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General feats (1 of 3): PHB 2024

Public release date: Aug 12th

General feats (1 of 3): PHB 2024 General feats (1 of 3): PHB 2024

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Crossbow Expert says “if you’re holding one of them, you can load…” *one* of them. Are you sure this rule allows you to load when holding *two* of them? My first reaction was, oh so it only applies when holding *exactly one* crossbow

Tim Kreider

I think GWM would improve the cleave property as well.

John M

You stand on the edge of the spikes and while grappling the target (in front of you) you walk back and forth, dragging them through it.

Jason G. Rheins

How does a monk use spike growth? Is the play to drag the enemy thru spike growth? Is there a way for the monk to avoid taking the damage alongside the enemy?

Rob Agnew

I’m pretty sure that Two-Weapon Fighting applies to the attack granted by dual wielder, since the fighting style applies to “extra attacks made as a result of using a light weapon” and dual wielder grants an extra attack that you make as a result of using a light weapon.

TundraBoy

Can you not draw two daggers with Nick propert without dual weilding? That's so dumb

Robert Fohrman

Can you make two attacks as a bonus action using Polearm Master + Great Weapon Master (critical)? No! So you can't make two atacks as a bonus action using Light property + Dual Wielder feat. These are two features using the same single resource: bonus action. BUT: You can include one attack from the Light property into the Attack Action thanks to Nick and then you can use bonus action for Dual Wielder Feat. The final result is: 3 attacks in action + 1 attack in bonus action, using 2 light weapons of which at least one has Nick property. By the way: Both Light property and Dual Wielder feat attacks are a result of attacking with a weapon with Light property, thus, Two Weapon Fighting Style applies.

Bartosz Czaplewski

Dual wielder is so convoluted... wow.

Moozure (Ben Morrier)

I really miss the color code you used before . The rating does not emphasize the difference between a bad feat and a circumstancial one for example

Nergaal

It seems to me that using nick would allow you to make one of those extra attacks (as part of the attack action) freeing up the dual wielder feat to let you do another attack using your bonus action (potentially with a non-light weapon that you pull out just for it, but I think it also works with just the same light weapon). Using the same bonus action to make two attacks seems potentially rough, but honestly, just not sure. The wording is just not clear. But this would make the nick mastery more useful in a dual wielder set up because it would be the thing to allow you to attack twice with your off hand weapons. Only having nick, or only having dual wielder, would each only let you do one extra attack. In this set up, the dual wielder has one of two advantages. The first, and less powerful, is to let you use a non-light weapon to make a bonus action attack. The second would be to stack with the nick property to allow two additional attacks that turn, one using nick and one using dual wielder. Obviously, that second one would probably be the reason most people took it. That's my interpretation so far. Wish it was just a touch clearer.

Sean Printz

I second this. The feat provides an additional way to make an extra attack as a bonus action as a result of attacking with a weapon that has the light property, so two weapon fighting definitely applies to it. If two weapon fighting said “When you use the light property to make an extra attack etc.” then it wouldn’t apply, but they worded it specifically so that it does apply to dual wielder.

TundraBoy

Nevermind. A friend and I just worked it out. Here's how we think it works. The Bonus Action attack from the Light Property is different than the Bonus Action Attack from the Feat. So you'd have access to Both. Since you can draw and stow a weapon as part of the attack now, you would actually need three weapons to make this work. Lvl 4, Fighter, Mastery in Longsword, Scimitar and Dagger, Dual Wielder Feat. Swing with Scimitar, which is a Light Weapon with the Nick Property. Now you can attack with the Dagger as part of the same action. As part of attacking with the dagger, you stow it and draw the longsword, since the Feat lets you draw or stow two weapons when you would otherwise do one. Bonus Action attack with sword. Three attacks at lvl 4. At lvl 5, you could attack with the Longsword first, then the Scimitar to activate Nick, then stow the scimitar and draw the dagger for the attack, then attack with the longsword as a Bonus Action. Four attacks at lvl 5.

Tony Glass

I think the Dual Wielder Feat just lets you replace a Light Weapon with a non Light Weapon. So instead of having to use two daggers, you can use a dagger and a longsword. And if you did a Scimitar and a Longsword, or something else with Nick, then you don't have to use a bonus action on the extra attack.

Tony Glass

A little bummed they didn't put Eldritch Adept in the new feats. Adding a +1 mental ability score and limiting it to a 2nd level warlock invocation would have been so easy! So long Mask of Many Faces, Devil's Sight, or Misty Visions! Looks like we'll need a 2 level multiclass dip to get you.

Daniel Runyon

A monk with tavern brawler and grappler is going to be terrific, especially teamed with spike growth. I *think* you can do damage + grapple to one opponent and then damage + shove to another on the same turn. Maybe you could even first hit and grapple one enemy and then hit the same enemy (w/ advantage) and push it away.

Jason G. Rheins

They definitely changed the wording on the actor feat in a way that prevents its biggest exploit. In the old rules it said you had advantage on deception and performance checks "when trying to pass yourself off as a different person". So some players (myself included once or twice) would disguise themselves and take advantage going forward on deception as long as they were passing themselves off as their fake persona. Now it's clear that the advantage is only on convincing people you are your persona and nothing else.

Jason G. Rheins

Dual wielder making monks cry. Trying to read a way to add it to FoB but can’t see it.

4RoryVT

Yeah I'd disagree with your interpretation of Dual Wielder. Both Light and DW give you things to do "as a Bonus Action". There's no wording to indicate that they stack together into one BA, they are separate BAs that you can take. That said, I also disagree (but in a better way) with the bit about TWF. Since it triggers from "an" extra attack "as a result of using a weapong that has the Light property", I'd say the feat attack also applies, since it's an attack resulting from Light. Nick is different because it's "The" attack from the Light prop

Reaperzeus

Just as a litmus, what would you rank Alert/Musician? 3/5? Higher?

4RoryVT

Dual Wielder seems way too damn confusing

Thomas Fitzgerald

I may be wrong. but both the light property and the DW feat say "you can make one extra attack". I'm not completely sure that the interpretation is correct. I'd say it can go either way. There is one thing though... the extra attack does not require a light weapon

Morrock


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