"wallstreet Discord for FaB" are now banned
Added 2022-02-23 14:15:11 +0000 UTCSorry to start the day off on a negative piece of news, but this is what leads to higher prices on sale items and behind the scenes work i have to deal with on a daily basis.
There is a Flesh and Blood Discord and a section called "WALLSTREET"
Discord user "LUPERCAL" whos real name is Alexander Morreale was recently banned for swapping teirs when he wants to purchase a hot item and was caught from other members for manipulating patron payments.
Today he has decided to commit fraud by now going back in the last 6 months and creating paypal disputes and chargbacks for all purchases.
Based on the actions and problems from the "wallstreeet Discord"
All members on this list will are not-eligiblie for any purchases moving forward. When a member of this discord group sends a payment nothing will ship.
There are a couple hundred people in this group which about 30 of them are patrons.
Something simliar happened 2 years ago in a private facebook group that led to tremendous amount of fraud.
Comments
People make me sick. What a joke that guy is. Go Rudy!
2022-02-28 23:48:18 +0000 UTCI was wondering how a patron spot opened up..I think I found the answe
2022-02-28 17:31:53 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/x2YcmJgTKDc rudy: "delete!"
2022-02-27 20:31:02 +0000 UTCsry to hear ppl are trying to bamboozle you and causing extra hassle Rudy. thnx for continued work helping bring mtg/Fab/mz and others to the community at great prices
Mitchell
2022-02-27 19:11:46 +0000 UTC3 please
Jordan W Gulasey
2022-02-26 02:02:30 +0000 UTCIs there any other discord aside from the Metazoo? I feel life is dangerous outside of it :)
2022-02-25 20:12:51 +0000 UTCFor once I'm glad I'm such a luddite. I couldn't join a secret discord channel if my life depended on it.
2022-02-25 16:38:34 +0000 UTCI don't think I ever joined that particular channel, but I did a few marketplace trades off that Discord a year ago or so, but I don't think I ever reacted to the wall street bot thing. Honestly don't remember. I'll send a PM to check if I'm on it or not.
Daniel Kuhlman
2022-02-24 13:21:53 +0000 UTCWhich cord are you talking about? What are we plugging in? Why are you talking in cat?
Michael Davis
2022-02-24 12:53:05 +0000 UTCI did a few deals with Luper before. In the beginning was great but a man is as good as the last deal. He took months to ship out an order while giving excuses every time I asked him.
Bigbee Nana
2022-02-24 05:28:38 +0000 UTCWhat a shame that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch. Good riddance to these cheaters!
Philip Chiu
2022-02-24 05:07:17 +0000 UTCI’d hate to be Rudy’s inbox right now.
Brandon Nolte
2022-02-24 03:26:20 +0000 UTCSalty Whale Discord is a FAB Centric Alternative :) No scumbags there!
2022-02-24 03:26:03 +0000 UTCFuk people like this. Sorry to hear this happened to you Rudy.
2022-02-24 02:04:37 +0000 UTCSucks cause goons like this ruin any chance of us Timmys at least being able to chat without clogging up Rudy’s Patreon. No idea what this group is, but it sucks. We should have a TimmyCon in FL or something
Patrick Deitner
2022-02-24 01:14:02 +0000 UTCSo if you’re in the main FAB Discord but never got into Wall Street section you’re good?
Nathaniel Fox Ferrante
2022-02-24 01:12:14 +0000 UTCwow
Phillip Cross
2022-02-24 01:02:45 +0000 UTCPM Rudy. If you are a long time member with good standing it may not be an issue.
BrewCrew75
2022-02-24 00:14:54 +0000 UTCPM sent
2022-02-24 00:01:22 +0000 UTCWell, I guess I'm collateral damage for having unlocked that wall street section a long time ago. See everyone around.
Varrisk
2022-02-24 00:00:59 +0000 UTCScumbags.
matteo gallo
2022-02-24 00:00:34 +0000 UTCIt’s things like this that make harder for everyone else, glad they are gone good riddance. Sorry this had to happen to you Rudy.
Thomas Truong
2022-02-23 23:57:55 +0000 UTCHow can we tell if we are on the list? I don't think I am because I don't follow wallstreet stuff. But I'm in a FAB discord though I think it's just a north America fan discord
Michael L
2022-02-23 22:50:47 +0000 UTCDon’t know people are assuming the alternative. Seemsmoretty
Seth Peterson
2022-02-23 22:48:29 +0000 UTCYou're still fantastic in my book!
2022-02-23 22:46:37 +0000 UTCPurge the garbage! Good riddance! 👏
animusdivide.ttv
2022-02-23 22:28:06 +0000 UTCcrazy stuff
Matthew Costello
2022-02-23 22:20:51 +0000 UTCThe lesson here is that there is always someone out there that will garrote their neighbor for a piece of cheese Chaotic-neutral is the way to go in the world we live in today
2022-02-23 22:02:39 +0000 UTCSent Pm Rudy :) Im sorry this ever had to happen, people suck :/
Matthew McCrae
2022-02-23 22:02:32 +0000 UTCGlad you took action. You never know how coordinated the scammery goes.
2022-02-23 22:02:16 +0000 UTCI would just like to confirm I am not on the list. I am in the Main FAB Discord but I don't think I'm in the Wall Streets channel. I at least can't see it on my discord but I don't know discord well enough to know how all the different groups work. I just want to be able to order my Metazoo...
2022-02-23 22:00:36 +0000 UTCPm sent. My last message was deleted. I'm assuming I've been caught up in something I didn't do =[ I didn't know that joining a discord would ever be a problem.
Infinite War
2022-02-23 21:07:53 +0000 UTCOh wow that sucks Rudy! Good thing you got your papers in order so his disputes will mean nothing but that is annoying to deal with! How exactly was he swapping tiers? I thought you couldn’t do that since the slot is closed out pretty quickly? Glad I stay away from all these groups.
