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House Of The Dragon Episode 1 and 2

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House Of The Dragon Episode 1 and 2

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hey!!! nice to see you again!

Mr. October

Glad to be back with with the Octobers again! I've been on a little hiatus, since I was last here, which was at the end of GoT season 6. I had such a great time watching their reactions! I did skip season 7 and 8 for obvious reasons. I just can't watch those anymore... However, HotD is definitely a return back to form, and I can't wait to see what they think of it. For me, it was like watching peak Game of Thrones again.

McC

the phrase 'every time a targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin' was a line from King Jaehaerys II Targaryen, which was only like 40yrs before Game of Thrones is set and is completely incorrect (there has only been about 9 truly mad targaryens, and not all of them kings)

Vargr

glad you are too jim! hopefully we like it together!

Mr. October

Can't say much, at least not as much as those above, since I've never seen this. (glad to be an HotD virgin with Brony). Just a side note: you've met Ser Harrold's actor a while ago as Dwalin in "The Hobbit" films.

Jim Schmitz

omg we said it was an M? lol we know better now, but not Alison T. lol

Mr. October

"Ruh-meera" and "Allisahnt" is KILLING ME lmao

Crissi

Aye man you better put some respect on my boy daemons name!! lol. Your perception will prob change with some characters. I LOVED the first season of HOD. I saw someone say it’s the brand version of wish?? Yea well they didn’t watch the whole series. The music, the acting, the set designs were all incredible in this first season. I believe it was perfectly set up for season 2. Remember what Queen Aemma said in the first 5 mins of the show “our birthing bed is our battlefield”. Keep that in mind. LFG!! Oh and daemons dragon Caraxes is also called the Blood Wyrm. He’s kind of deformed but he is a BADASS. My fav dragon

Kristy McDowell

They exist in GOT they just weren't mentioned. Hightower a still have Old town and the Valaryons still hold Driftmark and sided with Stannis.

Wesley Burton

chill buddy... Have a cracker ;)

McC

This is far more info than any viewer is expected to know after two episodes. You could just... let them discover all this on their own. I really don't know why so many of y'all insist on doing this shit. I am here PAYING to watch them DISCOVER this world, not to watch you spoonfeed it to them. For example, you are out here naming or explaining characters that haven't even been introduced yet or that were just in the background. The joy of watching reactions is seeing them figure out who matters, who doesn't, etc. I am so beyond sick of y'all ruining shit for everyone.

Julien

One thing that is missed in this show that GOT had an abundance of, is comedy relief. HOTD is as serious as a heart attack. Still good though, a must watch for any GOT fan.

