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Noah Caldwell-Gervais
Noah Caldwell-Gervais

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State of the Channel 2020, or, How Much is Too Much?


I haven't done a major update on my channel in several years, and the simple reason is that I've often felt lost and confused about that myself. Every month for almost three years I've said to myself "I ought to tell everyone how it's going, what's next" and then chicken out because I haven't had any decent answers. It's surprisingly easy for this to happen month after month for an extremely long time. The more I let it go on, the more conversations I needed to have but didn't pile up. I wanted to do this as a video update but ultimately there's too much to talk about for me to keep in my head for a live bit. So I'm going to try and have all those conversations now, in rapid succession, to try and paint a picture of why the channel has struggled so visibly and what might be done to remedy the situation. For the most part it all boils down to one thorny question: Am I Making Too Much Money?


It used to be that I really needed everything I made on Patreon. I think that was valid up through about $2500 a month. We're up over $5,000 before taxes now. And no matter what I do, I can't validate my creative output justifying that amount of income for any reason. It's just too much for the kind of work I'm doing at the pace I'm doing it. 

This is not to say I don't work consistently, but instead that I can't quite produce consistent results and I think that's ultimately unfair to patrons. For example, this past 60-day gap in a three year period filled with 60 day gaps-- I banked footage for three of twelve of the Tomb Raider games, I tried fixing a Gears of War retrospective whose script turned out in a way I feel is boring despite major rewrites, but when I realized how long it had been I pivoted then to finishing my Kentucky Route Zero project which I had felt stuck on since February. There are some games I've played in the past that just never panned out into videos, some footage is so old it doesn't pass a quality control standard I've been trying to keep for the 1080p videos. Too often, I have too many open projects at once and fail to manifest them into actual reality in a timely manner.

I'd actually feel okay about all of this if it wasn't for the fact that I'm being paid an amount equivalent to and possibly surpassing what professional video creators make for an end result that is still, ultimately, amateurish and riddled with errors. I've been trying to improve and in a number of ways I think I have: narration quality is up, I've been spending double the time with it and throwing out more takes. I feel like the videos themselves are watchable in terms of footage selection and frequency of cuts, I've been recording more footage and spending more time pulling relevant clips. And I do think my writing has been getting better, I certainly hope it has but I can't say for sure since I'm too close to it. However, I think it's clear my rate of improvement is lagging behind the increased income. 

What's tricky is that just because I'm making more money doesn't make me more competent as a content creator. The rate at which I improve seems fixed to my strengths and flaws to a point where I can't much push it any faster and have it yield results. I have a lot of enthusiasm for what I'm doing, but I end up putting that into the essays more than I do trying to understand audio filtering and working with codecs. I honestly have never cared at all for the technical portion, but I do want people to feel like their time is being respected and I do want them to be, at the very least, 'Watchable', which is to say decent enough that you don't really even think about the technical part when you're viewing it. Some people are hard to please in that department, but I feel like I've done well in meeting a kind of minimum broadcast standard.


When I first began doing YouTube, the whole aesthetic was born out of necessity and a desire to be seen as a peer and not an authority. That's why I've kept the hand-drawn titles, because I think it starts people off with a sense that this is a one-man-band kind of production and to take what I say in a conversational spirit. This is the kind of YouTube I really like doing, I truly enjoy a casual approach because it's a casual platform. I know it's become more like corporate media in the past years and that there are expectations about branding and presentation, but I get a huge amount of creative pleasure from continuing to produce videos like it's 2008. I think people like that about it, too, to have content that feels friendly without being too steeped in SEO branding or contemporary formatting. 


But is it fair at all to continue doing this when I'm making a wage that can now be considered professional? It's more than I ever had before or frankly dreamed of having, but this is also a time of social upheaval and economic collapse so it's a gross feeling to be doing better than ever when, for so many, it's the worst hardship in years. And has my output increased alongside the income? It has not. And I don't know that it ever can at this point. I'm working essentially as fast as I'm able-- if I performed perfectly, I would have one video a month at least.

I don't perform perfectly, however. I make frequent mistakes, go down side project detours, and get so tangled up and twisted that something that ought to take weeks takes months. I am always trying to improve, not make the same mistakes twice, but there are a remarkable number of different mistakes a person can make the first time over.

The most intense attempt at time management I've ever made also led to the worst community interaction I've ever stumbled into. When The Last of Us Part 2 came out, I was ready for it, ready in a way I almost never actually manage by having the first game's footage all tucked away and labeled. In less than two weeks, I played the whole 35 hour thing, wrote over 40 pages about it, and produced them all into a video. I barely slept, I just kept my nose to the grindstone as much as possible, and in doing so didn't reach out to listen to any opinion besides my own even when it came to Lev, the trans character. 

Most of you are likely aware by now how disappointed people were in me for that take, how many still are. It's not a cancel culture thing at all-- one of the things I had valued the most in my viewer feedback is that, previously, I had gotten multiple notes from trans folks saying they felt safe watching my stuff because they knew I wouldn't be an asshole for no reason, and I let down each and every one of those people. It doesn't take much to feel unsure with that sort of thing-- like, I was watching A Mighty Wind for the first time in years and for 99% of it I thought "This is going back in my top 10" until literally the last 30 seconds where it drops an extremely mean spirited trans joke and then cuts to credits. It makes the movie impossible to recommend even though it's possibly my favorite Eugene Levy performance. With what I wrote because I was trying to go so quickly, people felt I talked over and diminished actual trans voices just because I wanted to pop off how I felt about it. I didn't mean it in a mean-spirited way, but the damage is done. I carefully laid the rake down in front of me and didn't just step on it but stomped on it.

I feel positively that I managed to make it a full seven years in the public eye without making a complete ass out of myself, but that counter is now at zero. It's been suggested to me that I host a video exclusively of trans criticism of Lev by trans critics to make up for it, but to be frank I never want to discuss The Last of Us Part 2 again in any capacity, for any reason. Just thinking about the video makes me sick to my stomach, but I've left it up because it still meant something to some people and, again, it isn't meant meanly.

The Last of Us video I did was the final straw for a lot of people, who had been feeling for a long time that I was in a state of decline and that now it was blisteringly obvious. One subscriber wrote "What the fuck happened to you? I think I know what the fuck happened to you. It's the money. You have money now, and I think that's really poisoned who you are, and what I liked about you. You've moved up on the social ladder and it shows eminently to those who are listening for that. I don't think you understand this, so I want to spell it out. You are one of the luckiest people on the planet. You're mentally and physically healthy. You are paid to travel. You have people who will listen to you. I just wish you'd acknowledge that sometimes." A context of this comment is my discussion of my experience with depression that I put into the video-- this commenter felt I was playing up the depression for clout, and that depression is no excuse for sub-optimal output when I'm making this amount of money.

More than anything else, this is why I've been terrified of actually talking my patrons. I don't think it's an excuse either. But it's a contributing factor to my failure to produce at least one video per month. Every video I make has an arc of panic to it, panic it's taking too long, panic it'll be bullshit drivel nonsense, panic I'll do something that invalidates it. Like the God of War retrospective I did, for instance. I was shocked to find that some people (maybe it's just, like, two, but even then) actually enjoyed it because the comment section consensus seemed to be that I played the games so ineptly that my opinion on them was invalid by default. If I can't play the game right, I can't understand the game right, so what I write is by definition wrong. 

Now, there's a lot of people who would say this is a bad faith argument and why am I listening to it-- it's because I can't tell the difference between good and bad faith criticism when I usually just agree with all of  it. When another youtuber edited together a supercut of all the times I took a breath in a video I did to illustrate how lazy and incompetent I am as a video creator, I felt that was probably valid, but the problem is that I am who I am and that includes my deficiencies as well as my theoretical talents. I like making videos this way so I'll probably keep doing it, although I have taken steps since then like I said to at least try and improve. 

I can't stop suffering from depression. I have tried. It's just a fact of me. I do think I get a lot done anyway-- 2020 is already a better year than 2018 or 2019 in terms of output and I still have a good three months to try and hammer things into shape. YouTube is a complicated choice of occupation for someone with depression, however, because inevitably the absolute cruelest and nastiest things you could possibly ever think about yourself are presented to you in the comments section. It also creates a deep and painful paradox for me when it comes to this Patreon account.


The paradox is this: I also receive some of the nicest, kindest, most heartfelt notes a person could possibly receive. Yet the people who make derogatory statements argue frequently that I'm running a con job on those same people who send me the kind messages, these negative voices say that I "only shit out a video when I need money, leeching off patrons" in the meantime. I'm always, always working on a video. They're just difficult to complete and there's no evidence of working on them at all until they're 100% done and uploaded. I absolutely can't stand the idea that I'm taking advantage of my viewers, patrons, and supporters, which makes it impossible for me to write it off as a bad faith argument when people call me a con man. Over the past few years, this has become my overwhelming fear, that the level of financial support I get isn't just excessive for the kind of content I actually make, but that this support is predicated on me lying to the people who are nicest to me with promises of timely, adequately-produced content. 

I'm overwhelmingly grateful for all the support I've ever received. If you feel I've let you down and lost touch, I'm sorry. I don't know what I can do besides keep going and continuing to deliver the content that people are paying for. I do have some ideas about how, possibly, both of us could feel better about this whole deal.


The biggest possible thing is to get on the same page about where I'm at now with the Patreon-- your individual donation is no longer quite so critical to my survival. You could likely halve or drop your donation entirely and I would be fine. Even if everyone halved their donations, I would simply pick up a part time job again and continue to deliver the expected content.

However, after the mess that was my Last of Part 2 video, it occurs to me that it's not a wholly positive thing that so many people can keep me afloat. It also means I can't effectively be fired if I do something that truly is beyond tolerance. I already have an anytime/any reason refund policy for individual patrons, but as a whole-channel option I'd like to introduce a voluntary clause where if the patreon dips below $1,000 a month for reasons of widespread economic hardship or some catastrophic implosion of reputation, I will shut down the account. I will then produce six more videos as a sign of good faith and find a different path. It's only because of people's kindness and tolerance I'm here in the first place. There should be a mechanism to tell me to leave as well if that becomes necessary. 


With that understanding, with your absolute assurance as a patron that you're donating with the knowledge that I'm striving to do right by you but often fall short, I might be able to feel more positively about what I'm doing, to let go of the pervasive sense that all I'm doing is ripping folks off. Sometimes when I talk about this sort of thing people make a sympathy pledge and up the donation-- please do not do this. If you approve of what I'm doing, just keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep doing what I'm doing. But I'm no longer the person I was where I truly need the money to make my dreams come true. I got to have that already. Switching your pledge from my patreon to another, more obscure one could make all the difference in the world to them like it already made that difference for me.


With the money I'm making now, I'm able to plan for future projects better, but it makes some projects harder to justify. Like writing fiction. A few years back, I began work on a fiction project, but since all my time is essentially malleable, any time spent on a fiction project necessarily takes away time from the nonfiction projects. So I ran a twitter poll asking if people thought it was time theft for me to split my attention in such a way. Only 10% said it was theft-- but it was 10% of over a thousand respondents. If over a hundred people thought it was shady of me to try and write a novel, I figured that settled it, and I didn't try to write fiction again for two years. I'm doing it again: I want so badly to try, I feel such a thrill in writing  with a whole different methodology. Except I do feel it's theft in a way. And so do some of you. I need for the people who donate to ONLY do so if they feel okay about me exploring other artistic avenues. I need to be able to follow my nose. The stress of feeling like I'm not *allowed* to write fiction is honestly equally as time consuming as just taking a day out of the week for stories and not just criticism. 


Or take the travel videos, for instance: what haven't I done yet? Well, East Coast Fallouts, and a point-to-point byway travelogue. Both of which are magnitudes more difficult and expensive than any bus trip I've done. With the amount of money I'm making now I can do those sorts of projects, but in the middle of the pandemic and its associative crises it feels kind of ghoulish and gross to be following the same plan I had before that all went down. The travel videos are special to me, and a lot of patrons donate specifically to encourage them-- it seems important to continue to move towards them. As it stands, I'm preparing to spend three solid months on the road with a multi-project loop about a year from now in September 2021. Does this justify the income? Could it? Is it too long to ask people to wait? The whole thing feels fraught with risk, and that was before I invested heavily in the idea.

Part of my long-term plan now is to go back to school, not for the arts but to get an ASE certification and learn how to be a real mechanic. Eventually, I'd like to do car repairs live on twitch but I'm just not skilled enough yet. I need to learn properly. I can't do that either if all of my time is owed to video game videos. There are ways I want to grow as a person, skills I want to learn, paths I want to pursue, that seem contradicted by the obligations of the kind of income I'm making. But then again what could I even use the money for in terms of video game videos? I've invested in a new desktop that should allow me to play brand new releases at 60fps for the first time, that should be complete in October. After that I'm set for another five years. I redistribute some of the money I get by donations to other patreon accounts or nonprofit institutions, but travel videos are the only area where the income I'm getting could find justification. As far as travel videos go, they're a bit of a bargain-- the Fallout Tour and Atomic Pilgrimage videos cost around $4,500 between the two of them. When I think of that money, on the one hand it seems disgustingly large because it never used to be attainable to me. On the other I live in Bend, Oregon where you're likely to stop at any stoplight next to people who have spent $45,000  or more on a campmobile. My excess is not especially excessive compared against the median. 


What it comes down to is that I won't ever feel right about what I'm doing unless you, as a patron, feel one hundred percent comfortable just letting me figure out what comes next in my own way with the understanding that I'll get it to you when it's done. I need to know that the people who donate don't feel resentful or taken advantage of. I need the transaction between the two of us to be as between peers and not a manager/employee relationship. Trying to figure out the ethics of anything from taking a chance on a game I might not finish a video on to taking classes for professional development to taking time for a long lunch with my wife is maddeningly impossible to parse out when you have that kind of relationship with over 800 people. Over 800 sets of expectations, almost all of which are implied or unspoken.

The thing about this is that I'm not trying to do anything differently or less professionally than I've done before, if anything my hope is to land on a footing with my patrons that allows me to feel and behave more professionally. Because as it is I've been too confused and frightened by the ambiguities of the patron/creator dynamic to even type out this message for almost a thousand consecutive days running. I want to do right by everyone, and I find for one of the first times in my adult life that I'd like to do better by me as well. I think that might mean less money changing hands if that's what it takes for everyone to feel less pressure. 

I know these past couple years have been rough and your faith in me hasn't always been consistently rewarded with adequate content. This year I've tried to change that. I've had some successes and some failures. I think it's always going to be that way for me, ups and downs, fits and starts. What I hope to have conveyed is that, even when there's a gap in the content, I'm not just taking your money and pocketing it. You deserve a return. And if you don't feel you've gotten it you deserve a refund. I don't want to have to spend so much time telling you how sorry I am about things. I only really want to say thank you.

Comments

Keep doing what you're doing, and I will keep doing what I'm doing

Erik Amundsen

I find it laughably hilarious how fixated people become on their perceived shortcomings when painfully loud objective evidence of their strengths are hitting them in the face. "I make too much money from these videos for them to be so awful!" If they were truly that awful, why would you be making this much money? Hindsight is great and I'm happy to see you really did improve along several of the metrics you were worried about here. But I'm incredibly confident you'd be in the exact same position success-wise today if you didn't learn a fucking thing about the production side and just kept making compelling as fuck essays.

Stefan Mattox

From an idiot, armchair psychoanalysing, Seems like you've got quite an obligation, inadequacy complex going on there. Maybe some depressive vision goggles. Still emotions have a logic all too themselves. & What bits of your childhood come through, sounds brutal. Good job ending up where you are percieved faults & all. Best of luck with the project o life.

Nic Brown

Personally, I can't say I'm interested in the travel videos, those tend to be the only ones I skip, but I don't mind you doing it, especially if they are important to you emotionally. I don't really have any complaints. I want to mention, I really like your style (re: video/audio), I find it super cozy. I get so annoyed at the people who comment only to whine about your audio qualty. I think it's very "you". I mean, I'm not going to balk if you ever decide to change it, but as far as I'm concerned you can keep this style forever.

Nobody

I just want to weigh in on some of the frankly daft critiques who’ve greatly affected how you see your work and pace, because the text you’ve procured here is deeply rooted in that critiques perspective. Below is all entirely my opinion on this, and I know from all of what you wrote here comes from the heart, so please understand that what I’m putting down here is coming from a deep admirer of your work and not someone who knows you on a personal level. First of all, you do not owe an entire catalogue of frankly little amounts of seemingly disenfranchised trolls your heartfelt and deeply caring apology towards your work. There is literally nothing you can do to these superficial wannabes who see a largely arbitrary number next to your youtube channel and exclaim that you have changed for the worst. I see little to no evidence that you have changed for the worst. You are one of the most gifted writers and orators on this platform by a large mile, and I can say this with confidence as a very heavy essayist consumer myself. This is probably the upteenth time you've heard this, but this little contribution from me to attempt to give that notion some gravitas is all I and the majority of your fans are trying to get across. The few who's para-social relationship is hinged on the idea that your popularity and success as an video essayist is a net-negative genuinely have no ground to stand on. There is no grand conspiracy as to why you have become as successful as you have - it truly shines in your work. Lets take the God of War analysis for a moment which you’ve mentioned, as I knew from watching this a couple times already that you are not good at action games. I’m glad you brought this up because that video in particular is one of the most glaring examples of how metaphorically true your insights are into games worthy of these deep dives. Your focus on the games narrative and less so about the mechanics is exactly what stands out against every other content creator who has touched this subject. You even manage to convincingly weave the narrative focus into the level design which is exactly what the developer intended and then some. Hardly any video essayist I can think of nailed the philosophical elements of the series so well and eloquently. Does this affect the qualitative aspects of your piece as a whole? Absolutely, and nothing about your lack of skill as it pertains to character action platformers really deterred from the validity of the piece. The only thing I will say is that I do vaguely disagree about the difficulty of some of the QTE’s, however, even then you still managed to explain in honest words how unfitting it is to include such mechanics in the ultimate stages of it’s design. You were mostly correct, in other words. As a writer, I think your passion is what should be the focus. If it takes everything you've got, and that everything is large amounts of time then so be it. Your channel growth and your success speak to the validity and the justification of this passions success. The lack of technical know-how with regards to audio, visual, or otherwise can take the furthest seat in the back as far as I’m concerned (and frankly, the lot of us seem to be saying the same). It is actually a very endearing part of your personality that oozes into your reviews that’s raw, intelligible, and deeply personable. This genre of content is becoming very common on the platform - and yet your style hasn't changed over the years. This should tell you have a niche calling in the market. Many, many creators cannot say they've had an artistic expression work so well as consistently as yours has in the era of content creators becoming secondhand audio and visual editors and/or engineers. I firmly stand behind everything I say, and I hope you see what the large amount of admirers of your craft truly think about your pacing, passion, and sincerity that exudes from it. I hope to see you write some fiction someday, and I can't wait to see what's in store for your travel logs. And, most importantly to me (very selfishly I may add), is your insightful critiques and analyses on video games that I know and love. In the end, you are your best friend, and I can see you are of the pensive type as many of us are. You’ve tapped into community like no one else has, and I am not just saying this to blow smoke up your bum. Had you not written such a hard-hitting self-critique as you have here, I would still be as much of a fan as I once was. Yes, I did see this post from you and I was not a patron up until now, but I’m a big fan of your work and it’s been a long time coming for me. You don’t need to worry about that – that is my decision and mine alone. I’m glad we all got to know you better through your work, including this post. I expected nothing less from a passionate person such as yourself. Keep on bussin' my man. You are worth it, and don’t let anyone (including me – go figure) tell you otherwise. Sincerely, A very loving and caring subscriber. P.S. - I'd love for you to try the Devil May Cry series and potentially way your thoughts on it. Maybe an april fools joke or something. The games story over the years is not anything particularly noteworthy, and the main draw to the series is its mechanical depth. Yes other creators have touched upon it with great sincerity, but as I've said previously you have a knack for turning over interesting rocks into these types of games I haven't seen anyone else do. Universally, it clashes quite heavily with any sort of serious critique or analysis of it's mostly porn-level quality of storytelling, but it does hold up in the mechanics department. However, you've managed to write up sincerely amazing takes on what are colloquially regarded as silly fun nothings like GoW (not regarding the most recent outing), Call of Duty, and the Doom franchises. Come to think of it, I'd think you'd be perfect for the job! Just my opinion though. :)

Ikhompyutha

i just wanna say what i like about your style the most if the casual shitty production values. i appreciate the low quality audio and all the time spent taking breaths, as you say it is conversational. please dont up the production values just cuz ur getting more money and feel you need to deliver more professionally

FatMan

Heya bud - I've also just subscribed after reading this post. Regardless of how you 'feel' about the production value of your works, you objectively are laying out a great deal of financial burden to make these videos - whether you intended to do the road trips as personal holidays or not. Carrying a camera on your adventures and always having recording in mind fundamentally changes the experience of travel. Its subtle, and can be enjoyable, but it's very different from holidaying. You're not only experiencing things for yourself, but experiencing on behalf of others, and absorbing relevant context and grounding to convey to others in your VO. Please don't feel any pressure to increase your production schedule, or really do anything your not comfortable with regarding the channel. Consider my donation a retro-active support of the stress and pressure that made even your 2017 videos possible. I can't imagine how difficult it was to push towards your goals for five years, and to see you achieve what you've achieved was more valuable to me than any self-help or inspirational book I've ever read. If you'd like some suggestions on ways to spend your money, other than on charities or similar - might I suggest the bus? You wouldn't have to change it's appearance, but she's an old girl and deserves some love. Take it to a shop, get them to professionally rebuild the diff, wheel bearings and service and spot-treat any rust that needs to be dealt with. Replace the wiper arms, get some good all-terrain tyres and perhaps even look at doing a service-rebuild of the engine. Even if you never use the van again, it's served you well and I think ensuring that it keeps running for the next 20 years seems like a good way to pay it forward. If you're looking for spare parts to make the car more drive-able on the freeways, or just generally give it a little bit of love - I'd suggest looking into the company "Mooneyes". Mooneyes was a speed parts shop established by Dean Moon in Southern California in the 50s? [citation needed]. Since Dean's passing in 1983, the company has been run by Shige Suganuma and Chico Kodama, with their remote shop in Yokohama, Japan serving as a mecca for hot rodders everywhere. According to a documentatry currently being made called 'Craft of Speed' by director Ming Lai: "As Asian/Asian American pioneers in their industry, they battled against racism and xenophobia and ultimately earned their respect. Now, Shige is attempting to grow the company despite declining interest in hot rods, and Chico is handcrafting a new modified street rod to try to break his second land speed record at Bonneville Salt Flats." They're an amazing organisation, as interesting and layered as your stories about the world, whilst also producing some amazing parts. They also specialise in classic VWs, and should have lots of things that would make your old bus just a little bit more special. Anyway, thank you again for your work to date - please don't consider this donation anything other than retroactive support. There's no asterisk or obligation here - just a 'thanks'

Zero Promises

The way I see it, every single person who subscribes to your Patreon can see how much you're already making, and have made the personal judgement that your content is worth that money, delays and all. If you truly don't feel comfortable with the money, then pay it forward. Donate it to charity, or perhaps pay it to some other channel who you feel deserves more recognition and support. My money was still well spent as far as I'm concerned.

tacgnol06

Don't beat yourself up, man. People give you money because they like your videos. Personally what I like about them in part is the lack of artifice. There's no try-hard stuff, no forced running gags, no lame sketches. I completely understand that feeling of like "I need to justify my existence", and a dedication to quality is a good thing, but the simplicity of "Man talks about videogames" is here I think key to the appeal. The technical aspect only needs to be sufficient to this end, and at this point it certainly is. I'm not even sure why some youtubers invest in super-high end production. 4K ultra resolution highly optimized codecs etc... past a the threshold of being legible and not actively distracting/grating, in this medium and for these purposes, it doesn't really matter that much. At least, not so much it should be some kind of psychic burden. As for the representation and other stuff... It's good to be conscientious, and not callous, but don't let people guilt trip you if you. Nobody was ever really hurt by an essay about videogames. People are scared, anxious, hurt and take that out on others who don't mean harm because they can't take it out on those who do. Or sometimes they're just bullies. Sometimes both. It's a hard needle to thread, to empathize without being overwhelmed, to be confident in your worldview without being callous of others, but you seem like a good dude and like someone who beats themselves up to much, which can make it easy to let others beat you up and make you the bad guy, even if you haven't really done anything wrong. You don't speak for anyone but you, you aren't a political or movement representative, you aren't advocating bigotry or acting out of malice or even malignant ignorance. And the people that come at you for not reflecting their precise views on the matter, speak for anyone but themselves either. It's good to listen, but don't take it for granted that your a bad person or a bigot because people got mad online. You have no idea how many other people, people with just as much claim to authority on that identity, or experience, or issue, might be nodding along perfectly ok or agreeing with what you think, who never felt the emotional charge to message you about it either way. Hell even if you're wrong... it's ok to be wrong. It's how we learn. It's something we need tolerance for, not punishment, guilt and shame, whether inflected externally or on ourselves. I dunno. A kind heart is one easily bruised, and I think sometimes people exploit that, in ways both basically well-intentioned as well as malicious. I empathize. I've suffered from depression since adolescence. I beat myself up a lot. It's easy to feel like the bad guy. I guess that's why, as someone who really appreciates your videos, I wanted to drop this missive and say that I think you do good work that speaks for itself, and that doesn't need to be justified or embellished, overproduced or kept to some schedule, or that because you get some decent compensation for it, you need to give up too much of your life too it. Not that it needs such justification, but even still: Having time to breathe, to enjoy yourself, to pursue other fulfilling activities, in the end will also only stave off burn-out and make you a more rounded person who brings more to the table and produces higher quality work. Paradoxically, letting yourself off the hook a bit (I know the fear of letting yourself off too much and slacking) will often lead to better results, even if it shouldn't need that kind of justification. I know this post is a few months old now. It was just the last thing posted and I read it and wanted to offer some words of encouragement, and thanks, for your videos which I find often insightful and help expand my perspective on games as a medium. I was particularly delighted by your Disco Elysium video. I hope 2021 is finding you in good health and good spirits. Enjoy the relative prosperity and security you've received. Whether or not you deserve it is irrelevant. To quote Eastwood's revisionist western, The Unforgiven: "Deserves got nothing to do with it." I'm sorry if this is overlong or misguided. I know you can't banish that voice that is always saying "You don't deserve this, you're not good enough, you're a bad person, you take too much and give too little, you're not (KIND/HARD WORKING/OPEN MINDED/KNOWLEDGEABLE/EDUCATED/RIGHT) enough..." etc... just by reading a post on the internet. Still, I felt some sympathetic compulsion. I hope amounts to more than nothing. If not, at least you have my $13.50 (exchange rate is a bitch), offered in appreciation without asterisk or obligation. Keep up the good work, Noah. Thank you.

