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WIP train #5 - The 2 Part Release

With the upcoming release we’re trying out a new approach: the 2 part release. 

Assuming a full release is roughly 20-25 mins in length, we’ll break down the big release into two 10-12 minute parts. The first part will be released with roughly half the content at roughly half the usual price. The second part will complete the full release. Once we have part two, we'll publish the release at full length and full price. At this point part one of the release will no longer be available. Those who have purchased part one separately will be able to buy the full release for half the price. Let us know in the comments below if you see a good reason to make both parts available individually though. 

We are intending to produce more quickly and cutting production time in half like this could result in considerably shorter release cycles, meaning less waiting, which is something we’ve been asked about a lot. 

Additionally, the releases will be more flexible. An interim round of feedback will allow for more fine-tuning, more responsive and stream-lined improvements and there’s going to be more momentum in general around releases that occur in months rather than years.

So why not just release an animation short of around 10 mins? Currently the survey and polls are indicating you like longer releases, which allows establishing more of the story, more in-depth character development and coherent content with continuity, which we’re on board with as well. 

Let us know your thoughts in the comments below :)

WIP train #5 - The 2 Part Release

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I don't generally go too crazy, but check out part 4 of the Halloween set (coming soon)

Affect3D - miro

longer videos

julesjordan

i'm totally fine with two part

KotOr

I just want throat bulges lol

You could also do a movie with 3 sexual encounters, you did 2 in Bloodlust:Cerene but with this approach each one could be a lil bit longer and when done you could have a 45 min complete release. Because we never have enough of your art !

Mickey23

Totally agrees with this approach, you can wait for the full release or get a discount if you bought the first part, best of both world!

Mickey23

yes, we'll try keep spoilers to a mininum till whole episode comes out

Affect3D - miro

I wouldn't buy part 1. I would just wait till you where done with the whole movie before I would buy it. So when you release part 1 try and to give to much of the story away for people that would wait for the whole movie.

justbob12

ton of things we want to improve, so yeah, more feedback is good :) we'll go over specifics for this episode in the upcoming wips

Affect3D - miro

well, you'll have to see how the scene develops, the still doesn't necessary explain the setup, but even though Lanessa stroking herself is pretty sexy imo, I'm sure she'll jump in at some point :) no, we're producing the first part before the 2nd, otherwise we wouldn't save much time in production... but yes we already have the full script and draft previz, etc for the 2nd part, so it comes together as one episode part 4 of the Halloween set is coming soon :)

Affect3D - miro

the plan is full animation and yes this an early stage preview pic of the animation

Affect3D - miro

when we get close to releasing the first part and as a patreon you'll see it first :)

Affect3D - miro

So… while I personally think everyone „can wait“ for the full 20-25 min release I think dividing it in 2 parts is a great idea! Because waiting for something more then 5-6 months can shift the expectations quite a bit. The more time you wait the more you fantasy takes over and in the end while the release might be 10/10 your imagination will always be better, thus making you feel disappointed. Although 20-25min animations are nice because there is so much stuff to watch/experience it also sucks when you are “done with it”. Because u might have to wait more then half a year for the next one you feel kind of empty. I think this especially a problem for porn. Yes I was “done” with the Witcher 3 2 weeks after the release but I could easily play it again and again and I still had a lot to explore/experience. While you can watch great porn a couple of times it still get´s pretty “meh” after a while. So shortening the release gap could help a lot. Also as u mentioned shorter release cycles make way for more feedback and will improve the overall experience for sure! For example BL RD lacked reactions especially in the insertion scenes. If BL RD had been split in 2 parts this could have been fixed in part 2. Overall I think really long release cycles might disconnect the artist from the will of his fans/supporters and thus losing track of the “important things”. I think if it comes to 3dx feedback is the most important thing and if you can somehow increase it you should! So even if you want to wait for the full release you benefit of the 2 part release, because people who buy the first part will enhance the overall experience for you through their feedback. There should be a way, for people that do not want to get spoiler´ed, to somehow see if the patreon post contains any spoilers. So in conclusion I think as long as miro and the affect3d team is still figuring out the “perfect” way to make 3dx animated porn this is the best solution for now. If you guys are 10/10 perfect at some point just releasing the full release might be better but for now I put my vote on the 2 part idea! Greetings and keep up the awesome work!