TA Slay

I’ll break it down as much as I can for you but it’s a lot. This is set at the HEIGHT of Targaryen power. This is them in a long time of peace (70 years by episode 2) which is pretty impressive. At the beginning we see Jaehaerys (the Old King) who had 13 children, the eldest Prince Aemon (Rhaenys’ dad) died and everyone expected Rhaenys as his only child to be by default his heir. However instead he named his second eldest son Baelon (Viserys & Daemon’s dad) his heir instead. That’s the first crack between House Velaryon and House Targaryen. When Baelon dies and all of Jaehaerys’ other kids are either sworn elsewhere or have died he has no choice but to go to his grandchildren which again brings up the Rhaenys v Viserys at the beginning. Rhaenys is the only daughter of the eldest son, Viserys is the eldest son of the SECOND son. When Viserys is named heir that’s the second crack between House Velaryon and House Targaryen. Then the whole Laena thing at the end of episode 2 is the third crack but don’t need to break that down. At this point, House Velaryon are the richest house in Westeros. They’re richer than the Lannister’s and they’re closely tied to the crown due to marriage and the fact they’re one of three remaining Valyrian House’s (the other one has not been named yet as per ep 2). House Velaryon and House Hightower do still exist but they were cut from the main show. Margaery and Loras’ mother is Alerie Hightower. Characters to take note of: Viserys (King) Aemma Arryn (Queen + Viserys’ first cousin as her mother is Aemon and Baelon’s sister) Rhaenyra (Viserys and Aemma’s daughter) Daemon (Viserys’ brother) Rhaenys (Viserys, Daemon, and Aemma’s first cousin) Corlys Velaryon (Rhaenys’ husband and Master of Ships) Laena Velaryon (Rhaenys + Corlys’ daughter) Laenor Velaryon (Rhaenys + Corlys’ son) Otto Hightower (Hand of the King and younger brother to the Lord of Oldtown) Alicent Hightower (Otto’s daughter) Harrold Westerling (Lord Commander) Lymon Beesbury (Master of Coin) Lyonel Strong (Master of Laws) Grand Maester Mellos Mysaria (Daemon’s lover) Boremund Baratheon (in books he’s Rhaenys’ uncle but in the show he’s her first cousin- her mother was a Baratheon) Criston Cole (Kingsguard named by Rhaenyra) Dragons & riders (not all have been named yet but their riders have so adding those in too): Balerion (dead) - Viserys Syrax - Rhaenyra Caraxes - Daemon Meleys - Rhaenys Seasmoke - Laenor Vhagar - No rider Dreamfyre- No rider There are many others but they either weren’t name dropped in the first two eps nor their riders so not spoiling that. There’s three distinct dragon breeds: T-rex, Canine, and Horse. This is mostly determined by their head shapes. Daenerys’ for example are ALL T-rex, Syrax is horse, and Caraxes is canine. Caraxes is confirmed to be an anomaly from a birth defect and somehow survived into adulthood. He was designed to have a ridiculous squeaky sounding roar because he has a highly deviated septum (confirmed by show writers). None of the dragons will look the same, they’re all very distinct from one another. The shipping lane thing might solely come across as Corlys being annoyed, but he does make a good point. If you look at a map of where Dragonstone/Driftmark/Kings Landing are, they’re all above the Stepstones. If the Stepstones are seized this means there is NO TRADE coming into the largest ports. That can be food, luxuries, men, and who knows what else. This can very easily lead to a massive economic crash of not just the Lord’s of these areas, but Westeros as a whole. The statue Viserys is carving is a scaled down version of the city of Valyria which was the capital of the Valyrian Freehold. Hardly anything is known of the city itself as when the Doom occurred there were very very few survivors. He’s building it after studying books from either before the Doom detailing the city, or memoirs of some form of those who did survive. The Doom occurs 100 years before Aegon conquers Westeros so it’s been a little over 200 years since then. In this they speak solely High Valyrian (which isn’t what Daenerys/Grey Worm etc speak often in GoT- they mostly speak Astapori Valyrian or Meereenese Valyrian which are branches of High Valyrian).

Ellie Renwick

The master of ships during GoT was originally Stannis, but when Jon Arryn died he went back to Dragonstone. He was putting things together with Jon Arryn about Jaime and Cersei.

Terrence Smith

Also Margery was part Hightower I think her mom was a Hightower

StephL

Thanks for explaining I will do my best to try to notice next time

Mr. October

I love the opening credits! As mentioned it’s the Targaryen family tree (bloodline) starting with Aegon the conqueror and his two sisters. Every family member has a sigil and when they’re dead the sigil floods. Like the GOT one it changes to reflect what person or family the episode focuses on if new people are added the tree is updated with new sigils. :)

StephL

The Hightowers were the lords of Oldtown. Not sure if any lords of Oldtown were ever mentioned in GOT, since the only thing that took place there were Citadel scenes.

Chris

By the way, the kingsguard was formed literally after an almost succesful assassination attempt against Aegon I himself. He would have died had Visenya not saved him (do you remember Arya mentioning Visenya to Tywin? Visenya is basically a hero to all the girl bosses in Westeros). So yes, having competent fighters in the kingsguard is important.

Thabiso Mfana

It’s crazy to think Hightower and Velaryian are such powerful houses in HOTD but none existent in GOT. It doesn’t look good for their future.