Discourse Stu

Noah, buddy, I'm new to your patreon, but Ive been following your channel for years. With this perspective, I think I feel confident that you are being a little hard on yourself. Maybe, like, very hard on yourself. I won't pretend to fully understand what's going through your head, but I feel pretty confident in saying that you are one of the most honest and heartfelt creators on the platform. Frankly, I've always really enjoyed the way your channel feels kinda.... well "unprofessional" isn't a very kind word, especially when you clearly care a lot about your work and how it comes across to others. I guess what I'm saying is, in a world of gloss and flashy intros and obnoxious edits, your content feels much more honest less overproduced. The hand drawn title cards? Love those. The bizarre archaic devices you play the into music on? Great. Upload schedule is a little slow? Well, that's Noah, dude. It's done when it's done. In short, I don't want you to change anything. And if you really feel uncomfortable with the amount of money your patrons send you, I give you full permission to send my donations to The Humane Society, or another charity of your choice. You're a good gu either way, and I'm glad that I get to support you.

Dirt Person

Noah, I just found your channel a couple weeks ago, and I'm thoroughly impressed. You're a real artist, man.

MrBrown

I'm just here for the journey man, I am excited to see where it goes, wherever it goes. I hope that never becomes a burden to you, but if it does, you know, I'm happy to let your journey continue without me, or in whatever way feels right to you - I promise I'll have been better for the experience.

Cauliflower

This post is what made me become patron #992. I love your individual perspective and wide knowledge. Regardless of any missteps in The Last of Us 2 video, you acknowledged and apologized for them immediately and maturely. Here's encouraging you to continue making quality content that is unmistakably you. Also, it really sucks that someone as delightful and talented as you would suffer from periodic depression, and I hope you realize over time that depression lies. Thanks for everything you've made, and thanks for sharing it with the rest of us for free.

Anthony Mills

Read this post - hope you keep making videos and enjoying what you do. The person who wrote that message to you is not worth listening to.

Jake Tracey

Hey Noah You've gathered this amount of donations because people like what you've been doing - please don't stress about not deserving it because you've already earnt it. As many have said, I also see my pledge as a donation. You're not my employee, I just want to see more of what you are doing.

Roberticus1992

Hi Noah, I wanted to open by saying what clinched becoming a patron for me is responding to this post. After discovering your videos, they've been a delight for years, they've reshaped the way I think about and critique games. You're one of few channels I have notifications on for, because your content is your own. I know everything you speak comes from your perspective and context, and as someone who grew up and is still for the most part a strictly console player, it's a fascinating context to consider. You have in a way, guided me through many pc titles I would otherwise have never considered, and I was delighted by your venture into console games and discovering the vast differences between the pc and console games. The idea your content has grown worse is honestly baffling, your analysis has only grown clearer, your footage better and audio quality improved. Any complaints of amateurishness are just as bizarre, editing out inhaling doesn't strengthen a point and it's such a minor thing to note. If your content is taking longer, let it take longer. In the words of Eiji Aonuma, director of the Legend of Zelda franchise "A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is forever bad" and to quote Shigesato Itoi, creator of the MOTHER franchise when asked if he would make more games after MOTHER 3 "Being made to just force out another game... that wouldn't be good for my colon!". The inherent length, passion and quality of your content more than justifies the time it takes to make.

Kirby Mongerr

Also: in your disco elysium video and others you've talked about how you grew up in really difficult circumstances. Obviously I don't know the full scope of that, but just based off my own Circumstances I know one thing that came out of that is the constant guilt and even trauma around doing remotely okay. I haven't been in an environment like that for years now and still, every time I think about how good my life is, it feels like I'm being an awful person - how dare someone like me, who doesn't deserve safety, have any business being safe when so many people who deserve it don't have it?? I've also had the experience of going from poverty to soild middle-classness and just being able to order in once in a while feels overextravegent - you might not feel this way, but I know that if my monthly income was tied to my creative output AND it was coming from multiple individuals I didn't know AND some of those individuals were really vocal about the idea that I was taking advantage of them - it would be a powder keg around my own sense of self worth and ability to thrive. Again, maybe this doesn't relate to your experience at all. But I have a good therapist and one thing she always tells me to remember is that I don't owe anyone my suffering, and I don't need to suffer x amount before I'm "allowed" to thrive. I hope if that's helpful for me to hear it's helpful for you as well. 💗

monstershaped

Hi Noah! Other people have left comments that articulate this way better than I could, but for what it's worth - I don't donate to your patreon under the expectation that you'll produce x amount of videos per month which are all exactly to my taste with perfect production values and no errors in judgement AND if you don't do all of that to my satisfaction you've betrayed/harmed me. I donate to your patreon because I've loved your work for years and think you have a truly unique voice, and even though the model under which people can do that is flawed (in that any intersection of art production and capitalism is flawed) - it's still worthwhile.

monstershaped

Hey Noah. I'd love to see you experiment with new formats or topics, and I'd love to see more of what you tend to produce now. But, health always comes first. I hope you find peace. Thank you for everything new you've brought into the world.

SergeantQQ

I just saw this, and I'm quite late to the party, but I do have some Opinions™. You think you're in decline because you make too much money? I think that's nuts. You haven't lost touch at all. Talking of folks who make too much money, there's a whole billionaire class out there to target, people who could end world hunger pretty much on their own. Your $5000 patreon is entirely reasonable in comparison. Certainly not too much. I'm glad actually, I'm glad you can support yourself and have left over, that you can make travelogue plans and set goals to go back to school, based on your production some of the most thoughtful and meaningful games criticism I ever have the luck to encounter. You shouldn't shit on yourself like this - or force yourself through ungodly crunch time. Just keep doing your best. People wouldn't be giving you the money if they didn't like your content - or at least that's true for me. I won't lie, I get very excited when you come out with new videos, and if you came out with them more often, I would certainly be happy about it. Additionally, I can't really say I'd really be interested in automotive repair content. But mate, I support your content because it's consistently high quality, and I'm sorry you're questioning that.And I think wanting to go back to school, to write, to go on a road trip, are all pretty reasonable - though sure, maybe hold off on the road trip during the pandemic, but that's more about safety than anything else, I'd say.

Collin Stoltz

your videos are worth the wait, don't feel pressured to put stuff out. we donate because we like what you do, not because we expect something different/more

kubrixXx

I have decided to start donating 2€ per month (as I learned that you can pledge less than the required amount). I would just like to say that your videos are one of my favorite on Youtube. I just like the way you tell stories. Your voice is also perfect as background noise when I'm working on things. I loved your video on God of War, and I have probably watched your Kentucky route Zero 5 times already. I think I have watched every video you have made at least once. Some of them, for example, the Road trip video, even brought me to tears (in a good way). I would honestly enjoy your videos even if they didn't have footage. As for worrying about your quality, I would just like to say this: It's not how much you put in, but how much others get out from it. And if you can live off of Youtube, you must be doing something right. Noah, thanks again for your videos.

Grey Rocket

It sounds like this had been weighing on you for a while, I hope that writing it bought you some sense of relief as much as the feedback from your fanbase here. I think I echo a lot of us on here when I say we donate because we want to, not because we want to push you into a rat-race of feeling like you need to get ever more "professional". I still smile when I see the hand-drawn opening cards, as I'm sure many do. It's one of your touches we've come to love. As for exploring other creative avenues, I see the paradox I didn't think of before: I always saw the donations as giving a greater degree of freedom to explore new avenues, but I can now see how a strong sense of responsibility and the "open all hours" nature of YouTube could make the opposite true as well. I honestly hope that a little bit of each donation gives you the flexibility to do the things you want- the fiction-writing, the ASE, the long lunches with the wife, without having to feel the pressure of time and money clamping you down. I certainly hope I don't project a sense of responsibility or burden on you- as much as I love your videos I like them because they're authentic- something you made because you liked it and didn't feel pressured or rushed into making it. We can wait. Even if you may not always believe it, my donation is my pleasure. You do you, both on and off of YouTube, and I wouldn't have it any other way Noah. Best regards.

James Brandon

I'm paraphrasing this from memory, so I'm probably getting parts wrong. But in one of Richard Feynman's autobiographies he wrote about being hired for a faculty position and being unable to focus on research, while simultaneously feeling like a fraud for not focusing on research. One of the senior people in his department came to him and said it wasn't his fault if he never produced anything. It was on them for hiring him. Feynman took that to heart, relaxed, started having fun with his work, did a bunch of physics shit I don't understand, and made worthwhile contributions to his discipline. Similarly, I send you a very small sum of money each month because you made some things I like, and I hope you'll make more things I like in the future. If you don't make them it's on me. You don't owe me anything. Please stop punching yourself in the testicles, take more time off, and have fun with your work. If you want to never make another video about games again and decide to refocus all of your attention on writing books or car maintenance that would be fine. It might even be more than fine; Clunker Corner is one of the best things you've made, and I say that as someone with no interest in cars. Thanks for making YouTube slightly less terrible.

Jerboa

Don't worry so much.

Simon Shaw

i just wanted to echo a lot of others in that i dont think of my pledge as a purchase, but supporting a creator whose work is important to me. i guess itd be most accurate to say its like a donation to me. im perfectly happy waiting a while between videos bc i can see how much work it clearly takes, and i watch most of your stuff multiple times anyway. youre a person first and id rather see you comfortable than overworking yourself! i do wanna say that as a trans man, yeah, i was definitely disappointed when i watched your tlou2 video the first time, especially when there were so many thinkpieces by cis people going around about it at the time and i was just so burnt out on it. but i definitely felt better when i saw your apology in the comments, and now seeing the work youve done since, i can tell youve definitely come to understand what was wrong and done real work to make up for it. i dont have the power to forgive you on behalf of all trans people or w/e, but it is meaningful to me personally to see you obviously caring a lot about trying to do better. thank you for everything you do, i really love your work. youre one of my favourite critics, and i hope that youre able to feel better soon.

Cecil Fant

Just dropping to offer you a hug and unconditional support. You do you. We appreciate it.

Esther O'Keefe

Noah, my brother in depression, all I can say is that we all knew what we were signing up for when we joined. You're doing everything you can and striving to do more. That's all we can ask. Anyone expecting more can pound sand or be an adult and request a refund. But for each of those folks, there are plenty more of us just happy to be surprised by your next topic, your peculiar insight, and unique presentation (you're dead on the money about the charm of those hand-drawn signs). There's nobody else like you in this space -- that's not a fault, it's a feature. And I look forward to finding out where you take us next.

Brandon Martin-Sinkus

Hey Noah, dropping in to echo what I've seen many, many other people express here. I can only speak for myself, but I've chosen to support you because I want to support *your* work, whatever form that work may take. Regardless of your output, the relative "professionalism" of your video editing, or any other factor, as someone else has already mentioned, your voice is a valuable one. Your writing has been so excellent and compelling you've somehow hoodwinked me into watching 90 minute long videos on games I have never been interested in. And you've had be captivated for all 90 of those minutes. Your travelogues have expressed a mix of love and loathing that I feel for modern America that I never felt I could properly verbalize, let alone form into a coherent video. As I saw written in another comment, you're like a friend I will, in all likelihood, never get to meet. And you're an excellent critic. But, at the risk of being dismissed as hyperbolic, you're also Thoreau writing A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers. The medium of what you're criticizing, the journey you're undertaking, is only the set dressing of the true tale that you're telling. That's why I've chosen to support you. Given the nature of depression I doubt my, or anyone else's, comment will grant you the peace you're looking for. But hopefully in aggregate we can push the needle a bit. Wishing you all the best in the future, I'll continue to consume your content with aplomb, in whatever form it presents itself.

David S

Noah, I will continue to put in $5 a month regardless of your output level. Many people I choose to give money too have a similarly sporadic release schedule, and I still find them. Why? I believe you, and other similar to you, are valuable voices. I'm sure I'm not the only one who belives this, look at the other comments. If you believe you are making more than you're comfortable with that's a reflection on how many people share this belief. Keep up the good work. I won't stop supporting you unless I can't afford it anymore. Enjoy the fruits of your labour.

Will Wargrave

Noah, you are beating yourself up far too much about all this. Most of us are probably in for 12 US a year. If you produce 3 hours of content in that year, I reckon most of us would call that a bargain. You need to understand that what you do, interacting with games on the level that you do, is not easy, and that your patrons recognise this. We're not rubes. We know what we're doing, which is supporting one of the finest videogame critics out there. I personally don't even want you to be cracking out videos with mechanistic regularity. Your videos are, and I think should be, events. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Dedicated Medicated

Noah I feel your struggle. But rest assured: You're not getting my money because I am expecting new content regularly, but because I want to show some love for the content you have already done. To me, you're like a friend I'm never going to meet. The least I can do is help you out a little.

Incorrect Beans

I'm really sorry to hear anyone gives you grief for enjoying a bit of (well deserved) success. I didn't chip in because I thought it'd make your videos slicker, but because I already liked what I saw. Don't let anyone say you can only be an artist if you're starving.

kalyptein

Patronage is not the same as purchasing, and I feel comfortable with you taking your time with whatever artistic endeavor you feel you want or need to do. I like your videos a great deal, and being a patron affords me the peace of mind that…….just, you're going to be okay, at least financially. I would like the artists who create the art I enjoy to be able to make that art without the threat of penury. Because of the state of the world, I can’t be sure of that unless I, at the very least, put some money down. I know you can just do your part-time job and be fine, but I still want to do this. I don’t know about other people’s relationship with patronage services like this, but I consider it like making a garden rather that buying a discrete amount of “product”. I make the environment ready for things to germinate, and if they can’t do it, I’ll keep trying for as long as I feel comfortable, no hard feelings. That might seem foolish of me, but it does me no harm and doesn’t hurt anyone else. And maybe this seems foolish only because of the distorted views on art and expression we have in this country, at this time. Maybe the expectation that someone puts money into the Patreon and you neatly excrete “content” for them at proportionate intervals is weird, and dehumanizing. I have had depression, and I would describe the experience of living with depression as like living with no skin. Anything that touches you hurts, and things that are gentle and kind enough not to hurt feel like nothing. Any kind of criticism or negativity sinks into you, and festers like an infection. As such, I can say to you that “you’re doing fine, don’t worry about it, everyone makes mistakes”, and know that it doesn’t matter how sincerely I feel this or how true it is, the pain of having upset people will sing just as loud, like a burn all over your body. Thank you for making the things you’ve shared with us, and for making this post, as I’m sure it wasn’t easy talking about this. I look forward to what you do next, however long you need to do it.

April Mahon

Just wanting to drop off a comment that you don't need to worry about any real quality besides writing, I think your older videos are completely fine for patrons not because we employ you but because we generally want to support you. I know I'd just like to hear your voice and thoughts on whatever you make. Just reading this wall of text of yours and I can tell you aren't happy which I can relate to in my every single day of life. Depression and all that, but try to find solace in the people who just want to support you. I care very little about any sort of deadlines or anything especially considering I enjoy so many channels like yours that take their time, and expecting anything of you would be bad faith on my part. Literally just wanted to pledge what amounts to a tip each month because I appreciate you, not because I expect things from you. And sorry if I read over some of your thoughts or if you feel like I didn't account for them, but the sheer length of this post is more telling than anything.

Rinklestein

Hi Noah -- I have always thought of my Patreon support as something to help give you the environment where you can be creative -- whatever form that creativity might take (game review video, travelogue, essay writing, fiction writing, podcast?...interpretive dance? lol). I don't see it as a transaction where X amount of money turns into Y amount of video footage. Instead it's more like finding this really rare weird egg and wanting to see what it hatches into. You have read so many books I haven't read, and experienced so many things I haven't experienced -- and you communicate these things in such a way that I feel a little more connected to the world.

Carol Henderson

I think u really overthink how much criticism Last of us 2 took. Im supporting you becous you deliver the kind of jurnalism i am starved. If i get to wait, its fine by me, better to eat seldom then to starve

Danisz Szwed

It seems I'm a bit late in reading this message; Five whole days I've ignored my inbox. Well, to be fair, I usually don't respond to these things at all. Like most (if not all; I skimmed, but everything seems positive) of the nice people here, I've come to offer up some support. I've read some people proposing you get therapy with your Patreon money, and frankly that seems like a good idea, if you feel it'll help you. And if you do seek help, I hope it works out swimmingly. On the whole "state of the channel" thing -- Look at it this way instead : We've all democratically decided that your content was worth you being paid this much. The self-deprecating comparison to professionals is kinda meaningless; Yes, they might have better "training" than you, but most of them probably don't have your insight. Some of the ones who are paid more probably suck at their jobs despite their training. The idea that your productivity needs to increase with your income is off by a mile. Yeah, sure, I'm a patron to enable you to make new content without needing to worry about other things, but I'm recent enough that I'm still paying dividends on your older works. As for fiction : I look forward to reading your work when (or if) it comes out. Finally, on the weird para-social end of this discussion : Thanks and good work for reaching out. It musn't have been easy. I can't imagine the pressure of having a thousand mostly-silent bosses. But hey, on the bright side, we all seem to be rooting for you, flaws and all.

Gaspard Fleury-Hurtubise

I'm in academia (PhD candidate) and your talk about balancing work and the amount of guilt you feel when putting time, effort, and energy into anything that isn't what you are being directly paid to do is so completely relatable to me. The problem I find is that when you are "employed/paid" to do work that has no clear work hours, and no exact deadlines, then that work comes to conceptually demand it be what you are working on at all times, because it is something that you *could* be working on at all times. Want to watch a movie that could make you feel better about things? Why not read that article and put notes down that could help you write your chapter. Want to read some fiction to help give your brain a rest and invigorate it in a way that is only done when you're eyes deep in a story? That's an indulgence, go back to work. Want to take a day off to try and recharge mentally? Every second is one you could be doing work. The problem is inescapable, and constant, and a bullshit lie. There are no clear answers for this, other than to find what works for you individually to both manage your personal needs for your physical and mental health, for your need to find satisfaction and passion in what you do (here or elsewhere), and to be able to help find ways that balance can support the work you set out to do on youtube. I've been watching (and rewatching, and rewatching...) your videos for a while now, and you are one of my favourite channels to put on and relax into. I love your tone, your style, your approach, and all the otherwise imperfections that give such a unique flavour to what you produce. I also don't expect to agree with everything, but I sure as hell enjoy listening to your thoughts. I hope that you can find a means to keep doing what you're doing and not feel guilty for finding fulfillment in other projects at the same time. If anything, take my donation and consider it support for you as a whole person, not just a #ContentCreator. If that means you pass it on to someone you think needs it more that month/day/year, then please do. If that means you need to buy a tall boy and stare at the ceiling while shaking off the thoughts that drive you down, then do. And, honestly, I hope to see what kinds of fiction all your experiences have driven you to write one day.

Brenton Buchanan

I can only speak for myself, but I don't support with the expectation that production value will increase accordingly, nor do I expect it to remain the same. I support you, as a critic and creator, whose thoughts I value. Take care :)

Paul Puccio

Noah keep on keeping on. If we were not happy with what you were doing we would not donate money. If its any consolation, copying is the best indication that what you do is good, and there are a lot of people now doing long form critiques. You started a trend.

Davis Alder

I only discovered your channel recently, but since then you've become one of my favorite creators on YouTube. In my opinion, the value of something has little to nothing to do with production values. I like your videos because they are insightful. In particular one part of the insight I appreciate is as a non-expert gamer, like myself. I really appreciate bringing that perspective to the "critical table" (if you will). That's a big reason why I decided to become a patron and I haven't regretted it since. Recently I did drop a few pledges from other creators because I felt like their content no longer aligned with me to the extent that they used to. I can't say that will never happen with you, but I still think it will be money well spent, for however long it lasts. As for what you do with your life, I think you're entitled to your own decisions. You are right in that pace and what you work on can matter to a lot of people, but I think that if you want write a novel, you should. It would be silly for us to ask you to do only one thing for the rest of your life and never develop in way that you want to. That personal development can (though does not have to) flow back into your videos. This is a bit of a ramble, but you do you.

Ben Bariteau

Noah, I just want to say- you've gotta stop beating yourself up brother. You are one of my favourite content creators of all time- equal top (alongside PSVR Without Parole if you were wandering). It seems to me that the black dog depression co-authored the letter you wrote, and despite being familiar with your situation in that regard due to your Depression Quest video, I was suprised to see the letter because I thought your content has been consistently wonderful. Take care of yourself, but just know that your content has not dipped in quality in the slightest (I binged through the KRZ game so I could hear your thoughts on it sooner, and was glad I did), if you feel bad for every bad thing that happens in the world or everyone who takes your good-faith commentary the wrong way then you will drive yourself crazy, and I would be chomping at the bit to see any book that you ended up writing. You are smashing it mate, you should be proud of everything you have accomplished.

Huw Tuffin

I wanted to add to the voices saying that you deserve to do the work that you love doing. That honesty and passion are what make your content stand above and beyond the crowd. To be coning someone you have to have that intention, and you clearly do not. I am giving freely in the hope that I am supporting someone in work that makes them happy. You only betray that expectation if you don't follow where your heart leads.

Sean

I'm a point in my life where $10 is no longer a make or break amount for me, and I'm happy to donate it to support someone who creates the content that I enjoy. Don't be so hard on yourself, you create unique stuff with a voice that is all your own that brings joy to others, and that's worthwhile.

