Tifa Lockhart - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Added 2025-02-02 18:38:43 +0000 UTCWhat is the one thing I should know about Tifa Lockhart?
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Damn, you should deliberately start writing books or something
Patri fa cose nei campi
2025-02-05 16:15:08 +0000 UTCI still think Rude most likely just got the drop on Tifa and got a single good hit in and that hit was hard enough to her left side to knock her away and out cause Rude has been established as strong enough to throw her and knock her back despite her blocking as seen in the video you posted which has the fight scene I mentioned and the fact that Rude is established as the physically strongest of the Turks https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Rude: “Rude is the physically strongest of the Turks, preferring to fight with his fists.” So I believe there is a strong possibility that one powerful surprise blow with an added running start to build momentum can knock Tifa a few feet away especially since he comes from a left diagonal angle and not directly behind that is why Tifa is found to the right of the console in the state she is in after the surprise blow when we see her next which makes sense when Rude came from behind on her left side. This is overall my reasoning as to why an off screen fight did not happen and what most likely happened was Tifa did get surprised attacked at 15:43 it by Rude, as it falls in line with sound cues to signify it at that time and with Tifa ending up on the right side of the console. Here is an overview on Rude’s starting point and how far he is from Tifa and the console: https://i.imgur.com/14gAZHO.png , he’s got a good amount of ground to cover to reach her and starts to the left of her from behind. Rude starts running at 15:30, and then we hear at 15:43 a blow of someone getting hit and Tifa yelping in pain most likely the hit that knocked her out which is a classic off screen context clue of something bad just happened which heightens the tension as the audience and Cloud believe something bad just happened to Tifa. In this case the knockout blow. So by adding this sound cue in their goal was to heighten tension but one thing they could've done to further this goal would to add visual snippets of an implied fight with Tifa on the back foot alone against Rude before cutting away or blocking view of the fight. So that would be a reason to have an implied fight as to show it as such as to further heighten the tension of what is happening like they already were but if there was an implied off screen fight and to hide and not show it at all or give good hints it was happening is totally nonsensical in terms of context of the scene and what it wants out of the audience. Here though you can see at the tail end of 15:39 Tifa is still at the console untouched and you can just about see Rude still running toward her on the left both of them seen through the specters here as both are circled in red: https://i.imgur.com/FHmUE98.png and as you can see in the video at https://youtu.be/vc494FD0LsU?si=DHrcl2PvQuTF2u10&t=938 just as Cloud is about to swing his sword twice. Now before we get to the time spent next with Cloud and Barret let’s establish where Rude is at 15:39 in relation to Tifa you can see the middle vertical metal bars of the floor intersect with the diagonal horizontal ones to the left of the middle vertical ones and Rude near where they intersect. One with the flat metal plates not highlighted and the other highlighted. Not highlighted: https://i.imgur.com/FHmUE98.png and highlighted https://i.imgur.com/sM5nRHy.png. So that would place Rude just about here with a red line ending at Tifa at the tail end of 15:39: https://i.imgur.com/KOC3CKB.png . Rude is most of the way there but still has a few feet to go to reach Tifa which would take a few small seconds out of the four to do so before it cuts to brief close ups of Cloud and Barret. Then the next scene starting at the end of 15:39 just when Cloud lifts up his sword completes his first swing he prepared in the last shot at 15:39 in a close up for dramatic effect and tension as he desperately takes two swings as to disperse the spectres then it cuts to Barret very briefly firing at the spectres. Then at 15:43 we hear what is most likely Rudes strike that floors Tifa either from a surprise attack or to mark the end of a fight the latter of which is not likely due to time needed to cover ground within four seconds and also land a strike which is loud enough to hear over all the chaos and make Cloud worry thus most likely powerful enough to knock Tifa to the right of the console as Rude came in from behind on her left side. If the sound cues of a strike landing and a painful yelp wasn’t the blow to establish Tifa being knocked out then why emphasize at all within the chaos around them as well as if this is a sound from the middle of their fight why are there no other sounds of powerful blows from either sides, yelps or grunts of pain from either of them or any other noises of a struggle or fight. This means from 15:39 to 15:43 Rude has on face value four seconds to cover this ground and knock Tifa away from the console most likely just enough time to coincide with the sound of a blow and Tifa yelping in pain when considering the distance, the direction and these actions who most Rude likely took in this at the most 4 second time constraint. https://i.imgur.com/KOC3CKB.png However, I believe there is a good chance that he has one second less because within the time of 15:39 and 15:43 we see the reactions of both Cloud and Barret to the situation and both of their reactions and