Gold
2022-02-23 20:59:08 +0000 UTCMust be frustrating to have someone do stuff like that and f everybody else up. Sorry to see and hope you all get resolution
Kevin Ryu
2022-02-23 20:43:21 +0000 UTCIm wondering the same
2022-02-23 20:31:33 +0000 UTCSent a PM
Ryan Baker
2022-02-23 20:20:53 +0000 UTCNothing like a juicy cleanse, i can't imagine the amount of shit you had to put up with with patreon and chargebacks these past few months
2022-02-23 20:20:25 +0000 UTCNice to wake up, see that im banned because a discord group I've been in for years has one bad member.
2022-02-23 20:16:37 +0000 UTCHey Rudy, PM sent
2022-02-23 20:08:22 +0000 UTCI remember the days when the reccomended advice was to use a unique ID in every platform and not disclose other pseudonyms in different communities. Nowadays anonymity doesn't just seem to not be a concern for most people in the same way, but so many treat it as a downside. And even with the old ways kicking around in my head, I'm down to like two pseudonyms I use across all platforms and can pretty easily identified even places where I don't just have explicit bio links. It makes me feel old, and I don't even turn 36 until November 😵💫
Brent Walker
2022-02-23 19:42:18 +0000 UTCSorry you have to deal with this Rudy. You provide solid value to your patrons and it sucks someone would try to scam you like this.
2022-02-23 19:38:59 +0000 UTCCards for the Card God?
Brent Walker
2022-02-23 19:35:25 +0000 UTCGlad this was caught.
Marco Doucette
2022-02-23 19:19:35 +0000 UTCPM sent, sorry to hear that you had to deal with this :(
William Xu
2022-02-23 19:11:24 +0000 UTCHey all, maybe someone has this answer for me; Rudy’s inbox prob swamped atm. I’m in the main FaB disc for tts but never reacted to the bot in that channel. Does this impact my standing? Thanks
Omar El Mossalamy
2022-02-23 18:45:47 +0000 UTCTo lighten the mood a bit: A grasshopper walks into a bar and the Bartender say: “Hey we have a drink named after you!” The grasshopper replies: “You have a drink named STEVE?!” …I will be here all week!
BrewCrew75
2022-02-23 18:42:46 +0000 UTCHilarious movie.
Caleb P
2022-02-23 18:35:10 +0000 UTCThank goodness I'm a good boi
Bjorn Kiljan
2022-02-23 18:12:08 +0000 UTCYou know, you'd think this kind of thing is rare, but apparently people really like to create chaos and think that they can game a system that literally tracks every single movement of money they attempt to make.
Kevin W. Werges
2022-02-23 18:08:33 +0000 UTCWell said! I agree 100% with this!
2022-02-23 17:57:34 +0000 UTCHey, Rudy. Pm'd you.
2022-02-23 17:48:53 +0000 UTCRidiculous! Anything we can do to help Rudy let us know! Bad eggs ruin it for everyone!
Tracee Campbell
2022-02-23 17:46:53 +0000 UTCHey, Rudy! Pm’d just to make sure I’m safe. Much love to ya brother, and hope to buy some stuff when taxes come in <3
Elijah Bishop
2022-02-23 17:45:14 +0000 UTCThere's a discord?!
Napoleon Pershing Cornelius
2022-02-23 17:43:03 +0000 UTCSucks that you need to deal with this mess. Thanks for all the work you do.
Eric Mancini
2022-02-23 17:39:09 +0000 UTCYou know your safe when you don’t understand a thing in the post Rudy sent. I was like “what’s Discord?!”
BrewCrew75
2022-02-23 17:38:52 +0000 UTCThe Lupercal? Not surprising at all that a supporter of Horus would resort to such treachery. Ban the traitors, for the Card Emperor!!
Matthew Millett
2022-02-23 17:38:44 +0000 UTCSorry about having to deal with this Rudy. Since I've never played Flesh and Blood, I'm just going to assume I'm okay.
Shafeen Mahmud
2022-02-23 17:36:26 +0000 UTCIm part of the FaB discord but i never posted on any of the channels. Am i banned?
alldaytaytay
2022-02-23 17:26:30 +0000 UTCI missed the last fab sale and would also like some more kamigawa collector boxes. If any of that product was headed to them, I'd buy some!
2022-02-23 17:22:23 +0000 UTCF Sorry you deal with crap like this
Cory
2022-02-23 17:21:51 +0000 UTCAlso pm’d.
TempestCards
2022-02-23 17:16:32 +0000 UTClets not forget though that roughly 98% of people are good people. Rudy built a huge empire and that is always going to attract a disproportionate amount of scammers who want to cause problems and try to tear him down. It's a symptom of success
Derek
2022-02-23 17:16:23 +0000 UTCI PM’d you sir, I unfortunately was in the channel, but never participated in discussions - lurked occasionally months ago and have not viewed it recently.
2022-02-23 17:15:27 +0000 UTCAnd this is why I don't join finance discord servers lol
2022-02-23 17:10:21 +0000 UTCDamn.... Rudy got to Rudy
Colin Butler
2022-02-23 17:10:09 +0000 UTCUnfortunate Rudy but we get it. Do what you have to, I'll be sure to watch out for groups like this in the future!
Roy Musick
2022-02-23 17:08:38 +0000 UTCPM sent
2022-02-23 17:08:01 +0000 UTCI had been in the discord. PM sent.
J man2
2022-02-23 17:06:57 +0000 UTCHi Rudy, I’m part of the main FAB discord, but I don’t think I ever joined the Wall Street section, am I on the list?
Tiffany Le
2022-02-23 17:05:32 +0000 UTCSent DM
Ryan Stiltz
2022-02-23 17:03:07 +0000 UTCsent you a pm rudy, no idea if I'm on that list or not but I'm in a bunch of different discords. Its unfortunate someone felt they had to game the system to save a few bucks for no reason
Richard Smith
2022-02-23 17:02:53 +0000 UTCWe are all peices of shit, given the opportunity. Most just never have the oppurtunity. A lock is simply a means, to keep an honest man honest. Glad i live under a rock, n jus like my fancy cardboard for my own personal hoard. Greatly appreciate all the wisdom, n humor, you portray. Fuck em man. It's lonely at the top.
2022-02-23 17:01:18 +0000 UTCNo one is immune from assholes
2022-02-23 17:00:47 +0000 UTCI am not in that discord community at all so forgive me for being confused by this post. Can you shed some light on the "actions and problems" coming from the Wallstreet channel? Were others also doing charge backs or is this more of a strategic decision to mitigate additional fraud risk?
