the Vampire Diaries 4x8 Reaction
Added 2022-11-15 20:15:46 +0000 UTCHere is the full uncut reaction to the Vampire Diaries season 4, episode 8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Also, when Lexi came on the scene in Season 1, I really liked her but it's become obvious here that she was partly responsible for keeping the brothers apart over the years. I also think it was ludicrous for her to think Stefan heading off to drive an ambulance in a war zone was a good idea. She of all people knew how the bloodlust affected him.
HeatherB
2023-07-25 12:10:24 +0000 UTCI'm with you Mega. 'Shut it, Caroline!' She is an obnoxious, judgemental bitch this episode. It's none of her business if Elena wants to sleep with the football team. Love how she calls single guy Damon a man slut when she has been with Damon, Matt and Tyler. I loved Elena's response to her about sleeping with Damon as soon as she met him. Stefan is just as bad. Instead of listening to her crap, he should be telling her to mind her own business. Whatever either of them think of Damon, they both know that he would never deliberately use the sire bond to take advantage of Elena.
HeatherB
2023-07-25 11:46:46 +0000 UTCLast but not list...let's enjoy Delena sex without the Stefan and Caroline blabbing, we deserve it after 4 season waiting. No wonder they won an award for their chemitry, it is off the chart and their are both so super gorgious and sexy. And also it is so beautifully shot you can stop it to any frame and they look perfect a work of art. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vys-WMoAd2Q
Patpet
2022-11-15 21:50:47 +0000 UTCCaroline in the bathroom saying “you can say anything about ripper Stefan, but at list he is not a man slut” as if as being a gorgeous single man sleeping around having an healthy active sex life is so much worse than going around killing people brutally ripping them apart. Caroline too, in this episodes lost her mind, the old gossipy, inappropriate, Caroline is in full blast. Not Elena’s friends, Bonnie is, she doesn’t judge Elena. Bonnie and professor Shane. He clearly said to Connor and Damon that she is the key for getting to the ultimate point, when the map is completed. So he is training her to tap in very powerful magic that is disconnected with the usual power of witches, he made her drown power from the 12 council member massacre and now he is planning another one. 12 humans, 12 hybrids, what is his plan here, exactly? The sire bond. We learn that it doesn’t affect feelings, but quite the opposite, someone can only be sire if she has real feelings for the person before she was turned. So we establish that Elena’s feelings for Damon are real. So what is the sire bond? If we remember the episode when Klaus asked Tyler to bite Caroline, he disagree, but he did it anyway because of the sire bond, but he was mortified and called Caroline’s dad to teach him to control it. So the sired, respond to precise commands, but the person is aware that that command is not out of his/her will, so even though you do it, you know that that isn’t you and after you have the will to rebel against that command and reverse the outcome if you want to. Damon would never do anything to arm or to manipulate Elena. So is nobody’s business but Damon and Elena to talk this over and decide together what to do about it. Damon loves her like Stefan never did, very selflessly and contrary to his brother, he wouldn’t want her, unless he is sure 100% that what she feels is right and she has the power to decide. Damon doesn’t want to relieve the Katherine situation where he though she loved him but she didn’t. Also I am with you I love Tyler vey much.