actions to the situation at hand are actually happening simultaneously just viewed separately and thus not in the way of first Cloud reacts and Barrett stands still for until his swings are done because it makes more sense that what we see is Barret's immediate reaction at the same time Cloud swings his swords. Meaning Rude between 15:39 and 15:43 has only 3 seconds at the least, 4 at the most which is not enough time to close in on Tifa and actually fight fight in a back and forth but it is most likely enough time to close the distance and use running momentum to strike someone from behind them at their left side and knock them away to the right in one movement. The next we see of Rude is at 15:52 as the camera pans down and Tifa at 15:53 already on the floor to the right of the console which makes sense again cause Rude came in from her left side from behind with his surprise attack which because the way it was emphasized and heard within the chaos notifies the audience and Cloud she just got hit hard enough to be audible then silence from both Rude and Tifa, no sounds of a struggle of either yelping in pain from blows, rapid footsteps of dodging block and moving, or the sound of blows being blocked or exchanged to indicate any fight is happening. We don’t catch any visual snippets or sound cue notification of a fight that would of taken place between 15:43 and 15:52 which I believe if Square wanted an implied fight that would be their best time span to show it, as this is also the lengthiest time span afforded to Tifa and Rude in which if a implied off screen fight were to happen it would be here but they would not get the entire 9 seconds to do so if a fight happened and if there was an implied fight I believe Square Enix would have the start of it not be established by just two audio cues alone one right after the other: the sound of a strike and the yelp then silence in that direction. So, Rude is seen next at the console already at 15:52 meaning if there was a fight it was over before 15:52 with him most likely in the middle of putting in the confirmation or waiting for the confirmation process to complete before confirmation via big button press for plate separation to go through and that in itself would again take a few seconds to input and potentially review that its doing what he wants due to it being an important confirmation so the time between the end of the 9 seconds of 15:43 and 15:52 some of those unknown amount of seconds has to go to the plate separation confirmation process, potentially making sure all of what he wants to do is in order or needs to be changed or altered on the console on Rudes part as the console stated as Tifa reached it asked for confirmation. So if Rude didn’t knock her back that way and a fight did take place between 15:43 and 15:52 where it took them to that spot where we see Tifa then the fight must be even shorter due to Rude having to take one to two seconds to get back to the console to take the time to input the confirmation and potentially wait for the confirmation process to complete from where the fight ended where Tifa is seen laying on the ground. The time left over for a fight at this point is unknown but has to be very brief if it happened at all potentially at the most 5 seconds maybe less depending on the time needed for the confirmation process to be complete and all within the 9 seconds if being generous, an unknown amount of seconds to input confirmation and go through the process at the least and if the fight took them both to where Tifa is then two seconds to go from where Tifa was left back to the console at the most. To me the seconds potentially left is not enough time for an actual fight even a brief one ending in a KO between combatants of this caliber as they last about that long just going back and forth in their next fight and if it was anything remotely like a fight then the sound cues at 15:43 most likely marks the start of it and would establish that Tifa is already on the back foot due to Rudes surprise attack and because of it he was able overwhelm her with offense while her guard was down and because of that she could not actually muster herself up to actually fight back from the surprise attack making it more of a surprise attack overall instead of something I would call an actual fight and was able to only knock out Tifa cause of it. We don't hear any further noises indicating a struggle between Rude and Tifa past the strike and yelp or see any signs of this implied off screen fight starting at 15:43 happening despite it being something that would add to the tension of the scene which Square is clearly trying to heighten as much as they can here so if there was a implied fight at all Square would have showed more in snippets and/or more audio cues if it happened. Keep in mind both Reno and Rude just got beaten up pretty badly to the point Reno might of passed out/lost consciousness so they're not in the best shape. I'm someone who believes no matter how bad a character is damaged depending on what they do next and how they fight they can have a reasonable turnaround but for a reasonable turnaround here for Rude in the state he is in it would be a turnaround that would have to be much longer than 9 seconds unless he got a good surprise attack or the surprise attack was all he needed against someone with a dropped guard. Then also as seen in the fight scene you posted of Rude and Tifa fighting there is a good chance she would of put up a better back and forth fight if one were to have happened and she would of lasted longer in a fight than the seconds afforded to them here even when Rude has an initial advantage of a surprise attack.