Gabriel Mortensen
2022-02-23 16:54:36 +0000 UTCThe silver lining is that at least 1 person wanting to get in the Patreon will get a slot
Ernest Kunitake
2022-02-23 16:50:10 +0000 UTCHey Rudy! Sorry this had to happen. As a retail shop owner this is an unfortunate reality but I appreciate the firm response. If we all treated these things like the fraud it is and not just a cost of doing business the amount of occurrences would drop.
Andrew N
2022-02-23 16:48:04 +0000 UTCHey Rudy, I joined a FaB discord from Reddit or smth a while ago but have had it on mute for ever and just saw this post. Wanted to make sure I'm safe 🙏
Aaron Shaffer
2022-02-23 16:46:20 +0000 UTCHoly shit
Craig Mckenzie
2022-02-23 16:42:36 +0000 UTCLooks like that channel is gone now? Never knew it existed but I don’t see it on the discord now I’m looking around.
Bash
2022-02-23 16:39:31 +0000 UTCSorry you have to deal with this stuff. Thanks for sticking with it and offering your great services!
Paul Makl
2022-02-23 16:37:07 +0000 UTCRudy, Rudy, Rudy. I don't know how you do it. What a waste of intelligence, emotion, time, product, and cash.
2022-02-23 16:32:45 +0000 UTCI hope you make a video explaining what happened here. That dude needs to be on blast for being a 100% piece of shit. It didn't even occur to me that someone would change their pledge from month to month. I just assumed it was an on or off thing and if you turned it off there was no guarantee you could turn it back on later. But, then I don't think like a criminal. And, the charge backs is just plain robbery. PayPal shouldn't be allowing that kind of shit. That makes me not want to ever use PayPal to sale anything ever.
Pharone
2022-02-23 16:30:44 +0000 UTCRudy can you post the list or let us know who's on it? I have access but not been active at all. I've been a Patron from you longer than the Discord.
Bryan Quan
2022-02-23 16:29:09 +0000 UTCHey just want to make sure I'm not on the list. Not sure which discord this is.
Dung Le (Yung)
2022-02-23 16:26:23 +0000 UTCNot part of the discord thankfully but regardless, there is some low life folks out there that have nothing better to do than playing bad tricks on good people and commit fraud. Really unfortunate situation but happy to see Rudy bringing the hammer out.
2022-02-23 16:23:22 +0000 UTCDon’t worry! Every patron in that group “joined by accident” and “never participated”! Phew! 🙄
2022-02-23 16:22:48 +0000 UTCThis is incredibly frustrating and I’m sorry to hear about this. As a small business owner myself, I can empathize with you on the emotion surrounding chargebacks. There’s pretty much nothing worse than this. People fail to realize the consequences of this behavior and it’s one of those things that can actually tilt the house of cards. Like others have mentioned above, I am also a member of the Flesh and Blood Discord and have access to this channel, but haven’t posted there in several months. The community is rather toxic and woke and offers little value other than the awareness of what other people are thinking. Would gladly say Bye Felicia to that group. More than anything, I hope from all these comments above you can see the outpouring of love and support from this community. You are appreciated for what you do Rudy, and it is always a joy when a new video pops up on YouTube and I can put up some background entertainment while sorting cards. Thank you.
Trevor Baker
2022-02-23 16:20:24 +0000 UTCSame. I'm not active in that one either. Way too much chatter
2022-02-23 16:18:06 +0000 UTCI'm just hear to eat tacos and buy cheap magic.
Brandon Swift
2022-02-23 16:17:38 +0000 UTCFFS, this is why we can't hve nice things...I imagine it would be way too much work to deal with this shit and sort through everything. I'll be surprised if Rudy is still doing this 24 months from now.
Llanowar Shelves
2022-02-23 16:15:55 +0000 UTCDon’t recall if I had joined that discord but if I did I already left it months ago as I haven’t had it on my joined list of about 12, so I’m guessing there shouldn’t be an issue in that kinda case.
Jalena W
2022-02-23 16:15:03 +0000 UTCFlorida Justice!
Drew
2022-02-23 16:14:27 +0000 UTCThank you for this! Was very worried. my discord only shows wall-street-disclaimer, and I was worried I was part of the ban list.
Jason Antokal
2022-02-23 16:13:45 +0000 UTCI'm in some fab discords, also not active as many aren't. Should I pm you to see. I like being on lists but this one ..I'd rather not.
2022-02-23 16:13:29 +0000 UTCJust saw this email. Don't know if I'm affected or not. I was part of the fab discord. Let me know. I don't recall having to accept a disclaimer
2022-02-23 16:10:57 +0000 UTCHow can we check with u if we are on the list? I I lurk in that channel sometime just to see what is happening in the market. Honestly haven’t really participated. That’s unfortunate that I’m caught up in the guy’s drama.
2022-02-23 16:10:48 +0000 UTCHonestly, all of this list talk has given me a few chuckles. Reminds me of Steve Buscemi in Billy Madison or Chris Jericho when he had his you just made the list schtick. Having said that, I feel sorry for all the honest patrons caught up in this mess. Also, screw scammers.
Randy
2022-02-23 16:09:41 +0000 UTCI'm in the community group as well. Someone mentioned wallstreet is under marketplace. When I click on marketplace, I get the message that I have to verify my phone before I can message on that server, so I'm thinking I'm ok.
Bryan Dombi
2022-02-23 16:08:12 +0000 UTCOnly 30 patrons were on the “list” I think every one of them “joined by accident” or “never participated”. If Rudy thought that was possible, he wouldn’t have come down as hard as he (rightfully) did in the OP. It’s his $$$, but ultimately fraud hurts everyone. I trust he’s smart enough to do what’s right for his business. Are there SOME fraudsters on the list of 30? I’d guess yes. So now Rudy gets to decide how valuable it is to risk letting them stay. This morning it seemed like the answer was “none”, but if a large history of no fraud is enough for him, that’s his choice. I’d point out those are also the people that could do the most damage unexpectedly, and now you have proof they at least had tangential contact (if nothing else) with a chargeback-er, but he knows that too I’m sure.