Gnarlybudz

Love how you picked up on the concept of second sons but Corlys is not an actual second son. He's the first born son of house Velaryon, which he single handedly made the richest house in the realm (George RR Martin has confirmed that HBO is developing a spinoff on young Corlys specifically). And as a side note, before house Velaryon was the richest in the realm, that position was occupied by house Hightower, and so Corlys is a self made man who represents new money, whereas Otto and his family represent old money. Not too long ago they were the biggest game in town. But back to Corlys: when he said "we are the realm's second sons" he meant it metaphorically when it came to him, specifically, but Daemon is a literal second son, as is Otto (in episode 1 Daemon called him "a second son that stands to inherit nothing he doesn't seize for himself" and that was a case of like recognizing like. This story is more driven by second sons that GOT and you're going to meet a lot more of them. As for the Hightowers and Velaryons, they both exist in the GOT timeline but the Velaryons weren't in the show whereas you did see Gerold Hightower in one scene though he wasn't named (season 6, flashback of Ned's fight with Ser Arthur Dayne. The other king'sguard who was killed quickly by Ned in the fight was Gerold Hightower as we know from the books that he was there alongside Ser Arthur Dayne to protect Lyanna).

Thabiso Mfana

Breaking the wheel and every time a targaryen is born the gods flip a coin are the dumbest lines in game of thrones because out of all the targaryen king’s only four where truly insane their might have been some evil king’s but not insane. And breaking the wheel is an impossible task

sam cameron

I’m sure with all of us correcting them or reminding them they’ll get it whether they want to or not 😂😂

Hailey ✨

This will be my 3rd time through and I still haven't got everyone's name down. Hopefully they'll have an easier time lol

ShittyShittyGameGang

tbh i think most people are just bad lol not even in the middle

Christian

opening is the Targaryen blood line. if you notice the last one is the valerian necklace daemon gives the princess in episode one. The other two important one's is the first one, Aegon the conquer and the other one is jaeherys, who had 13 children, So you see the split and stream of running blood. Also its the kings model of old Valeria.

Stannis loves grammar.

Hey man if yall don't want people to give you grief about the title you could always just call it HOTD

ShittyShittyGameGang

Back in those days they had many children. It is true. But many were killed in battle, many died grom certain pandemic. So that's why there are few Targaryens at the moment in the story

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

The realm was in peace even before Viserys. Jaehaerys Targaryen the old king had a very long and prosperous reign for more than a century. He and his Queen did several good things for the realm including building roads, making laws supporting women and children. Jaehaerys was the best king to rule. Viserys is just continuing that peace. But if you take the Targaryen kings after the story of House of the dragon till the mad king, there are several great Targaryen kings in between. Only few were crazy and cruel.

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

Hope you noticed the dagger Viserys showed when he mentioned A Song of Ice and Fire

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

Otto continuously complained about Daemon so King will get rid of him. If Daemon is there then Otto can't work out his plans to control king and make him marry Alicent. He installed Rhaenyra as heir so that Daemon doesn't become the heir.

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

Actually House Hightower you have seen in Game of thrones. The tower with a beacon burning on the top in Old Town next to Citadel. That's the castle of House Hightower. Their family is named after that tower.

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

Opening credits shows the Targaryen blood line going through the model of Valyria Viserys is making. First one shows the conqueror's crown with the scene of doom of Valyria representing Aegon the conqueror. The symbol then fills with blood because he is dead. Those symbols that doesn't fill up with blood indicates that person is alive. Blood then flows to Aegon's sister wives Rhaenys and Visenya. Visenya's line ends with Maegor. Rhaenys' line goes to Aenys and then to Jaehaerys (old king from the beginning of episode 1) and Alysanne. Then blood channels to several of their children. Out of which we see Baelon and Alyssa (parents of Viserys and Daemon) and Aemon Targaryen and Jocelyn Baratheon (parents of Rhaenys the queen who never was). Alyssa and Baelon's line then flows to Viserys and Daemon. Viserys and Aemma Arryn's line flows to Rhaenyra. Her symbol is that locket of valyrian steel necklace that Daemon gifted her in episode 1. Daemon's symbol is his dragon wing helmet. Viserys' symbol is his crown. Aemma Arryn's symbol fills with blood because she died in episode 1. Finally blood runs into the fire pit under Targaryen sigil. Fire and Blood. If you watch the intro of each episode you will see it updating according to new people being born and dead.