JankRobo
2025-02-04 14:46:30 +0000 UTCThe scene in which Rude jumps/sneak/attack on Tifa looks like a longer off screen scene, i don't think it was just a quick headkick or idk, to me it looks like there was a brief fight because you can see Tifa laying feet away from where she was supposed to be attacked! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDPBPf_h3Qw this? yeah they were having a good back and forth
Patri fa cose nei campi
2025-02-03 16:55:00 +0000 UTCTo be fair when Rude knocked her out she was busy trying to stop plate separation at the console with her back turned to him while everyone was distracted by spectres flying around after her Barret and Cloud beat him and Reno badly with her expecting Cloud and Barret to keep them subdued as she completed what they came to do which they would have if it wasn't for the spectres flying around which were loud enough for Rude to approach without being heard to a distracted Tifa to get the jump on her. Then there was a later fight where they went back and forth in pure hand to hand where Tifa did get the upper hand and got him in a standing arm bar in which he did have to use one of his stronger moves shockwave to get her off him in which as she leaps off or gets thrown off she instantly rebounds with no damage done to her to delivery a flying kick that he blocks with some effort as seen by his gritted teeth. Then as she rebounds off that she fights alongside Cloud against Reno in which she delivers the final kick and it seems they did it rather easily.
JankRobo
2025-02-03 14:59:26 +0000 UTCI remember watching a kid playing ff7 on a psp when i visited Greece. I didn't know who Tifa was, neither i could understand what that kid was saying, yet it was so funny to see this girl tossing everything around XD
Patri fa cose nei campi
2025-02-03 14:35:47 +0000 UTCWell, i can say that in 2022 she became a senator in the italian parliament, other than that, Tifa is a caring and loving character that can kick ass well. However her sweetness is also her weakness, when her opponent is dizzy, down or accepts defeat she shows mercy, her kind side. Tifa was trained by one of the best(if not the best) martial artist for years, her fighting style resembles a freestyle/open style kickboxer, because she's mainly a striker but her guard is more open to gain more space and agility, her arsenal is vast in contrast to someone like Chun LI who relies only on striking. Tifa is a misunderestood character when it comes to strenght: Her durability and agility scale higher than lots of characters, se can fight off elite soldiers and turks like Reno, Rude and multiple opponents at once.. yet at the same time she is vulnerable and can be bested, Rude in fact was able to knock her out. Tifa is excellent at fighting, but without materia or back up im afraid she can be bested by highly trained opponents.