Dave Kasson

Normally, I don't comment on videos, or really interact much at all with the people that create the media I consume online. Youtube, and social media in general has created a very strange dynamic between the people that create content, and those that produce it, and it's one I'm often wary of. Despite the fact that you and I will likely never meet, and our relationship is nonexistent outside of you creating videos and me watching them, I feel compelled to comment on your post. I want you to know that I feel like my money is well spent every time I watch one of your videos, Noah. If I had to stop supporting you financially, then I would do so without regretting the money I've already pledged. I've found nowhere else that I can get such an incredibly personal deep dives into games and travel like on your channel. So long as it's possible, and you're willing, I want to be able to keep watching and supporting your work. With regards to your work outside of making videos, I won't feel like my money is wasted by you pursuing other interests, or even just taking time off. For me, what makes your work so compelling is how much of *you* ends up in it, and I think that if you are free to experience life as you choose, to develop new skills like being a mechanic or writing fiction, then you should, because that too will be reflected in what you're already making. I'm here to enjoy the perspectives of one person in particular; Noah Gervais. From what you've written here, it seems like you don't think you deserve the amount that you're earning, for the quality and quantity of what you produce. I have to disagree, and say that the quality of your writing and the sheer quantity of it with each release has yet to be matched by anything else I've found. I don't truly know you, nor you me, but my perspective is this; the world is sometimes cruel and sometimes kind, too often the former and not often enough the later. It's rare for people to be able to pursue self expression as you have been able to, but I believe that you are no less deserving than anyone else. If you've done all you can to make sure that people can be refunded if they choose, and making feature length video critiques allows you to live well and still have some money left over, I think you should do so with a clean conscience. I wish you all the best. -Fin

Finley M.

I pledge to you because I want to support you. I know there are caveats for many people and it's good that you don't want to ignore them. But I am more than happy with what I am getting, and I am only interested in seeing what you want to do with it. And this is also coming from a background where I understand your challenges (or at least a version of them) and am personally willing to accommodate them. Nothing will appease everyone, and I cannot pretend my voice is the authoritative one, but it is still one of them. I hope you are doing okay today.

Matthew Casseday

I know this will just be another voice here, but it only takes a moment for me to say this so its more than worth it.

Matthew Casseday

I'll one voice among many, but as someone in the tech industry who earns above my necessities, id offer the idea if donating periodically if you really feel like you've earned too much. Personally I occasionally throw in to a go fund me or paypal thats posted under the #transcrowdfund tag on Twitter. Its not enough, because nothing is ever enough, but its something

Robin!

I’m going to keep donating to you as long as you have a Patreon. I believe in you and everything you do, and I’ve seen the quality increase in your videos, and let me be honest: other youtubers are starting to put out longer videos, but your still beat theirs in length hands down. I feel like you actually really discuss the content of the whole game, the story, the motivations, it’s all together, and it comes together. Talking about the philosophy inherent in a game like Death Standing is powerful. Other people just write reviews of games from a very entry level place. Normally, they have not played the full game and gotten and pondered the wider narrative, concepts, and details. You do. That have value far well above flashy graphics and “professional” production. People giving you crap for having depression despite your life being grand are missing a central issue that I’ve always dealt with in my own depression: “what do you have to be sad about?” I don’t have anything to be sad about… _that’s why it’s depression_, and that’s why it’s an illness. But some haters gonna hate, and act all surprised when Robin Williams succumbs to the ravages of the disease. We don’t see it, because we’re not in your head. But depression is real man, and it kills. And you gotta do everything possible to keep things away from that point. Also, not sure about what complaints I would see in your TLOU2 retrospective. I will admit I haven’t listened to any of the meta-narrative about your work, but frankly, even being a trans person, I didn’t see anything really wrong with your video. I mean, cis people gotta express themselves about some trans topics, and I felt your view wasn’t coming from a place of hatred, or disgust. So, I dunno, I saw nothing serious to complain about there… nitpicks? Maybe… but nothing _big_. You gotta also take time off to do other things. I know all your time is flex time, and technically just even playing a video game is, _itself_, “doing your job”. But you still need to take time for your self. Other hobbies, do other things. You can’t be working 16 hours a day, my dude. Even if those 16-hours a day are basically playing video games.

Kisse

Sometimes Patreon pages are for projects – maybe a specific podcast or YouTube channel, with any number of contributors. Sometimes they are for creators – when I back a creator, I feel like I am supporting all their creative content. Fiction, travelogs, video game commentary, podcasts, blog posts, whatever. Creators often shift their focus between mediums and projects. That is normal, I expect that. Their patron demographics will naturally shift along with them, and that is fine too. Please don't feel bad about the length of your production time. The long considerate writing and reflecting time is obviously a big part of your creative process, and why I enjoy your work so much. Last year CGP Grey switched his Patreon from "per-video" to "monthly", catering to his backers who want to support the long haul of creativity, instead of paying for quantitative video output: https://www.patreon.com/posts/changes-to-30003830 – I think he made the right decision.

Josh Duff (TehShrike)

Dear Noah, As of this writing, there are 168 people before me who have Overwhelmingly voiced love and support of your work. I wanted to say as someone who had to drop down from the 10$ a month pledge I did so for financial reasons, and not because I didn't enjoy your work. Your work and content means a lot to me, and has helped me decide to travel myself. If you hadn't introduced me to travel via Playtesting Adventure, I don't know that I would look at it the same way, or with the same zeal that I do. -- And don't worry, I'm not copying your life; It's a tradition. Thank you for making those travelogues. That aside, You do not owe every waking moment of your life to your work. If you want to write, go back to school, make videos, travel, or do literally anything I am sure you will make amazing things out of that experience, and I look forward to hearing about it when you do sit down and catalog it. Do not allow the people in the Comment Section of Youtube, or even here on Patreon decide what you should do with your limited time here on earth. I give money to you because of the quality and effort you show in your work, and I have yet to be even remotely disappointed. I hope some day I can restore my pledge to its original 10$, because I think you deserve it, and I want to support you and folks like you.

Tyler Rusch

For what it's worth coming from me, the reason I donate is because I follow you as an artist. I genuinely think you have some of the best writing on YouTube, and - as a fellow writer (fiction) myself - your work has occasionally given me insight into my own. Putting a price on that is not possible. If you decided to allocate some time writing up a novel, I'd be nothing but intrigued! Seeing how your ideas evolve and adapt into another mode of writing would honestly be enough for me. Thank you for your stuff - I hope to keep on seeing it, whenever it comes out.

Anonymous

I can't add much more but to say I believe in you and I don't resent your patreon income whatsoever. What you create is a beacon of hope that YouTube doesn't have to be a cesspool of attention grabbing thumbnail images and headlines. I just spent the last few minutes gushing to my mate about how awesome your videos are. You deserve all of the praise and don't deserve any of the toxic messaging you've received. Stand up straight, take a deep breath. We're all here for you.

Scott Muc

Already tons here, but just wanted to chime in and say that I don't care at all about your schedule and will continue supporting anyway. This is true all the time – I go back and watch your old videos regularly enough that it is only right to support you – but especially right now, during a period of global instability. We've all internalized in our own ways the idea that our own worth is measured by capitalistic output. I don't care that you are paid as much as "professional video creators." I like your work better and it is worth more to me. But further to the point, the equation you're presenting of time/output/money reflects what is good for the platforms you use – YouTube and Patreon – and not necessarily reflective of what is good for you (and by extension, your work). If you're not comfortable with the donations you're making every month, though I DEEPLY believe that all the things you brought up have little to do with whether or not your community supports you, why not subscribe to other content creators, make donations to local services for mental health and so on, or find other ways to redistribute the money in ways that will feel right? And just as much – if you want to stop making this content, or to take a hiatus, those are also both ok. People can unsubscribe from Patreon and join again if/when you decide to release content. For me, I'd stay subscribed. Everyone deserves time off and rest. Thank you for your work, it is thought provoking, comforting, and beautiful. I appreciate your insight as much as your humility and commitment to growth.

Lachlan Fletcher

Like a lot of people on here, I read your post yesterday and found myself compelled to write this. So many people have put forth so many well thought out posts of encouragement, advice, and even pleas on your behalf that I hope some of them sink in for you. I'm adding my own to the pile in hopes of adding more weight to all this. You need to stop beating up on yourself. Seriously. Some of the views you expressed in this post with regards to your self are unhealthy and self-abusive. I know and appreciate your feeling responsible for your patrons for the money we give you, and the pressure you feel it puts on you, but you can't let it keep affecting you like this. I am a writer, and I also suffer from issues of depression and self-blaming. It's something I've battled with for years, and only have made headway with by nature of extensive therapy and medication. But I can attest that those things have helped considerably. It's why I say that if you're not seeking help in the form of a therapist and psychiatrist, I sincerely hope you do so. Because man, you sound like I did a long while back, and I can attest to you that that shit and healthy. I have been so happy to see both your Patreon and your channel grow in popularity, not just because I want to see good creators succeed, but because you earnestly seem like a good, thoughtful, and caring person. I think it's evident you're a very empathetic person, and I think that comes with both positives and negatives, especially as you continue to take off. You have to learn how to healthily engage with negativity in your job, both from the outside in the form of comments and from the inside in the form of your self-criticism. Negative critique is only useful to you insofar as it helps you learn from your mistakes. If you let it cause you harm, or cause you to second guess yourself, then it is not beneficial to you or your work. You need to let the positive comments encourage and push you forward, and you need to take negative ones, learn from them (if they're valid, that "poisoned by money" shit is useless and hateful) and disregard what's left. The last thing--you need to forgive yourself for that LOU2 thing. You need to allow yourself to make mistakes. More importantly, you need to take some proportionality to all this. 1. You're going to get harsh comments, just by nature of your size. 2. You've never once acted or commented maliciously or in bad faith. These are the people who actually cause harm to the community and the discourse. 3. Because you approach these things openly and empathetically, it's ok to make mistakes and learn from them. Often that's the only way that you *will* learn. 4. Everyone is allowed their opinion, but you need to find people who are caring and honest and who *know* you and listen to them because you seem to have a hard time judging your own work. This last one is notable because I have the same problem. I have a serious imposter complex and it sounds like you do as well. Everything I do seems inadequate to me, despite me doing my best and despite it, more often than not, being extremely well received by the people I care about and by most strangers. You're not taking advantage of us. You're not fooling us. We're adults who are choosing to fund you. If you go months without putting something out and we still fund you, trust that it is because we know how your process works and *want* you to take the time you need. Self-care is important, not just for yourself, but for your content. If you keep riding yourself so hard and being self-critical, that will harm your creative work more than anything else. Last thing: take some time to write fiction. Just do it. You don't owe us every moment of your time. Do it and if you need to put it on here for us to read so you can tell yourself it's "work". You need to stop treating us like you owe us something, because you don't. We're funding your content because we want to. The only thing you need to do is, well, be you. And seriously, man. Get yourself a therapist if you don't already have one. If you want to know where to throw some of that money, then right there it is. Get help working through this shit.

PHILIP A COFFEY

Noah, my man. I tried very hard to compose some long encouraging post here, but most of what I wanted to say has already been said by the good folks above. I just want you to know that I've been watching your videos for the best part of a decade, and every time I get a notification that you've posted something new, I immediately make time to watch it in its entirety. Your lo-fi production values combined with the honesty and thoughtfulness of your writing are a charming combination, and I will keep pledging my money towards seeing more of these videos and enjoying your creativity further. If you want to take a break, take a break. If you want to write a novel, write a novel. If you want to make an east-coast road trip to document the scenes of Fallout 3 and 4, make that trip. This is Patreon after all. If people like what you do, at the pace you do it, they give you money. If they don't, they will cancel their pledges. Entitled fuckheads on youtube will complain about everything, fuck them. Money talks, and we have voted with our wallets to continue funding your creative projects up until now, and I for one see no reason to stop. Keep up the good work Kimmo

Kimmo Heikkinen

Noah. Keep making what you feel like making. I always find something interesting in whatever you produce. I pledge because I appreciate the content you are trying to create. It will never come out perfectly and you will never please everyone. But it makes me happy that a channel like yours exists. Sean

Sean Murphy

(Sorry for the block post, by computer isn't letting me insert paragraph breaks). Hi Noah, I've been a casual viewer for several years now and, over the last month, I've really fallen in love with your work. I decided to support you on Patreon because, one, I want to support you doing things that give you creative fulfillment and, two, because your writing, your casual, but wonderfully articulate way with words, inspires me in my own writing. Further, to be quite frank, one of the main things that made me click the support button on Patreon was reading this post, specifically your section about your depression. It's a hell of a thing to go through and it'll knock you on your ass. No one should be criticizing you for how you talk about your own lived experience with it because they don't now the distinct and often peculiar ways it affects you and you in particular. It's perfectly fine for people to decide to stop pledging because they don't have the money or they've lost interest, but please understand that when I pledge, when anyone pledges on this site, all we are doing is giving you more room, more latitude to grow, both your craft and as a person. If someone mistakenly understands this platform as a simple transaction - I pay my $10 and you churn out 'content' (TM) - then, I'm sorry to say, they've misunderstood this platform thoroughly. This is not an avenue to repay you for the hours of insightful critique and thoughtful musings we've all enjoyed, but, rather, it's an avenue to support you, to let you be you and enjoy your life with your wife. Even if you feel you have the financial cushion to not need my $10 to subsist on, I'm happy for you to funnel it into a creative venture that makes you contented or to pay for, like, a burger and fries, I don't really care, so long as you're making use of it, somehow, some way. All this is to say, keep doing what you're doing, prioritize your own health (that includes mental!) and your loved ones, and we'll be here to support you in doing that. - Aaron

Aaron Hendrix

I donate for your writing and thoughts, not your production values. And yea, my depression isn't your depression. But I sort of know what it's like, every critique will hit like a truck, every positive comment will just fall right off you. And nothing you do is ever good enough and never lives up to the expectations you feel like you should be delivering on. But hey. Relax. You do good work. Just keep doing what you're doing, and we'll vote with our money. I for one would love to see you take a chance at writing fiction, fixing up cars, whatever. Your current pace of gaming/travel related videos has been perfectly fine with me, if that's what works for you. I get that it can feel wrong to be earning a more than decent living off this, but it's pretty clear that you put a lot of time and effort into each of your multi-hour essays. You should try to take the patreon support as a compliment for the quality you are currently delivering already. Because that's what it is. Thanks for the huge wall of apologetic text, and thanks for the quality videos.

RobinOttens

I pledged because of the immense value I'd already gotten from your work, not in anticipation of the future. I have no claim on your time. And I'd far rather live in a world where you'd written a novel than one where you went back to making pizzas.

Peter Ciccolo

Oooh can I reply? I can? Oh man noah oh boy you son of a bitch are you still doing this? im calling the police I always wondered what it would be like if we could actually rescue Noah from America, and here we are. Haven't even actually done it yet and the guilt is already devouring my boy from the inside. I knew you'd take the trans critiques hard but also that you'd learn from them. It is what it is. I'm proud of you for getting so first past the post about a game, all the same. As I'm sure all these other folks said, the money is to live on, so go live. If you've got too much and you've joined the 1% and you're hanging out with celebs like weird al yankovic so often you don't have time to write your d and d campaign what was I talking about Anyway, imho stop doing this painfully real shame spiral and pile up some of the money into a big cushion and just have a rest on it. Just relaxation! Yeah it feels weird to be a gangster I'm sure but it's a weird time. Just make sure you tip well and support your local antifa.

TheSoulJames

Hey Noah wanted to chime in on this post and let you know how I feel as someone who just started being a patron. Essentially I feel like I should’ve been giving you the money sooner, and this expense is probably the last thing I’d ever cancel if I had to. Your videos mean so much me, I watch them constantly and am also overwhelmed by how welcoming and warm they make me feel. This may come off as hyperbole but I truly mean it when I tell my friends and family that your videos are my absolute favorite media I’ve ever seen/played/heard/etc. $10 is a pittance to hear you wax about life, travel, and video games. Your presence in my life as a content creator is immense. You really inspire me, you are someone who is living the capital “D” Dream, and to be share even a slice of that with you is a gift. I’ve probably seen each one of your videos a few times now and I’m left with the same feeling every time, complete and total admiration. Don’t let people who treat what is a donation as ransom, you deserve your success and we want you to succeed even more. TLOU2 review was really a knockout for me and while my perspective of a trans person isn’t monolithic in anyway, I truly think you made a good faith argument that bordered on tepidity with the main take. People are entitled to their feelings but I want to say as someone who has been at the trans thing for almost a decade, you engaged with the piece in a nuanced an fair way, and I hope you hear that more. Gushing aside thank you for being so transparent, humble, and willing to be good to your patrons. We are here to support you because we love the things you do, and perhaps someone who spent years toiling in food service deserves the forward momentum of a sizable internet presence, don’t you think? Me and the other 975 patrons certainly think so. Thanks for everything Noah.

Dr. Crime

I definitely agree about the word donations. You'll notice in my comment I say the word "support" a lot and it's partly because I'm trying to convey something that isn't a wage but also isn't a donation or act of charity and I was struggling to get a good word for it. I hoped my meaning would come across and I take from your comment a sign that it did. I wish I had advice to offer for how to improve the situation but it's hard because from my perspective the situation isn't in need of much improvement. Maybe Noah could do with having a discord channel for patrons, somewhere he could get some more interaction on an easier basis with his supporters, bounce ideas around and get a feeling for where his patrons are at? Just a thought.

theroadie451

Hi Noah. I just pledged so I could comment here saying that your work is good and your labour is valid. I've struggled all my life with the Protestant work ethic. The fruits of your labour do not have to measure up to anything but your own standards, and if you're unhappy with the results then improve. If all these people are here for what doing now, then you're doing something right, not EVERYTHING right. I've been watching your content for years now. The people who have been supporting you aren't marks. They haven't been duped. They just want you to be able to continue making these videos. Remember that you don't have to be exceptional, even when you frequently are.

Adam Page

I sincerely hope you don't take this as criticism since you are already beating yourself up so much, but I'm pretty sure it's not an exaggeration to say that you are the most self-critical content creator I've ever seen. I can understand that having people donate money to support you financially comes with a sense of responsibility and that negative comments always tend to hit harder than positive ones, but it really feels like you are being absurdly hard on yourself. People who support you on patreon, myself included, are not imbeciles who don't know what they are doing. We are making a conscious decision to give you some money because we like your content. That's it. It's also ok to make mistakes. Human beings make mistakes. It's INEVITABLY going to happen to every content creator that they say or do something that rubs people the wrong way and is met with disapproval. You are ALLOWED to make mistakes. You are also allowed to have a life. You are not chained to your Youtube channel. You are allowed to write fiction, or to spend your time on other projects, or to just rest for a while. Being responsible with the trust that has been given to you is a good thing up to a certain point, but allowing people on twitter say over whether or not you are allowed time for other projects just sounds so ridiculously unhealthy. If you find it difficult to think this way for your own sake, please remember that trying too hard to placate a minority of negative voices can end up hurting the part of your output that the majority of your viewers is enjoying. Not everyone will like the choices you make or the things you create. That's fine. No one can please everyone, and sometimes you end up pleasing no one if you try. (Also, just as a sidenote, telling someone that "the money poisoned them" because they made a take you disagree with is a such a fucking dickhead Youtube comment thing that I find it hard to take remotely seriously, even though I can absolutely understand that it hurts when you are the recipient of such a comment). I really, really like your content. I like your production, your editing and your narration. Your particular brand of analysis has a flow and feeling that I haven't found anywhere else. I agree that a lot has improved, and I absolutely think you are getting better at pretty much every facet of creating these videos, but even the old videos still hold up well. I don’t always agree with every point you make, and I don’t always like everything you say, but that’s FINE. That’s the way creating content works. You can’t please everyone. I’m worried that you might hurt your channel and your health if you try too hard. I’m really sorry if any of this rambling sounds presumptions or ignorant. I don’t know you as a person, and I’m sorry if it sounds like I believe I do. If I can ask just one thing as “repayment” for the money I support you with it would be this: Please be nicer to yourself, if you can. Please? Thanks for everything you have done and everything you will do in the future. Best of luck!

Nemo van den Brink

Please chill out

Clayton

Please do not feel like you're running some sort of "con job". I never comment on anything like this, but if I felt I was being conned I would just pull my subscription. I think your success on YouTube comes from the work you've put into it. Personally, the travelogue videos, especially the first couple are among my favorite videos on YouTube. I honestly love them.

James Mosca

Everyone who donates does so not as a way to purchase a product, but to help you out and as a gesture to show that your work matters. Your work, with the lo-fi aesthetics, the long running times and your own unique analytical thinking. I don't think you should worry so much about production values. And you should feel free to use your time to improve your own life, not only your channel. It's a donation, it's not a purchase or a subscription and you don't owe us anything. No one is being duped into liking your work or wanting you to have free time to develop other skills.

Lucas Marcondes de Moura

Man, you're an incredible creator. My wife and I adore what you do and the spirit of it, and will happily continue to donate. You've accomplished an artistic dream, and I think that's incredible. But also, you absolutely don't owe us 100% of your time. Write that novel, take that certification course. Your life is your own, and you're not a slave to Patreon. But I also totally get that depression. I've got it, too. That nagging sense of doubt. What really has helped me is by treating that voice in my head like it's an asshole trying to bring me down. No sane person would talk to another like that (and all the shitty messages you get fall under that same category). You're amazing, dude, and you've made a big impact in my family's life with your stuff. Just keep being you, no matter what form it takes.

Eliezer Dobrín

I feel one hundred percent comfortable just letting you figure out what comes next in your own way with the understanding that you'll get it to me when it's done. I definitely don't feel resentful or taken advantage of!

Andy Moore

Noah, I can't really add anything more to what has already been said (and I read every comment to see if I could contribute more.) I signed up to show my appreciation for what I consider to be one of the best voices in gaming criticism on Youtube. Those nights when my amnesia kicks in or my anxiety is in overdrive, those are the nights when my small contribution to your channel is payed back tenfold. I don't pay because I feel you owe me anything, and I certainly don't pay because I want any ownership over your channel. I signed up because what you produce matters to me, and I do it glady. No refund needed, and I hope you hear us all when we say we support you because it's a choice, not an obligation. No obligation is expected in return.

Adam Finlay

Noah, like the many other voices here I greatly value your work and am grateful for the chance to support it. I have full confidence in you, your path, your creative output and the ways you choose to utilize the resources I and others help provide here. As far as I'm concerned my monthly contribution is a carte blanche for you to pursue whatever you need and want to, because I have faith in knowing it will likely result in unique output of the highest caliber. Whether I'm right or wrong, it's my dime to spend; and in my book, you've already earned it. Wishing you all the best for the rest of this hellish year and beyond.

Michael Becker

Like others have said already, I am greatly appreciative of every piece of work you put out there, but I wouldn't/don't support you with any expectation of a service existing between you and myself/your patrons. We're here to support you and your creative work. For what it's worth, I've been through depression myself and its effect on my creative output is one of the most disappointing affects it has on me, and this year, despite all its free time, has certainly compounded that for me.

Jack

Hey Noah, I'll try and keep this comment short just in case you do read all of these since it looks like there's more than enough for you to read already. I signed up as a patron because I wanted to, and I knew what your upload schedule looked like already. Please don't feel like taking that money is theft, and please don't feel like you're indebted to only work on making videos.

DoomedSheridan

I mean, we're all fans of NC-G. Some of it probably rubbed off on us.

Brian Baro

You and your work are worth every single dollar and cent and more besides. I have never and will never view my patreon pledge to you as transactional; X dollars in for Y content out per unit of time. Creation and art do not work that way. A creator's value, your value, is not measured in the content produced, it is in the act of creation itself. As much within the mental cul de sacs, scenic routes and winding trails of the path taken as the destinations those paths ultimately arrived at. The process is not valueless and it is absolutely worth the patronage. We all know the content you produce and the method by which you produce it. The former necessitates the latter, in what ever form that is. As such we support the process as much as the content. Long-form essays and critiques such as yours take time, and I would much rather you took the time that you need to create something of which you are proud than attempt to satitate a demand that exists in the mind of a hypothetical viewer. The heart of your work has ever been quality over quantity, something that I can say you have never failed to deliver, it should remain that way for as long as you find enjoyment and fulfillment in it. My personal take on the techincal side of production is that I find the low-fi nature of the work emminently charming. The presence of the odd cough or flubbed line of narration are endearing vestiges of the process that formed the video and they never fail to bring a smile to my face even on repeat viewings. Their presence has never and does not detract from the actual content of your work which is invariably stellar. Your travel content has been some of the very best on your channel. The joy and passion you have for the fantasies and realities of travel, the mythology and geography of North America, runs clear through those pieces and is fearsomely infectious. They are an absolute joy to revisit and I would be very much on-board with further content of that stripe. Whatever the money or time expenditure required, the experience will be tremendous and the results will absolutely be worth it. Doubly so for your dalliances with fiction writing, follow your heart and passion to wherever it takes you. I come back to a section of one of your early travel videos where you weigh-up the inherent values of map reading and analogue navigation against the over-reliance on satelite navigation. Your work is emblematic of the beauty of the former. It takes time to get there, you're never quite sure when you'll arrive, but in that lies the heart of adventure. To find yourself at the end of a weather-beaten trail overlooking a vista someone may not have laid eyes upon in centuries. Or critiquing Jalopy. We are patrons of you; as a critic, as a creator and as a person. You and your work motivated me to sign up to patreon the moment I was financially able to do so. You were the first patreon page I subscribed to and all these years later I'm still here. Rest assured you have improved tremendously throughout that period but even if you hadn't I would still be here. Yours is a voice the industry desperately needs and it has been a privilege, in whatever small capacity, to support that voice and the man that wields it. My pledge is to you, your wife and your two doggos so that you may live comfortably and happily so that that creative spark in you can lead you in whichever direction you desire. You have value Noah. Never forget that.

