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Sacred Symbols, Episode 320 | Closing Walls and Ticking Clocks

We're getting into the late summer now, and it's no surprise that the news is beginning to pick up, starting with word of more Xbox games migrating to PlayStation. By our next episode, we should have at least one more Microsoft-centric title lined-up for PlayStation 5, a sign of the times as -- ultimately -- much of that catalog finds itself elsewhere. Meanwhile, problems are brewing in Sony's games-as-a-service initiative. On one hand, Concord's release is imminent, and the excitement level is precariously low. It's unclear whether Firewalk can really pull this thing off. On the other hand, we have second party title Helldivers 2, which has been tinkered with to such a degree that players are being rebuffed en masse. Can Arrowhead turn it around and keep a good thing going? Other news this week includes Dragon Age: The Veilguard's release date, the revival of Tango Gameworks, Final Fantasy VII Remake: Part III's potential move to Unreal Engine 5, and more. Then: Listener inquiries. How bad can the Borderlands film actually be? What kind of power does Fortnite wield these days? Is controller drift caused by faulty hardware or aggressive players? Did Chris really think he could win a breakdancing gold medal at the Paris Olympics?

Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Introduction

0:57:58 - Correction

0:59:52 - PSA

1:03:05 - Xbox games coming to PS5

1:21:19 - Helldivers balancing issues

1:36:17 - Concord's seasons of content

1:55:39 - Final Fantasy VII R3 moves to Unreal 5

1:59:58 - Dragon Age: The Veilguard release date trailer

2:05:01 - Tango Gameworks survives

2:13:01 - Doom returns

2:15:35 - Alan Wake 2 is still not profitable

2:54:25 - Until Dawn Remake

3:06:13 - PSN Sales

3:08:50 - Games coming to PS+

3:14:35 - Controller issues

3:23:28 - Playstation positivity

3:27:14 - The Borderlands movie

3:34:39 - Deadlock's NDA

3:40:15 - Fortnite might be cooking

3:46:17 - Black Myth: Wukong's hype level

Sacred Symbols, Episode 320 | Closing Walls and Ticking Clocks Sacred Symbols, Episode 320 | Closing Walls and Ticking Clocks

Comments

I’ve never had stick drift.

Taylor kazemba

Thinking of Dustin and everyone in the Last Stand Family

Ross Arbour

I can’t take Chris seriously. “Concord’s not woke at all, except for all the reasons it is, which you should ignore” LOL

fork

People ALWAYS get blamed for stick drift. The goddamn dualsense that came with my PS5 drifted out the box. My xbox series controller that came with the console hasn't drifted since launch. But every special edition xbox controller I used way less has. It's a lottery. The more we keep blaming users the more companies will get away with this BS.

David P

That’s why I got the elite controller. I map L3 and R3 to the rear buttons. NHL speed boost destroyed a lot of controllers

MrFreundly

I have anecdotal evidence in favor of Chris's theory of thumbstick drift. Over all my xbox controllers, the ONLY one that got thumbstick drift was the one I used to play Dead By Daylight (heavy use). Back then, they had us rotating and tilting the left thumbstick to do various things and this is the only controller of mine that went bad. Also, I rarely ever "click" in the thumbsticks because I believe that also speeds up the process that causes drift. I always use a controller that gives me an extra button to assign to the "click" of the right and left thumbsticks if I'm playing a game that wants me to click these a lot.

Guybrush Threepwood

Colin you are just wrong man. I never had a single issue with controllers from PS1-PS3 then all of a sudden I get a few dualshock 4s and far too many dualsenses that have drift or trigger issues. Why is it so hard to accept that the company is the problem and not the consumer?

YP-Berserk

You can play the old GH and Rock Band games with a normal controller. I could do most songs on Hard but Expert was tough because they’re not designed for the solos. I’ve never had stick drift on any of my modern controllers either.

NeO JD

Alan Wake 2 not making money is depressing. It was the best game I played in 2023 and the deeper I got into it had me asking if it was one of my all time favorites. Go out and buy this game!!!