Neo

big Skyrim fan as well :) ... too bad next one is 2022+ :(

Affect3D - miro

yes that too and yes to the titty fucking :)

Affect3D - miro

the separate parts wouldn't be too much of a logistical issue but imo it seems confusing for new comers to have two parts for one episode and the whole episode after it's been completed in full

Affect3D - miro

yes, more sex talk :)

Affect3D - miro

yeah, they're roughly divided into DG+G and DG+DG, so you can decide if you dare level up :P

Affect3D - miro

yep, the additional round of feedback should help next G4E will have a different feel and direction to Bloodlust, but we'll get to that later...

Affect3D - miro

yeah, we'll try out shorts with the mini set animations

Affect3D - miro

good point

Affect3D - miro

yes, has potential and good to change up the look

Affect3D - miro

yeah, better to try it with this one, since it's a continuation

Affect3D - miro

imo, it's different to a main stream movie, in that if you manage to sit through a 3dx movie in one sitting, it could have been better :P but yeah you still want a good story, so we're actually keeping the format just divided in 2... I mean in theory, one could wait for the full movie :P ... also, it's a test run, if it doesn't work well, we can always revert

Affect3D - miro

One way or another if it cuts release time then the two part release would be great in my mind. And I do appreciate you cutting the full length DLC price in half if you own the first one. I understand the idea is to get more releases out sooner than bigger ones out much later.

J-syn

I'll address the pic first. I mentioned this when the initial wips for this scene were revealed and seeing Lanessa so uninvolved and STILL just standing around stroking herself not doing doing anything interesting, why is she even there? Even having her just off to the side, I see PLENTY of floor space right next to Cerene, park Lanessa there and have her licking and teasing her own cock while watching Sophia and Cerene not just stroking. Some light stroking is great for transitions but for a full on scene it's just really boring and not very sexy. =/ I think it would be be a good move to release some storyboards on just how you envision this whole thing playing out for broader context/feedback. Anywho....those shackles on Cerene O_O giggity. Why you didn't post more angles of this (snowy?) quality idk but post more ASAP. As for the episodic release, the way this was worded "Assuming a full release is roughly 20-25 mins in length, we’ll break down the big release into two 10-12 minute parts", I take that to mean that the entire thing will be animated and chopped before rendering/sfx etc, correct? or is the plan to work on one episode at a time with set length restrictions, with a cliffhanger between episodes? I prefer the former to the latter. P.S. You didn't forget Part 4 of the Halloween set did you? :-[~

Sayako & Cerene 4ever

Maybe Image stills with dialogue and sound effects/music to set the scene up then at least 15mins of awesome sex. Those stills could get animated for the full release? Ps. Sophie looks good enough to lick in the above. Love her new outfit and the lighting - bravo :)

Clayton Brody

I'm totally on board with a two part release.

Bob Fink

It'll probably be released the same way BLOODLUST was, when the individual scenes accessible in the menu, and even an editing function to allow you to cut together the scenes to your preference. I feel like this is unnecessary quibbling, because there's little chance that any individual release will be exactly to your preferences, so you may as well get the maximum value and just cut together the scenes you prefer.

ForeShadow

...but they will see part one because they'll have the entire release. There is no part 2...it's the completed movie; the entire release. Anyone that bought part 1 will be able to get the full release for 1/2 price to make up for the fact that they bought the first part rather than waiting for the entire release. Anyone that opts out of buying the first part does not miss anything because they will be buying the completed release, which includes all that same content.

ForeShadow

I like the concept of splitting up into 8– 10 min pieces. Or whatever is needed to squeeze down production time under 6 months...

Nebula77

When will release the first trailer? next year?

占超 任

All I see is double-cliffhanging

Dorio

I don't really see any advantage of taking away the episodic options at the end. Why not continue to sell them as episodes and sell them in a bundle once they're all released (I know it's only two for this particular one, but it could easily be more going forward)? It's not as if I can't queue them up in my video player and seamlessly watch both parts as one, should I so desire. Let's say Ep 1 is heavy on, I dunno, dg/dg and feet - that's not at all my cup of tea. If, say, Ep 2 is a dp (dg+dg/g) - that is most definitely my cup of tea. As described, I have no ability to purchase what I want without what I don't.