2022-02-23 16:07:59 +0000 UTCFor everyone confused: On the Discord server "Flesh & Blood TCG -Community," at the bottom of the channel list there's a channel called "#wall-street-disclaimer." To participate in #wall-street, you would've needed to react to the Carl-bot post on that channel. If you did not, you're not part of the #wall-street channel.
2022-02-23 16:06:25 +0000 UTCDon't use discord. I decided long ago to stop listening to Timmy's and make my own informed decision. Floppy tacos for all!
JODY MCCULLOUGH
2022-02-23 16:05:50 +0000 UTCI’m in the FaB discord but all I see is Wallstreet disclaimer, no wallstreet channel. Am I banned?
Jason Antokal
2022-02-23 16:05:04 +0000 UTCThere is a channel you have to accept a disclaimer to join. I sure hope it isn't a blanket ban of the entire discord channel, just those active on that thread...that would really fucking suck...
2022-02-23 16:04:32 +0000 UTC"caught from other members for manipulating patron payments" - what does this mean? How were they able to swap tiers? Wouldn't an opening in the $15 level need to exist? Regardless, that sucks. I believe I'm a member of that discord, "Flesh & Blood - TCG Community", but I've never accepted the #wall-strret-disclaimer and haven't used it in a year maybe, I don't even engage with FaB anymore...not enough time. Should I be worried I'm banned?
2022-02-23 16:02:30 +0000 UTCJust seen the appeal possibility I sent a pm
Phillip Garcia
2022-02-23 16:01:58 +0000 UTCI absolutely love tea that I’m not involved in. But I’m about to expand that horizon I think to take advantage of the evil cardboard king’s deals some more.
Justin Florio
2022-02-23 15:59:34 +0000 UTCRight. I have the same question. I have that Discord channel (never use it) but don’t even see a reference to Wall Street.
Joshua Campos
2022-02-23 15:58:52 +0000 UTCI sent a message to you Rudy, I’m in a FaB discord by invitation but never used it nor did I accept the disclaimer for the wallstreet chat.
2022-02-23 15:57:27 +0000 UTCThanks for being on top of this and cutting down on fraud Rudy - don't need people ruining things for the rest of us. Honesty wins with Rudy 🙂
Brian Lee
2022-02-23 15:56:29 +0000 UTCI am a Discord noob. Is the Discord in question Flesh & Blood TCG - Community? If so, I don’t see anything called Wall Street. Thanks!
Joshua Campos
2022-02-23 15:55:24 +0000 UTCBad apples suck.
Mark Grochowicz
2022-02-23 15:54:49 +0000 UTCPM sent.
2022-02-23 15:54:00 +0000 UTCYou're always okay on my book! 😁
2022-02-23 15:53:14 +0000 UTCPm sent. I’m on that discord but started my own recently to talk only about Fab (Salty Whale). Sorry that guy scammed you!
2022-02-23 15:52:22 +0000 UTCThere must be more than one discord, because I just re-download the app to see if I was in that group, and the only flesh and blood channel I'm on doesn't have a Wallstreet channel.
2022-02-23 15:50:11 +0000 UTCIn FaB TCG Community discord. Am I on the list? Did not even know there's a channel called wallstreet
RA
2022-02-23 15:49:56 +0000 UTCSent a PM just in case. I've been on the general FaB Discord for a while but am inactive.
2022-02-23 15:47:09 +0000 UTCWow what a prick. May he suffer for his malfeasance
2022-02-23 15:46:01 +0000 UTCPM sent! I joined that discord but never use the wallstreet section. Hoping I'm ok :)
2022-02-23 15:45:18 +0000 UTCDarn scammers. I did not know there was a FaB discord community. Now I probably would not want to join and get tangled in this mess.
2022-02-23 15:44:05 +0000 UTCAm I on the list? Pretty sure I joined the fab server ages ago but haven't been active on discord
2022-02-23 15:43:50 +0000 UTCSent a PM to be safe. I joined the FAB discord years ago but dont believe i ever accepted the disclaimer for wallstreet. I use a different username since i use discord for gaming mainly and disclosed that to rudy as well.
2022-02-23 15:41:23 +0000 UTCOMG, this needs a Rudy shirt!
Wolf and Cub Gaming
2022-02-23 15:41:20 +0000 UTCI am a member of that discord but haven’t participated in ages due to the spiraling of it. Sorry to hear about dumb people, happy to leave the entire discord group if you want us to, wall street is a channel there.
Nick Vovk
2022-02-23 15:41:16 +0000 UTCGlad I'm not in the mix. I can only focus on MTG and my YT channel. It's awesome that other companies are stepping up and having success. Just sucks there is bad apples messing it up for others. I hope you Get them out of the mix, Rudy.
2022-02-23 15:40:46 +0000 UTCUnreal... If people as much work into something real as they do into scamming, they would probably still be successful. Sorry to hear Rudy, stay positive.
2022-02-23 15:40:02 +0000 UTCYikes. Scammers. Smh. Some ppl suck
Geoff Toohey
2022-02-23 15:39:58 +0000 UTCPmd you Rudy. I’ve never posted in wallstreet. But, I want to make sure I’m ok.
Justin Quintal
2022-02-23 15:39:11 +0000 UTCBURN THE HERETICS!!
2022-02-23 15:39:02 +0000 UTCRudy out here doing good for the cardboard community and these f'ing leeches trying to mess it up for the rest of us. Kick them, ban them, shame them... I hate people so greedy the amazing profits you've helped people make isn't enough.
James Asher
2022-02-23 15:37:30 +0000 UTCRudy not everyone in that discord is a scumbag, but sorry to hear about this. 🤕
Andrew Glogowski
2022-02-23 15:34:43 +0000 UTCSent a pm. Can’t believe people would go so far.
2022-02-23 15:34:01 +0000 UTCRudy is far more trusting than I would be… Here’s to hoping it doesn’t bite him. Sadly I think it will, but hey, it’s his money. You’re too good of a guy sometimes Rudy. Probably why so many people like you eh? 😂😂😂
2022-02-23 15:32:26 +0000 UTCSorry you’re going through this man. You’ve never been anything but forthright with the rules here, and have been pretty darn flexible and willing to work with folks. Chargebacks definitely suck. I hope you win the case.