Tom Painter

Naoh, please take care of yourself. You're not running a con, it's clear to any reasonable person. The internet is *always* going to have some bad faith criticism and some good faith criticism that is not actionable or just plain bad advice. You cannot please everyone, and you do not need to flagellate yourself for making a living. It's ok buddy.

Gary Butterfield

You do not owe us 100% of your time. Write fiction, do what makes you happy - and also make videos. I can only speak for myself, but I don't care about the frequency of the videos. Would I like more? Of course. It feels like I just got a gift in the mail anytime I see a new one in the subscription box. But I know that's only the case BECAUSE you put so much work and passion into them, take your time. You are by far my favorite creator on the website and your content is the type I want to see more of, that's why I contribute. As for the whole TLOU2 thing I don't really feel it's my place to comment on it as a cis person besides saying you did the right thing by acknowledging your mistake and what you can do is try to learn from it. I guess worst case scenario you could try hiring some help for the more technical aspects of video making if you feel like that would be fairer. Again, I urge you not to stop writing fiction because of us. Finally, I want to thank you for the hours of entertainment you have given us. It's truly helped shape how I interact with stories.

Otavio Albanesi

Those nagging doubts are an awful thing, aren't they? I will tell you now: You are not ripping me off, and the success you have is not a fluke. I love what you make. I give you $10 every month because I hope that it helps you to continue making more. Just keep 'Making', Noah. However long it takes, or whether it's videos or books. Just keep 'Making'

Ethan Hayes

Noah, I appreciate your honesty in what you've written (as is completely in line with the honesty you show in your videos), and as someone who has suffered from depression as well, I can understand that it is normal to feel unworthy of support or concern. I would hope that if you are not currently getting therapy, that some of this money could productively go toward getting therapy. There is nothing at all wrong with getting help when you need it -- that's what therapists are there for. You deserve to be happy and healthy, even if you feel like you don't; *everyone* deserves to be happy and healthy. The idea that any of us are being duped by you into supporting your channel is absolutely, positively, genuinely absurd. Nobody's being forced to be a patron. We're doing this because we love what you produce. And you're in a difficult industry -- YouTube pushes people toward short, snappy videos with bright colours and "smash that like button" style of self-promotion. You're doing long-form, honest, meaningful content, and we are your patrons because we see the value of this. You're swimming against the current, but in the process you are creating content that is unlike the majority of what's out there (in a good way). If there are people who don't feel they are "getting their money's worth", that's something for them to re-evaluate why they're giving you money. That's not on you. As far as your desire to write fiction, to learn to be a mechanic, etc....please remember that we don't own your life. You are now earning a livable wage, which is fantastic; just remember that most people earning an equivalent salary go to a 9-5 job and then come home and have free time. Obviously, artists don't follow a 9-5 schedule, but they have just as much of a right to have free time and do what they want. That's not "stealing money". Someone who feels trapped into working all the time is going to get burnt out and suffer in terms of mental health -- which, if you want to speak purely in economic terms, that's not good for the "shareholders" either. We're not your shareholders, but if you want to provide good value for the money you receive, that also means being happy to pursue the things that interest you. The two work together, not against each other. I know I'm just adding my comments to a pile of gigantic comments, but I hope you recognize that we all have a lot to say because we appreciate the work you do. Nobody's being held at gunpoint here; nobody's getting grifted; we all just want to see you thrive because we know that good content will come out of that process. We appreciate you :)

armoredkitten

If you made 1 good video a year, i would still pay you. Ultimately, i spend more on monster cans a month than i do on you in a year, and i actually like you. You have made my favourite vids on the platform, talked me to sleep more nights than not and shaped the way i view criticism. Everyone makes a few duds as a creative over the course of nearly a decade; but remember you make so many more brilliant videos than subpar ones.

Amber Dixon

Hi Noah, I dunno if you read all of these but I figured I'd add my voice. You've made some comments about your perception of your own production values and your trouble justifying your current income with your production. So here's my thoughts, for what it's worth: I didn't subscribe to your patreon because I think of you as some sort of stock portfolio, something that will increase in value over time to maximize some sort of return. I donated because I thought your stuff had value already. I thought the things you made were ALREADY good and worth watching. And you aren't beholden to me, you can create what you wish. That's part of what makes patreon appealing to me; the artist can make things in their own time with their own security. I'm not donating my life savings here, you aren't making me live on the street just cause I appear in the list of patrons. You are already generous and have went above and beyond with your willingness to refund people. $5000/month is a lot of money, but maybe that reflects more what people actually think your thoughts are worth. If you are truly uncomfortable with the amounts that you make, then there's always charities or something, I guess. But, here's the thing. The patron donated to you. That was their decision. That was their responsibility. You have always been transparent about your own output and creative processes, and it's not your responsibility to worry about WHY a patron donated. That's their concern. Don't shoulder responsibilities that aren't yours to bear; acknowledging the patron and continuing what you've continued to do is more then enough. Stay safe and know that people appreciate what you do.

Mark Hunter-Owega

$5000 a month is not excessive. you dont have to be a starving artist to make meaningful art

John Fry

So, Noah, this isn't anything new, but this does come from a very new Patron, so maybe this will help, somewhat. I signed up to donate understanding, and having looked at, your output schedule. I signed up knowing exactly the quality and type of content you do, and that is is and can be something of an eclectic mix. I signed up knowing exactly the kinds of scripts you write, and quality of your audio and video. I sighed up with my eyes open, knowing all of that. It's there for all to see--no one can be "scammed" by you, when everything you do is right there all out in the open for people to see. Here's what I didn't sign up for: I didn't sign up to make you beholden to me. I didn't sign up with an expectation of a specific schedule of content (if I ever become unhappy with your schedule of content, I would simply withdraw my pledge--but given the quality of what you produce, it would have to be a huge amount of time.) I didn't sign up to put pressure on you to create in a certain timeframe, in a certain way. I signed up 1) because I think your content is worth something, and that that deserves financial acknowledgement, and most importantly, 2) because I wanted to give you the breathing room to do exactly what you're asking for in this post. I signed up so that you have the freedom to follow your nose, create what feels right, and then share that creation with us, in whatever form that takes--a video, a travellog, a novel, a fucking symphony, I don't care. I am here for you, the creator, to give you the freedom to create. That is what a "patron" is in the traditional sense, after all, isn't it? Someone who helps give an artist the freedom and space to do their art. That's all I've ever wanted for my $10. I don't know if you're a fan of Joseph Campbell like I am, sir, but I am really, really a fan. He has a phrase: "follow your bliss." All I want from you, as your patron, is for you to do exactly that. Follow your bliss, and share the fruit of what you find along the road with us when the time feels right. You are blessed to have that freedom, and I couldn't be happier for you. Don't feel bad about it. Embrace it. We love you, Noah. That's not going to change.

SoldierHawk

I wholeheartedly echo what theroadie451 said; we are not your employers, and I find the idea that there's a way to fire you as a creative kind of repulsive. If you're feeling more financially secure, DO WHAT BRINGS YOU JOY. We don't own you or your time. Our contributions are not a contract, and though I understand how you can get the feeling that you owe us output, that is corporatism not patronage. Yeah, some people may drop support if your output lowers, but so long as you're able to get by and find happiness then that the system finding a new equilibrium. Also, it's a global pandemic: depression is widespread and productivity is down the drain. It's OKAY to not be as creative, efficient, or professional as you want to be. No one is right now. Finally, a few suggestions. Turn off comments, or don't look at them. YouTube comments are a vile swamp that bring out the worst in people. There's little happiness to be found there. Also, if you want to improve aspects of your videos that are more technical and involve areas you don't care about, why not bring on someone to help out with the technical side? Most channels and podcasts have at least one person with more technical skills on staff. It's just another way to let you focus on what is most interesting and joyful for you. If you're really feeling guilty for not releasing something, some creators on Patreon do turn off contributions for a month when they're preoccupied with something else or utilize pay per release models. I really don't encourage this if it'll add any financial stress to your life, but there are some tools available on the platform. Best wishes man.

Gabriel Sorrel

I’ve been an on and off patron for years (for financial reasons) and have seen every single video you’ve released, since I found your channel in 2015. Throughout that time, I have been more than pleased with the quality and quantity of your videos. Never have I been upset at the frequency of your releases, because your process is your process. I’m a patron because I want you to be able to make videos the way you want and release them when you want. You’re a good person, Noah. TLOU2 video was a stumble, but we’re all allowed to make mistakes. We just have to learn from those mistakes and it seems obvious to me that you are (even though it is often a painful process). You don’t need the money like you did when you were at the pizza place but I want you to have it. I hope you to use it on whatever the hell you please. Use it for travel, use it for videos, use it for your ASE certification. I want to support your work, regardless its form. And I cannot wait to read that novel some day.

Rebweeb

The idea that you've scammed your patrons is laughable. Anyone who's watch one of your videos knows what they're signing up for. It sounds like some of your patrons feel like their contribution means that you must dedicate all of your time to making content for them. This is a pretty unhealthy mentality, boundaries are healthy. If all of your work time is dedicated to videos, what qualifies as a 'fair' amount of your time to dedicate to that work? E.g. 40hrs./week is just an arbitrary number. That kind of slippery slope leads to work consuming your life. I'm happy if you're spending my Patreon contribution writing a novel or working on other projects; my contribution is to support your creative work.

Michael Apfelbeck

Many have already written heartfelt appreciations of your channel and content. I'll reaffirm all of those statements, but I also want to add this. I am an adult. I make my own decisions about how to spend my money. I love that Patreon gives me the ability to support and reward artists and projects that I value directly rather than watching adds I don't like or buying tee shirts and tchotchkes I don't need. And I do that based on the art I've already appreciated. I'm happy to support the next round, but I've already received value for my money. If the quality or direction of the future art no longer exites me I will cancel or adjust my subscription in good faith. I did that just a month ago with a major channel that I support; thanked them for all the past work that I loved, told them I'm glad that they're happy with their new direction and that they had an audience even if it wasn't for me and ended my term as a supporter in good faith, feeling that everything worked out as it was supposed to. Managing one's subscriptions like that is the responsibility of every supporter on patreon, not of the creators they support. Conceivably one could run a patreon that operates in bad faith or more murky waters. If the content was targetted at children - yours isn't. If the creator explicitly begged for donations claiming great need - you don't. If a creator _explicitly_ promised certain content at a certain frequency - you don't. You go above and beyond to have mature and open communication with your supporters. You aren't beholden to us for anything; if we decide that your work no longer aligns with our interests we are free to adjust are support and nobody should feel guilty on either side.

Ethan Van Andel

Everything you've said just reaffirms why you remain one of my favorite video authors and creators in any medium. Is it too much here to say that your videos, both the new ones and the old ones, the ones I've watched ten times or more already, have been a source of comfort during the pandemic? I have watched them and listened to them while I work, and sometimes just to wind down. Whether it's too much to say or not, it's true for me. I've been delighted and impressed with your new works because you've taken on a lot of new things with gusto and enthusiasm - being able to discuss console games, for example, is an awesome improvement and has opened you up to whole new aspects of the field. I've loved that growth. If my support helps you continue to grow as a creator, I am happy about that. I was excited to see you had published a video about The Last Of Us only days after I had finished Part 2, and you justified that feeling with your usual thoughtful approach and open attitude about it. I understand why you feel you made a mistake, but recognize that you also owned it, apologized for it, and tried to make up for it - that's more than many would do and it's the best any of us can do. As a whole that video was more thoughtful and more original than the vast majority of criticism of that game at that time, and I was not disappointed in the least. You should be proud of what you did there and I hope that someday you can watch it again and see it that way. If my support can help you continue making that caliber of content, I am proud to do so. Depression is crippling and awful and I admire how you have gone forward and made brilliant videos anyway. My daughter and I were just talking last night about how depression makes even the simplest choices seem impossible. You deserve so much credit for overcoming that. If my support can help to find a way to heal and learn to live with it better, I am humbled to be able to help in that way. And if my support helps you find a away to write a book?? Well, damn...I would be chuffed beyond words for that, and I would read the hell out if it. Thank you for being honest with us, Noah. Thank you for creating unique, nuanced, thoughtful, original videos that I've enjoyed even more lately than I have before. Thank you for everything you do and I hope you keep doing it in a way that feels right for you. Whatever that ends up looking like, I'll be here for it.

Rich Stoehr

I'm in a creative job where I certainly am used to going along false trails, getting tangled up, and feeling terrible because the work doesn't come out fast enough (and unfortunately, in my case, I only get paid when it comes out). But I want to say: I very, very much do not want *more* content. I am drowning in a bloody sea of content. There is way, way too much content already out there. Take your time, and produce those three hour video epics that only come out every so often, but which are must watch TV for me. Seriously, I would be completely happy just seeing something like ten hours of content a year. So don't worry about the gaps, and trust your own ability, because you are good at producing the sort of story telling that your audience really, really enjoys.

Timothy Underwood

These are very good points. I for one take issue with referring to Patreon contributions as "donations". I think this is very much the wrong word. Noah refers to 'donations' repeatedly in his post, and it makes it sound as if he's sitting on a street corner, holding out a hat for kindly strangers to throw him a couple of coins as he shouts out gaming analysis as they hurry past. Noah is a talented professional essayist, whose monthly income comes from 940+ individual people making their own individual contributions. When I buy a book, I don't consider that I have "donated" to the author. When I buy an album, I'm not usually "supporting" the band. In both cases I am primarily buying something I want, and doing it for me. I don't see Patreon as very different to that. That's not to say that there isn't some aspect of wanting to support a person or a company. I've often read talk about "supporting smaller game studios", and have said the words myself. On Patreon I'm far more likely to contribute to a small YouTuber starting out than I am to one already making 5 or 6 figures a month. But even then, it's not charity. I think Noah's self-worth might be so tenuous that he genuinely thinks that a lot of people are supporting him out of pity and charity, and not because he's a talented writer who has enriched their lives. That's really sad, and something I hope he's able to see past in time. Others have commented that perhaps he needs some outside perspective on his work, and I agree. Meaning a close friend or family member, someone who could be a manager, and see things more objectively than perhaps he can at the moment. Someone who can point out that people aren't paying him money out of pity, and that perhaps he should stop encouraging them to cancel their patronage :)

TheBloke

So what is good level of engagement in the internet age anyway? I am at fault for internalizing the idea that content creators want nothing to do with their base due to the fact that it is very impersonal relationship and fans can be invasive. I have bought and played games purely on what you have picked as a topic of discussion at times, and times used your reviews of a game as a means to skip buying something. So I guess we affect each others lives and ... what else can happen. In a funny way, is it depowering for mass of patreons to "dictate the value of your service"? Would it actually be easier or harder to measure that if single person was thine patreon instead of these masses? I gotta admit, I do want see videos from you, in that pure way that I like what you have done and want more. I cannot think deeper on the subject.

S.Envall

TL;DR: There is nothing insightful nor revolutionary in the below comment. Everything I'll say here has been already said by the 100 people before me. Let me take you up on your offer, since you wanted to know what your subscribers think about the way the channel is heading. So here's a quick list of my personal wants: - I would want to have 1 video per month. If that is too much to ask and would make the quality suffer - I'll settle for 9 videos per year. But even if it's just 1 video per quarter - I'll still be satisfied. - I would want you to cover game X (intentionally not specified). But I know you will do it eventually if it generates a good enough script. So I'm happy to wait for it. - I take note of the improvement in the production values. It is well appreciated. - I haven't noticed the improvement in writing - cause I always deemed it stellar. So to sum it up - I am happy with my pledge and the current direction the channel is heading. I solemnly swear to downgrade or disable my pledge whenever either the channel's direction or my financial wellbeing should necessitate it. - Wanna stream car repairs on Twitch? Sure. Just make it a wordy philosophical diatribe and musing on whatever topic the broken clutch inspires in you. Do that and take my money. Now for the meaty bits. - The comment you cite is probably the single most crass and vitriol-filled thing you found in the comment section of your videos. It must have taken days to dig up this gem of a turd. I advise you to read more into what your actual supporters tell you. - Crossing paths with any intersectional topic will always, inevitably lead to someone being offended and verbalize said offense with malicious disdain for other people - even while projecting said disdain onto you. It is the current state of the union and there's nothing that can be done about it other than ignore the radical fringe. The same way that trans people don't have to apologize for being trans - you don't have to apologize of having your own opinion on their representation in media. I disagree with you a lot on this, but respect your opinion. And that minimal ounce of respect is something that you have given many times and thus should expect from others. I would want to see your channel grow. I would want to see you hire an editor to take the menial side of things off your shoulders. I would want to see you partner with GOG as a cross-promotional deal where you review the games you want and they make a Noah-themed sale on said games while promoting your channel. I would want you to be able to interview the developers whenever you want to get direct insights on specific topics that you had to infer before. BUT - that is just the direction I envision. With this being your platform - my opinion on this is invalid by definition. And finally - you might consider the fact that you're being paid a professional's wage as an indicator of you actually becoming a professional. Not a professional editor, nor a gamer. A professional critic and writer. Because - at the end of the day - all the comments I see here say one thing: Production is passable. Writing is godlike. Give us more writing. So go ahead - write the book - and then make it an Audible special or something :D

SGResponse

Noah, Like many others have already said, I love your work for what it is. I have no problems with your process, how long it takes for a video to come out, or how "well" you play (which is just an extremely silly thing for anyone to complain about). I am not personally as interested in your automotive repair or travelogue content, but I am also very happy to support your creation of that as well. If I felt like you were no longer worth supporting, I wouldn't support you. I would also like to say that it's important to remember that your Patreon supporters are not your employers or your investors, they are your patrons. You are not under an obligation to produce work at a level of quality that's "equal" to the amount of support you are receiving. The entire point of patronage is to remove financial burdens that get in the way of you making art. Furthermore, your time and money are still yours. You absolutely do not need to feel like every second of your day or every penny you earn from Patreon need to be reinvested in making videos. If you want to pursue personal projects, you should. You are not stealing money from your patrons by doing so, because again, your patrons are not your employers. I for one, would be happy to know that you are pursuing your own passions and growing as a person. I appreciate you reaching out like this, and I appreciate how hard it was to do. I will continue to support you as I always have, and I have no additional expectations. I wish you all the best.

Jeremy Herrera

I've been donating to you for years and have exactly 0 regrets doing so. I think the production values of your videos is a part of the charm your channel has. You actually made me reexamine what makes a good youtube channel. Your strengths are in your writing and your voice and really what would more frenetic, involved video editing do to improve that? Breathing in the mic isn't really a strength per se, but it's elements like that gives your channel a low key air of authenticity. I don't care about what expectations people have about what they consider "quality" youtube videos, i started donating to you because I loved what you were already doing. Sure, improve yourself, why not? But I'm not on board with the paternalistic motivations for donating i.e. giving you money so you can become a better audio engineer or whatever. You're miles away from the audio quality of the Fallout: New Vegas section of your retrospective, and that's good enough for me. Keep doing what you love and take as much time as you need to do it. No one owns all your waking hours so I am especially ok with you living a life outside of making youtube videos with your income. I sincerely hope most of your patreons feel the same

Jeffrey McIntyre

Dude, there's so much here and the kind of courage it takes to air these concerns in such a frank and honest way is mind boggling to me. Wish I had something truly inspirational or insightful to say, but the best I can come up with is that I pledge to you because your content makes me happy. You, along with others like Super Eyepatch Wolf and Foxcade, are what inspired me to start up my blog (which I've always been feeling weird about not producing content for) and I've rewatched a lot of your videos multiple times over. They may not be as "professional" as other channels, but stuff like the handwritten title cards, the pauses in your voiceover, even the coughs, they make your work feel so human. There's a personality and soul to your videos that I haven't seen anywhere else. Your videos feel like something that could only be done by you and that's why I'm more than happy to give you money each month and let you take your time to create content at your own pace. Furthermore, if you want to learn to be an engineer or write fiction, then I say do it. Don't let anyone, especially your audience, keep you from branching out and trying other things. I know it's hard to not let the negative voices outweigh the positives and how difficult it can be to tell what's helpful criticism and what's bad faith. Wish I had some kind of advice, but I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate the same problem. I suppose what I'm trying to say is: Take care of yourself. Your videos have helped me through some tough times and I can't rightly put into words how grateful I am for that.

The7thDraconian

Hi Noah. I joined your patron just now and wanted to leave a comment. I've been a fan of your videos pretty much since the beginning, having watched you since your first video, the fallout retrospective, was linked by someone on some post on the fallout wiki which I was somewhat active on during high school. Lots of people have already left comments talking about how they like your videos and what they get from them, so I'll skip that. My comment may come off as abrasive but I hope it is understood that I respect you and support you and your work. I'm sure this will do nothing to help your agonizing over whether you are meeting expectations and whether you are good enough and all that, but I just wanted to say that personally what I find off putting is not opinions I disagree with or you coughing for a second during a recording take, but rather I find frustrating the notion that One, the relationship between patron/supporter and video producer is transactional and Two, that you have the ability/position to scam me or others for patron money. I think maybe your experience (a similar one to mine) with hourly wage jobs has had a negative effect on your view of your patreon. I'm just offering my opinion here but I've always seen patreon as strictly a thing to do provide support to someone who is producing work I appreciate. This support is voluntary. You have not been hired by me or any of your other patrons, we are not your shareholders. I support the people I support because I like their work and want to see them do well. I do not expect a return on investment or any other ghoulish owner class shit like that (although that being said, the quality of your videos has greatly improved). Frankly, I find the notion that you have scammed your patrons (or even the idea you could scam them if you wanted to) pretty silly, and honestly kind of insulting. While obviously it is not your intention or the intention of anyone else who might suggest it, to me it subtly implies that I/we are just dupes waiting to get had by some wily content creator rather than discerning self-aware individuals who choose to give monetary support as we wish, and can retract that support at any time for any reason. Your desire to produce content of a quality and quantity that is commensurate to the amount of patron money you receive is admirable but misguided. You are not being paid a wage and you are not being assigned shifts to work. Finally I would just offer the idea that while I am very appreciative of how hard you try to measure up to the support you receive, sometimes I think you go a little overboard on the self-flagellation (great, more for you to worry about eh lol). As far as I am concerned, you are already very generous on your policy of refunding patrons, which by the way is something I've not seen other producers do (not that I read through hundreds of patreons but whatever). We are adults, we are self aware, we know that we can retract our support whenever we want, and you have already made clear numerous times that people shouldn't feel obligated to continue giving financial support. However there is a point at which you stressing how much people should stop supporting if they cant or don't want to stops being endearing and starts being frustrating. I'm sure I gave you a few more things to worry about with my comment but oh well, I hope it comes across that I mean it supportively. Lots of people have said you should give yourself a break. I'll just add onto that you should give yourself a break for our sake as well as yours lol.

theroadie451

Definitely don't hit yourself so hard, man. I pledged to your videos because I like listening to you talk, I listen to you at work and out of all the YouTubers I subscribe to you're the only one who I give money to at the moment because you have such a unique and insightful take on anything you put your pen to. I'm not chomping at the bit for you to upgrade technically; what you do is good enough for me, and it sounds like it's the same for a lot of others. As for 'getting my money's worth', I don't particularly see this as transactional; otherwise I'd pledge at a higher tier to hear my name said or something. I want to keep giving you my money because I consistently revisit your content. I've probably rewatched your Clive Barker video ten or more times. I'll probably rewatch your RDR video again this week, and your Dead Space again sometime soon. Provided you don't nuke your channel, I'll keep on this pledge because I like your work, and I jumped onto this to support you doing what you want. Which apparently includes you writing a book? SO GET ON THAT!

