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Angel: 3x22 Full Reaction

Angel: 3x22 Full Reaction

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the scene where Cordy sees/talks to herself is literally just a vision of the future scene where she's in the middle of the road talking to Skip.. she's wearing the same clothes and repeats the same lines she hears " im in love with angel, i know its going to be ok" so she wasnt talking to herself she was talking to skip. Dem tricky writers

assCrackBandit

Nah, we really lost them all! Season four is just a Fred & Gunn rom com. With all supernatural characters ascending, descending, or otherwise missing, Fred and Gunn convert the hotel into, well, a hotel. Each week different celebrity guests check in, we follow their stories as they learn valuable lessons, and hilarious hijinks ensue (spoilers?).

Arlo Murphy

I like this season overall, but I agree with you about Justine. A very despicable, manipulative character. And of course she was on Angel at the same time Warren was on Buffy. Both very hateworthy characters.

Steve Quast

Also the face you made when you said they were having Wesley sleep with Lilah, lol that was offensive lmao leave my fav Angel ship alone

madfem

It's funny that you think that we REALLY just lost like half the cast... like gurl please you know the writers are just playing w you right

madfem

I myself am very stoic. I understand what it is and how it goes and that's that.... most of the time, but I'm still human, and so is Lilah. Even a psychopath gets hurt over something.

Morgan Williams

This gave me some food for thought. I around the time of "Buffy", "Angel", and "Supernatural" developed an opinion that show creators did not know how to wrap up the story. Seems like around the five-year mark is where things drop off and the creators run out of material.

Michael Labs

I loved every season of this show! I think it's crazy that anybody would have a problem with any part of it! The entire show was amazingly creative, and so much fun!

Morgan Williams

Angel the show was struggling in the ratings, and there was pressure on Joss & Co. His new show Firefly was not doing well either, because reality TV was taking over with shows like American Idol, Survivor, The Bachelor, and Fear Factor making bank while supernatural shows were going under. The X Files Series Finale was that year, as was Roswell's Last episode. Smallville was still new and was stealing lots of viewers away. It would be a bad time for supernatural shows for a few years before they came roaring back late in the 2000s, with big budget shows like Fringe, Heroes, and Medium. So this weird no-climax ending left everyone feeling weird, and probably doomed the show, even though it gained loyal fans while losing ratings for the remaining two seasons. Buffy Season 7 did not help, and the sudden cancellation of Firefly and the very out-there Dollhouse kind of made the Whedon stuff a bit of network kryptonite. Stupid reality shows were a lot cheaper to produce and easier to market as the public ate them up. The Movies was where things were blowing up -- new Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Spider Man, The Ring, Austin Powers, Men In Black II, Blade II, even Resident Evil came out that year. TV could not compete against that kind of blockbusters, and the video rental biz was like $3 Billion in DVD sales, $1.5 Billion VHS still. Season 3 kind of lost the plot, despite a strong start with great stories and visuals and the karaoke bar. The problem I think was they could not make the team gell into the kind of team other team fighting shows do when they hit their stride -- instead everyone was so distracted and up in their own heads. The baby plot while worthy was not really what people wanted and it left people just confused, and all that. Pregnant Darla, tho -- that made heads spin. So they left it all hanging -- and who knew if they were coming back at that point, the TV industry was cancelling all kinds of shows.

spikeysnack

I hated this season so much, I have to say. Justine is one of my most hated characters on both shows. Add the smug superiority of Holtz and aged up Connor, and how it just becomes so much less interesting without Darla and I just can't stand so much of it.

Melissa

I love that Connor could read the note from Holtz. They probably have some nice little bookstores and/or schools in Quor'toth, though, tbf.

Antonio

For some reason, "I wasn't thinking about you when you were here," is one of my favourite lines in either show. I'm not sure what that says about me. There's something about the pointed cruelty of it, and it actually lands. Lilah is usually all about her strong, stoic exterior, which Angel even called her out on a few episodes earlier, but she seemed genuinely hurt by Wesley's comment.

El

Lots of confusion on my part since I don't remember how we (Angel's team) got out of this cliffhanger mess. BTW RE: Drive-In Movie theaters... I think there are 5 of them still in Wisconsin as of May 2024, including one in the Milwaukee Milkmen baseball stadium parking lot during team away games. Not sure if still active, this was a quickie lookup. Cheers.

Michael Labs

I actually missed the end of this episode when I first saw the series, so I caught most of it in flashbacks and context in season four. That was a bit of learning curve for me to catch up. It's definitely a WILD end to the season, and really feels like the entire status quo has been thrown out. Often we can think that the next season will just go right back to normal no matter how Big the previous season finale was, but after this episode we have no idea what's coming next. I don't think Wesley was specifically referencing Jesus when talking about how the Bible foretold something related to Connor. I think he was just talking about how the Bible, and all the other religions and mythologies he mentioned, all talk about NEW THINGS. Connor is the son of two vampires, and that's "impossible", but so many other things were impossible until they happened, and then they're not impossible anymore. So even though nobody yet knows how Connor happened, he's not "unprecedented in human history" (like Lilah said) since all those holy books, and even science, say that new things are going to show up.

JBK405

An eight year time jump and Connor is now a sleezy ad executive in New York.

Dusty Hill

At least you don't have to wait as long as those people watching it for the first time live did. I bet that sucked.

Morgan Williams

But yea if It was Justine's decision why did Holtz have her stab him in the neck with an ice pick...there are easier ways to go right?

Morgan Williams

It was Holtz's plan for Justine to frame Angel, not her's, she just went along with it. I know it was confusing for me at first watch to, and thought is was her, but then I thought it over, watched it over, and understood it was just like how you were saying...put yourself in Holtz's shoes, obviously despite what he said about loving Conner he was still gonna use him to wreak vengence for his family. Holtz couldn't see Conner again like he said or he wouldn't want to let him go and Conner would end up hating him like he said in his letter (cuz he wasn't through with his vengence) If I was Holtz I wouldn't see me and Angel as squared either. Holtz told Conner they'd come back for a reason, and there is more than one reason, for the good and bad, and depending on your view of what is believed to be just and right. Like they say there is a thin line between what is justice and what is vengence.

Morgan Williams

Holtz never intended to walk away and let Connor go with Angel. Having justine kill him that way was part of his plan of revenge against Angel.

Kevin Charley

Your reactions to season finales are always fun. Glad Groo was able to have a dignified exit unlike Riley's Buffy S5 exit. The Love-Lorne pun is pretty good. Looking forward to the Angel S4 reactions!

James Smith

WHILAH

Cassie

Are we going with Wihlah or Lesley for the ship name?

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth


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