Draven E.

Little problem I have with Colin and Chris assuming that everyone must be abusing their controllers to get drift... I managed to never experience drift in opening all consoles since the PS2, yet after 2 and a half years on not dealing with this on the PS5, I've two controllers have bad drift in a row, both of which were brand new when it happened, including one that was delivered by Amazon TWO DAYS AGO lol.. it's definitely a bigger problem than people think... I can only play my ps5 by hooking up with a USB-C cable AND choosing the option in settings to not use Bluetooth when the controller is connected, to use it as a wired controller instead!

Joe Piervincenti

I didn't want to comment twice but holy hell doesn't get any goofier than raygun word dropping color theory and proceed to know nothing about color theory. Keep it up.

Dresk47

Concord encourages you to NOT main a character. You get class buffs every round based on the previous rounds character if you switch. From what I can tell, there is a default "crew" roster from which most people were picking characters from. All 16 characters were not available to choose within a match...so the crew builder is a way to customize your roster of playable characters.

Andrew Grishaw

Wanted to add my voice of support for our man Dustin and his wife Holly. I'm very sorry for your loss.

Zach

I put my money where my mouth is the second Alan Wake 2 announced a physical version. Got the CE. I'm not against digital at all, I'm just not buying your game if you don't give me a physical option. Small indie studios I exclude from this rule.

Jacob Lesperance

Sorry for your loss Dustin and everyone else can't imagine the pain. Hope you can find some joy through it.

Dresk47

Just heard the news and I just wanna say my condolences to Holly and Dustin. The lead up episodes of Dustin have been nothing but excitement, so I can only imagine the pain they both are in. I verbally said "oh no" once I realized Colin was serious. Dustin, I have never been in this situation, so I can't fully understand, but just know not all hope is lost. Don't lose sight of what's important in these hard times.

Jon B

A poignant, but wholesome intro Colin. I hope to hear from Dustin again soon. Soon as he's ready that is. Take your time Big D

Benjamin Pope

Boys, well done on the introduction regarding Dustin and family. I teared up multiple times and what a beautiful letter he made. Dustin, I know you have seen this several times but I'm really terribly sorry for your loss and although it might not feel like it you will get there one day. All the best to you and your family. Take your time and we'll be glad to have you back when its right.

Rob Pursglove

Alan Smithee was the name directors used if they wanted to disavow a movie upto the year 2000. The name was discontinued because a movie was called Burn Hollywood Burn about director unfortunately named Alan Smithee. And in a case of pure irony the movie was so terrible the director Arthur Hiller didnt want his name on it and they used the name Alan Smithee in the credits. After that movie Hollywood no longer wanted to use the Alan Smithee name if directors wanted to be removed from the credits.

Dennis

Colin, I love you, but your defence of the joy con issue is ridiculous. It is literally a known fact that the PS5 controller is a terrible, weak designed device, it is not able to withstand any game that required heavy, intense flicks / movement. You aren’t encountering it because the games you play aren’t intense on the components, it’s as simple as that. The issue is not the player.

Cormac

All these companies source their joystick parts from the same manufacturer in China. It's not people being rough on their controllers it's just the way it is. You don't have to believe it but it's true. These are some janky ass low quality controllers this generation

Morgan

Sending tons of love to Dustin and Holly

modularity

So refreshing and awesome to see Chris actually playing a lot of games, and offering a lot of well thought, enthusiastic analysis.

Bailey Callis

Wishing all the best for Dustin and Holly!

OnyxOsprey

Colin’s take on the The stick drift thing is probably the most frustrating of the sacred symbols lore. It’s simple Colin, you don’t play online PvP online games specifically shooters (Fortnite, apex, call of duty, etc) the sprint and couch being commonally tied to clicking in the joysticks. And Colin you vastly underestimate how many hours people play games like Destiny if you think you are on games longer than most.

AllTooEasy_

A fan of Coldplay lyrics? What say you Colin.

Surge!