AtomicBanana

You're making excellent videos and I'm happy to support you. I feel like using patreon money to learn unrelated skills and/or projects is fine. If you feel like some parts of your work are lacking and you don't see the way to improve those parts solo, you could probably hire someone who can do that, or at least show you how to do it.

Shieldwall

Hey Noah, I have never had a problem with your process. And, frankly, one thing that I enjoy about the behemoth video essays that you make is that they feel so lived in. There's an intense familiarity with the source material that seems almost inaccessible from the outside, but which you use as a means to find backwoods routes between your points. I think this pensive quality is what makes me love your videos most. Perhaps there is a fault in your process, but as a patron, I see nothing beyond an artist making art.

Alex Hansen

To me, you are the single best commentator on video games on Youtube: The depth of your analysis, the care you put into really teasing apart every facet of the game and its history, and the length of videos you're willing to put out (which run counter to what Youtube algorithms favor) are why I backed you initially. But you're such a talented creator that I'm fine giving you money to pursue whatever you want. I have had z e r o interest in cars over my life, but if there's someone who could possibly get me interested, you're one of those people. The content you've made and I regularly consume and re-consume has brought me so much joy and such a deeper understanding of some games I love and wanted to know more about that I genuinely just want to support you doing awesome stuff, whatever that winds up being. Also, I think it's actually amazing you make so much now, because financial freedom relieves a TON of societal pressure off of people, and I like helping make sure my favorite creators DON'T have to compromise by finding a part time job or scrambling to make ends meet. It's part of why I pledge to creators, because I believe deeply in their works and want them to succeed, no matter how wildly.

Evan Barnett

Quality takes time, and yours is the top. I don't believe it'd be possible to make videos faster without compromising why we all come to your channel. The background you bring to each project, the thorough exploration of subject material is no different from the more normative research that I expect from other channels I am a patron of. As to what happened with TLOU 2- I think you'd benefit with a stop by Natalie Wynn's channel on youtube, contrapoints. She made a vid 8 months ago, and while the parallels aren't the same, I feel her explanation of how trans people generally have to come out swinging to even just stay alive might help. Generally though- you visibly and openly admitted where you saw that you'd made a mistake, and took corrective action immediately. There's nothing more anyone can do after that when it comes to a mistake. As to your fiction writing poll- I'm a patron here because a now bald British man whose work I also patronize said that you were the best. I watch and read a lot of critiques, analyses, and reviews, and while I don't agree with everything you say, I think you get a lot of stuff right that counts. Your wide background as well as some practically unique perspectives you've gotten from your support on patreon put your work a step above. That's why I not only don't mind, I would be happy to see you go and get your ASE certification. Is it strange to expect that a course in automotive repair would improve your quality as a creator? Perhaps. Maybe it won't do a darn thing, but the last time you fixed up a car we got four of the best travelogues I've ever seen. Maybe you'll come across some other form of inspiration while you're in school. You should probably set some time aside for that writing as well. I guess in the end what I'm saying is as long as the quality of the ideas you're coming out with doesn't drop, there's no reason I'll stop being a patron.

Arthur Freyn

To add another voice to the chorus here, I also appreciate the work that you put in here. What you provide that's so unique among commentators is identifying and exploring what makes a game _interesting_ (along with an excellent one liner now and then :P). And we all know that being reminded not to stare down the well has not a lick of impact on the compulsion to do so when dealing with depression (glob knows that my version of this is listening to your content when I should be dealing with my own work because it's difficult to face), but beating yourself up over what some people may perceive as the Patreon Contract here is unnecessary. Plenty of people are quite happy with what you do and how you choose to do it (see: every single other comment here) and if they weren't they'd already be letting you know by having unsubscribed already. But if it helps to make the contract explicit then do what you think is best; transparency has never been a bad thing. Cheers :). Looking forward to the next videos, whatever they are.

Sean Hansen

Jesus, we are some verbose motherfuckers.

Jimbo

I just wanted to lend my voice to the chorus. We're all here because we like your videos. I could go on and on about how good they are, like I have to when I'm trying to convince a friend to watch a 3 hour video of you in a bus, but I won't. Suffice it to say I enjoy your videos, and have grown to enjoy your sporadic output (which probably still rivals in volume people who put out multiple shorter videos in the same timespan). So I'm happy to chip in a couple dollars a month to keep them going. It's not a big deal, and most of what I want is that you can stay in a position where you can keep making stuff. Others have suggested this, but if you're feeling anxious about what we (the masses) think is taking so long, monthly or bi-weekly updates would be fine. Just a short note, "Writing X, editing Y, doing car stuff at link". A little bit of transparency is never unwarranted. Finally, you game stuff is great and why I first subscribed to your patreon. But those bus videos are special, I love travel writing and your videos are a great translation of that genre to video. No one can hold it against you that you've not gone out to travel amongst all of *this*, but I sincerely hope you can make more when there isn't a deadly pandemic running out of control.

Alex

When I say your videos are life-changing, I want you to understand that I mean it. I reckon it's been years since you worked on it, but your analysis of tyranny made me think long and hard about the parasocial relationships in my own life in ways that the regular game hasn't - mainly because I have no patience for tactical combat games and too much pride to go down to easy mode. I don't know exactly what your worst critics have said to you, and I'm glad you recognize that a lot of it IS in bad faith. Unfortunately, the partial anonymity of the internet makes it easy for dialogue to break down. I applaud your willingness to engage with all your critics, but remember that there are times when criticism is neither true, nor useful, nor eloquently said. My only suggestion, and you would know better than anyone if it would work, would be this: have you considered adding an additional editor to your projects? I reckon there are certain people you bounce ideas off of, and you are right to be selective to maintain your creative voice. Still, if you're worried about putting a lot of work into a series that might not pan out, perhaps this person could help you decide what the video will need to be completed, or to help you recognize and accept that it's a project best left for another day? It's not easy finding such a person, especially if you are working with others behind the scenes and want to make sure everyone gets along. Lastly, I support you diversifying your content with more travelogues and educational videos about car maintenance!

Megabyte01

As a relatively new patron, I just want to go on record as saying I absolutely *do not* view it as a transactional nature ("Here's $10. Where's my video?"). I've watched enough of your back catalog - "Old School Road Trip" is a favorite - to have some idea of what your video content is going to be like and I give my $10 willingly to help you make that happen however you see fit. There are thousands of other YouTube game channels out there where I can get PUBG or GTAV highlights and meme content, but only a handful of channels offering insightful analysis, with you and Jacob Geller being standouts. It is - without question - the *quality* of your content that has brought you a following. Which is not to say that I want you to stay in your lane and stick to video games. Far from it. I want you to write that book so I can pledge to the kickstarter when it's time to publish. I want you to pursue educational goals that enrich your life. If you never put up another video, I'd still consider a years pledges to be a bargain for the content *I've already consumed.* All of that being said, as a middle-aged white man I'm required by law to offer advice, solicited or not. You should consider that advice as not worth the ink it's written with unless it serves you. I will dispense that advice now: - You worry that you're getting too much money for the quality/quantity of content you produce. I think you may have hit critical mass and it's time to consider bringing in some production help. Nothing to change the "feel" of the channel - hand-drawn title cards and 8 track intros stay - but if you can offload, say, voiceover editing, then that frees up all of that time for writing or video generation/capture or even a night off without pushing your next video back any further. I can practically guarantee there's a Media Studies student over at COCC who would jump at the chance for a few hundred bucks a month and a big, shiny resume bullet. - Depression is an insidious bastard. Medication can help. Therapy can help. Medication and therapy combined can help a lot. If you can't make enough of your own neurotransmitters, store bought is fine. And even with all of that external help, sometimes it still hangs around. It's not a personal failing, and I don't think I've ever heard you mention it and thought "That bastards just milking it." or anything of the sort. It's real, and it doesn't care how much money you make. - No one gets it right 100% of the time. But I'm definitely one of the one or two people who enjoyed your God of War retrospective. I enjoyed the hell out of your Dead Space retrospective. I've watched your Read Dead Redemption II video 3 times and sent it to multiple people. Hell, I've even watched your Tom Clancy: Ghost Recon video like 5 times because it's such a great take on such a terrible game that it makes me want to go back and finish grinding my way through all the collectibles and content. I can't speak to the experiences of others, but I remember thinking that your LOU2 review was perceptive and nuanced and respectful of Lev as a character and a person. I watch your videos to get your analysis, not someone else's. I did also read other reviews, including several by trans authors, and took them all on their own merits. Your reviews can't be all things to all people, and you shouldn't beat yourself up because you can't hit that bar. But you're a decent person and you've done a solid job of not just listening to but also boosting the voices of those who take (legitimate) issue with your analyses. I'd much rather back someone who acknowledges when they don't get it right and works to foster discussion and understanding, than someone who just doesn't care. Or worse, someone who won't stand by what they said and pretend it never happened. As a fan, thank you for reaching out and giving us a peek behind the curtain. As a patron, keep doing what you're doing - and start doing things you want to do. My contribution is the socially distanced equivalent of buying you a couple of beers a month, which is a goddamned bargain.

Jimbo

I've used patron for years. I give to dozens of creators. When people are happy they give money. when they are not they stop. take the money and do whatever you want with it. Maybe you could make some post highlighting what you do with the extra money, who you donate to and support. there are lots of ways you could boost up other to make a difference in their live. You say you're paid to much but maybe you are under valuing other people's happiness. it's worth a lot.

Stefan Hayden

Noah, it's great that you have the self awareness to be critical and desire to provide a consistent quality product, but you're taking it too far! Go easy on yourself! I'm guessing the silent majority of your patrons are like myself, not expecting too much and overwhelmingly pleased with whatever content you produce! It's like nothing else out there. You have an important voice in the video game industry. Like many other commenters here, I get excited when I see you've dropped a new video -- even if its a game I've never heard of! You're critiques, analyses and insights are informative, entertaining, and even have an air of the philosophical to them! You aren't making Widgets, so please dont compare yourself to the average worker's output. Or even cashflow. A person makes what the market is willing to pay, and this is especially true with a pay structure like Patreon where pay and performance are determined directly by the 'customer'. Its not about quantity either - it's about quality and value. I dont mind waiting months for your videos, cuz I know when they drop they'll be great. Search within -- if you know that you're working at making something, and doing your best, then what more could anyone possibly ask of you?? Your heart seems to be in the absolute right place. I think your detractors/haters are largely the type of people who want something for nothing (or very little). But that not what creates unique ideas and content. As far as the video and audio quality goes, I dont think thats why anyone watches your videos! They could be produced in 360 low-definition and I'd still watch them! So dont stress over that, please. That's never been what youre channel has been about. Just do the best you can within reason, and focus your talents and creative juices where they are strongest. Regarding the travel and fiction writing -- please remember this is YOUR life. Do what YOU want to do. Yes, meet your obligations to the patrons, but don't overdo it. Schedule time for yourself and your interests, and prioritize accordingly. We can wait! You'll only produce your best content if you're happy. There's many people making far more money than you and I doing far less. This posting of yours shows your true colors, and makes me very proud to be a patron of yours. ; )

Chris Dobbs

Just wanna echo another comment and say that not only have I been consistently pleased with your output, but I was completely unaware that there was any kind of controversy going on about your videos. Specifically, the two you mentioned in this post, on God of War and the Last of Us, were two of my favorites you've made in the past few years. The GOW one in particular really felt like you understood on a visceral level what those early games were going for, that often get them dismissed for being too simple compared to contemporary action games. The Last of Us video you did was also a breath of fresh air, coming from someone completely outside the hype for either game, and I think it was handled tactfully. I of course can't speak for a community I'm not a part of feeling how they did about a character's handling, and in turn your reaction to it, but I will say that that group of people, like any, are not a concensus, and you may have only heard from one portion of those people. Not that that makes their feelings on the matter less valid, but that they aren't the entirety of the conversation. I may have a particular perspective on how your videos are formatted, but the production quality is frankly something I don't notice very much. As long as there's footage of the game that cuts around every so often, I'm content. I'm here for the writing and your delivery more than everything else combined. Know that there is a portion of your audience that feels like I do: as long as you take the time on your scripts and voice them the way you do, we're good. I also think looking at where most of the criticism you get is coming from is important. You talked about getting it bad on YouTube, but the comments on YouTube are usually pretty terrible, no matter what the video is. You also mentioned a Twitter poll, but that could be voted on by anyone who comes across it. What I'm saying is, have your Patrons ever expressed disappointment in your work in significant numbers? Not that outside critique doesn't have merit, but if the people paying for your content are happy, then I think you're doing just fine. Just wanna say you're easily my favorite video games critic, and that I'm more than happy to give you money every month for the fantastic work you do. If you feel like doing stuff on the side that's more than okay with me and I'm sure many others.

CJCW

Hello, long time patron, though I've gotten a new name pretty recently after realizing that was easy enough to do on patreon. I've been a patron to your channel since 2015, I actually created a patreon account because of your youtube video and appreciating your content so much which has lead to me on and off paying a handful of other artists and video essayists for their work. And that's come out of a genuine love for your work, and even though I've changed a good amount considering I am a woman now I still have an absolute massive love for your entire catalog of work. Depression is difficult, and the things that we tell ourselves about our worth, and how other people think about us because of depression is very difficult, I've very strong firsthand experience with it and know a little bit of where you're coming from on that. But the fact that you're concerned that you're a charlatan or a conman is a good sign, that you worry about these things, charlatans and conmen don't worry about their being part of the category. I think very highly of your work, it's the best analysis of story and themes of games in more or less any videos I think I've ever watched, at the very least unmatched in those that I enjoy watching, and I'm glad for the videos. Every time a new video goes out, I drop what I'm doing and watch it, sometimes dragging other people along if I happen to be socializing with some of my friends that would like the thing. Regardless, I can understand struggling at times to get the work done, depression is a thing that will bring you down and make things more difficult than they feel that they should be, and sometimes writing is just like that where you may need to hop between things to get something done. And that is part of the process and it is understandable, the output that you're currently doing is fine, and I don't think that you're a conman for doing so, you're a human working on the writing yourself and sometimes it becomes difficult and you must shift to another project for a bit and that's perfectly fine. Also, as patrons, we don't own 100% of your time, even if this was a traditional job we wouldn't own that much of your time. You have a responsibility to yourself to do the things that you think are going to help develop you personally, if you want an ASE certificate, I think that's a fine thing to have, and with the way that you've talked about cars throughout the years and in your review of Jalopy, I think that it's a great thing for you to do. And for personal writing, feeling satisfaction in writing personal works, will likely help you feel refreshed in doing the reviews as well, and I look forward to seeing a fiction book come out if the ideas roll around in the brain enough for it to get there. And doing both of these things, and developing yourself even more as a person, will give yourself a lot more avenues for creativity, as well as new insights to the things that you're already doing, which at the end of the day is for the best. Also, in regards to the Last of Us Part 2 thing, I think you're self flagellating a little bit too hard on it. I'm a transgender woman, have been out for going on two years this December, and our opinions on these topics are not a monolith. It is important to keep trans points of views in mind, especially on potentially sensitive topics, but your opinion in the video is valid and I appreciate it for what it's worth. While Lev has issues with representation, specifically with the constant deadnaming of him by the game, most transgender depictions in media has issues with representation, and there's so Little representation in games specifically that seeing Lev with a generally positive and sympathetic portrayal of transgender people in a game was nice for myself personally. And as a transgender person, hearing a person whose works I enjoy talk positively about Lev, and talking about how at the end of the day the transgender character in the game is more or less the moral center of the piece, is nice. And hearing cis people talk positively about transgender characters is good, it means that the representation is at least doing one thing correctly. And I know that potentially I break with what a lot of people like myself have said about the thing, but the point is that there's difference of thought even between us about the thing. You haven't immediately disappointed every single one of us, that's just not how it works. I've watched you make videos for years, and include thoughtful and sensitive sentiments towards trans people and our representation over that time, and I know that you're a decent person in regards to us, and aren't likely to be a person who pops off with a really shitty take that'll leave me feeling dysphoric. Because you won't. I listen to your videos frequently as comfort listens while I cuddle up with my girlfriend, or while I'm doing schoolwork, because I enjoy it all, and because I know that at the end of the day, you're sympathetic and I love your work. You have my support, and I appreciate you very much as an artist, please do what you can to take care of yourself, and please when you can look through all of the things that you want to do for self betterment, I think it'll make you feel more happy in general.

Lorelei EB

This is everything I wanted to say, said more eloquently than I could've - The only thing I would add is that not only can we stop paying at any time if we object to what you're making, but you offer refunds, which isn't something I see many creators offering with their Patreon. If this is a scam, Noah, then you're not doing it right. I donate because your writing has changed the way I look at specific games, games a whole, and - sometimes - fragments of my own life or personal philosophy. While video games are a significant interest for me, I donate because I want you to be free to create whatever you're passionate about. I donate because my impression of you is that you're a kind person who's serious about self-improvement - not even just professionally, but personally.

jobosno

Your videos are the highlight of the week sometimes even the month. I love the content so much and just how much thought and energy goes into these 90+ minutes that what I pay is more than worth it. For your fictional writing, if you included bi-weekly updates about how it’s going and released parts of it on Patreon, would that not help justify how much money you’re obtaining? If those 10% who call it theft when you do so left when you periodically say you’re doing fiction left, then would that not lower your income into a more comfortable region? It’s your life; we just want to support it.

KHMakerD

I’ve never been as eloquent as you but I’ll try my best. When I donate on Patreon, I’m donating as much to the person as I am to the work they produce. I believe people who are passionate and creative and empathetic who just want to make beautiful things, absolutely deserve to create those things without dealing with our capitalist hellhole, and my pledge is to alleviate that burden - to make the pithy phrase “if you love your work you won’t work another day in your life,” a reality. Thus I’m more than happy to give you the space and time to fully explore ideas and keep on giving us beautiful things, because I know that when you try to rush art, things start getting sloppy, and I’d rather wait for good and complete products than weekly or monthly videos that are poorly produced. But, I subscribed due to your early Mass Effect videos, so I definitely enjoy your writing and style very much. Edit: I’m a dumbass, I’m not even a patron. Well, luckily all the above still apply, and hell I’d be happy to donate if you needed the money.

Malcolm

Noah, hi. I understand you listening to negative feedback, because it's there, but the ratio of love vs ill will you receive is tremendously disproportionate towards the former! I've read the majority of the comments in this post and it's clear to everyone what is also clear to me: we love you. Take me, for instance: I live in Argentina and the currency doesn't favour me at all... Also, I'm jobless now because of the economic crisis brought by covid 19 and had to downgrade my subscription from 10 dollars to 1. Even though I miss hearing you pronounce my spanish name with your american accent, I really can't afford to give 10 dollars a month, more even so when dollar price in my country goes up every week. Yet, I didn't want to stop supporting you with what I can, and so I do. Why go to such lenghts? Because, just like everyone else has stated: your content is the best found on youtube. I don't care about the technical aspects, and never did. It truly feels conversational, and you've certaintly improved in every aspect of your work. Lastly, there's not a wrong way to play a game. Doom on console is still Doom, God of War has different difficulty levels to accomodate to different players, so the argument that you played it wrong is also invalid. Your opinion is valid and relevant because it speaks of your experience with a game and that's what we want to hear. You have nothing to prove to anyone, we are here for you. I feel and always have felt greatly rewarded for my support to your channel. (sorry if my english is not the best, I'm a little rusty :P )

Sebastian Pieroni

Noah, you need to realize one thing. Money is mostly abstract. People will pay you not what you think your work is worth, people pay you what *they* think your work is worth. Count yourself lucky, but dont see it as an obligation to us. Were also mostly rational adults here, if we felt like you're scamming us or that you didn't produce enough, it is very easy for us to not be a patron any longer. But it is clear that the majority of the people paying you like the way you do it. P.S: I actually like the lack of fidelity in your work. You're a guy whose great talent is that you can write what a lot of us think but cant put into words and that you have the balls and intellect to tie the medium of video games into a larger cultural context, unlike most other video essay creators who more often than not simply make extra long video game reviews. I dont care if your video editing skills are poor, your actual thoughts are so rich they more than make up for it. P.P.S: I also decided to subscribe after TLOU video, you might hate it but I enjoyed it immensely.

Spot

Noah, you're thinking too much. I give you less than a tenth of a percent of my income just because I feel that I owe you for the work you've already created. How you use it is up to you. You are the creator, it is your job to create. Not at any specific pace, not for any specific audience. I expect you to create content to your standards in your own time. Stressing out over whether I'm making my money's worth is only going to make the content suffer, and I don't want that. Personally, I only care about your video game content. I honestly still haven't watched your road trip videos, and I'm honestly not sure how much I'd care about car repair. But that doesn't matter. Do those things if those are the things that inspire you. I'm paying to support your ability to create, even if I don't always care for what you're making. There's no contract here. My funding isn't conditional. Please just take care of yourself and your family, and live your best life. If a few years go by and I don't have any interest in a single thing you've posted since, I'll adjust or cancel my funding as necessary, but right now, I'm fine continuing to pay what I'm paying even if it only means one short new video game essay every year or so, mingled in with whatever the hell else makes you happy to create. Just keep going and don't give up. Be you, be the best you, and be proud of it.

Rob Womble

Thank you for all the great work you do, Noah. I loved your video on The Last of Us Part II. After watching that video, I decided to financially support your channel. I've been watching your content for three years now. Even when I disagree with you, I still want to hear what you have to say. You are the best video game critic on Youtube, in my opinion. I'm sorry to hear that you struggle with depression. You made a very powerful point in your video on The Last of Us about how depression is a disease of perception. i struggled since my college years with depression and anxiety. Today I'm much better, but while I don't get depressed, I feel like I'm never good enough, that I'm not even average. What's helped me is realizing that I'm not alone. Don't let others define who you are. Keep up that great work, my friend, and take care of yourself.

Louie Lurati

Gilosan here - long time viewer and first-time commenter. Listen man, this self-flagellation is unnecessary. Your reviews have given me great pleasure over the years - I don't care how long it takes you to craft the damned things. I don't care about the production values or if you take months to put out a review on a game that I don't even care about - just keep going. I consider what you do an art form. Believe me, I know about art forms and how long it takes to produce ESPECIALLY during times of depression, anxiety and creative blocks. This year is extra crispy crazy! I don't fault you for that, in fact it makes me feel more of a kinship to your work than ever before - I consider you a friend and you have my support!

Gilosan

I'd so much rather you get occassional things wrong for the right reasons, than have you worry yourself to death to get everything right before saying anything. I've walked that path some, and it's filled with anxiety and second-guessing. As to feeling bad about doing OK during the pandemic, I think the value of what you're doing has actually gone up, some. We're all watching a lot of YouTube these days. Entertainment, stories, conversation; these are real needs. It's OK to be rewarded for filling that hole. Besides, if you ever feel you have too much, you can find some deserving soul to donate to, too.

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Why don’t you find yourself some great mental health services, not limited to your insurance network? Therapy twice a week is a good way to spend patreon money. Seems like you’re avoiding the real issue here, which is certainly not the money but your feelings.

Whitman Schorn

Noah, you are making something unique that strikes a chord with many of us. We are not here looking for perfection, in fact, I have a confession to make: I love to hear you talk about games, but I don't think I ever finished any of your videos, because my attention wanes after 30-60 minutes, and yet everytime I see a new video from you on my feed, I get excited, and I wouldn't dare to ask you to change your formula. From here on, like others, I'll be rambling based on my personal experience. It sounds like you have a ton of diverse ideas and you're not giving yourself permission to try them because someone disagrees. I'm willing to continue supporting you, because I want to see what else you can produce that has that unique flair of yours, and I bet I'm not the only supporter who feels that way. Some projects will fail, I don't know whether you expected your channel to get you this far, but you made it here, so you have what it takes. If money changes one thing is our willingness to take risk, we don't want the source to go away; one way that helps me avoid that is to split the pile into the amount that I need for my expenses, and the amount that I can afford to take larger risk on. In your context, investing that second pile into new creative endeavors has the potential of making your audience even happier (or more diverse), so I for one would like you to try that and I'm excited to see what could happen. Cheers.

