"1. The way we feel about it proves that some sort of objective morality does exist"
tl;dr "Feelings = facts"
"(He doesn't consider it CONSISTENT for a materialist to disapprove of aspects of reality.)"
I know. He said that. But why? I guess because of the ridiculous realm of forms shit? To disapprove of something is to posit the existence of something else which is supernatural? Ehh, it's a mess.
Logicked
2022-06-30 13:10:43 +0000 UTC
For a title I might suggest:
"Evil is a problem for Atheists too... "
Keith Levkoff
2022-06-30 05:37:46 +0000 UTC
I don't agree in the least - because I agree with the explanations Logicked offered.
However I DO understand what he's trying to claim.
He's drawing a parallel...
He is essentially saying that people like this are evil.
And WE atheists say that "the existence of evil is a problem for a belief in a benign god".
But HE is claiming that "the existence of EVIL also does demand a supernatural explanation".
And that:
1. The way we feel about it proves that some sort of objective morality does exist
2. That a supernatural explanation is required to "explain this degree of evil"
(He doesn't consider it CONSISTENT for a materialist to disapprove of aspects of reality.)
Keith Levkoff
2022-06-30 05:22:59 +0000 UTC
You got it right. The same old tired argument.
Brian Gibson
2022-06-30 03:06:11 +0000 UTC
This guy is as confusing as the rabbi who opined on wishful thing!
Iheart Dogs
2022-06-30 01:31:36 +0000 UTC
As a borne and breaded Atheist I find no problem of evil. I was raised to scoff & mock, to rebuke and deny and to blaspheme. Evil was 1st nature and as easy as falling off a cross.
Foppish Dilletaunt
2022-06-30 01:05:34 +0000 UTC
I wasn't able to follow what he said, but from your explanation it sounds like "Images appear in my mind, so they must exist......... somewhere? "
Isaac o
2022-06-30 00:29:34 +0000 UTC
What is his actual argument here? Because what I am getting is "humans are social creatures that make rules of acceptable group behavior, therefore god."