Just joined the Patreon, sending love to Holly and Dustin 🖤

Farticus, The Brave

I realize Colin has been pretty traumatized by his parents divorce, but I think just like a marriage can be handled well or badly, so can a divorce. My parents divorced when I was at a young age and they handled it well, so I wasn't really affected by it in a negative way and don't really think about it. I also have friends whose parents stayed together, and even without fighting, the coldness and lack of enthusiasm in their relationship affected the children. It's not really to combat anything Colin has said, which I vastly agree with, just a slightly different view of the matter. Also, just wanted to say as other people have already said that my thoughts are with Dustin and Holly. Sending much love in these difficult times for them.

Cornelius

I have to disagree about the DualSense stick drift. I do think some of it is luck, but I am on my third DualSense since the launch of the PS5 because my first two got stick drift. The first controller I barely even used. I am known by my friends as someone that takes of care of my video game stuff to an excessive degree, and I don’t play aggressively. I use my DualShock 4s a lot more than my DualSenses and they seem to last a lot longer, most of them never getting stick drift.

Josh Lucas

I've gone through two PS5 controllers in the past year and my most played game happened to be Street Fighter 6. Stick drift was gradually more noticeable in non fighting games. I play less on my PC, but the Xbox controller I use there has zero stick drift.

Danny

I’ve had a bad streak of stick drift over the past 1 year. Mind you, I don’t play any competitive online multiplayer games. Red controller from last year, left stick drifted. Traded that one for a new black controller at GameStop with the year warranty - drifted in less than two months. GameStop’s trade in with the warranty is you receive a pre owned controller. So this used controller is definitely worn, battery drains quickly, but the sticks work. This must be bad luck because my white controller paired with my console still works like a dream. Am I too hard on my controllers? I think not

Ahlickaloo

Agreed, and don’t forget about the sixth gen genres that have completely disappeared like stealth and arcade racers.

My most hated race is the 400m dash

But why? Those things don’t affect the experience at all so what is there to criticize? It’s just transphobes being upset to be upset. The pronouns are off in the corner and you see them for maybe 5 seconds. Not liking art direction is fine but complaining about pronouns is stupid and always has been.

TheMuff1nMon

I see relying on alcohol to have a good time crutch. I am not saying it is bad in moderation. We had no alcohol at our wedding and I am pretty sure everyone had a good time.

Daniel Blankenship

Personally I found Concord fun to play, it's not my type of game so I won't buy it regardless. However, I think people are completely free to criticise it for including pronouns and gender ambiguous characters.

Wesali

FIFA is the game that has ruined my controllers. High level competitive FIFA.

Matt

Colin- you always say there are too many games, yet Chris is literally 10 years into his backlog right now lol. There are only too many games if you’re into final fantasy, souls likes, stellar blade, or Helldivers 2. Those require very specific tastes. If you want multiplayer or co-op shooters like gears, or something like the division 2, or wildlands, or gta online, maybe a red dead online that wasn’t abandoned, or a battlefield game that doesn’t suck balls, or anything besides a money grabbing hero shooter, or literally anything that’s not business as usual, you’re shit out of luck right now. This generation, for the most part, feels stale and soulless to me. Is there the occasional gem? Sure, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the Xbox 360/PS3 or even the PS4 generation. Hot take, I know, but somebody has to say it. Thoughts, people?

Mike the Person

So sorry for Dustin and Holly’s loss. I can’t imagine the grief and disappointment. Hope they are holding up ok.

Jeece

Grocery prices are fine again? Where's this magical place Chris is shopping?

Joseph Gedgaudas

FYI Black Myth Wukong is NOT a soul-like game. It’s more action adventure RPG.

Guatles

Colin’s argument that signing in to a PSN account for Helldivers 2 is “baby shit” is really ignorant of the whole controversy. Making people sign in weeks after launch was a dumb move. PSN is also unavailable in 118 countries around the world. Compared to this to EA (who also makes you sign in the your EA account) who is only unavailable in Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Crimea, Russia, and Belarus. People are not mad that you have to sign in, they are mad that Sony does not support more than half the countries in the world not allowing people to play.