Javier Kohen

Hey Noah, keep in mind, patreon supporters are supporting you over other Youtube content creators. In my instance, my $10 is because you are offering something they aren't. Let's be frank, it's not video quality and slick animations. You say you have deep internal concerns the video and audio quality isn't on par with those other Youtube accounts, but if that was what we wanted to support, we wouldn't be your patreons. We far more likely support you because of your script, analysis and narration, which is head and shoulders above others. I enjoy your take on the story of the games I love, I can't get that elsewhere. Maybe you're not a gaming god, but if I wanted that my $10 would be going towards Ninja, Faker or Shroud (not that they need the money either). I want you to continue to produce the videos you produce. Focus on the narration first, it's what you bring to the table more than anyone else. For sure continue to develop the technical side, but don't fret over it (and never stop with the handdrawn intros!). As far as the rest of the stuff, we don't own you. You're doing these videos full time through support, but last I checked full time isn't 24/7. I work full time, but in the end I am at work about 45ish hours a week. If you go with that analogy, as long as you are putting in somewhere in that realm of work, then you've fulfilled your responsibility as a fulltime content creator. The rest of your time could either be spent on your videos, or in school, or on writing or whatever you choose. It's like the "after 5pm" part of working a 9-5, not that I want you to feel like this is a grind. And no one expects the travel videos during this time, frankly they could be seen as kind of repugnant during this pandemic, unless it's old footage. But when you feel the time is right, I'd love to see a Fallout style video of the east coast (Freedom trail walk anyone?) In the end, if I weren't happy with your work, I'd be giving my $ somewhere else. You are offering something no one else is, and that's what I want to support. Thank you for the hours of content so far! Can't wait to see what you make in the coming days.

Evilbred

I'd like to add one more point: Your current count of 962 patrons from 140k YouTube subscribers (155:1) is a very high ratio, and your sum of $5720 per month from those 962 patrons ($6/Patron) is an incredibly high $/Patron amount. Looking around at some other gaming YouTubers, a common Subscriber:Patron ratio is 300:1, with $2-$4 per Patron a typical average. In other words, compared to similar YouTube Patreons, the people who watch your channel are twice as likely to become Patrons, and those that do contribute, contribute more. These numbers tell me that within that niche, your content is hugely appreciated, and considered to be special, or even unique. That's certainly how I feel: there really isn't much else like it on YouTube. In-depth, long-form gaming analysis is no longer unique as a concept, but your content, much of which really could be printed out and sold as a book of essays, truly is special. You are an extremely gifted writer and analyst, and I think that is a big part of why your audience are willing to contribute more to you than the audiences of other YouTubers, including other long-form creators. There simply is nothing else quite like it on YouTube. I say all of this to reinforce the point I made in my previous reply: please don't worry about whether you are 'worth' the money you receive. You are creating something truly special here, and these numbers only go to emphasise what I and others are telling you in these replies: we love your content and we consider our money incredibly well spent.

TheBloke

Anything that I give you I consider a donation, not a contract. You already have more than enough content to justify that. Giving you resources, even in the small amounts that most of us do, is a matter simply of wanting you to have resources, not wanting to pile on pressure. As to what I care about, as a patron: Your scripts. The footage is also great on the travel videos, but I don't tune in just to see pretty scenery; it's consistently enjoyable and informative to hear what you have to say. I've never thought much about video quality, or at all about audio quality. Your creative output means the most here. That means please, do write fiction too (I do, it helps), take moments for peace and curiosity. And as much as we all want to see more travel content, the idea of you doing out of obligation more than passion seems wrong both personally and artistically. I feel that I have, already, received far more from you than I've payed for. Thank you.

Evan

I'm a new patron. I signed up because I've enjoyed your output for years and wanted to financially support you _without strings attached_. Don't let other people dictate your content.

James Stevenson

Noah, I pay my money to do my bit to fund the development of the best content I have ever seen on YouTube. Each new video you produce is a joy, something I look forward to, and which I expect to watch repeatedly over the coming months and years. I have no expectations beyond that, and nor should anyone else. We do not own you, nor your time, nor can we have any expectation besides that which you describe in your Patreon profile. I think it says a lot about you as a person that you are so concerned and troubled by this. Assholes and charlatans are not troubled by the thought of whether they are assholes and charlatans. Only genuine, honest people get concerned with this. You are by every measure a genuine, honest and thoroughly decent person. It seems to me that the only person ever at risk of getting screwed over by your Patreon is you yourself, by putting such high expectations and demands on yourself, perhaps to the detriment of your mental health. It seems to me that Patreon is a very simple proposition: people pay a monthly sum to encourage the creation of more content that they enjoy. If they can no longer afford it, they will reduce or stop their payment. If the content no longer meets their expectations, or if they think some other creator would make better use of it, they will reduce or stop their payment. You talk about considering writing fiction, and then worry it might be 'theft'. What nonsense! First of all, no patron has any right to expect that they own 100% of your time. Even a traditional employer can't make that claim, and it certainly does not apply here. Patrons are paying money for content. If you are producing content then you are delivering on that promise. If someone feels it's not enough, then again they're free to stop paying, and that does not require you to hold yourself to some unspoken contract of working X hours per week on YouTube material. No such contract is specified on your Patreon profile. Besides which, you should take into account how happy it would make many patrons - myself included - to feel that we had played some small part in contributing towards your success outside of YouTube. If one day there is a Noah Gervais book on my shelf, I will feel honoured to have had a small part in enabling you to achieve the financial security necessary to start writing. Plus of course, I actually want to read that hypothetical book! If that book happens, it may in part be down to the fact that you were able to give up your menial job and dedicate yourself to art. So my Patreon contribution will have benefited me twice; directly, in the videos it enabled you to make, and indirectly, in that it enabled you to go on to make other work which I am certain I would also enjoy. I really think you should look around at how other YouTubers manage their Patreons and their commercial activities. I think you will find that many, even most of them, are seeking every financial opportunity they can, and don't think twice about pursuing other ventures on top of their Patreon work. And that their audiences don't mind that in the slightest. Perhaps one way to look at it is this: our Patreon contributions are going to the 'product' of Noah Gervais. They're not going towards specific targets of X videos in Y weeks, or Z hours spent on those videos. They're going towards funding you to be able to make content that we expect to enjoy. The specifics of that content creation is not our business. We don't own you or your time - individually we don't pay nearly enough for that. We contribute because we know that anything you put out, including hypothetical future novels or poems or essays or whatever you might want to create, is something we're likely to enjoy. That's my take. It won't be everyone's take. Some people really will think they're paying you for X videos a month. That's fine. If their needs are not being met, they can stop paying at any time. And I really don't think you need to stress over them. As many problems as there are with capitalism and free markets, I think it does work in a case like this. We'll keep paying as long as we feel we can a) afford to, and b) are getting value for that money. You don't need to worry about us. Please just take care of yourself. As an aside, have you ever thought about trying to build a community around your channel and Patreon? I'm thinking along the lines of a Discord server. Maybe it's not your thing, or perhaps it would just add to your worries. But I think if you ever did feel like setting that up, and creating a place where your fans and Patreons could talk to each other, maybe even say hello to you once in a while, you'd get a chance to see the sort of people who love your work. And it might help put your mind at rest a little about the value you create. Thanks again for all your wonderful content. It really is second-to-none, and worth every penny I spend.

TheBloke

Don't worry about it bud. Your videos are proof positive of video games having artistic merit.

Arik

Dear Noah, This is bullshit. You can't make too much money from making stuff that people appreciate – if people wants to give them their money it's on them, not you. If people feel that you're not producing according to expectation or that your quality has slipped it's on them to leave, not for you to apologize. F*ck the haters. Critique you should listen to, but not take to heart. Listen to constructive criticism and learn to ignore mean spirited bullshit. Remember that in the end this is _your_ channel, not your viewers. Everybody and their tastes grow and change with time. Some people will lose interest as they grow (and that's okay!) and you will steer the channel to wherever is the right place for you (and if that doesn't suit some people that's also okay!). You'll always be able to live with the fact that some people left because they got bored, but you'll never be able to live with yourself if you get bored of what you're doing. Depression sucks and I don't know what I can do or say except reminding you that I love your videos, no matter the production schedule. Your Youtube catalogue is among the best on the platform and it's that catalogue that I'm supporting with my money, not updates every XXth week, day or hour. Imposter syndrome is a real thing that many suffer from and the best way to handle it is to accept the fact that people love you for what you've done and are doing, not based on whether you live up to (probably unrealistic) standards you've set in your head or Do normal work weeks and release when it's done. It's enough for me and I'd wager it's enough for your fans. The last thing we want is you working yourself to death and us never getting another video. Anything but that. Sincerely, Marcus

Marcus Berg

I hope that you don't dismiss my comment as sycophantic babble because that's not what this comment is at all. Obviously you don't know me and you'll just have to take me at my word when I say it, but I almost always say exactly what I'm feeling no matter what. I think that you're simply being too hard on yourself. I do understand how you feel somewhat obligated to put out a certain amount or quality of content that you have crossed the $5,000 a month threshold. That's a hell of a lot more money than I make so it's hard to put myself in your shoes in that respect. However, you got to where you are by being consistent and the type of videos that you put out and the quality of the content. It's no secret that your videos aren't the most technically sophisticated or flashy but I honestly think that that works to your advantage. So many other channels feature the same hyper edited videos with obnoxious dubstep over 3D intros and professional sounding audio that sounds like it was recorded in a sound booth for a Disney animated movie. To me, those videos are soulless and samey. The lack of technical sophistication in your videos including the live video intros and some of the audio mistakes that are left in give it a real charm and real feeling. I mean all this unronically! The quality of your writing and your verbosity outshines any technical gaffes or lack of sophistication. Sure, there will be those people who mock you or otherwise drive you for one reason or another but that comes with the territory unfortunately. Just looking at the comment section of your videos and noting the lack of toxicity really speaks volumes about the type of audience that your content attracts. People who are yearning for something beyond surface level reviews of the latest video game and are seeking a deeper understanding of the content and life itself. You provide that and I think it's obvious that the vast majority of us love your content exactly the way it is, infrequency and flaws of it all!

Kyle Parliament

I feel you should definitely follow your nose and see where it leads. Who knows how your first book will turn out! If you have too much money now, allocate some for saving, be it for school or retirement. I don’t think you can go wrong with an auto mechanic career path these days, sounds like a good backup plan if it’s in pursuit of a passion.

John Johnson

I have too much to say without posting yet another paragraph on the wall, but, I make $11 USD/hour and I still feel like my $10/month is too little for how much I value your content, personality, and voice as a whole, even if I can't actually justify in my budget for supplying you anymore of my already limited excess funds. As someone with depression and ADHD, your output has always been inspiring and life affirming. If you decide to dedicate yourself to being a mechanic later on, fuck it, I'll still support you as much as I'm able to like I do now, because I know that you're living as true to yourself as you've always presented.

ke

I dunno that I can respond to everything you said in this post, but I’ll say this; I support people on Patreon bc I believe in their creativity in general, regardless of what sort of content they actually put out - and you’re no different.

Adam NH

Thank you Alex :) I didn't know that. All the more reason to support him if this is the main way I can help him continue in his endeavours.

liywjl

I also forgot to add, I myself have struggled with depression and anxiety for many, many years and am kind of shocked that someone viewed your comment as somehow exploitative? That part of the LoU2 analysis was the most emotionally resonant part for me, because as soon as you said it I though "Oh, shit. Noah is making a point about depression that only someone who actually experienced it would understand." I feel like there are an unfortunate minority of people who take the view that any time someone speaks about any mental problem ever that they are somehow using it as an excuse, or playing it up to manipulate people. It makes it hard to actually talk about these things with others and I often feel guilty bringing up my own experiences with others as a result. But I think that being able to acknowledge that depression does exist, and that just because someone seems well off doesn't mean that they are cured of it, is something that we all should be aware of. And in the context of TLoU2, a game which is primarily ABOUT mental health, being able to bring your own experiences to it is important to understand what the characters in the game are going through and why they act the way they do. I guess the point I'm trying to make is you shouldn't feel pressured not to discuss these topics that you personally relate to out of fear that some people may say some nonsense about how you are only bringing it up for pity or something. Being real these past few weeks have been really hard on me, the hardest in a while and oddly enough I actually kept thinking back to what you said in that video because it rings true to me. So to whoever it was that claimed that you mentioning depression and how it affects a persons thought process is some kind of manipulative tactic...well, it worked! I personally related to it, the horror! Don't let the hater comments get you down too much Noah, they are just an unfortunate reality of being a vocal figure. There are always going to be people who accuse others of having some kind of hidden agenda, especially someone who doesn't shy away from being overtly political and taking a stand on important issues. Which is also what makes you such a great critic. Remember what Ricky Nelson said "You can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself." Keep up the good work!

Kirk Furey

Noah usually doesn't have any commercial in his videos so you can still use the adblocker to your heart content.

Alexander Sundin

As someone who's into their second year of stand up comedy and who's fallen flat on their face in front of strangers voluntarily, publicly, and repeatedly, I really relate to what you're saying. Comics call the act of performing poorly "dying" for a reason. It feels so freaking wretched. And creating a healthy boundary between yourself and the audience is just plain hard. I'm not implying that you've performed badly or that I've felt cheated or let down by you. I haven't. Your channel is a real gem, and I feel lucky to have come across it. I just mean to note that humans are hardwired to be especially attuned to the negative judgments of other humans. To experience anxiety and self-doubt in the face of criticism, especially if you're in the public eye, is to be a person. Still, please don't forget that youtube and patreon remain incredibly strange and new ways to produce art. I doubt anyone knows the True and Definite Answer to how one ought to go about it. As for your Last of Us 2 vid - I'm nonbinary and, for my part, it's enough that you seem genuinely open to push-back and apologize when needed without invalidating the feelings and experiences of your trans supporters. Ally-ship is a journey after all. I hope you keep on doing what you're doing, Noah, as often and as for long as makes you happy and gives you satisfaction. And thanks for doing it, by the way :)

Jay Arroyo

Hey Noah my man! It's me Alex, your long time Patreon supporter. First of you do deserve the success you've gain. Don't let your head tell you otherwise. Second I think you should consider hire a editor of some sort. Since that seem to be your heaviest timesink and also what you seemingly enjoy the least (who could blame you editing is suuuuuper boring, speaking from one with education in film) a hired editor would relieve you with that burden and you can do what you enjoy the most; play the games, writing the script and novel, mess around with the car (sadly travelling has to wait). Try it out for a couple of months at least. If it doesn't work then try another editor or scrap the idea entirely. Just keep the DIY feeling however, it's charming as all hell. And yeah don't even think about stopping your writing that novel of yours. I would love to read that stuff. I think all of us can agree that is your writing that we are here for the most part, not your editing or 'l33t gaming skillz yo'. Since it take a hell of long time writing a novel (and many MANY rewrites) I encourages you to keep write that as soon you feel the urge for doing so. I would also here by volunteer in becoming a test-reader ^_^ And you should get that ASE certification. We all know that youtube (and therefore by proxy Patreon in some extent) will not be here forever. I would be surprised that if it even got 15 more years. So you get yourself that certification and become a regular working man like the rest of us chumps. And when there are better times you should take up on travel again. I think was healthy for you and yours. Maybe one day you'll find yourself over the pond and visit Europe and Scandinavia, I'll be your personal guide. Take care now

Alexander Sundin

For me the reason I decided to support your channel wasn't just because I enjoyed your content (and I do enjoy it very much!) but also because I could relate to your life a whole lot. Before I found your channel I spent the summer of 2019 doing a solo road trip across the United States, most of the time spent out west. I didn't have a fancy car. A 2002 Honda Civic that was dented, the most fancy thing about it being that it had a cassette player. I had no real plan for the trip, I took off from Denver and traveled through Colorado, Utah, Nevada (which was like driving through hell itself), Arizona, New Mexico making many different stops along the way. Visited Vegas, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tombstone, Sante Fe, and many more scattered small towns and parks. Lots of hiking through some gorgeous natural scenery, and sleeping in my car and the occasional dingy motel. I ended up driving across the country all the way to Boston to visit family, and finally up to Maine to visit a friend there. Afterwards I settled down as I was burnt out on driving for a while and it was around this time that I discovered your channel. I was drawn in not just by the quality of your commentary, but also how much I could relate to your experiences out west, having to figure out life on the road, and your fascination with the American landscape. I quickly fell in love with your channel, and related a lot to your other experiences too working in the food industry. I decided to become a patron recently because hell, I see too much of myself in you not to and out of all the different Youtubers I watch, you are the one I most want to support. I find it so odd that you believe that your quality has since gone down, as I simply don't see that at all. I loved your Red Dead video so much that despite its length, I have rewatched it in full at least 3 times just because I enjoyed the commentary so much for each of the games. Same for your Last of Us 2 video which I really, really hope you do not take down. Although I can't really comment on the Lev aspect, I found your analysis to be such a breath of fresh air, and I've recommended it to others as being the most thorough and mature critique of the game that I've come across. As for your channels style, one of the big appeals for me and a lot of people is how old school it feels. No fancy editing, no obnoxious clickbait titles and thumbnails. The commentary stands on it own, with no gimmicks or sensationalism. I guess the point I'm trying to make with all this is that I don't feel like I'm being "ripped off". I don't mind waiting months between videos, and I haven't felt like there has been any decline in quality at all. I understand the position you are in and how you might feel undeserving, I probably would feel the same way too, but we support you for a reason. I feel like the content you provide and the many hours of enjoyment you have given me (especially during lockdown) has earned it. And if it makes you feel any better, you are providing the internet with much more interesting and valuable content than anything that Bell Delphine produces, and I guarantee that you are making much, much, much less money than she is. Thank you Noah, and I hope that someday I will pass your bus on a desert road somewhere!

Kirk Furey

I don't think I'll be able to change your perception of how much your work is worth, or how much is "too much," but just for the record: Your current patreon income would put you below virtually any staff writer at any unionized games website. That's BEFORE you factor in: -Patreon's cut -Freelance taxes -Healthcare, retirement, severance, other benefits that are considered standard but we don't get -Actual designated vacation time That's on top of the fact that even those writers make far less than their non-game-focused colleagues in the same industry. There are many, many people who make far more money while positively touching the lives of far fewer people.

Jacob Geller

Hi Noah, just wanted to say that when I support somebody on patreon I don't view it like a transaction where I'm buying videos from you or paying to improve their quality or frequency. I do not enjoy your videos on the express condition that you edit out every time you breathe. To me, patreon support is a way of saying that the videos you make (and upload for free) mean a lot to me and trying to find a way to give back what I feel I have gotten out of them. Your work continues to inspire me and I feel that your success shows that others feel the same way.

Kyle Woodger

Noah, I don’t have the time available to play the types of games you do videos on (mostly, at least) so for me the value of your videos is significant – they allow me to understand and appreciate art I may otherwise never get the chance to experience in a thoughtful and considered way. If I didn’t think your videos justified being a Patreon, I wouldn’t pay what I do – simple as that. Please don’t feel pressured by that support – we just enjoy what you do. Certainly there’s a few minor points where your videos can improve – I sometimes think an additional ‘proofing’ watch from your end would have caught a few issues, and while I love your style, I think tidying up a few of the verbal stumbles would not take away from that and make them even more watchable. But those are minor points – you produce great, and unique, content, and so long as you do, I (and others) will continue to happily and voluntarily support you. (FWIW, I loved your TLOU2 video – I didn’t agree with everything you said, but I thought it was a heartfelt and sensitive take that really got under the skin of what the game was trying to achieve. I totally understand why some people might not have liked some aspects, but don’t mistake that for the video being fundamentally worthless, because it was far from that)

Zveebo

Noah. Please stop being so hard on yourself. You are my favorite creator on this platform by far and I get so much out of your videos. You have no idea. I’d be realt heartbroken if you stopped. Both for your own sake as well as my own. Looking forward to your videos is one of my highlights each month, exactly because of your infectious passion for whatever you decide to talk about. To be honest, I was skeptical of your travel videos as first as I am very much a games person. But after watching them, now your travel videos are some of my favorite work of yours. Again. It is because of what you as a person bring to the subject material. I can’t wait to watch you repair old cars, even though I’m definitely not a car person. :) Don’t sell yourself short. You are far better at what you do than most other professionals. I’ll keep donating.

Peter Flink

I chose to become your Patreon because I love your videos, warts and all. Your style of video essay is quite unlike any others I know, and the slowly crafted, carefully worded thoughts you express absolutely require you to take your time working on them. And that means taking the time to poke around with different projects, to have mealtimes and leisure time and all the other things and generally let your mind wander and alight in different places. I support your work because I love the way you make it. If you become beholden to our donations in terms of deciding your content, then your channel will no longer be what I subscribed to - and that is a sad thought. It may turn out that I don't enjoy videos on automotive maintenance. On the other hand, watching you tinker under a car bonnet and explain your thoughts as you do might be the best thing I never knew that I liked - it might be inspiration for me to try it out myself! Either way, I'll be in control of my donations to your channel, happy to know that I'm helping a creative person explore new outlets. Or keep doing what they are doing. It's not up to me! These donations are cumulative - only together do they look like a large sum. To each of us, I'd guess, the donation is a small increment, something that each of us has decided we are happy to part with. So please, keep doing you - though with that feeling that you're doing something underhanded removed!

Sam Laing

You are being absolutely, absurdly hard on yourself. Your work is great. You provide a unique a strong perspective on the games you cover. Your work is also not worth killing yourself over. I contribute to your patreon because I want you to be able to make this work and do it on your own terms and pace. Every time I see an update from you I am overjoyed about it. I love your thoughtful, thorough perspectives. I have never once thought about how long it took you between videos. They require a huge amount of thought and work and it shows. I don't expect or want you to overwork yourself to produce things with higher "production values" or churned out on a specific schedule. I am hear for your voice and thoughts. All that said, I think your perspective on the financials here are a bit lopsided. From your perspective it might seem like you're getting all this money (and even then mate, you are not making rich person money off this patreon, you just aren't), but honestly it's not like each of us are throwing colossal sums of money at you. Me, being a cheapskate, am only giving $1 and some basic arithmetic shows your average patron is giving $6 a month. We are not paying for the most expensive product in the world here, even the people paying for their names to be read out. We aren't being "charged" extreme amounts here. And that's ignoring the fact that we aren't being charged at all. You put out these videos for free. We are giving you amounts that we choose because we want to support your work. And supporting your work means supporting you. I want you to be able to do this and live off it, not die from it. This is money paid to you. It is not money paid to contribute back to your youtube channel. It is for you. I don't expect it to all go to investing in making youtube videos or to mean all of your time must be monopolised by making youtube videos. I expect you to use it to eat, pay rent and then spend it on whatever you want. As soon as it comes out of my bank account and goes to yours it is your money. It is not for being spent of converting pure dollar value to seconds of youtube footage. It's your money, do whatever the hell you want with it. Write the novel. Go on a vacation without feeling the need to mine it for video fodder. I hearby swear off the $1 a month I contribue to you, and whatever time investment that translates to, as needing to go to anything in particular. I am not being taken advantage of. I do not consider you to have broken any promises to me or to have been lied to. Enjoy the money. I can't pretend I speak for all your patreons, but you have nearly a thousand patreons and it's pretty safe to assume that the vast vast majority of those who keep contributing in silence without making a fuss over anything are probably happy enough with the current arrangement.

Caoimhe

I have a feeling this is going to fall on deaf ears because of the sheer outpouring of comments you're getting on this post. I've been a longtime fan of your work Noah, and as a trans women, your Last of Us 2 take was a little frustrating, but it didn’t jackknife my shit in the same way other terrible takes online have. But the video will live on and unless addressed, it will stay in the state it was left in. I understand the desire to wash your hands and I’ve never consistently created content in my life, but truly addressing your mistakes on the largest platform available would send a message that is distinctly lacking for your original piece. I know I personally would appreciate it very much but again; I don’t know shit. Your work is legitimately amazing, and you deserve success. Despite the scattered schedule, you work has changed my life in a way very few things ever have. The humanity and appreciation for nature captured in your work blows my shit clean apart. Everyone has dips and the artist effects the art, but as long as you continue to work with same passion you have, I think I’ll keep enjoying your videos. I’m not going to weigh in on whether or not you “deserve” all the money you receive, but I know for certain my pledge is going to a good place. I’d take your content over a Netflix subscription any day. Take care out there!

Tyler O

First of all, english is not my first language so i apologise for any mistypings or wierd sentence structure. Now, i love your work and i rewatch your videos on a regular intervall because i enjoy the storytelling. I'm not going to drag this on any more then i need to but i would like to tell you that i support you because of the amazing work you already have created, and wouldn't mind paying a symbolic sum each month for me having the privilige of rewatching you videos. That being said, i support you on patreon because i belive that good creative work comes from a freedom to undertake said creative work. I want to support you as an artist, and i do not expect to have content created at a regular intervall in return. I actually look that much more forward to your next video if there is a big gap in between. "What is Noah going to do next i wonder?". By the way, loved your neverwinter nights video. I have a lot of teenage memories from NWN 1, and as you mentioned in the video, i also didn't recollect the lizard plot when reminicing about the game.

