The B.E.E. Podcast - 8/1/19 - Joe Escalante - SILVER

I'm with the producer dude! Sorry, man, I can't recall your name. But, I think of you and my comments are as much for you as for Bret. Blink 182 was such shit. I'm 53, so they weren't on my radar like they were for you. I still call that Foo Fighters guy, "Nirvana's new drummer." That is also a big, HUGE pile of shit. That guy has to be one of the luckiest coattail riders of all time. He shows up after all the work is done and the main dude dies. Now he is a zillionaire for doing nothing. He and Courtney Love are both zillionaire whores.

Antonio Primavera

Adam is ~really~ getting his panties in a twist over Blink-182, so much that it must be fed by envy!

Chris Wright

Hahaha -- right on!

James Dardis

In general, guests fall roughly into three categories - have an opinion of the Eagles band, have a slight-to-no memory of the Eagles band - or think Bret is referring to the Philadelphia Eagles.

Dave

Blink-182 is a classic case of the difference bt "punk" as a genre and "punk" as a culture. They are to punk what Nelly was to Hip-hop. Also not punk: anyone who teaches catechism or any other form of obedience and submission. Escalante is very intelligent and I enjoyed listening to he and Bret talk about watching movies as teenagers in LA. I'm fairly new to the podcast. Is there an episode where a guest doesn't have a too-cool-for-school opinion of the Eagles?

James Dardis

Sick one guys

George Barnett

Interesting, I don’t even like politics at all, but I like when BEE talks about it.

Peter litvin

Agreed

Peter litvin

Escalante was just okay. I do not find him particularly interesting or relevant. Also, he’s a little to clean and a little too nice. I want a dirty guest! I finished the episode, but I often found myself bored and wanting to more. Please find a way to have Sam Hyde as a guest. If I contract a terminal illness, I will get in touch with the Make-A-Wish foundation people to make this a reality.

Peter litvin

Crawl was so good. Wasn't even going to watch it until I saw Aja and remembered his interview. It's like a level 1 DnD campaign. All situational and using believable tools to out think the problem.

James_Sobotka

FYI there were no separate entrances in English pubs for working class customers and 'gentlemen in bowler hats' - you are thinking of 'Mary Poppins'

Nick Rowell

By the way, did you see this Bret ? Tom Cruise as Patrick Bateman in AP : it's crazy ! https://youtu.be/hSbBf4REAA8

Léo S.

I liked Chernobyl but I totally agree about the anti-Trump vibe. It felt like it was a parabol of today's fake news. More generally, I think it's a story that shouldn't be told by americans.

Léo S.

Maybe my 🎧 but this is so quiet.

BRC

Chernobyl was tok depressing; had to turn it off

Brooke Clifford Porter

That was lovely

The Bret Easton Ellis Podcast

I'm in a nightclub in Lancelot Court listening to the BEE Podcast on my BOSE earbuds. While appreciating the review for Chernobyl I have to sigh when he brings up Trump. "Leave it out, m8," I say to myself, "Who's bringing 'im up now? Oo's trump'd now, aye?" And as I watch the dancing figures in the strobe, I ask myself why someone with such an appreciation for visual content hasn't yet once mentioned Peter Greenaway in any of his reviews, and I wonder if BEE really isn't as much of a film buff as his band of snowtroops think he is...

phuq paytch

Great episode - thumbs up! I hadn’t heard anyone discuss “Sandinista” in ages. The album was a good example of the expectations with which a big new record title debuted in those days followed by listening to whole album while poring through the liner notes. Keep up the good work!

Dave

It was somehow so appropriate: I just saw "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" at a down-at-heels movie theater in a NYC suburb (broken seats; weak air con). The movie-going experience had a golden age, too. But that is long past.

Michael Walsh

Agreed, and two famous movie stars

Sebastian ospina

Loved this episode. Anytime The Replacements get mentioned, I’m happy. I really enjoyed Chernobyl too. I thought the allusions to Trump were pretty obvious to be honest. Didn’t make me enjoy the show any more or less though. I disagreed with Bret when he spoke about Big LittleLies being the first time a viewer could have a cinematic experience watching television. For me, True Detective season 1 was the first time something like that happened. One director, one writer, self contained. To me, it felt like an 8 hour movie. Anyway, any chance of getting Paul Westerberg on the show, Bret? Or Axl Rose?

Iain

Great podcast until you started talking about politics (as always). It seems Democrat’s came away more convinced from the Mueller hearing, and Republicans less. I personally didn’t know Lewandowski had been dispatched to contact Manafort. Or that Trump had ordered McGahn to fire Mueller. Witness tampering and obstruction. But partisanship and ignorance rule.

Sebastian ospina

I mean it wasn’t exactly anti-trump, but Craig Mazin said (and I agree) that you can definitely draw comparisons to the USSR and its treatment of science and data with the way the Trump admin refuses to even include the words “climate change” in official papers. So if the creator/writer said it... 🤔

Sebastian ospina

Interesting to hear how in the US the Trump criticism is identified in Chernobyl. Having watched from Hungary our take was that a., it really went down something like that (I was born in the early 80s next to the Ukrainian border - one can argue that in the mid-late 80s things were not that bad anymore in the USSR, but my mom said they only started acknowledging something happened when the Swedes started to freak about the the radiation they measured). b, nothing really changed since (for almost 10 years now we have a prime minister triggering the same social hysteria/approval you guys just started experiencing with Trump). But the greatest joke which is the cherry on the top of the whole political message of the HBO series, if it had one, is that now Russia is developing their own version, indicating the CIA had something to do with the catastrophy: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/07/chernobyl-hbo-russian-tv-remake

Sértő-Radics Sarolta

It was, like, an event. Not since I was a kid do I remember anticipating a movie like this. Kinda weird, no? Maybe through script secrecy and a good hype machine and the aura of QT 9/10 and just, ugh, just all of it. This was so special. Please go for it in a big way. (I just read two out of this world retarded new yorker reviews by formely OK critics...please put this right.)