Hammertime44

I had a huge amount of beer and wine at my wedding, is that acceptable? lol open bar was way more expensive.

Austin Schillinger

Chris's thoughts on Helldivers were spot on as always. He put into words what I didn't know I wanted put into words.

DirtyInverty

Gotta agree w/ Colin regarding stick drift - between my son and I, we own 7 Dualsense controller (AstroBot will be our 8th) and none of them have had any issues. For anyone curious, I like to collect controller colors and it allows me to cycle through Dualsense quarterly so they don’t wear down as fast.

Brett Altmiller

Anyone who says there’s nothing to play simply doesn’t like video games, full stop.

The Rose Experience

Salute to the Furman that never was, we will always remember you.

Hozi

Thats all lies. Olympics came out and said it was bullshit. We can't breakdance very well down here. It's not a big deal.

Reuben Barrett

.e .is. t

Landon Parsons

Thanks Stinkling. I play some shooters and maybe that's what causes the wear, with clicking L3 for sprint. I just think, as Colin did follow up with, they should make them sturdier.

Nathan Densley

The overblown bullshit you're referring to?

KItty Crew

Chris I appreciate you going back to play through older ps4 games you’ve missed. Keep it up

Tristan Kimball

Colin is still wandering around the Pacific Islands defending the Helldivers 2 PSN debacle?

My most hated race is the 400m dash

Nobody would listen or watch a sacred plus episode in Concord. Nobody even wanted to play the beta when it was free. What reality are you living in?

My most hated race is the 400m dash

Raygun the dancer is an embarrassment to Australia. There’s currently a petition here to make her publicly apologise because she allegedly rigged the system to make it into the Olympics. Her husband was on the selection committee apparently

Adam Barnes

"Hellblade 2 really came and went like a fart" proceeded by Micah laughing in the background really got me lmao

Ethan Barcelos

Proud to say that the gamer battalion is taking care of its own. Stay strong Dustin and Holly, we are all pulling for you.

Timothy Martin

The bad thing being her opponent was assassinated

Have you considered considering considerations considerately considerate

Glad to see the community come together for the Furmans. Last stand has always been there for us going above and beyond in delivering quality content. I’m glad we could return the favor in some small way. As Colin said money only goes so far unfortunately in a situation such as this. All we can offer beyond that is our words of love and support. We’re thinking of you Dustin and Holly and little Emil. Much love and god bless!

Chris Evans

My wife is from Mexico and I hate to break it to you Colin but every part is a little bit like that, and it breaks my heart every time I’m there. So much wasted potential in that country. The people are so nice, the beaches are beautiful. They have a ton of natural resources. Advanced doctors and technology, which most people would be surprised to hear. There’s no middle class so you’re either rich or poor, and that’s caused from the sheer corruption. They did just have a big election though and I’ve heard mixed things about their new madame president. Some good some bad. I guess we shall see, but it’s been like that since I’ve been going there as a little kid.. Anything is possible. So they could turn things around.

Tanner Denso

its 100 percent a known issue that all 3 companies this generation are using the same companies module, and the module itself is cheap garbage.

Stinkling

PS5 controllers ARE JUNK. The sticks crap out within 1.5 years, same goes for Series X. The only modern controller i have that hasnt had the sticks crap out is the switch pro controller. The modules they use for the sticks in these modern controllers are known to be cheap. Like lets think here, is it more plausible the massive corporation is cheaping out or that everyone is absolutely railing their sticks? I treat my stuff like its made of fragile glass, and im not hard on my controllers, i only started having sticks crap out this generation. Never was an issue before. N64 all the way to now, im sorry but its obviously the corporation being cheap. There is zero excuse next gen if they dont swap to hall effect across the board. Refusing to move to hall effect (which are far less prone to drift) at this point in time is just blatant cost cutting.

Stinkling

I wish this had dropped in time for the Screen Rant Black Myth: Wukong review...

Greg McDonald

I would kill myself at a dry wedding.