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

AND NOW MY WATCH BEGINS....again

Josh Viz

no, they know there are going to be factions. Mr O said, when Daemon was exiled, that this was the start of the two sides. I mean, aside from that, could there really be a series of anything without conflict? Saying there arent many good/bad characters might be a little bit of spoiler but it is also a comment on the first two episodes.

Louie Anderson

Oof typing on a tablet with one finger has me looking illiterate

Josh Viz

Isn't bringing up the factions a bit spoilers? You were talking in chat about "Daemon is awesome" being too much but this arguably worse lol

Josh Viz

As you were talking about whether the hand (Otto Hightower) was good or bad or looking out for the realm.... this series has very few good/bad characters. everyone is kind of somewhere in the middle (with a couple exceptions you will see) and there are a lot of shades of grey. When the two factions are set, some viewers take one side and some viewers take the other side. for me, personally, i side with one faction much more and can't understand why people would take the other side but they do and that makes this series so much fun.

Louie Anderson

Same. I watched the whole season but I feel like I wasn't invested as nearly as I was in GoT S1. However I've been told that S1 is kind of just the set up, so I hope that I will change my mind with the coming season

Melani Hadzic

I gave up after one episode originally but I’m starting over with you and giving it a chance. Let’s be real, though: the spinoff we all wanted and deserved was Arya’s future explorations.

Jared M

My only suggestion about your comment in the beginning when you were talking about taking notes, I would watch the ALT SHIFT X video I posted in discord and it will review names and relationships (for the first episode - no spoilers) and you can review it to try and remember who everyone is. It’ll take a second to remember all the new characters and their names are all so similar.

Hailey ✨

The opening credits shows the sigils of the first monarchs from the Targs in Westeros. Starts with Aegon then his sister wives then flows to different Targs that matter 😅

Flexorcist

just a tidbit for you both. House Velaryon and House hightower both exist in game of thrones. In the books House Velaryon is active but they never showed it in The series. While for house Hightower, That is the House that rules over the oldtown where sam and gilly went to become maester. Also Margaery's Mother is House Hightower. So these houses are still existing in Game of thrones but not very active in the story just like you will see some prominent houses from GoT were not very active in this era.

Jon Doher

Im still in Australia, moved from UK for better weather. And I don't watch MMA. Much prefer rigged Boxing 🤣😭

Hitmon

Loved the reaction! You guys did a great job. it’s a lot to take in at first. The Velaryons (ships family) and the Hightowers were in the books related to GOT. Martin said he didn’t include them in the GOT show because it was too many families already. But At one point in the show, Jamie mentions that King Aerys hand was Gerold Hightower. In the books the Velaryons fought in support of Stannis at the battle of the black water on ships and at the mud gate. They supported Stannis over Joffrey. The prophecy coming from a dream Aegon the conqueror had is a great tie in to GOT. You may have recognized Arya’s dagger the King had. Why Rhaenys was able to speak directly to the King when he met with her and Corlys is because she is a Targaryen. She is the eldest out of the old king’s grandchildren. So she does get more respect from Viserys than other women who aren’t related to him would. Matt Smith who plays Dameon was friends with Emilia Clarke before these shows started. They have hung out a lot together once he got the part. They are close friends in real life. It’s funny to see pictures of them together. They always look like they are having so much fun. This show moves over a 20 year time period in one season. It keeps the story moving but doesn’t rush it like GOT did at the end.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Your perception of these characters will change a lot. There are many time jumps this season and many new characters that change the whole dynamic of the show. We’re just setting the stage right now. And there was a moment in episode 1 Tony thought he noticed something and didn’t say nothing lol but he did see it right.