Tim Rinaldi

Hey, Brett (Todd, Adam, God knows who), I have never posted on this and will likely never again (not because I don't love you guys), but can you just do the biggest fucking deep dive ever into the new Tarantino? Like, the whole forty five minutes in the beginning. Just go and go and go and say whatever else you have to say after and no one will mind. DO IT. xoxo - Tim

Tim Rinaldi

I'm going to guess that The Eagles song Joe was referring to was I Can't Tell You Why. Smooth jam. Was hoping that Bret would talk more about Euphoria. I had to turn it off during the second episode because it was utterly depressing, but then decided that I had to know what happened and I got hooked. Yes, it's kind of annoying with it's virtue signaling and Gen Z is hard to relate to as someone near 40, but I thought it was very well done, interesting and quite plainly, horrifying. It is kind of like a psychological horror in a way. The carnival episode I thought was edited beautifully. I'd give it another shot Bret! Loved the reminiscing about SoCal and curious to know how the Olympics in '84 changed LA. That's the year we moved just north of LA and I remember it being an exciting time as a kid. Love those old stories, keep em coming!

Phoenix

If Craig Mazin has a bug up his ass about Trump, that distinguishes him from the rest of Hollywood scarcely at all, no?

Michael Walsh

That is interesting. If Mazin did want to make Chernobyl an anti-Trump thing he wasn't very successful. I never saw anything particularly anti-Trump about it, just anti-politician. Contrast that with Too Old to Die Young where I certainly felt that there was stuff about either Trump or the political climate in the US.

BladdyK

Surely the slow eagles ballad song he was talking about was 'take it to the limit' no? Totally agree with the Blink 182 defense. They're pop punk, but the roots of that are punk. It's not 'pure punk' but whatever.

Billy Vega

haven't listened to this podcast yet, was hoping bret would wait for the 4 hour netflix version to give his rundown commentary for OUATIH

sean in hawaii

I don't think anything would be spoiled too much for you. But I'm not even sure I believe a movie can be spoiled unless there's something terribly uptight and belligerent with the viewer in the first place. I guess there's a few movies with major plot points that would be not so cool to reveal but no, I think you'll mostly be okay if you listen to this episode now. And you can always stop mid-way if I'm wrong.

Chris Wright

He doesn't review Once Upon A Time... in this ep, hopefully next episode!

Caroline Johnson

I haven't listened yet because I'm in the UK and Once Upon A Time in Hollywood isn't out until the 14th here. Can anyone tell me if there is a review or spoilers for that in this episode? Thanks in advance!

Reservoir Frog

Once upon a time in Hollywood review Bret. The love letter nostalgia that has pieces to all of Quentin’s films. Definitely his most mature that leaves the viewer, or for me at least with an optimistic view, almost euphoria when leaving the theater. This film is what going to the movies is about. I even bought a large drink and popcorn.

Adam Dugger

I love myself a good old fashioned podcast about alligator movies

Ant

Enjoyed your memories of seeing movies young and unaccompanied in the 1970s. Looking forward to your review of "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood."

LRS

I'm just talking about the vibe one gets from Craig Mazin who wrote it and his whole political bent. I only found this out after I watched the show when I read interviews with him. Of course, I didn't just make the Trump stuff out of thin air--it was reading interviews with Mazin.

Bret Ellis

The Act was riveting. Don't know why I haven't mentioned it.

Bret Ellis

Yep, missed that one. Same with Elle vs Dakota Fanning in The Neon Demon. Losing it a bit. Michael Clayton IS awesome.

Bret Ellis

I liked 'Chernobyl' but didn't get any anti-Trump vibe, and think it would be a stretch for anybody to spin it that way. But the negative critical response seems even more far-fetched. What cinematic re-telling doesn't take liberties? There was plenty of toxic bureaucracy in the USSR, and heroism, and that was the point. As for fear of the State being a motive, Russia continues to assassinate people to this day. As for The Lion King? I wouldn't be caught dead watching a modern corporate=calculated Disney film. But a look at the boxoffice for this turd tells us that the purpose of Disney films is to give parents a safe place to park kids for a few hours.

Michael Walsh

Really want to hear BEE on The Act (the tv series). Up there with Chernobyl and Fleabag for best of the year, totally addictive and right up his alley.

David

Guess I’m going to have to increase my donation to make up for your absence

Klintorious

Dan Gilroy directed Velvet Buzzsaw, he's a bit of a ranter and raver in his movies. Tony Gilroy is his brother who wrote and directed the awesome Michael Clayton

Alex Waller

I agree. I didn't see anything anti-Trump about Chernobyl. I thought it wasn't against any political view but against politicians. The anti-Trump stuff is a stretch.

BladdyK

oh relax Jose! you'll be back. And are you quite sure that Bret's the one with the daddy issues.

Chris Wright

Jose

great episode, great guest!

Chris Wright