2022-02-23 15:31:12 +0000 UTCFuck those guy. No one has have time for that shit. And the loss.
2022-02-23 15:30:07 +0000 UTCI didn't know there was a flesh and blood discord. Is there a rudy discord I can get an invite to?
jayh
2022-02-23 15:27:31 +0000 UTCCan’t dispute a crypto transaction the world will Be a better place for consumers and sellers once full adsorption of ledger based /block chain technology is fully adopted that doesn’t even mean paying in crypto it could be a S coin
maxx schanback
2022-02-23 15:25:32 +0000 UTCGood to see another oldster in here.
Stephen Ferguson
2022-02-23 15:24:49 +0000 UTCSent a PM just in case since I'm in the main fab community discord and want to know if I need to drop from it to be on the safe side.
Jonathon Smith
2022-02-23 15:24:26 +0000 UTCDespicable !! Let us know if there is anything we can do to help you. Rudy, you work very hard taking of your patrons and subscribers. The countless hours of time and effort devoted to the channel, your business and the community are invaluable and appreciated by all. You don't deserve this. Once again you find yourself the victim of unscrupulous individuals willing to sacrifice their personal morals for a few dollars and pieces of cardboard. I know there is a special place in the world for individuals who have such a damaged conscience and no concept of moral values. What goes around comes around and I can only hope that in this life the individual(s) one day share a cell with equally pleasantly minded bunkmates with many likeminded friends.
2022-02-23 15:24:20 +0000 UTCI think your position shows a lack of understanding for how some people use discord. Plenty of people opt into servers, even to opt-in channels and then set the server to mute and never check back in. If there are long term patrons with no history of issues, I think that track record speaks more than simply being in an opt-in channel on the largest FaB discord. Rudy is right to treat this on a per person basis (as indicated by his asks for PMs).
Tino Galizio
2022-02-23 15:24:19 +0000 UTCRudy - shot you a pm. I'm on the main fab discord and thus have access to that channel but not active on it. I buy from you on random sales that sound interesting but mostly here for the insight.
Adheesh Ghai
2022-02-23 15:23:15 +0000 UTCYeah but I think a lot of people were in the general FaB discord like myself and never used wallstreet section or even knew about. I threw it down the list of discord servers and never used it since I joined maybe over a year ago? That would suck if just being in the general FaB discord would get us banned.
2022-02-23 15:23:15 +0000 UTCAlso if you don’t have 10,000 bitconeect coins your missing out
maxx schanback
2022-02-23 15:23:02 +0000 UTCI don’t even have discord but buy xrp
maxx schanback
2022-02-23 15:22:40 +0000 UTCOne of our problems is we don’t punish thieves nearly enough thereby encouraging this behavior.
Stephen Ferguson
2022-02-23 15:22:38 +0000 UTCPM sent
Tino Galizio
2022-02-23 15:21:45 +0000 UTC🥕 bros
Cory
2022-02-23 15:21:36 +0000 UTCNOT the main FaB discord. This was an opt-IN group titled “WallStreet”. If you were just in the vanilla discord, you’re FINE.
2022-02-23 15:21:34 +0000 UTCIm confused as to what they were trying to pull by tier swapping. Either way glad you caught on and hope Karma pays them a visit real soon. Peace Love and Tacos.
2022-02-23 15:20:40 +0000 UTCWho would've thought that not using discord regularly would have paid off so much.
Jacob Taylor
2022-02-23 15:17:08 +0000 UTCThe main community discord?
Rosario
2022-02-23 15:16:11 +0000 UTCSent you a PM -- not sure if I'm on the list, but figured I'd reach out just in case. Sorry to hear about all this. This kind of behavior has no place in the Flesh & Blood community. Come on guys...
2022-02-23 15:16:10 +0000 UTCSo sorry you have to deal with this. I am a newer patron and here just to support for the many hours of entertainment and information on YouTube.
Sofie Heiberg Plovdrup
2022-02-23 15:15:54 +0000 UTCby "10 comments posted in that group" I meant the ENTIRE FaB discord (which has groups for every hero, trading, playing games, etc). Most of my comments were in Dash and Lexi groups =)
2022-02-23 15:15:13 +0000 UTCWhat a mess. Rudy, I am not sure if I am on the list or not. I just searched my entire comment / post history on the main Fab discord server and I have 0 comments posted to replied on the #WALL STREET. I don't use discord very much at all it seems as I only had 10 comments/posts lifetime in that group. Needless to say, I am not a member of #WALLSTREET and if I am I don't know about it. If I'm on the list, please let me know and I will PM you direct.
2022-02-23 15:14:05 +0000 UTCPrivate message sent. Was a member of your patreon before I ever joined the FaB Discord. I just want to add: not everyone in that channel are bad apples. There are vendors, shop owners, content creators, enthusiasts; that all join to have deep discussions about the TCG market as a whole
2022-02-23 15:13:51 +0000 UTCSucks that a scummer led to a blast zone like this, but good to see Rudy letting legit folks demonstrate they weren't doing the grift. Definitely want the fraudsters gone, but would be a shame to see any genuine Taco Timmy's lose access to the taco stand.
Brent Walker
2022-02-23 15:12:29 +0000 UTCThe other problem for Rudy is: if you joined “wallstreet” in the FAB discord, even if you NEVER posted, all of your business could have been done in private and there wouldn’t be public record of it. Chargebacks are the one thing that could probably wreck Rudy’s patron empire, and he has no way of knowing how much interaction anyone in the group really had with each other PRIVATELY. Guilt by association is the only way he can be safe. It sucks, but I don’t want to see him raise prices and/or shut down over 30 bad apples either
2022-02-23 15:11:45 +0000 UTCI have pm'd you Rudy
2022-02-23 15:09:53 +0000 UTCIt really sucks that people like that tend to set the tone with how we need to interact with each other in life. Fingers crossed crypto can change that to a degree.