Patpet
2022-11-15 21:42:59 +0000 UTCThis episode is a huge one in terms of making a point on characters motivations, personality and the consequences of overstep boundaries having a ripple effect on other's life. Stefan and Lexi. We saw Lexi for the first time and we immediately liked her and Damon killing her without much of a second thought we consider it unforgivable. But then we saw Damon in the past asking her to take care of his brother, and we saw she did. After that her and Damon never met again until the 1940. So how she knows that Damon has no restrain, never had and Stefan is better off without him? On which base she formed this strong opinion at the point of overstepping in family business and creating even more misunderstanding between the brothers? Stefan’s account of things. We saw at the beginning of the flashbacks Stefan reversing the speech he was going to give to Damon and we saw that he blames Damon for becoming the ripper of Monterey. But we, audience saw what happen, Damon had no idea that Stefan had problems in controlling his blood lust. He stayed away from Stefan because he was mad at him for turn him and condemn him to a “life alone drinking people's blood” reached out to bond over what he just learn from Sage, that you could make the experience of being forced to drink people's blood fun and wanted to share this with Stefan, his much loved brother, he had no idea that it would have that effect of Stefan. Of course Stefan blame Damon for his actions, because Stefan never take responsibility for his actions, he is blissfully not self aware of his oun flaws, because is so much easier to blame his brother, the bad brother, to bad mouthing him to anybody, to Lexi, to Elena (in season one) to keep is own reputation intact and trash his brother that has already a bad reputation, than take responsibility, face his problems and accept the fact that he is no longer the golden boy his father made him believe to be. Stefan and Lexi a perfect couple of self righteous people that think they know best and they don’t. She had no right to interfere so heavily in the brothers life, she is in fact the one that kept them apart. It took her twenty years to get Stefan’s back to normality with her draconian methods and never really succeded. We saw that took Damon very little time to bring Stefan’s back from his humanity switch, because Damon and Stefan no matter what, they love each other. Damon and Stefan are brothers, they should have never being kept apart. That is one of the reason Damon resented Lexi and never liked her...there is more...and I happen to agree with him. Going back to Stefan narrative, we saw countless times, where the writers, had Stefan said something, or writing it on his diary things that are shown with images to the audience, to be in fact the opposite. We saw him lying to Elena in season one, hiding the truth to her in order to seduce her, retaining information about her and sleeping with her before telling her everything he knew. So who is here the one that took advantage of his position with Elena’s vulnerability, naivety, immaturity? And now because Elena finally realise that Stefan is not what she wants, probably never was, but circumstance made her detour her love life in Stefan’s directions, he is worried she is exposed to manipulation because of the sire bong, how hypocritical. We need to confront two scenes, that are a parallel. Season 1, Elena confronting Stefan of his lying about Katherine, and Stefan forced to spill the beans, and because he slept with her without telling her of Katherine, the situation looks really bad, he risked losing her. So to reverse the situation, he sweet talk her making himself looking the hero, by telling her he save her and that he knows she is adopted. Anybody else would be so mad at him, not Elena because she is vulnerable, she is just a traumatised girl that lost her parents, and Stefan’s knows how to push things in his way, by deflecting the conversation telling her that none of this matters because she is the woman he loves. The level of manipulations in that scene is beyond masterful, he has all the control. Now this season. Elena just stubbed Jeremy and learned that Stefan compelled him and he has made some deal with Klaus, and she is mad at him, because they have a history of him keeping things from her, and lying, but this time she doesn’t let him sweet talk her and making talk his way out of things, now she knows him, she is no more the little girl she was before. He lost his control over her, entirely. So back to the present, Damon never ever lied to her, never ever tried to manipulate her to seduce her, he never ever badmouth his brother with her, to have the upper hand of the situation, but quite the contrary, he always tried to patch them up, whenever they had fight. And we, audience, know that Damon isn’t selfish in the negative sense, he proved that over and over again. That is why I love Damon character and why Stefan character in this episode is just about everything I absolutely have contempt for in a person. Haughty, arrogant, self-righteous, insensitive, mean to his brother at the point of using his insecurities to hurt him, to hit him below the belt. This is Stefan at his lower point of likability. Stefan is this episode is despicable. And not only, even when he get told that being sired effect actions not emotions, he just ignores it and keeps acting as if he has some form of privileged claim over Elena that gives him the right to decide what Elena and Damon should do in their relationship. I understand that he is hurt because Elena split up with him, but he is an ex, and his reaction is of a spoilt child, a sore loser, a bad brother, and absolute hypocrite that manipulated and took advantage of Elena’s vulnerability when she was young and now is preaching his brother on doing the right thing and be selflessness. I adore Damon character, for so many reasons, because he reminded of me or my father with his sarcastic sense of humor, used as a band aid to cover his emotions, because also I know the entire story, and he is so relatable. I love Stefan too, so much, but my love for Stefan is a rollecoaster of ups and downs and the downs are really low.
Patpet
2022-11-15 21:41:00 +0000 UTCI'm the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I was wrong when I commented under your "this weeks reactions" that this episode isn't a good one. Because watching it alongside you now was hella entertaining. Maybe that's because your commentary makes everything at least 10 times better or maybe I have just misremembred the episode (it's been a while since I last saw this one. When I re-watch tvd I always skip the Klaus- and/or Elijah- free episodes). Either way, this was fun! And I can't wait for next episode ( I definitely DO remember this one as I've re-watched it only 2 days ago :D and it's a very good one! ) Thank you for this great reaction. That was exactly what I needed tonight, after a hellish work day :) oh btw, even if I am not a big shipper of Delena (I don't ship Stelena either)- I do have to agree with you that their on screen chemistry is off the charts and their sex scenes are just WOW!
MsDanibanani90
2022-11-15 21:38:54 +0000 UTC