Asbjørn Voll Kvalbein

Honestly, Noah, it sounds like you're going through what I have gone through when things have gone well for me. You feel guilty or unworthy of it despite having earned your success. Except you have thousands of voices telling you different things. I would say chill out, I'm happy with your output and I'm equally happy to continue being a patron. You have yet to let me down and even if you did I highly doubt it will be anything particularly egregious. You do you, Noah. I'll be there to support you no matter what l.

David Harpstrite

As other people have said, I’m not supporting you because I expect videos on a set schedule. I’m supporting you because I like your work and want to see more, and for you to be financially comfortable whilst you pursue your voice. Take care of yourself.

Kingofblarg

I don't know what you compare the value of your videos to as they, to me they are worth the money people pledge to make them happen. If you're taking polls maybe restrict them to the patreon. The negativity of some random person commenting on a video is not a worthwhile opinion. But maybe check out Craig Mod's Roden newsletter. In it he talks about crafting value for patrons, he has a membership-only newsletter about walking through Japan, he does photographic books, he talks about the process of setting up fundraisers. I don't see your videos as existing next to many other youtube videos, they're essays that are worth revisiting, they're honest. There's a lot of paperbooks I've picked up for nothing, there's books I've paid more money for because the content inside is worth it. Yet they're both printed on the same types of paper.

Damon

I replied on twitter mostly to tell you to be kind to yourself but I wanted to raise something else. As patreons we choose to contribute to you. It's a choice we each actively make and it's not an accident and you aren't taking us for a ride, we're more than aware of who you are and what we make. You're not exactly a creator that people discover on a whim, your videos take a bit of commitment and to like them enough to contribute people will have sat through hours of content. So speaking less generally and more personally. I don't regret it at all and doubt I will. I contribute to a number of people, I'm lucky to be able to do so, and all of them are people who create content that I hope will make the world better. Sure, most of it is also entertaining, but I so much of what our creators economy encourages is caustic thaat I really value the positive voices. You're one of those. Even when you mess up you react in such sincere contrition and eagerness to improve I find it hard to hold against you, if I did I'd have to hold much worse against myself and I've worked for years to learn to forgive myself. Because of that positivity, your fantastic insights, your wit, and several other reasons I contribute because I choose to. I contribute because I enjoy what you do and I think you put positivity into the world (and the gaming community) and that's something that is sorely needed. So with that said, I'd love to repeat that I hope you're kind to yourself. I do think your TLOU2 video had a bad take but that happens. All you can do is be better going forward and I don't doubt you will. I'm sincerely looking forward to whatever you put out next and, at least for now, I have no regrets contributing.

JCalder

Good morning, Noah 🌇 Thank you for the update and thank you for speaking your mind so freely. No, I don’t think you can make “too much money”, if people are voluntarily giving it to you - patronage is a choice to give on one’s own free will to support a person’s work; whether that is a video (or any kind of effort for that matter) per week, month or year. It’s not a store and neither it is a business transaction in the original sense of the term. I for my part support people because I want them to be in a position to pursue their craft, whatever that may turn out to be. Noone and nothing compels me to donate money to this cause but myself and should I ever become dissatisfied about “not getting my money’s worth, I am at any point free to withdraw my patronage and move on - the onus is on me at all times. Which leads me to the issue of people “being dissatisfied” with another’s work and / or opinion: Firstly, one does not get to dictate what another person is thinking, period; though that statement certainly applies to either party in this. Secondly; for every person that likes what you’re doing and supports your decision, there will always be a hundred (or more) telling you off, deriding you and wondering (VERY loudly) how you’re wasting your time “like that”. To quote from Dr. Suess: “Those who matter don’t mind - and those who mind don’t matter.” If they don’t like it, they are free to leave and ignore; throwing tantrums and derision around with no other argument than “I don’t like that !” only brings low the accuser, not the accusee. Granted, those voices will never cease - As long as you are a person on a public platform, you are susceptible to this form of “criticism”. Given that, then if 10 per cent of a thousand people don’t like the idea of you trying your hand at writing, that means there are 900 people who support your decision (by being vocal or by being silent; either way works). It really becomes a matter of relativity - if the dismssal of a minority (or a single person) were enough to tear down the work of a lifetime, nothing would have ever been made. (And I bet there were some stone-age men arguing over the fire about that “crazy lad who smears stuff on cave walls all day”) Everything can be argued against; everything can be dissected, presented and condemned and be brought low before a crowd - people are weird like that. But I wouldn’t say that concerns you, Noah: You’re not a politician, you’re not a CEO - the only thing you’re responsible (and accountable for) is your own life and how you are going to spend your time on this world. If you wish to dabble in writing, please go ahead (and please tell us when the book releases), if you want to learn how to repair cars, then go ahead. If your time is spent on a dozen projects at a time and it only yields a few videos per year, that’s fine. I am quite certain that the “Last of Us 2” video wouldn’t have had such an impact if you hadn’t released it at the time you did; since the “controversy” was fresh in people’s minds at the time - you basically got into water with sharks and I applaud you for that: You obviously wanted to add your opinion to the discussion and did not hesitate to do so, despite the turmoil. When I recommend your videos (and I often do), I describe you as a scholar of storytelling in video games and that is no exaggeration. I have personally witnessed highly esteemed (and highly decorated) lecturers who could not match the degree of sophistication you put forth in your essays. Take care, Noah - you’re doing the right thing !

Phoenix_Flames

For years I have been watching your content. Your long form detailed reviews I find super engaging and unique as its gives me a newfound appreciation for how I view games. As someone from Europe, the road trip series was an eye opener, I would have never thought I would of been into that kind of content but I loved every minute of it. I feel happy in supporting you in whatever endeavour you wish to pursue, be that writing or becoming a certified mechanic. I have often use adblocker and feel that I have been the one who has been exploiting this content creator relationship. Recently though I have found myself in a strong financial footing and felt obliged to give back to those who have given me so much over the years. 

I wish you well and hope this message helps.

liywjl

I think your work is truly unique and from what I can tell you're a genuinely good person, as long as these two things remain true (and I can't see them changing anytime soon) I'll have your back!

Ochi

If you both A: Think you make too much money and B: recognize your depression is a source of difficulty for you maybe take some of that money and start seeing a therapist?

John Wells

For what it's worth, I support you because your work is so unique and valuable. I don't care how much you're making, the money I give you is entirely voluntary and the work you do is amazing and I want to see more of it! I like your hand-written title cards, the way you bring your life and experiences into your analysis of games, the odd places you wind up going to in your bus, etc. I also really respect your attitude towards us, there's no gatekeeping things behind donation levels or anything like that. I'm going to keep supporting you for as long as you want to keep doing this, keep up the good work!

Jake Hadley

Let me start by saying I love your work. That's why I donate. It may only be $1, but that's why I donate to a few people each month. You're one of them. I think your writing has kept the consistency that I donated for, and yes, I think you've gotten better over the years, in all aspects. I primarily enjoy video game analysis on YouTube, and you are my favourite of that niche. The next part is tricky because of your depression. I've suffered with it for years as well. I think I have a better handle on it these days, but that's the thing hey, it never really goes away. It never takes much for it to come back. It's crippling, and tells you all the bad things you think about yourself are true. Because you have the audience that allows you to make a living off of YouTube and Patreon, a percentage of the audience will tell you those things and validate them in your mind. I relate to a lot of what you say in regards to videos. I just put on a video on Bioshock Infinite that I've been working on since May...maybe even April. It's 20 minutes long. It seems ridiculous that it takes that long to make something like this, so I understand the idea of wanting to reach the holy grail of a video a month. I have no audience either, so that expectation isn't on my shoulders, but my own personal expectations are, and I think they weigh the most. Maybe you need the longer time to make sure what you do is the quality you need it to be? I think my dawdling is mostly out of fear that I'll make a bad video. Finally I think the worrying about making too much money, yet also worrying about working hard enough is hurting you. It sounds that way. If you're feeling guilty about spending lunch with your wife, or spending some time to write a book, then it sounds like you have a bad work/life balance. The travel videos, the novel, going back to school to learn mechanic repair sound like things you're passionate about alongside the video games. You should work to make time for it all. And look, people probably will stop funding you if they feel you're not dedicating yourself wholly to what they think you should be dedicating yourself to, but you know what? Fuck em. I bet if you take some time to write your novel, go to school, spend more time with your wife, your dogs and your friends, a few things will happen. One is you'll likely get new subscribers that take an interest in your new projects, and two, I bet you'll feel rejuvenated and it's easier to work on your videogame projects. There will be less stress too. Your work is an inspiration to me, and I hate to hear how much you're suffering, so I hope this comment can help in someway. All the best!

Dave

It seems like you are trying to do emotional therapeutic work with an internet comment section here. Whatever we say, positive or negative, I don't think it will really help you to arrive at a more comfortable understanding of this situation or of your conflicted feelings towards it. I'm not trying to do a drive-by diagnosis or anything but this seems like something you should cover with a mental health professional in preference to hundreds of mental health amateurs (like myself, admittedly).

Werneral Herzod

Let us worry about whether we feel we 'get value for money' or whether we feel it's right to support you. This reaction you've had is nicer to see than if you bought a mansion you can't afford the upkeep on etc. But ultimately it's an attitude that is just as self destructive. I support you because I derive so much enjoyment from your content. If the content improves in quality then I'm just getting even more of a good thing. Let yourself be happy. Allow yourself to be proud of finding an audience. Make sure you're finding joy in the work. Give yourself a damn break!

Sam Jones

Your problem, Noah, is that you think there is some kind of gold standard of how much video quality and quantity equals $1. The reality is, you live in a capitalist economy, and your videos are worth as much as others are willing to pay for it. You may not like it for your political beliefs, and that does you credit (as does the fact that you have high standards for your work), but that's just how it is. In other words, it is not that your work is overvalued now, it's that it was UNDERvalued before, and now that you've gained more reach, your remuneration catches up.

Mikhail Aristov

Along with heartfeltly echoing everything everyone else has said, here's something to consider: I go out to eat a few times a week, each instance of which runs me anywhere between seven and twenty dollars. The miser in me may beat me up for it, but spending for one meal what could pay for three to ten homemade meals keeps me sane when the alternative is eating nothing but store-brand pasta for the rest of my life. But the fact remains: Every month I blow somewhere between one and two hundred dollars for a few hours' relief to my appetite and palate, after which I might as well have never had the meals to begin with for all the difference having had them makes. And yet even with that knowledge needling the back of my skull each and every time I do it, I continue to do so, because in the long run my life is sufficiently just that little bit happier for it that it's worth the expenditure. Compare this to your videos. Even in an absolute worst-case scenario where three months go by and all you have to show for it is one new video, in that time I've still spent less than even the very cheapest of those meals out. And in exchange? Well, another fix of – no exaggeration – my very favorite video essayist there is, for one; coming off the back of essayists like Lindsay Ellis or The Geek Critique, the lack of production value in your videos was legitimately offputting to me when I discovered them a few years ago, and yet despite the fact that my first impression of you was legitimately poor (because on top of the issues I had with your presentation, I didn't even agree with the point you were making in the video!), the substance of your work was and is so strong that this couldn't stop me from devouring all the rest of your content in short order. But going back to the issue of value, even *that's* selling your work short – because one thing you're seemingly not factoring into your anguish over all this (and which, having frequented the comments sections of your videos, I know I'm far from alone in) is how goddamn REWATCHABLE your output is. You know what I do in the months-long spans between your batches of uploads? I just engorge myself on your existing body of work again and again. Any time I need to put on something to listen to during a meal, or a drive, or when I'm trying to fall asleep, or when I just need to calm myself down, you're my #1 go-to. (Like, seriously, the notion you presented here of you deleting your channel someday straight-up horrifies me; your videos ceasing to be available would legitimately be a blow to my mental health.) Barring instances like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Death Stranding where I've had to bar myself from rewatching them because your analysis singlehandedly sold me on the game in question to the point that I don't want to memorize your talking points through repetition any more than I have by already having watched them the one time, I genuinely don't think there's a video on your whole channel I've revisited less than five times. I'm not a $10 patron. At the time of writing, I have a grand total of $5,000 to my name; even when the value I get from them ends up well exceeding the asking price, I legitimately can't afford to buy games at full price or contribute more than basically the bare minimum to those Patreon creators I do support (itself a mere fraction of the number of creators I wish I could support). But if I was? For the value I and all the people like me get from your work? I would still feel everything I've expressed here not an ounce less strongly than I do now.

Just Andre

You have a deal. If I ever stop liking what you're putting out I'll stop paying for it. I wouldn't worry to much though.

Anthony Bardill

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I want to have said it: The money I want to give you is not a transaction, not the price I'd like to pay for a video at a set interval. It is money paid directly to you, the creator, to exist and thrive. Whatever that entails now, whatever it entails in the future.

Toad Heart

There are plenty of wonderful messages here that capture the extent of my feelings in full, but I still think it's important to be heard in this sort of matter. I'll try to be brisk, although I am very bad at that. In my amateur estimation I feel confident that your writting is indeed ever improving. Generally with every subsequent video I find myself ever more impressed by your eloquence, your wit, and the depth of your insights. As far as I'm concerned the quality of your videos are better than ever and that's all there really is to it. I think that many's expectations of how Patreon works and how creators should be beholden to the platform are often outlandish and unhealthy. I know it's hard to parse out the valid criticism from the more bad faith, especially through depression and imposter syndrome, but it's important to understand that my Patreon contributions are my own. I will decide when I am being swindled by a creator and I do not feel that I am so by you, nor have I ever. Noah you create some of the most unique and important video game criticism on the internet. I am more than happy with your output and pace. I want you to feel safe to branch out, to seek out your own interest and validation. To self improve for yourself and not for the nebulous monolithic being known as The Patreon. I look forward to buying your fiction if that becomes a reality. I look forward to learning more about car maintenance with you if you'll have us on that journey with you. I look forward to your future travel videos, but they cant come now, they'll come in time when COVID has passed, and unless you know the secret to curing COVID there's nothing to be done about that. I especially look forward to whatever game reviews you'll produce next and quite honestly I hope that you'll work perhaps less and in doing so streamline your production pipeline a bit - I suspect that as paradoxical as it may be some of your production issues stem from overwork rather than working too little. Regardless understand that my support for you is my own. You're a bright and genuine guy and voice on the internet and even though you've stumbled recently you continue to be a positive force on the internet and in video game discourse. But that's not all that you can be or have to be, and I want to support you through and through it all. I guess ultimately this wasn't brief at all, sorry about that. Do what you need to do for you. Patrons of the arts supported artist's lifestyles and creation process, not the actual material production of art. Although the times and medium have changed the same is true today. My financial support is for you and your lifestyle and whatever you choose to produce regardless as to what it is - not for the explicit transaction of your creating art.

OldmanJables

I'm gonna add my voice to the choir and say a couple things, firstly, you're not being paid rock star money mate, you're just being paid sort of decent, a brief Google says you're basically at the median for your state. Considering all the years and time you put in when you were being undervalued I would say it's only right that you begin to enjoy the fruits of your labour. I'll tell you this, your appeal for me was never that you didn't have money, I don't watch your videos for folksy down home recipes that I can make for less than $3, I watch them because I really enjoy listening to what you have to say about some of my favorite video game series and I enjoy it at the pace you output them. Also, you have the most generous refund policy of any channel I know, I have friends who constantly trial games they could afford and return them on Steam before the window is up. It's anecdotal but I promise if there was any real wide-scale problem with people feeling their value for money was less than they felt was acceptable, it would translate in the form of refund requests and not shitty comments on your videos. I sub here when I can and it's because I love your videos, I re-watch your old output frequently and I want you to have the financial stability to make whatever series appeals to you next. I don't want "one a month", I want you to take care of yourself, eat well and pay your bills. Thanks for all the work you put into them, they do a lot of good.

Epitome22

First off, let me just say that I've been pledging to you because I love your writing. Your writing is so incredibly good -- the fact that it comes in video form is a plus. If you want to put out more content that doesn't require a lot of time-consuming editing, may I suggest a podcast as a supplement to your video content? If you had all your YT content as an audio-only podcast, I'd listen to it just as quickly as I watch your newest videos. I'd also certainly love to see more written work by you and, while I don't particularly read much, I'd at least read the first chapter of your book to see if it hooks me -- and believe me, that's saying something.

Azroix

Also I think the way you handled the Tlo2 vid was very level headed and humble. Im trans, and i feel most other trans folks understand that people sometimes make mistakes. What matters more is the intention behind the actions, and and its pretty clear you had good intentions and followed up on them by trying to amplify trans perspectives afterwards. As long as you keep trying your best to stay inclusive and amplify minority voices, on these kinds of subjects, things will be ok ❤

Daria

Please don't read the following as me being angry, but: Please get your head out of your ass. You deserve 5 grand because several individuals decided you were worth whatever they pledge. It was consensual, and I hope you believe that nothing is unduly possessing any of us to give you our money. That voice telling you that you aren't worth it doesn't have your best interest at heart, and there's a difference between critiquing and tearing down. You can maybe talk with a specialist about how to improve your workflow or start diverting your patreon income to contract out some of the grunt work like audio processing or whatever you just tolerate to make a video. But you did this, you convinced people to support your work, and you have our support. You might have fucked up a little, but fuck-ups have to happen eventually when you're actually doing anything of note. Keep on keeping on. *Sips Monster*

Tyler King

I can relate to a lot of these feelings. It's hard to not feel the weight of expectation when looking at that Patreon income number; to feel like you owe an equivalent return on that "investment" in you. But really, the size of that income is something no individual gets to decide (or judge). Your monthly pay from this site isn't (and can't be) determined by the "objective" value of your creative output or the measurable resources you put into it. It simply represents the quantity of people who like what you do and want to help support your future creative efforts. And if the amount you're earning far exceeds what the creative work costs to make, that's ok! Altering your creative work just for the sake of aesthetically matching your Patreon income isn't necessary (and honestly, I'd say it's a mistake in most cases). You get to decide what you make (and how you make it, and how OFTEN you make it), and we each get to individually decide whether that creative direction is something we want to continue supporting. We aren't your bosses, and we CERTAINLY don't get to dictate what you do with the funds you have access to. You've simply given the general public a means of supporting your creative output, and the resulting income number is just kinda what it is. (P.S. I personally really enjoy the charm of your production style, but I'm also happy to offer technical advice or assistance if you ever want it!)

Daniel Floyd

Hey Noah, long time fan here and on-again off-again patron. I've been watching your vids since your mass effect retrospective and its been really cool seeing you grow and improve over time. These are tough times for a lot of people, for a lot of reasons. But I think a lot of various content creators have been feeling like they they aren't productive enough to warrant the support they receive through things like patreon. Partially because people who are typically not content creators sometimes want or expect more from those artists than what is realistically feasible. To me its ok that your upload schedule is more erratic than say, a lets player, due to the fact that you're a one man operation making hours long videos covering often hundreds of hours of content like entire game series or road trips. And I like to imagine many others feel the same considering your current level of support.

Daria

Your new Kentucky Route Zero video is exemplary. I love that game, I love your videos. I'm being selfish here, but I'd be profoundly sad if you were to stop making videos, about video games or travel or whatever you want. That's all I have to add.

Ryan Aston

I'm a new patron but a long time fan. Your videos mean a lot to me and have helped me think about games in a new way. But at the end of the day, I contribute the money I do for you. Because I value your voice and thoughts. I (and I'm sure at least some others) don't really view my pledge as transactional. I'm not paying for videos, I'm supporting someone whose work feels unique and vital. If you want to slick up your production values, that's cool but I've been spending my work days going through all your work from the begining, and while there's definite improvements, it all works for me because your perspective and writing voice is what I come for. I respect your desire to struggle and better yourself but I hope you don't get too down on yourself and your work. This is all pretty rambly but I felt your earnest unvarnished thoughts deserved some of my own. Thanks for reading, thanks for everything

Hunter Rasmussen

I think that I'm receiving adequate fun for the money I pay. In Poland, 5-10 USD is about an equivalent to a few beers or a cinema ticket. I'd certainly spend this amount to attend a lecture or watch a documentary. Your work is above the median kick I'd got from other media. 5k USDs is not really enough equivalent for a full-time expert analyst job. You should earn enough to save for retirement, healthcare, vacations and other forms of sustainability. You are on par with a professional reporter or an academic working on long lectures. You have enough presentation skills, combined with more than adequate knowledge. Trust me, I'm a professional academician myself. Your work is worth this money. Is there an option to pay more, so you'd have surpulus for health and recovery times? I'd much more like to pay 15USD and be assured that you are further away from burnout. I'd rather watch 1 piece / 2 months for a few next years, rather than 1 piece / 1 month for a shorter time. Take care, take vacations, take time for health. I'm here for a long haul, so I hope that you will be too

zaxm

I upped my pledge after reading this. You make less money then I do, and I'm an IT tech at a nonprofit. Also, the way you describe criticism impacting you reminds me a little of my own struggles with what I've heard described as "masochistic epistemology." Essentially, the more a criticism hurts, the truer I perceive it to be. It's just not true. That's not how it works. It's clear in every second of your work that you give a shit, and that goes a really long way. So you make mistakes sometimes. If you didn't, you'd be inhuman. I'm no therapist and I don't know you in real life, but I wanted to share the way my experience seemed similar to yours. I love your work, and I 100% feel that you've given me full value for my contribution. Good luck, Noah.

Carew Woodbury

Oh, also, re-TLOU2...I'm not trans, and I totally see why people would be upset about your take on the trans character in that game, but...good god, if I did not love hearing about you finding a deep, meaningful connection with Ellie, relating her survivor's guilt with your own struggles with depression. A lot of people are very invested in the idea that human beings are too different to get along. White people can't get along with black people, gay people can't get along with straight people, men cannot get along with women. These people thrive on that kind of division - and you finding this deep, deep connection with a character who seems (on the face of it) to be a polar opposite to you (woman, gay, vs male, straight), just... I really thought it was beautiful.

Dragon Cobolt

A bunch of other people have already said a lot of what I'm thinking. Depression is a bitch and Imposer Syndrome is her conniving uncle who is trying to trick you out of your inheritance with some elaborate con scheme. Speaking as a long term patreon (well, longish), a lot of the happiness I have in giving you money is not in...the new content, exactly, though every time you drop a new video, I do a little dance. It's the fact that I can rewatch your Dead Space video for, like, the 10th time, putting it on in the background while I'm cooking or working, and I know that my money is keeping this kind of voice alive out there.

Dragon Cobolt

I would be very happy to hear you were using the security patreon affords you to write a novel or go back to school. If I wasn't, I know I can remove my pledge. The videos are great, and I don't want to downplay them, but they're clearly the product of you thinking carefully about a medium that sometimes resists that kind of attention. It's the thinking I came here to support, not the frames on the screen. I would be equally happy to see you doing that kind of thinking on other topics that interest you.

Bryn Davies

Just wanted to drop in and say: I give my (admittedly small) donation every month to support you as an critic and creator particularly because I enjoy your writing. The video quality is second for me to the thought and effort that is put into your scripts. So I mean, I would love to hear that you are also giving yourself a chance to write your novel. I’m happy with the output you have currently.

Mike Greaney

With the length and quality of your videos, I did not subscribe under the assumption that you would be putting one out every month. I also didn't assume that that you would never make a video I didn't like, quality varying from project to project is normal. Everyone can watch your videos for free, nobody is giving you money because they have to, I can't think of a way in which this situation is coercive or unfair to the people choosing to give you money anyway.