Patri fa cose nei campi
2025-02-03 14:33:49 +0000 UTCI admit I might be wrong due to missing something more wise somewhere that states as such but the closest I've ever encountered it stating lore wise from going through a lot of lore instead of taking what people people just say at face value that it just somewhere exists but with no source given to me is that she isn't as strong as she may be depicted is this line on the FF7 Wiki: "Tifa's techniques are showcased in her limit breaks. Among the most powerful are Dolphin Blow, an uppercut punch that summons a dolphin to attack with her, and Meteor Strike, where she lifts the enemy (of any size, including a giant mech or one of the planet's colossal Weapon monsters) over her head with a single arm and leaps into the air before throwing them to the floor. However, neither technique appears outside of gameplay, suggesting her true strength is not as supernatural." I personally interpret her "true strength" as her base level every day most of the time non supernatural Chi enhanced strength I mentioned before which would be regular human strength, however she does destroy a giganticFeant of hurtling rubble of steel and stone if she's the first to arrive in the Remake final boss with a single punch, throws Cloud with enough force to break the sound barrier in the Advent Children Movie (she fully admits later no one except Cloud was at full strength in the movie but was still able to throw him that hard), then there is axe kicking a dragon from up high in the head as a finishing blow, both as cutscene and in lore film examples of supernatural strength and there's also this line that follows in the wiki" Tifa also draws strength from her chi, as seen with her Unbridled Strength mechanic in Final Fantasy VII Remake, and can materialize her chi in the form of an orb that damages any foe in contact. " Which I more or less explained in my previous comment that her ability to use Chi can be an explanation for why we see these supernatural feats effects and all which is not unlike like every other Monk class in an RPG which is a core to what differentiates Monks in RPGs from regular humanoid martial artists traditionally because the former have the ability of Chi Manipulation. Here is a more comprehensive explanation of what Chi based abilities one may be depicted in having when they are established as a Chi user within a story or within various forms of media: https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Chi_Manipulation such as Tifa Lockhart which she is actually listed on the page as a video-game character that has the ability of Chi Manipulation. Some of the abilities listed such as https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Chi_Augmentation, https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Chi_Construct, with https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Manifested_Attacks as sub category with this one which would explain one limit break and how it looks specifically and https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Chi_Strength fall in line with what we definitely see from her via limit breaks, and some cut scenes and we can establish she can definitely manipulate Chi with again the line "Tifa also draws strength from her chi, as seen with her Unbridled Strength mechanic in Final Fantasy VII Remake, and can materialize her chi in the form of an orb that damages any foe in contact". So, the limit breaks do have dramatic effect to look cool granted but that doesn’t mean the throws aren’t all actually happening they are cause we can establish Tifa has the ability of Chi Manipulation and one of of those abilities can be enhanced Chi strength and Chi Augmentation as supported by as stated more wise "Tifa also draws strength from her chi, as seen with her Unbridled Strength mechanic in Final Fantasy VII Remake," the dolphin from Dolphin Blow can be explained by a Chi manifested image of a Dolphin when she strikes via using Chi Constructs and Manifested Attacks, the Final Heaven an explosion of Chi power in an eruption of light, you see this all the time in depictions of Chi users in media, the Marvel hero Iron Fist's Chi sometimes appears as a Dragon with his strikes that can level multi story buildings and actually knock back and hurt the Hulk, Secret Level Amazon's video game anthology series DnD episode has a dwarven Monk pull off supernatural feats such as bursts of speed and knocking back a large Bat Monster off a bridge with a physical strike with sparkles of golden light in Final Fantasy 14 Online Monks have an uppercut that has an Eastern Dragon go up with it and a double fisted blow that manifests the head of a tiger that goes forward with the fists that everyone can see, not unlike how everyone can see the effects of a spell being cast and this is due to the ability to harness, manifest outwardly and be strengthened by Chi and this is how Chi can physically manifest when used an example is right there as the line states in the wiki "Tifa also draws strength from her chi, as seen with her Unbridled Strength mechanic in Final Fantasy VII Remake, and can materialize her chi in the form of an orb that damages any foe in contact." It establishes her Chi can physically manifest outside of her body to use offensively in the form of an orb and that her Chi can strengthen further physically which most likely explains the supernatural feats she is able to pull off against foes a normal human would not be able to keep up with or damage so again yes and no. No, as in normally her true physical human strength as a human is not supernaturally strong and that is her true physical strength, but yes as in with her Chi Manipulation abilities she can reach supernatural levels but only for a moment that explains what we see when she uses her limit breaks and the supernatural physical feats it depicts dolphin and all.