Christian

Thanks for watching Amanda!

Mr. October

About to dig into this one - I am so excited for you both to see this new GoT series, especially as parents. Love you both - thanks for making my day!

Amanda Sargent

the source book for this show is called fire and blood, figured thats why their is blood in the intro

Max Wiidanen

And my boy Alexander volkanovski ! 👊

Mr. October

The intro is a Targeryen family tree. Not terribly interesting - certainly nothing like the map of GOT. I'm with Mrs October in that I wish they hadn't used GOT's theme. But I guess the theme is so iconic that they felt the need to keep it. But without the map it's just weird. I agree that they should have created a variation of it instead. Oh well.

Julien

Mr. October's take on the dragon eggs is pretty spot on. Traditionally the Targaryens place dragon eggs in the cradle of Targaryen prince's and princesses, in the hope that this will help bond the royal babe's to dragons. But sometimes the eggs never hatch and sometimes the baby dies. At that point they are kept until they can be passed to a different baby. The eggs are too valuable for them to ever intentionally destroy the eggs. Daemon would typically be granted an egg to place in the cradle of his babe, but the problem was he stole one without permission to allegedly place into the cradle of a bastard from a whore. This would be seen by the Targaryens as treasonous, as dragons are reserved for royalty. Of course, Daemon was lying about the entire thing to get the attention of his brother, since apparently taking Dragonstone wasn't enough to get his brother to come see him. lol

Random Random

Awesome! What made you move to America? Just curious!

Mr. October

Im Australian, we only know kangaroos, koala bears and spiders :(

Hitmon

Awesome! What made you move and what state?

Mr. October

Viserys is the 5th Targaryen King to rule Westeros up to this point in the story, and so far 4 of the 5 Kings were fairly peaceful during their actual reigns. The Old King Jaehaerys that they showed in the intro of the first episode ruled for 60 years and most of it was peaceful. Most of the stuff we see in Game of Thrones, like the kings road, for example, was built during the reign of these specific Kings.

Random Random

so you know about some good waffles?

Mr. October

Lmao true but that’s what leads to great conversation’s

sam cameron

Right I thought I heard that also, that’s why I said that

Mr. October

I would like to believe that, but the truth is people are going to judge me based on who I like and don’t like people told me on Game of Thrones. It was obvious that I rooted for evil lol

Mr. October

In a show like HOTD their is no good guy or bad guy it’s all subjective no one is truly good no one is truly bad you guys will see

sam cameron

It’s cool to think back on GOT during Little Finger and the Spiders S2 dialogue about the Iron Throne. “There aren’t 1000 blades…..there aren’t even 200!” As can be seen in HOTD there definitely were at least 1000 blades at one point.

Gnarlybudz

Daemon is pretty dope character. Viserys is still the goat tho 🔥 Aemond also on top 🥇😅

Monkey D. Tomy

Whoa hold on. I was giving my opinion of the only one episode I watched, so I have no context but that. I wasn’t pushing off any kind of insecurities. I’m sure they judge for their self when they watch. Why so harsh? You think just cause a couple of patrons don’t like it they’re gonna stop watching it. lol

Annie Bonz

Im liking it the 2nd time around though!

Hitmon

Speak for yourself, Elena. Also, why are you pushing your HOTD insecurities on The Octobers? Let them judge for themselves...smh.