2022-02-23 15:09:42 +0000 UTCLook at all the “wubba wubba I was in it but didn’t know, pinky swear!!!!” Guys. You got caught. I hope Rudy does ban you, unless you can prove you never participated. I hope he sticks to his guns and doesn’t allow people that associated with this garbage to continue. Lord knows he won’t lose any money if he needs to find a few new patrons. People still beg daily to get in.
2022-02-23 15:05:48 +0000 UTCI just sent you a PM because if it's the wallstreet channel from the official FaB discord I guess I am on the same boat 😔 I hate to be on the spot because someone tried to play smart and dishonest :/
Eric
2022-02-23 15:05:39 +0000 UTCKind of wondering the same. I've been on the discord for a while, but never use it.
2022-02-23 15:05:21 +0000 UTCThere’s always a bad apple… PM’d just in case
2022-02-23 15:04:54 +0000 UTCUnfortunate that this is happening.
2022-02-23 15:03:59 +0000 UTCLol what's discord?
That Guy Certified
2022-02-23 15:03:25 +0000 UTCSome horrible news.
mario telles anzurez
2022-02-23 15:02:30 +0000 UTCPm sent. Been part of FAB discord for over 14 months now
Gaetan Bovey
2022-02-23 15:02:04 +0000 UTCSounds like this was an Opt in Section on the Main DIscord. Flesh and Blood TCG Community. It looks to be under Marketplace, and is a sup group you must agree to terms to, so i believe I was not inside that sub section but just confirming.
Jacob Neitling
2022-02-23 15:01:01 +0000 UTCI left it. I dont even look at anything in that discord.
michael j
2022-02-23 15:01:00 +0000 UTCWowza.....
2022-02-23 15:00:57 +0000 UTCJesus Christ. Sorry you are having to deal with this rediculous bullshit
Daniel Langworthy
2022-02-23 15:00:47 +0000 UTCSent a pm Rudy. I think I checked out that channel a couple of years ago, and may be on the list :( I would hate for you to think I’m a part of whatever was going on. I love supporting the channel. I’m sorry you have to deal with this…
Liam Kozma
2022-02-23 15:00:41 +0000 UTCYour not missing much. Just another day where a person became angry at me for getting caught messing with patron tiers/payments and got banned. Then opened thousands of dollars is chargebacks against me because they are angry with the attempt to steal.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 15:00:17 +0000 UTCSent you a message Rudy I've never posted to my knowledge in that channel but I think I am in the discord for trading purposes. Will happily leave if that is necessary
Jason Rost
2022-02-23 14:59:55 +0000 UTCI also DM’d. Left that discord about a month ago because of some negativity.
2022-02-23 14:59:50 +0000 UTCSent you a PM Rudy :)
2022-02-23 14:58:42 +0000 UTCSent you a pm Rudy. Hell of a way to start the day. Thanks for all you do.
Matthew Boe
2022-02-23 14:58:29 +0000 UTCUh oh, am I on that list? I'd assume so, as I've been part of the FaB discord for the part two years...
2022-02-23 14:57:54 +0000 UTCRudy keeping the pimp hand strong
Derek
2022-02-23 14:57:43 +0000 UTCPM sent Rudy. I'm in a local Sea FaB discord but not sure if I'm in the Wallstreet one.
Scott Pysher
2022-02-23 14:57:37 +0000 UTCHi Rudy I’m in a Canadian group and a Utah group I couldn’t find anything with “Wall Street “ in the name could you check to see if I m on the list these are the only groups I have been in
Kamen
2022-02-23 14:57:28 +0000 UTCYou do what you have to do to deal with fraudulent people. Hope everything goes well for you Rudy!
The Soapbox Lord
2022-02-23 14:57:26 +0000 UTCI was part of the FaB TCG discord but never used it due to asshat mentality in there. Didnt even know there was a Wall Street Section. Can I mark myself safe? :D
2022-02-23 14:56:18 +0000 UTCIt’s the same DM him if you ever opted into the wall-street channel
Cord Anding
2022-02-23 14:55:35 +0000 UTCHi Rudy I PM’d you. I think I am on your ban list
John Miller
2022-02-23 14:54:33 +0000 UTCI joined things of interest to me on discord awhile back, including "Flesh & Blood TCG - Community". I don't really use discord so I'm not sure how it works, but is this a separate group? Thanks
Bryan Dombi
2022-02-23 14:54:02 +0000 UTCthank you.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:53:22 +0000 UTCI don't think im in that Discord...
2022-02-23 14:53:12 +0000 UTCSorry The Everfest product is already processed and shipping
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:53:11 +0000 UTCI guess it is a good thing I really have no idea what is going on here. I am a patron who loves most of your videos, buys product to chill on a shelf, and just let it sit. I am no flipper, I am a long hauler on sealed. Ill just stay in my bubble, occasionally going out for tacos and mail deliveries.
Brenton L Drake
2022-02-23 14:53:11 +0000 UTCYea i shared the information with my other list of 10 stores who handle FaB/MTG
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:52:48 +0000 UTCI'm not into FAB and have no Clue what you're Talking about! So I'm free and Clear.
2022-02-23 14:52:36 +0000 UTCyour ok Ryan, thank you for the communication
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:52:33 +0000 UTCyour ok Samuel, thank you for the communication
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:52:25 +0000 UTCyour ok Michael, thank you for the communication
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:52:19 +0000 UTCThe everfest kits have already processed and are shipping. So nothing i can do about that
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:51:24 +0000 UTCFeeling anxious for our Friend-of-Cardboard today. Hope this is an isolated incident with no scale. Banhammer is very realistic. Expect hard limits if he allows any of those players to stay at the table. But at what risk, yuck, sticky situation. And to see the above-linked Bronson endorsement video coupled with this subject matter within a year of each other, sad day. Does MTG have a Thoughts and Prayers card yet?
Andrew Schulz
2022-02-23 14:50:35 +0000 UTCHi Rudy, I don't see any channel with that name in the groups I am in. Can you check if everything is OK with me? Thank you
Michael Matias
2022-02-23 14:50:16 +0000 UTCI might be on the list ... one of those Discords I joined and never used, though I never joined Wall-street. PM sent! Dont let the weasels get you down! I know you've gotta do what you've gotta do.