JankRobo
2025-02-03 13:48:08 +0000 UTCyou're confused between gameplay and lore. The gameplay shows incredible strength for dramatic effect, the lore on the other hand states that she doesn't have strength that is abnormal for a human. And lore is what matters.
NotaPennyFan
2025-02-03 11:33:51 +0000 UTCThe whole two different endings aspect is probably the most intriguing thing about this project, especially for fans of the game who already know how the fight ends. The chance to see a what if ending and in the graphical quality that you produce Monster. You could say, I came for the movie but I'm staying for the endings ha ha.
shireknight
2025-02-03 09:18:00 +0000 UTCWell its kind of a yes and no when it comes to Tifa's supernatural strength. At the least Tifa’s base level normal strength and fitness would still be bone breaking, brick shattering, maybe even metal plate denting, marathon running levels with her stamina, straighten, speed and endurance being very high but not exactly supernatural it would be more like that of real world martial artist maybe with the potential of it being even more so due to the things they fight pushing her harder than any training one may have in our world would have and her training including that the reality they live in she most likely will have to kill with her bare hands against things much more dangerous than any animals we have whereas in our world just subduing a regular human is most likely to occur and is enough. The supernatural strength has to do with her class Monk, traditionally in RPGs like Final Fantasy series, Diablo, and DND, it's the Monks cultivation and ability to tap into their Chi/Qui/Ki inner energy that can be considered inner life energy or the ability to use in tandem with each other the martial arts concepts of their mind body and spirit and thus traditionally this explains a Monks seemingly supernatural abilities. Tifa's final limit break Final Heaven is a good example of this using in which she uses her mind to focus her Chi into her fist, also focus for a powerful physical strike and maintain the energy there, spirit is the energy being built up within her fist which will explode later, and her body is the vessel that allows for this to happen if not strong enough it would be a sloppy hit, her body might crumple from the strain, the hit might miss or hit with no impact, the flow of Chi might be wrong, she might not be able to hold the energy in then who knows what might happen. Also as the Chi gets stronger so does the base body to accommodate the increase of power within so base at the least she is not as constantly strong as the fan boys you point out say she is, however with focused Chi onto her body it is but I would not be surprised if she could punch through an inch to an inch of a half of a steel plate or at least dent it. So anytime Tifa show cases supernatural strength or feats it's mostly a spike of Chi she focuses through her body which strengthens it to supernatural levels which then allow her to do things like suplex monsters and war machines weighing in the tens to hundred of thousands of tons but only in a short period of time hence the limit break which is most likely representing the build up and cultivation of her Chi during battle till it gets to the levels she wants or can use but if she does this constantly or kept up this level of Chi constantly throughout the day she would end up tiring herself out quickly which is traditionally is depicted with Chi users. Some people question why doesn't Shinra just train an army of monks like this, keep in mind it took years of training for Tifa to reach this level to be able to do this and not everyone is cut out for this training and may fail it. Shinra wants superhuman feats for their men fast, efficiently, and basically creates a low failure assembly line for super humans and would rather not take the time to train up soldiers over years and hash out where they fall short one on one with them to improve them. In the recent games Tifa actually has a move of creating a painful damaging orb of Chi that enemies can get stuck in and take damage over time called "Chi Trap" proving like most Monk classes in other RPGs she is capable of supernatural feats via Chi which most likely include supernatural physical abilities due to inner bursts of Chi energy usage which because of this truly establishes that she uses Chi and most likely capable of such. As for the materia it's not a drug it's a orb of energy of their planet itself in physical crystalized form it can give physical boosts more speed, strength, durability but it boosts what's already there but not to immense levels with a just a single materia for example to be twice as fast as you are now you'd need at least four speed materia and your overall speed would depend on how fast you were before but now enhanced. So a nobody can theoretically beat Tifa if she isn't using materia herself but if its an average nobody with no physical training whatsoever in martial arts or fitness it would take ALOT of materia to the point of looking like a Christmas Tree in my opinion to take on a Monk with Chi enhancing abilities, immense physical and martial arts training on the level of Tifa. So when it comes to a nobody with materia fighting Tifa with no materia its no different then saying in FF7 world a nobody can beat anyone anywhere with a ALOT of materia and I mean ALOT ALOT of Materia equipped.