Casey Cieslikowski

Much love to Holly and Dustin, and to their families ❤️❤️

Adam Barnes

Dustin, I wrote on the video version last week; if there was anything you needed, I’d be straight over there on a plane from here in the UK. I told my girlfriend (who doesn’t really listen to this) about your situation and we both had a moment of real sadness last week. I’m thinking of you and Holly most days. I wish I could be there for you, even though I am a stranger, and I imagine thousands of other people around the world feel the same. Stay safe and strong.

Matt

Concord is bad because it’s “woke” because only a “woke” person could create something so aesthetically vile. The woke left is equivalent to the ultra religious right, in that they are completely unable to create legitimate art. Like, leftists don’t understand that “The Boys” level of satire is on the same level as The Daily Wires “ladyballers”

Brandon V

Been keeping Dustin and Holly in my prayers. It’s a horrible situation that happened to two incredible, funny, kind, loving people. I know you’ll come out of this stronger. We, the fans, are here for you while you’re away and will be here when you return.

yosh_wah

Aside from the Diversity thing BMWukong has some mystery around it. It could just be bad.

Have you considered considering considerations considerately considerate

Garlic Football is wild.

Ohana means you’re gay

All love to Dustin. We’re so used to saying that the internet is a toxic and vile place, but if you’re lucky, in times like this it can be a place of love and support.

Diddy’s Dong Quest

There was a very recent study done on 1st time marriages and divorce and reasons why. It’s actually worth a read, that found 43% of 1st time marriages end in divorce. So sadly the number the guys said isn’t too far off.

Cameron O'Neill

I do think there is something behind the stick drift. I am very gentle with my controllers and my newest controller, a purple dual sense, now has drift. My two older dual sense are perfectly fine but, for some reason, the newest one got it.

king_ryan_james

He's going to get a strike three from the Irish who had their most successful games ever. Given their mostly amateur squad and per capita population they achieved more than the vast majority of countries in the world

kerry38

Keep talking shit about Ireland when you’re half Irish yourself boy

Daddy T

Is this from the personal Patreon RSS feed or the public one? Also what RSS reader are you using? (Spotify, Pocket Casts, Overcast, etc.)? Unfortunately we have no control over either (we just post here on Patreon and it gets sent to RSS feeds), but I can ask Patreon about it as yours is not the first comment I've seen to this effect. -Ben

Ben (Is Handsome)

I completely agree with the listener on Concord, it is definitely not getting a fair shake from the critics at all. More specifically to Colin and Chris, who I respect immensely, are people who self confess to not liking anything in the main stream popular consciousness in terms of IPs like Marvel, Star Wars or Super Hero content. So I find it hard when they are going to make blanket statements about what is visually appealing or not to the wider market. But I do think it is insane to say that using a similar style of the Marvel movies, most notably Guardians as an influence is an objectively bad idea. Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was the fourth highest grossing movie in 2023 and the franchise currently sits at a gross of $2.5 billion worldwide. Colin and Chris with multiplayer games sometimes come across as the Hollywood movie critic that rails against Marvel, Star Wars and Super Hero movies, yet everyone flocks to them and they are consistently one of the highest grossing movies ever year. FortNite, Overwatch, and Valorant are the most played games this year. This isn't a shot at Chris or Colin, I just think it is a blind spot for them and I agree with the listener it would be nice to have someone from that space comment on what they think of Concord maybe as a Plus episode.

Cameron O'Neill

Eww, I hate how French sounds. Rather listen to German.

Ohana means you’re gay

I've been listening to Sacred since 2020 after being a fan of Chris for a couple years. So around the time Dustin started coming on the show. I can't imagine a last stand at this point without Dustin. Wishing you and Holly the best right now, Dustin. Take all the time you need to heal and we'll still be here whenever you're ready. Colin and Chris, great show as always and great job supporting our boy. ❤️

Eric the human

RSS feed is kinda broken for for the last couple episodes. Latest sacred symbols ist 1:40 and Constellation only 21 minutes. Episodes on patreon are ok

alex huber

US men took gold and silver in skeet shooting. That’s strike two on disrespecting the Olympics ray gun.