Samuel Wells
2022-02-23 14:50:15 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:49:53 +0000 UTCWill you be messaging people on that list? And if that guy bought an everfest kit and it hasn't been sent can I buy it?
David Neis
2022-02-23 14:49:29 +0000 UTCHey Rudy. I’m a newer Patron. Just getting into FaB and have joined the DmArmada discord group just a couple days ago. Just want to make sure I am safe from this!
2022-02-23 14:48:02 +0000 UTCThanks for the heads up! We will add him to our store blocked list. I will see if I can get a list of the others in that group or, if you are able, we would appreciate a list once you can publish it. Stay Picante!
2022-02-23 14:47:59 +0000 UTCI appreicate it David, overall, this impacts a small amount of people. It is more sad/disappointing than anything.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:46:53 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:46:05 +0000 UTCHe essentially has opened paypal chargebacks for thousands of dollars on all previous purchases since he is angry at me for getting caught. Im sure he will return empty boxes or something different, this is usually how these things end.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:45:52 +0000 UTCWell at this point I assume I’m included, shit sucks used the discord for gameplay questions and opted into wall street out of curiosity Screw that person
Cord Anding
2022-02-23 14:45:40 +0000 UTCRudy sent you a PM.
Russ Goldich
2022-02-23 14:45:34 +0000 UTCHave been here since the 2020 virus fiasco, Should I send you a DM to check if I'm on the list, and if theres a way that i can get unbanned from purchasing product?
Jose reyes
2022-02-23 14:45:11 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list. Some patrons like you are very long term patrons with no attempts at fraud.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:44:48 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list. Some patrons like you are very long term patrons with no attempts at fraud.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:44:45 +0000 UTCFuck these douche bags
Daniel McDonald
2022-02-23 14:43:50 +0000 UTCMessaged you Rudy, not sure if i am on the list or not, but i have made some purchases from the community discord before.
Ray Q
2022-02-23 14:43:32 +0000 UTCNot that you need it, but I used to be a game Liason for a flash game company that dealt with a lot of chargebacks. If you need some pointers on how to fight it, let me know.
2022-02-23 14:43:32 +0000 UTC"When the f did we get ice cream" is their like a patterns patron to get into this discord, am I the onlye one without the password? Because of this crypto should demand a premium for irl transactions, deal is done no more bs for charge back ect. How to hedge the scams? Only big brother can I think
CallitBreeze
2022-02-23 14:43:23 +0000 UTCSorry you have to deal with this rudy
Brian H
2022-02-23 14:42:58 +0000 UTCHow can we check with you if we are on the list? I lurk in there sometimes during prerelease activities but have never really participated. It would be unfortunate if I am wrapped up in this guy's storm.
2022-02-23 14:42:57 +0000 UTCWow, what did he try to charge back? His monthly sub? Or even ALL his purchases? That’s pretty bad fraud.
2022-02-23 14:42:22 +0000 UTCPathetic... wow. Glad for the openness.
Carl Prahl
2022-02-23 14:41:35 +0000 UTCDoes just being in the official flesh & blood tcg discord add you to wallstreet? I don't really use the discord for anything but card reveals so i'm not sure how membership in separate channels are determined? should we just be avoiding the official discord as a whole?
2022-02-23 14:41:29 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list. Some patrons like you are very long term patrons with no attempts at fraud.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:41:06 +0000 UTCI think I’m gonna have to message you, I really only joined that Discord for the Mon to 1k memes a while back..
Will Bradshaw
2022-02-23 14:41:05 +0000 UTCAm I on the list? I am on the fab discord. Thank you
michael j
2022-02-23 14:40:09 +0000 UTCLife is ironic...he gets caught and rails me for $2,000.00 in stolen product.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:40:06 +0000 UTCI'm never part of the cool kids club :(
Miguel
2022-02-23 14:39:39 +0000 UTCRudy has summoned people to taco bell for thier last meal! 💀 RIP
Heang
2022-02-23 14:39:36 +0000 UTCYea well the individual is very active on the wallstreet/FaB discord and quite proud of what he has done also.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:39:30 +0000 UTCI'm in the same boat, just sent a pm like he suggested to others in thread.
Matthew Boe
2022-02-23 14:38:25 +0000 UTCThere's a name I haven't seen since I blocked him back in my days of modding the main FAB Discord.
Ada Korman
2022-02-23 14:38:00 +0000 UTCRudy, am I on the list? I don't think I've said one word in that channel let alone the main fab discord in probably six months or more.
John Bolender
2022-02-23 14:37:12 +0000 UTCSeriously? Swapping tiers? What to save $5-10 a month? That's scummy. It's in or out. Rudy's once a month market report is worth that and more.
Heang
2022-02-23 14:37:07 +0000 UTCSent you a pm Rudy
Philip Davis
2022-02-23 14:36:37 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:36:34 +0000 UTCKing Rudy strike them all down with the mighty sword of justice
2022-02-23 14:36:21 +0000 UTCLame, I'm sorry to hear you have to be on the lookout for this kind of garbage but I'm also glad to hear you are on the lookout. Helps keep the patreon clean for those of us that do follow the rules!
real_timotto
2022-02-23 14:36:14 +0000 UTCMany long term patrons have noticed prices have increased on many sale items inthe last 2 years. This is mostly due to higher shipping costs but also higher fraud rates that everyone has to pay.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:35:47 +0000 UTCSorry you have to deal with that. Keep up your hard work. Thank you
2022-02-23 14:35:08 +0000 UTCVery frustrating to hear about that Rudy. Wonder what would happen if one day everyone decided to just be a good and decent person? I have a detailed spreadsheet of everything I have purchased and the cost compared to the current pricing, based on my numbers that idiot messed up a lucrative membership with you going forward.
2022-02-23 14:34:42 +0000 UTCFEEL THE RUDY TACO-SLAP
DuGiOh
2022-02-23 14:34:39 +0000 UTCSend me a private message, you are on the list.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:33:42 +0000 UTCWow, how bad, that video has now aged lol
2022-02-23 14:33:25 +0000 UTCDumb. For once I'm happy not to be part of that discord server/group lol
DarkElder
2022-02-23 14:33:24 +0000 UTCWow. Don’t people know they’re always going to get caught cheating.
