with "Wait for my next video about the cure for cancer, if you don´'t like product showcases".

con-f-use

This is a 'problem' that I've heard of some other youtubers as well. As soon as you make one video that does not fit exactly in your usual scheme, people complain. I don't really understand it, but my guess is that its the usual problem of inherent feedback skew. Humans are much more likely to voice complaints about something than voice positives. I even notice it on myself with my kids. after a while you take things for granted, and have to consciously remind yourself to give positive feedback for the little things they do well, or you end up complaining much more although they are actually doing much more right than wrong.

Marco Vujevic

I thought it was fine, just maybe it was a difficult product to do an interesting quick review of. It's got a lot of stuff going on and is very open-ended, so it's hard to really show anything in particular without making the video long and boring. People are always gonna complain about products that are "too easy" just the same as the ubiquitous "but you could do that with a 555 timer" comment, I don't think you should pay too much attention. Elitism is always a problem among hobbyists of any variety, we all know we are guilty of it. Showing expensive stuff every now and then is fine too. You're pretty far off of being The Signal Path when it comes to showing holy-crap-I-can-never-afford-that gear.

Jason Hite

I agree with everyone else. No issue with the video at all. Although we would, not really a representative audience on Patreon. As per Chase's comment just make sure you're always clear the item was sent to you for free. (As you did). I didn't realise that the Flir module wasn't the newest so of you know that at the time of filming be sure to mention it. Still a really good product. Your message of 'you don't have to make everything from scratch to be a maker' is a good message too I feel.

You make great videos! And just remember, youtube comments can be a D*ck sometimes, however that doesn't necessarily mean they're right about what they are commenting on. You keep making your videos and we'll keep on watching them, it's as simple as that!

Fred Fernandez

Nothing bad to say about the video... except that nothing blew up?

Leonid Nemiro

I think it was a cool demo of a cool product. As long as there is a "sent me a cool thing to show you guys" at the beginning, no problems.

I had no issue with it. Even if it'd be a promotional post, I wouldn't mind. It is a relevant and interesting product. I am thankful!

Jonáš Gruska

Oh and I like that tiny little micro relay at 4:20. Maybe you triggered some people again with the clips and/or cartoons. Some people are oversensitive these days. I think they are funny.

Holger P Kleinert

I actually watch it a second time. Got no issues with it, not at all. The only thing I can imagine is that it is a promotional kind of video. And there is a lot of stuff in the package that makes it not so affordable for everyone. This could be frustrating some tinkerers with not much money to spend on things.

Holger P Kleinert

You cannot expect everybody to like every post. You should base it on your interests as those will be the most genuine. Posts showing interesting gadgets have been great so far. You are honest about your views so they are genuine reviews.

John McCormick


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