John Doe

If you’re gonna sell them as two parts that’s fine but you should keep part one available even after releasing part two.

Solstice

wow! I love the new outfits,...someting reminds me of Skyrim mods here.... looking forward to see the three beauties in action.

ButchiButch

I think the plan you have laid out is perfectly resonable, and it also has the benefit of allowing you to keep a revenue stream incoming as you work on the project, which will hopefully translate into more content later on. I, for one, as all for having more story content. The big advantage of an animated medium is that it can explore erotica in the context of a fantasy, giving context to the sex. I think that CERENE has a rich mythology and world that can be explored, and that excites me as much as the actual physical act of sex (though I am hoping for some titfucking. :P).

ForeShadow

The way you have it planned sounds great. If someone wants to wait for the full release they can. Shorter intervals more more revenue flow and more content for us. Cutting a full release in two means it's still a full release and the content isn't being overly changed to fit into a small time constraint. As for taking the first part down later I'd ask what are the logistics issues with selling it as two separate parts as well as the full? Though when getting the full version I definitely would want a single not two files. But how much extra work and money would it be to sell both full and as parts?

A Reaver

Episodic releases with more dialogue and dirty talk for me! I do hope there is some futa on futa action as well! Though just looking at Lanessa stroking herself in that image is Delicious.

Grayve

I agree actually. But waiting for the full release will be like a Marshmallow Test :p.

PlayfulUK

Sounds fantastic. It might also work to your benefit seeing as there's always going to be some complaining around DG+DG (complaints which I don't particularly understand but everyone is different). That way you can maybe separate the two parts and everyone wins.

EmEn

Nothing wrong with your plan, also we get twice as much cliffhangers which is nice and painful... Could you zoom in a bit on Lanessa? That dick looks so good on her!

I am 100% behind episodic releases. Hell you could go with 40mins movies split into 4-5 episodes if you want to get more story out. I just hope that any issues found in the first part have a chance of getting fixed in subsequent episodes. Btw love the restrains on Cerene. Would love to see some light bondage when you get back to G4E as well. Maybe Tara trick Sayako into getting tied up, then gets some other DGirl to pop her pussy cherry.

TheGreatCornholio

I vote for full movie length with 5-minute DLCs

Bunchofducks

Best I believe with a full release, but keep everyone happy with these short mini pic sets you have been doing which are super but of course there is always the demand for the vids. Always found that about a 2 minute short vid peaks and holds my interest. Like the ones you have done in the past. So much free stuff these days and the quality is always improving. Having the shorts as part of your Patreon might bring you more members.

Jack Pinder

I'm using about the same light for my creation. Blue/Pink/purple environement is very sensual !

Cocoloco

More frequent releases is WAY better. However you want to make that happen I'm down.

for me the longer videos isnt so much for plot as it is to help ensure fluid animations and transitions

Snake Plissken

I vote for full movie.

Alyssa

I'd like to add that these things don't have to be complicated. No offense, but there's usually only a select few scenes that are worth watching over again. If you split the work into 5 minute videos, it won't make a difference in the final product.

Space Banker

Yeah, but the problem is these guys take almost 2 years to release a 30 minute video. That's not feasible for any party.

Space Banker

I think it should be in 5 minute videos. First, you have the introduction scene (however long it takes 1-2 minutes). After that, you just release 5 minute videos with sex scenes. After it's completed, simply release one large mp4 for people who want it taped together.

Space Banker

actually, i think 2 part in 10 mins better, than 20 min in single

kaitena

When establishing a new IP, sure a longer release video is wanted. But when you do additional content, it can be shorter and episodic basically.

Angelo B.

full release is better anyway, and funny mini clips for wait.

zanzibar_007

I think full is better but... It's you choice...

JJoKKer67

Hmmm. Would rather see full release all at once rather than half now and half later. Neither would I like to see mainstream movies released half now and half later. Understandably, people get impatient to see everything and don't appreciate the time and effort it takes to produce this quality of work.

Silverstreek

I can wait for FULL release.

ANIMENIAC

It's better to send out the full video not just one part then u have to wait a week to get part 2 send the full part out wood be better hope hope hope after this they do guy on girl content

John Douglas

I can wait for a full release 👍

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