JankRobo
2025-02-03 06:23:06 +0000 UTCIn her limit breaks in the original game, she performs a suplex and a one handed military press, where she spins them over her head and throws them, as some of her moves. These can even be done on the massive bosses in the game and the animations look hilarious.
Killerkriskg
2025-02-03 03:22:20 +0000 UTCWhat an amazing Comment and welcome aboard! Thanks for such a detailed rundown on the characters! I know Tifa is defined by her commitment to her friends, I think that's a very beautiful quality and I will definitely implement it in this project. In fact, I think there might be 2 Endings...I always imagined a Main Ending, and an Alternate Ending. However, there might be 2 True Endings, that are different and very opposite to each other. The potential with these characters is too great to miss out on. Despite all the polls, and votes, I still haven't decided how this epic experience shall conclude. Both Endings will be tremendously satisfying though.
Monster
2025-02-03 00:28:17 +0000 UTCShe enjoys losing to Scarlet! jokes aside, and unlike what her fanboys claim, she is human so she doesn't have supernatural strength like some other character (cloud for example) even though she has high strength, but that comes from her martial art training. So if a nobody used "materia" (the game's power up drug) they could probably beat her easily if she didn't use it herself.
NotaPennyFan
2025-02-03 00:13:22 +0000 UTCTifa (and Aerith) were intentionally designed by Square (the game developer) to cut against your expectations based upon their appearances. Aerith - the flower girl and healer - in her all pink, modest outfit, is the feisty, playful and even flirty character - despite the mantle of burden she carries. Tifa, despite her sexy outfit and phenomenal body, is more reserved... very compassionate, she cares deeply about her friends. She is warm and doesn't always put herself first. Beyond that, she is - indeed - an extremely gifted fighter/martial artist. Just discovered this pending animation a few minutes ago and joined to support... It looks amazing, I can't wait to see. FFVII is my favorite game of all time... I hope the battle results in some nudity on the ladies and then for Tifa to knock Scarlet's ass out! (Honestly, it shouldn't be much of a fight - Tifa, hand to hand, would always take down Scarlet).
norseros
2025-02-02 23:50:46 +0000 UTC"Incident?" Nah, that was a marvelous feat of gamer ingenuity. They only claim it was an incident to save face, but we know the truth. B)
EternalScarecrow
2025-02-02 20:14:54 +0000 UTCI like that!!
Monster
2025-02-02 19:57:50 +0000 UTCThat she is feisty as hell, you pick on one of her friends, you answer to her.
shireknight
2025-02-02 19:52:44 +0000 UTCThe Italian Senator!! HAHAAHA, That's hilarious. If you got to Tifa's Wikipedia page, there is a paragraph on there about that incident!
Monster
2025-02-02 18:50:55 +0000 UTCPersonally, I don't know much about Tifa. She apparently runs a bar or something? She punches hard, and has little spheres in her that grant her magic powers. I only played FFIV out of the FF series. But hey, I'm looking forward to seeing the Italian Senator duke it out!
EternalScarecrow
2025-02-02 18:41:06 +0000 UTC