Clayton LeVerrier

Noah, I was really moved by this piece and I'm genuinely sorry you've been grappling with these feelings for so long. I wanna say I think your videos have been improving in quality significantly over the past few years, and I can't say I have ever had a month when I've been disappointed by your output in any way. I suffer from anxiety and your videos have been a huge help in me being able to come to terms with this illness and think about my life in a more measured and analytical way, particularly in the ways you talk honestly about your depression. It lead to me being able to book some therapy and start to be a better partner so thank you for that. It fuckin sucks that there are so many people that have commented on your vids with the kind of things you've mentioned, but I think it's fair to say that there's hundreds and hundreds of your followers who will happily keep paying you because you are one of the most important voices to them in media. And you haven't gotten up to this level of patrons because there's an expectation that your output will increase or scale up, more just that this many people have found meaning in your content and want to keep seeing more good work from you. My favourite videos you've done are the travelogues, but if someone else doesn't like those then they will have another video to look forward to. One of my favourite comments I've ever seen on the channel is from someone during the time when you released the control, young blood and outer world's videos: "Noah Gervais, the hardest working man on YouTube" which is so goddam true and anyone who follows your content can see that clearly. If you wanna take time on personal projects then grab that shit by the horns and do it: I would love to see writing from you someday. To wrap up a long comment - your content (edited-accidentaly wrote comment!) is amazing, I will keep donating so long as there's a button to do so, and I really hope that someday it's a bit easier for you to feel better about what you're grappling with. Your not a con man Noah and just know we all fuckin love your content. Love from the UK

Matthew Burns

I only watch the travel videos. My patreon contribution is a bargain for how much I enjoy them. I appreciate your sensitivity to money and value to us. I think it can be challenging because everyone has a different notion of fairness, and patreons are more like supporters than customers. I feel your anxiety about the support money. I don't get the sense you are just blowing it on junk. I believe, even if unrealistic in 2020 USA, that a secure middle-class economic position should be very ordinary and achievable. We want you to do well. In my experience, the cult of work doesn't often mix well with creative projects. I lose sensitivity, clarity and complexity. I always imagine the value to reflect the extreme grind, and it can't. I urge you to take the time you need. Your thoughtful reflections on ideas and stories are why I watch. Looking forward to adventures ahead!

Martin Peek

"What it comes down to is that I won't ever feel right about what I'm doing unless you, as a patron, feel one hundred percent comfortable just letting me figure out what comes next in my own way with the understanding that I'll get it to you when it's done." As a patron, that's exactly what I felt when I started donating, and I don't feel any different about it now. It's nice to see this transparency (because I too struggle with depression and sometimes feeling like I don't deserve what I get), but I don't need you to do anything different.

Eric Joyner

I'm just one person who contributes a very small amount of money to this Patreon, but I can wholeheartedly say that I'm happy to support whatever work you end up doing, whether it's more video game critiques, travelogues, fiction (honestly I'd be thrilled to see what you're writing!), car repair - it might not all be something that interests me deeply, but then, I rarely buy an album or a book of poetry where I'm equally caught by every piece. As other people have commented, I find your intellect/work (especially the travelogues) to be very inspirational no matter the topic - I'm actually set to start work on a graduate thesis that was originally inspired by your footage and commentary on the National Parks you've visited. Honestly, I'd be happy to send a few bucks your way (or anyone's way) every month just to keep you out of the sinkhole that makes up so much minimum wage work. If that money also occasionally helps support some interesting analysis of a game I love (or hate), or videos of places I've never seen - well, even better.

allstreets

FWIW, I would be happy with you working LESS. It's obvious that you have difficulty assigning time to anything other than creating content for the patreon, and I would feel much better knowing that you are, in fact, doing that. I am interested in helping you make things, possibly stuff about vidja games, but I was patroning before you did the travelogues and those are different from what you were doing and turned out awesome. I absolutely want you to be able to learn new stuff and try new things, it's all grist for the writing/living mill. Car mechanics has already added to both video game critique and your travel videos. Do stuff, take time for life, learn new things, and make new videos as you can. Respect your patrons enough to know that you didn't TRICK us. You are clever enough to have a refund policy for exactly this reason. We KNOW how you work and continue to support you.

Matthew Mason

That's pretty textbook imposter syndrome there Noah! Though I'm not a psychiatrist so what do I know (you might consider visiting one, it could help a lot). Personally, I'd just like to see whatever you try, whether it'd be video essays or writing fiction. We're here for your unique take on things. As for the amount of money you make being a burden: pay it forward! Whether it'd be for work related jobs or charity, find somewhere to spend the money on something meaningful to you. Maybe you'd want to try and see what a freelance audio designer or video editor could do with your content as an experiment? Or just fund the local pet rescue? Either way, see if you can find a purpose for it that you feel comfortable with.

Clavus

What I value about your work, and what I hope you have seen a lot of people in the comments here value about your work, is your voice. If I demanded a constant, maniacally consistent production schedule I could watch a Twitch channel that put out 5 hours of video a day. If I demanded a professional level of editing and production, I would never even bother turning on YouTube and would just watch network television. As far as I am concerned, if you put out one video a year that had the same heart, effort, and thought put into it that as the videos you have put out multiple times a year I would be thoroughly satisfied. I support your channel and you because I want you to have a platform, and I frankly do not expect or demand anything in return for it. You have shown how thoughtful and considerate you are about your platform over and over, with this very post being yet another shining example. I hope you look at this wall of comments and are reminded of how much your work means to people, myself included. But more than that, I hope you take away that your content is of secondary importance to you, as a living, breathing, thinking human being. Pressure is inevitable in performing for an audience, but please make sure to take care of yourself as much as you can in the process. Not prioritizing that would be a tragedy many orders of magnitude greater than anything that you mention in this post.

Matt Donaghy

Always remember that many, many creatives (even ones who have turned out inarguably great works) suffer from impostor syndrome. There is never going to be a “fix” that will prevent you from hyperfixating on negative feedback and perceived failings, or a creeping sense that you’re doing something “wrong” and that an intangible time-bomb is going to go off and cause everything to collapse. I say this as someone who hasn’t been able to push themselves into doing it yet: try to make time for therapy. You’re a working class person who managed to succeed by utilizing a talent and became a semi-public figure, this is a guarantee for anxiety.

David Dodge

Keep on keeping on. Whatever keeping you want.

Mang0 Bandit0

Noah, I am one hundred percent comfortable with letting you figure out what comes next in your own way with the understanding that you’ll get it to us when it's done. Period.

Sela

Personally I understand your fears and concerns - as I share them myself a lot of the time. I can't speak to everyone's perspective, but I don't expect output or view you as an employee. I view you as a human being first, and one that's asking for help to do what they love and to better themselves. I know things will never be smooth or perfect or consistent or even permanent. You have a perspective I don't and to me that alone is worth the money and if I can occasionally see glimmers of it. In a purely selfish reasoning there's a chance you will do something that I will value, so it's in my best interest to support you, because I do not have the time, knowledge, background, or a trillion other factors that make you unique to do what you do and obtain the same value. The money I give you is trust, not an obligation. I suspect many don't feel the same but even if I'm your only patron I hope you know why.

TinfoilPancakes

I apologise for my formatting, I typed this in bed on my mobile, and for the life of me I can't find the line breaks. I have way to much to say on the topics you brought up, but suffice to say - Its okay to make mistakes, but the only exercise of privilege here I don't accept is to then not confront that meaningfully. You have a right to be happy and not financially pressured, and it would make me dad to see you sacrifice on that because of guilt. Depression is a bitch, so I will repeat your right to happiness at nauseum until its embedded in your mind.

Alex Williams

I for one loved your Last of Us 2 video. As for the issue with Lev, maybe I'm having trouble grasping this, but was it because he was deadnamed in the game? I seriously don't understand why there was backlash given the context in which he was deadnamed, which happened when he was engaging with people who clearly did not believe he is who he is, something that not exactly unfamiliar in real life. If anything it pushes people to have conversations about these issues. Pretending that dead naming doesn't exist and crucifying a narrative for portraying the adversities of being trans for what it is just seems kinda stupid, if I can be Frank.

Jeff Tsang

What Argus wrote. :) But, just in case you read this and an extra perspective helps: I, for one, don't contribute to your Patron because I want/expect higher production quality, or more/more consistent content, or... anything really. When I found your channel, your approach to playing and discussing video games introduced me to a whole new way I could understand and appreciate games. A way that I haven't encountered before or since. Your perspective and quality of your critique (both for games, and more broadly including the travel videos) is what I value about your work, and getting that perspective has genuinely impacted and added meaning to my own life. So when I contribute to the Patreon, it's partly because, given your work's impact, it's the least I could give back, and partly because I hope you get to make more of it. And when there are dry spells, my thought is not to wonder if you're "getting away with my money", but to hope that you're doing okay. And when I see your Patreon doing well, it's fine by me, cause I think you deserve it. Also, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this, the handwritten titles, small mistakes in the voiceover, and general low-tech... vibes (?) make your videos a lot more charming.

Kasra

Noah, mate, we're here for *you.* Not necessarily your game writings, though your unique insight is valuable to us. Not necessarily your travelogues, though we adore hearing of your adventures. Not necessarily the prospect of you streaming mechanic work, though that sounds facinating to me. No, it's you we want to support. If you decided to take a break, I would continue donating, because I know it's going to a good person who does interesting things. And if I'm feeling selfish, I know that on the other end of your struggles there'll be an excellent piece for me to listen to while I work my dead-end job, and my day will feel elevated because of you.

Argus Swift

Patreon is opt-in, Noah. If I ever felt you weren't giving me fair recompense for my money I'd stop paying. But you've always delivered high quality writing. You made me interested in watching over an hour about Wildlands, a game in a genre and style I'm aggressively uninterested in. You are doing something with game writing that I haven't been able to find anyone else to do as well. My money is well spent. That money is for anything creative you do; hell, it's just to support your continued existence. Depression is hard. It makes every bad thing any chucklefuck on the internet or the meatspace says feel so, so true. But it's not. And all you can do is keep doing what you're doing. Live your life. Write what you want. I'll heartily support whatever either of those entails. Good luck, mate.

William Tongue

Fwiw, I love your work and will happily continue to support it as you figure things out. Specifically, I love your writing, which regularly inspires and entertains. Your travelogues are really cool and unique, so more are certainly worth waiting for as our country fails to deal with the global pandemic. I also think fiction written by you sounds really interesting, and if you enjoy it, you shouldn't have to think about it as work or time you're stealing from work. Maybe it's the radical leftist in me, but people should be allowed to have hobbies. Hbomberguy recently hired a producer to help keep him on track after he faced some similar issues to what you described about juggling different projects. I know your income level is quite different from his, but it might be something else to look into that could help.

Greg S.

Noah, I think I speak for most of your Patrens when I say we love the work you make and we are willing to wait as long as needed for you to make the best videos you can. When ever I am feeling unproductive dispite working hard on a project, I just sit and remind myself that as long as I don’t stop I will have done my job. Don’t let one point you had in one video that some people disagree with make you hate an entire peace of work and remember you have some fanboys and fangirls who always wanna hear from you or see bits of progress, so if you think there has been too long amount of time between videos, show us pictures of Simon or something. We love you Noah. - P.S. Your videos can never be too long.

James Hull

Noah, as I've said elsewhere, I think of my patreon outlay to you as a gift because I love hearing you talk about things. I don't view you as a pinata that needs a whackin' with a money stick every month so the content falls out. I've spent my life suffering from depression and it has honestly crippled my artistic output to an almost complete extent. It fucking sucks. I am so delighted to see you succeed in your expression despite the horror of what you're going through. Your refunds are no good here, sir.

Jeremy Saunders

Hey Noah, I think you need to give yourself a break, because what you are trying to resolve for yourself is impossible. There is no way to live off of the generosity of others financially without stumbling on the tensions that come with that. Its fucking terrible. Humans are not meant to be commodified. To produce content on a clock. Meaningful things take time. Healthy things take time. I'm happy that you expressed these feelings, because at least I feel like I can reach out and tell you that it's okay. You deserve to be happy and comfortable. In my opinion it's a fundamental right. No one should have to worry about the roof over their head, the food in their bellies, or be threatened with having to return to some soul crushing grindstone job to fulfill their basic needs. I dont want you to go back to some part time bullshit. Go be a mechanic. Go write fiction. If it's time for your creative output to change or for you to move on from this point in your life, than please, do so. Just dont do it out of guilt. You have found yourself in a very privileged position - and it sucks how completely out of whack that is with all the garbage most people go through on a daily basis. But you can't kill yourself over that. It's not your fault that the world is fucked. I haven't watched your TLOU2 video, but if you are truly unhappy about your trans commentary in it maybe one thing you could do is take responsibility for that and step past your own disgust and discomfort with it and use it as a stepping board to make changes in your process and follow through. I actually thought your idea about getting some more trans takes on the videos was great. It's okay to fuck up buddy - but it makes a real difference to break through your shame. If you really feel like you are taking in too much money, there must be interesting ways to offset that right - because you are right - there are many content creators that would be really helped with a little boost. Let's find them and boost them.

Alex Williams

I'm not going to type out a long and gushy paragraph about my opinion. I'll just make this as clear as I can. You wouldn't be getting any money from me if I didn't think that your videos were worth the wait. I need something to listen to when I find myself driving a good six hours out of the day. I trust that you will release something new, soon enough. And trust me. I know the feeling of despondency that comes from feeling like you aren't earning your income. All the same, you're still getting it from all of us. Take that into consideration whenever you're getting caught up by all of this.

Symmetrymaster

So, there's a lot to unpack here, but it seems like a lot of it is coming from what is essentially a form of imposter syndrome - or, at the very least, something resembling it where you feel you don't 'deserve' the success/money/etc you've fallen into through your labor. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I pledge to you /precisely because/ I trust in your artistic drives and vision, and thus far that trust hasn't been disappointed. There is a distinctly small niche of long-form video game in-depth critique videos that approach the medium as if they were themselves works of art, rich with themes and nuance as any classic fiction book, and while there are others who scratch a similar itch, I don't think I've found anyone familiar with the work space who would not rank you in the top 5. The touches you might consider 'amateur' are, to me, the most enjoyable things about your videos. I don't feel like I'm mainlining content into my brain, listening to someone sped up 25% who has edited out all of the pauses between words and sentences and backed it all with a low-key techno dance beat, I feel like I'm listening to a friend who's sat back on the couch and is talking at length about a subject he is passionately lost in or, in more serious cases, a lecturer giving an impressive dialectic on the depth and nuance of the medium I would never have noticed had they not pointed it out, and that kind of experience is worth contributing towards, for me. I can't really speak to the Lev issue, as I am not a part of the aggrieved demographic, but I would suspect that most reasonable people would see how you have recognized your mistake, apologized, and promised to take steps to avoid making that mistake in the future to be an acceptable mea culpa. If they do not, then no one is compelling them to continue supporting you, so that issue does somewhat seem to sort it out, but I do think you've taken the steps you could once the milk is spilled, and that's the best we can really hope for. It may seem like a lot of money, but speaking as a software developer that pulls in more digits than I should making products that will probably never actually be used, let me assure you there are less useful things to be produced for far more egregious sums of money. What you do brings tangible joy to enough people that they have, collectively, decided to provide your living simply for doing it. In olden times this could only be achieved by greatly pleasing one or two wealthy nobles, but the age of the internet has lowered the barrier such that the same can be done by making the lives of thousands of people slightly more pleasant, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I do hope you continue to do what you are passionate about. If you think that those passions extend beyond the scope of the patreon, you might consider thinking of this as your 'job' and take 30-40 hours of week working on it, and have the rest to yourself to do with what you will. I don't think anyone could hold that against you, and it's what most people do for their daily bread, one way or the other. If you do decide to go forward with the east coast Fallout videos, I hope I can tempt you to swing by some afternoon. I'd love to buy you a round and show you DC.

Leighton Carden

I don't follow Twitter, so this comes as a bit of a surprise to me, because I've never felt anything close to disappointed with your videos. I don't keep track of exactly how many minutes and exactly how many months. When a new video appears, it's always a treat, and I know I'll rewatch it and share it and think about it and talk about it. And the videos have only been getting better in my opinion. I get wanting to improve your craft, but I've honestly never cared about audio quality, breaks, skips, whatever. The criticism levied at that has always felt needlessly nit-picky when compared with the actual writing of the video. I'd be happy listening to videos with the quality of your first few for years and years. The writing is what I'm here for. I love the travel videos, and would absolutely love to see more of them. The idea of you writing fiction sounds genuinely fascinating and I would keep my Patreon pledge even if that was all you were doing. I know you acknowledged that many of these criticisms are bad faith, but the "What the fuck happened to you" comment feels like pure, hateful bullshit. Money changed you? That idea is absurd to me. People jump on YouTubers for making money when they'll respect movie stars who make hundreds of times more. Your writing quality speaks for itself. Over the past few years, I've seen more and more folks get into your videos and talk more deeply about them. I've loved having conversations with friends and family about the new releases. It's difficult to separate this, but I feel like this criticism is coming from an angry and loud but small minority, because out of everyone I've shown your work to, I've only heard more and more praise as time goes on. I still rewatch your travel videos with my brother every year. If you have to shuffle money and priorities around to make some folks happy, I get that. Personally, I don't care what type of Noah content I get, be that game, travel, novel, whatever. As long as you're making it, and it's as good as it's always been, I'll keep watching it.

Stephen Rubio

With respect, you produce content I enjoy, and while I’m sure everyone on your pattern would want a video a week or some insane thing if they could get it, I think it’s worth waiting for quality. This patreon support is me, as a sovereign individual capable of judging my best interests, willingly contributing to your process. Because I enjoy your work more than most. I understand that depression is gonna shroud all this in doubts regardless, but consider that we know what we are doing, and that if investing in you betters your life, we’re aware and okay with it. Hell, glad for it. And if the content peters out one day, or if you do become the things you genuinely worry about yourself becoming, trust that your audience and patrons will recognize it and step away. For now, your content is enjoyable and thought-provoking and that's why we're here. This channel is the reason I signed up for Patreon. Because of that, I've patroned a handful of other content creators that I never would have before. What you do has helped other people you didn't even realize. Sure, it's a job, and sure, it's more money than you'd expect but still, I wonder how many other people here have gone from supporting your channel to supporting others as well, if only a dollar. I think depression and quality standards are not something people will hold against you. For me, depression adds a surcharge on everything. It's like I need more inertia to get things going, so I cannot imagine how it must be for these sprawling projects. Incidentally, comments on here are IMPOSSIBLE to edit from a phone.

Kale Perrien

Noah, I hear so much self-criticism and, as someone who struggles with depression too, I wish I could show you that you are enough, and the work you do is enough. Sometimes, with mental illness, we can be good to everyone but ourselves. I see a kindness and humility in your writing that is present nowhere else on the internet. The way you talk about games reminds me of why I've loved them since childhood, even old cRPGs that I'll never even touch. You try so much harder to include social context than other critics, and it's OK that you fell short once. You did the work to understand how your take on Lev went wrong, and it doesn't seem like you'll do it again. I don't feel ripped off by your upload schedule, because your process has created media that affects me emotionally like nothing else. Take your time, and make something that you like. I'm sure we will too. I hear what you're saying about money, and I was wondering if you've thought about hiring someone to create a website or some sort of larger web presence? I have some experience with coding and web development and I'm based in the PNW, let me know if that's something that interests you!

Daniel Seroussi

For me personally, I am not looking to "get a video out each month". I chose to donate in support of whatever endeavors you want to pursue, and feel validated in seeing your many, amazing projects since then.

Jujubeans

Noah, I couldn't put it better than the people above. I love the work that you do, full stop. I'm going to keep right on as I am because it's about my own gratitude. People like you, who think and care and feel like you do, make this world a better place to live in. Thank you so much for the post. It means a lot to hear where your heart is at. From another person who is all too often a "glass half empty" sort, I hope you'll entertain the other side with me for a second. 900 of over one thousand people, when presented with the same details, -do- support your plans. I missed that poll (I don't check Twitter much) but I am in with the 90%. Keep on keeping on.

Daniel Philips

I cannot articulate with the same level of detail and care the positive opinions and affirmations that others have posted here, so I’ll just say this: My monthly Patreon pledge stands. I am content with what you have done, are doing and are planning to do, and will continue to support you doing it. Since that was what you wanted made clear from patrons, I hope this helps. You are a wonderful person, and your videos have been a crucial and entertaining part of my life for years now, and I only started donating recently anyway. If some people think that means I’m somehow being conned, they are either lying, blind or mad. I wish you and your family all the best with whatever the future brings.

Peyton Helix

I almost never write anything on Patreon, but I really love the work you do, Noah, so I thought I'd make sure to break my silence at least this once to let you know how much your videos mean to me, and that I hope I'm always solvent enough to keep supporting you. So far, so good.

Tim Marsh

I can't comment on the tokenism bit, but I can tell you that what you said about God of War is wrong. Just because you can't complete the game as skillfully as others doesn't mean that your opinion and analysis of the gameplay and story is invalid. Most of us loved that analysis from you. Also, we knew about the pace of your releases when we agreed to back you on Patron. We aren't complaining.

Brian Baro

All of your writing, original, analytical, rambling, anecdotal, and everything in-between; inspires me. It has since I first discovered your channel and has continued to do so until today, and today absolutely nothing changed how I feel about you and your work. In fact, it may have only reassured my opinion of your content. Best wishes to you, all your projects, and every artistic avenue you'd ever like to pursue. Write that novel!!!! I'd kill to read it.

Doitashimattress

I really feel like the majority of your audience loves your work. I do. The people who hound you about not being professional enough, or not making regular vids, whatever, are assholes. It's unlikely they're paying for what you do. Depression is a hard son of a bitch that makes everything worse, and here I really feel like that, coupled with a vocal minority of aggressive jerks, is giving you a bad mindset. So settle it and ask here if the people supporting you are happy with what you do?

Ryan Aston

Noah, you are without a doubt one of the most authentic and honest commentators on video games today and still continue to surprise me with your humility. I've never once had a month pass where I have felt some sort of resentment or anger towards the lack of a video from you, because I trust that you are doing your best and I appreciate that your life is complex and difficult in its own ways. Your response to the criticism in the Last of Us 2 video was more than I would ever hope to see in other critics, and while I did leave a comment calling the issue out I did not once worry for a moment that you would abandon your empathy or your ethics - rather I worried that you would be defeaned by the shouts and perhaps retreat from your work. I am absolutely confident I have gotten more than my return on investment, and grateful that the miracle of the Internet means I can contribute to the creation of these videos by sending my money across the globe to fund the work of a unique commentator. Perhaps think of your Patreon not as a contract employer but rather like the royalties on a regularly publishing author - the success is not a cry for higher output but rather a back payment on the thousands of unpaid hours you spent becoming the person who makes such videos. Moreover, I think it is safe to say that you can always count on your audience to respond if you lose your way, and that anyone subscribing to your Patreon understands we are all flawed humans who make mistakes every day but must still get upon waking and do our best to be better. All of which is to say: You're welcome and thank you.

Kim Wincen

Noah, can you settle this by putting up a poll asking the audience here if they're happy with your work and output?

Ryan Aston

I also upped my pledge to you because I just realized that Patreon has been trying to charge a non-existent card for the last who-knows-how-long. Whoops.

Argus

What Argus wrote

Magnus

My dude. We pay you because you make us happy, because you make content that we love and bring an angle to gaming discourse that’s different and cool. We aren’t your boss, we’re your fans. We aren’t expecting X hours of work or a specific factory-scale output; we’re expecting you to be you, into a microphone, when you feel like you can be Maximum You. I run a - way smaller - Patreon, and I understand exactly how depression can make it feel like your work is never enough, or how self imposed deadlines can leave a toxic pit in your stomach. How making money makes just as much guilt. I cant fix that. But I can say this: your videos have made my life better. If I have to give you ten bucks a month to show that, a hundred, a thousand, then I will. Your art makes the world more interesting and more thoughtful, and one screwup or misstep won’t change that. Don’t work on a deadline if you don’t think you can. Just make cool stuff at your own speed, and I at least will be here to watch it.

Argus

This is a very thoughtful post, and shows that you care greatly both about your output and about your supporters. Speaking purely for myself, I'm actually entirely happy with your output level. The videos you produce are quite long and have a lot of content. Certainly enough to tide me over. While there are many excellent game reviewers/analyzers out there, you offer a unique and valuable insight (your clear enthusiasm is infectious). I don't always agree with your analyses (and really, why should anyone always agree with another person's?), but they're always engaging and I can generally understand where you are coming from. I also enjoy the conversational feel of the videos. That said, self-improvement is always a good thing, so if you want to take a more polished approach, more power to you. Personally, I do not think you have any reason to be ashamed of what you're being paid (as you are working quite hard--you mention putting your nose to the grindstone to play through these games, and that is still work even if you're "playing"), but it shows considerable honesty on your part to want to make sure your supporters are satisfied. Anyway, I'm more than satisfied with what I've been seeing, and I look forward to seeing more.

WellTemperedClavier


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