Next
2022-02-23 14:32:39 +0000 UTCIs this the Wall Street channel on the main fab community discord? Or a different discord server since the Wall Street in quotations is different spelling?
Alberto
2022-02-23 14:32:13 +0000 UTCim going to see how this plays out in the coming weeks. I expect for anger and fraud to come.
Rudy The Magic Guy
2022-02-23 14:32:12 +0000 UTCIm not really understanding how the discord scamed the system and please im not saying they didnt. But id love a follow up video going into it.
Mark Vitali
2022-02-23 14:31:12 +0000 UTCJust found this video talking about that group https://youtu.be/lZuAhVN-bso
2022-02-23 14:30:54 +0000 UTCIts so much easier to just be honest
JC
2022-02-23 14:30:47 +0000 UTCPeople suck
2022-02-23 14:28:42 +0000 UTCStupid Games, Stupid Prizes.
Krepsy k
2022-02-23 14:28:38 +0000 UTCI like this
2022-02-23 14:28:00 +0000 UTCTake out the trash, Rudy. Get 'em out of here!
Robotfox
2022-02-23 14:27:24 +0000 UTCRudy being fair and honest as always. Very disappointed to hear about this news. Happy Patron here.
Andrew Schulz
2022-02-23 14:27:11 +0000 UTCGet these jokers out of here. Awesome job to the Patrons that figured this out. They should be praised.
Eric Boron
2022-02-23 14:26:20 +0000 UTCWhat about those that were members of the discord but were clearly not shit heads?
2022-02-23 14:25:33 +0000 UTCSo everfest kit for sale now? I'm in to buy if so, I missed out on that action.
Mike Mags
2022-02-23 14:25:02 +0000 UTCOff with their heads 😂 Interesting that people use the same name on both platforms.
Peter Hauge
2022-02-23 14:24:18 +0000 UTCThanks for trying to keep honesty and integrity important virtues. Imagine being a manipulative weakling and when caught, throwing tantrums... There's no shame anymore
Zach-F
2022-02-23 14:23:55 +0000 UTCThrow them into the pit.
William Arce
2022-02-23 14:23:06 +0000 UTCKeep up the good work Rude Dude
2022-02-23 14:22:50 +0000 UTCThese scumbags never stop
SpicyCain
2022-02-23 14:22:50 +0000 UTCAND this is why we can't have nice things...
Robert Sutphin
2022-02-23 14:22:47 +0000 UTCLay the floppy tacos on their dumb faces!!!!
2022-02-23 14:22:38 +0000 UTCDoesn't sound like it. You should probably send a PM and not make any purchases until you get a solid answer.
2022-02-23 14:21:47 +0000 UTCWhy can’t people just act right? Sorry you’re having to deal with that man!
Thuan Nguyen
2022-02-23 14:21:34 +0000 UTCoh crap
Alice Geus
2022-02-23 14:21:10 +0000 UTCFuc$& them up Rudy!
Chad
2022-02-23 14:20:34 +0000 UTCThis is why we are all going to crypto soon...
Robert Sutphin
2022-02-23 14:20:23 +0000 UTCYou can't outsmart the taco man.
Bryan Vukich
2022-02-23 14:20:06 +0000 UTCGotta protect the taco empire, you do what you need to Rudy
Aaron Paolozzi
2022-02-23 14:19:45 +0000 UTCSwing the BanHammer, Rudy! To Hell with dishonesty and people trying to get ahead by cheating
Zachary J Uphold
2022-02-23 14:19:39 +0000 UTCRudy, you have to protect yourself; we support you. Do you mind sharing the discord Names on the list so we can watch out of doing business with these folks?
Teds Basement
2022-02-23 14:19:37 +0000 UTCJuicy
2022-02-23 14:19:24 +0000 UTC*Insert Shame gif* Why can't people just do business in a faithful manner...
Robert Sutphin
2022-02-23 14:19:19 +0000 UTCOMG I feel bad for any of these patreo s that got the Gemkeeper card :( Too bad that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch!
George Kladis
2022-02-23 14:19:02 +0000 UTCSorry that this is a reality that you have to contend with Rudy. For those of us with a genuine love of cardboard with no interest in manipulations, thank you for your extended efforts maintaining your kits and sales despite people like this making your life difficult.
Eric Ayers
2022-02-23 14:19:01 +0000 UTCJust to be clear, this is a separate discord server we would have had to join and not the #wall-street channel in the main FaB discord, right?
Andy Modell
2022-02-23 14:19:00 +0000 UTCThat name sounds super familiar. I think I've seen him on YouTube videos related to FaB before.
Joseph Twyman
2022-02-23 14:18:42 +0000 UTCGet them Rudy! Take his ass to through the ringer!
Bryan Hernandez
2022-02-23 14:18:28 +0000 UTCScummy people doing scummy things. Not enough excitement in grandma’s basement
John
2022-02-23 14:18:27 +0000 UTCGood. More for the rest of us to actually enjoy the game.
David Stowe
2022-02-23 14:18:22 +0000 UTCEasy come, easy go. Good work catching the fraud.
2022-02-23 14:18:20 +0000 UTCWow that is fucked. Thanks for the openness rudy. Sorry you had to deal with that.
Dave Huffy
2022-02-23 14:18:19 +0000 UTCit's amazing what people will do for money
2022-02-23 14:17:52 +0000 UTCSorry Rudy! Enjoy the cleansing!
john locke
2022-02-23 14:17:50 +0000 UTCDannnnnnnnng sic em Rudy. Jackasses
Erod
2022-02-23 14:17:49 +0000 UTCAppreciate the heads up Rudy. Get em out
Marcos Rivera (Jedi168)
2022-02-23 14:17:48 +0000 UTCFraud is a form of theft! Not cool!
Jakestaz
2022-02-23 14:17:32 +0000 UTCClean house Rudy. We appreciate you keeping this shitnout of our patreon group
joshua lefrancois
2022-02-23 14:17:20 +0000 UTCOof, hate bad actors man. Good luck!
William Lefever
2022-02-23 14:17:15 +0000 UTC