Mr. Reggie

I've seen alot of people react who think Viserys wants an heir so badly he allows them to cut Aemma to get the baby. I don't believe that's true. The Maester gave Viserys the choice to lose one or both because delivering a breech baby is almost impossible naturally. This is a time before educated c-sections and they'd tried to turn the baby unsuccessfully. Babies who are born breech naturally rarely survive without severe complications and the mother almost never does. They avoid them at all costs if possible nowadays. Viserys had to choose....cut her open to get the baby in which she dies and the baby survives.....or leave the baby in and they both die. "Sacrafice one or lose them both." (I only know this because I've been an OB nurse for 25 years) Also, it never says why the baby passes, but I think it's because they didn't know suctioning after c-section is a must. Babies born naturally expell mucus and fluid from their respiratory tract when they go through the birth canal....c-section babies can't so it has to be done for them. It's such a sad choice for anyone to make. Luckily, it's rare these days with modern medicine. Thanks for putting these out so quick! Great reaction as always! Love ya'll!

Jessica Houser

I’m from Belgium!!👋🏽 I live in America now though

Sarah Wevers

BTW, that Throne is much more book accurate.

Ljh

First half of the season I really like but the second half is when it really starts to get interesting, that’s why I’m so excited for season two. The og will always be the best. Just like they are in every other movies and tv shows in general. And while GOT and HOTD are very similar, they’re also very different. It’s its own thing. Kinda hard to compare the two.

It’s Angie

That's ice and fire .

Stannis loves grammar.

I hope you guys caught the end when the dream is past on to reynera .

Stannis loves grammar.

When you said “ he’s head of the police force “ I feel out !!! 😂😂😂

LMarsz

Listening to your initial predictions and character analysis is hilarious. I can't wait to see what you think by the end of this season. I will say that the idea of a "Civil War" is correct but keep watching...

Adrian Rhodes

This series is awesome and will just get better. It feels strange at first watching getting used to the new characters after spending so much time watching all the awesome characters from GOT, but, they will grow on you like the GOT characters. It's awesome you guys will be ready for season 2 with us so we can discuss the episodes together.

Ljh

Finally, some GoT extra credit :)

Jesse Lee

thats so cool, were just in plain ole Georgia haha

Mr. October

Agreed couldnt get past episode 4

Elena de Haan

@Hitmon Me too!

mgamer327 .

To be called Dornish is a compliment, as they are easily the coolest kingdom in Westeros. They are culturally distinct from the rest (moreso than the North is from the rest), were the only kingdom to successfully resist the Targaryen conquests, and only joined the Seven Kingdoms by marriage of their own volition. And I think most would probably agree that Oberyn Martell was the coolest character of GOT - which given the enormous cast of characters, is something! So, embrace the Dornishness! Lol

Julien

Oh no haha. Europe here. The Netherlands 😊

Slow Shadow

I think HoTD is a great series. Not one of my top picks but it's a fun and entertaining show for sure. I'm just excited to watch another journey with The Octobers =)

Reaction Junkie

im silly, i assumed same time zone haha

Mr. October

On the same boat as you Annie

Hitmon

we agree 100 %

Mr. October

I don't know if anything will beat GOT but if this even comes close im happy

Mr. October

No i was about to sleep but when you uploaded i had to watch 😄

Slow Shadow

“We really tried to go into this Matt Murdock Style” is crazy 😂💀

TC24

can you guys help me come up with a nickname got or hotd related towards her?? haha

Mr. October

its really good huh?

Mr. October

you work night shifts?

Mr. October

My heart loves GOT sm and nothing will compare for me but trust me, this is really GOOOD!!

Sarah Wevers

I tried watching this when it first came out because I loved GOT so much. I couldn't get into it. I felt like I was watching the WISH remake version of GOT directed by Gary Busey. I am only gonna try to watch it now because I love you guys so much, I feel like y'all will make it fun for me. So Cheers Gary, let's get it.

Annie Bonz

Let's goooo! Can't believe GoT is already finished (shed a tear for the journey), but bring on HotD! Up next, episodes 3-10 and onwards to season 2!!!

Kale

Lool four eyed raven!! To be honest, I didn't enjoy HOD as much as GOT but will rematch with you guys and hope my mind is changed. 🤞

Hitmon

So happy this just dropped, exactly what I needed.

Reaction Junkie

And here i thought i was ready to go to bed and sleep. Boy was i wrong 😂

Slow Shadow


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