Samuel Ashley

I’m not ready to start this episode 😥

Jannik Rafael Andersen

Hey guys, i'd love if you guys could comment on Black Myth Wukong's review from Screen Rant. These people rated the game 6/10 for "lack of diversity". My eyes widened when they told me about their criticism for the game, it's ridiculous.

Armando Pérez Roda

I see a lot of complaints lately on how there are no games to play. Meanwhile people didn’t buy Alan Wake 2 and that game is fucking excellent. Sure first party support has been a bit lackluster, but third party games have been great this generation. Some of these YouTubers are annoying AF with the “theRes nO GameS tO plAy” I started to unfollow them. I have never stopped playing new games this entire generation. Because I love gaming. Maybe I should start a YouTube channel lol. Listen to me because I play games unlike some of these fools. I, like Colin also want to see these trophy lists.

Michael Mashpotato

No clue how Colin got through reading that without breaking. I cried just from hearing it.

king_ryan_james

Bravo to Colin for reading that letter with a straight face. It brought me to tears at my desk. I can’t imagine what they’re going through, but it breaks my heart to think about. It’s so unfair.

Kenneth Koepnick

If you’re seeing this, Dustin, your letter brought me to tears. God is a mystery, indeed, but our faith in Him will sustain us. May He bless you and your family.

Ember's Arcade

Hey Colin! Ireland did only get 7 medals, but we finished 14th in overall table which is our best finish ever at an Olympics. The main reasons we've never been great at the games is due to lack of funding over the decades added to the fact Ireland play many other sports (rugby, soccer, garlic football and hurling to name but a few) however since these games there has been a movement to provide more funding to help our athletes make the games in the future, so here's hoping we can do even better in 2028!

james lawless

I could have never imagined what was going to happen last week. I’m sorry, Dustin. My heart goes out to you and Holly

Tristan Kimball

Sending all the love in the world to Dustin, Holly, and the entire LSM family ❤️

Tyler Roseberry

The thing about the statistic "50 percent of all marriages end in divorce" Is that it includes people who have been in multiple marriages. They count the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th etc marriages. This greatly skewes the stat in favor of the chronically problematic relationship people. A lot more marriages do not end in divorce than we all think.

Jason

Much love sent from Allentown to Colin and Chris. That was an emotional intro. My wife Ann and I will always have Dustin and Holly in our hearts ❤️🫶🙏

Michael Mashpotato

Final Fantasy Reunion?

Andre Watt

Amazingly well said at the beginning by Colin. Dustin letter was great. Thoughts and prayers with Dustin, Holy, and their families. Last stand media truly a special place.

oh that pesky dna

Dustin’s letter made me well up at work. Beautifully put, I have the utmost respect for his steadfastness in this awful situation.

Red Metal

Praying for you Dustin and Holly. We love you guys.

Henry Covert IV

The first few minutes of this were hard to listen to. I'm so sorry for you loss, Dustin. Take all the time you need <3

Eric Smith the Bartender (not the Sony Employee)

Still praying for you Dustin - you have a great heart! Colin, you’re a great boss - thank you for being a man of character!

Jeffrey Rommel

Hi Dustin, I am sorry to hear about your baby boy. My wife and I lost our baby girl in February after she carried her for 20 weeks. It hurts so much more for you guys after being so close to the finish line. We struggle with it everyday and you and Holly will always be thinking about it too. I am so sorry and life is totally just not fair. 😢 I hope Holly and you also seek out therapy (if you find it helpful), as that’s helped my wife greatly. Thanks for all that you do for last stand, but take this time off for healing ❤️‍🩹 and being there for Holly (and for yourself). My wife and I will be praying for your family. 🙏🏻

ZombiesNJ

Can't wait to hear what DerrickGotMolestedBytheWitchQueen wrote in this time

SpectreBull

Only Raygun i know breakdances

Pediatrician Disrespect

This one is gonna hurt…..😮‍💨🙏🫡

Nicholas Hardacre

🫡🫡🫡

ThatNickWalker


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