EARLY/UNCUT: Glee Season 2: Episode 14 "Blame It On The Alcohol" | REACTION
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Kurt's biphobia in this episode feels so out of left field for his character, but actually I still wish the writers would've actually rolled with it and had Kurt have to be educated on the subject and realize he was wrong, because biphobia is a serious issue in the LGBT community. But no, that would mean the Glee writers would have had to be competent lmao
Sunny
2020-07-05 23:35:56 +0000 UTCAlso, Glee is horrendously racist, not only with it’s jokes but in representation. Look at how Mercedes and Tina were treated. Let’s argue about that for once...
Fiskekake
2020-07-04 01:34:45 +0000 UTCAnd because, there were (and still are, let’s not pretend,) so few shows dealing with our community, every mistake felt like a blow. Leading to infighting. The biphobia in this episode was inexcusable. Still is. I’m just glad younger reactors seem to not blame Kurt for the horribly flawed writing regarding Kurt and Finn. At the time I remember so many thinly veiled homophobes arguing that Kurt was close to a rapist and an abuser...Pretty much 50/50. And then celebrating and feeling justified when the episode came about were Burt "called" Kurt out. Biphobia without correcting is fucked up, other letters in our umbrella is still to be fucked up in future episodes. Still, I feel Glee and Ryan Murphy did more good than bad for our extended family. Because I remember the world at that time and at least this was more than the scraps that other shows offered.
Fiskekake
2020-07-04 01:19:33 +0000 UTCWell, this is what I meant commenting on an earlier episode...Ryan Murphy and co, while, at the time, providing more representation than most other shows, still managed to fuck things up. In those days, I remember, how much it meant just to see queer people on the screen. Burt certainly seemed close to an ideal dad, because most dads at the time would be a hundred times worse... So Glee naturally attracted the whole beautiful spectrum of queer people, looking for fair representation and to see themselves respectfully realized on screen. You had Murphy, a gay, white, CIS man and two white straight dudes doing the bulk of the writing.
Fiskekake
2020-07-04 01:03:52 +0000 UTCThis ep has some of my fave songs but exemplifies how messy the storylines and the message of the show can get imo. As lots have pointed out, Kurt's unchecked biphobia was wrong and I think the writers missed out on a great opportunity to make Blaine bisexual and have Kurt accept that rather than reject even the idea of it. I think the show's attitude of having episodes where we love characters and then episodes where we hate them is their attempt to humanise the characters and ground them as teenagers, but what it just comes off as is messy especially in a show with such a huge ensemble cast. And if they were properly held accountable when making mistakes and actually grew then that would work, but it just results in character development without the development. A to B without the transition. Occasionally it's there but rarely is it.
Sebastian Whitaker
2020-07-03 15:25:07 +0000 UTCWell, aren't you ashamed that a 16 year old knows more about biphobia than you?
yari mandi
2020-07-03 08:24:33 +0000 UTCKurt is my favorite character, but his biphobia in this episode was so gross. I would have been ok with it if they educated him on it, and called him out, but they framed him as right. It was terrible. Offensive on EVERY level. The only positive thing about that SL was the “bye” line from Blaine, and I think Chris (Kurt’s actor) was really good in the fight scene. You could totally tell that Kurt was hurt by the whole situation because the acting was so good on his part.
Fizzy
2020-07-03 06:24:22 +0000 UTCGreat reaction! Some parts of the episode are a bit iffy, but I always thought it was a pretty funny one overall!
Ailish
2020-07-03 01:13:09 +0000 UTCYou told me I was dumb for arguing with a child, and I realized you were right. I didn't really look at your pic. Sorry about that.
Ryan Roach
2020-07-03 00:57:08 +0000 UTCI felt the disrespect from Kurt this episode. I always skip his parts due to his biphobia. The fact that he told Burt that he needed to be educated is so hypocritical.
Clay W
2020-07-03 00:16:29 +0000 UTC@RyanRoach fucking coward deleting his comments. Just fuck off man
yari mandi
2020-07-03 00:01:40 +0000 UTCImagine arguing with bi/pan people about biophobia and then just deleting all the comments rather than owning up to your mistakes 🤡🤡🤡
Ash
2020-07-03 00:01:05 +0000 UTCRyan, here's a tips. Don't fucking assume people's sexualities, periodt.
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:55:18 +0000 UTCDon't tell how the fuck I'm supposed to feel. You said that the writers weren't Biphobic and that everything is good cuz kurt was right in the end. Please stop arguing with bi people on who's Biphobic or not. Imagine being an stupid adult arguing about Glee🤡🤡🤡
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:50:45 +0000 UTCThis is a biphobic storyline, bi people are allowed to be angry about it. Pls don't say how we should feel
Pancake
2020-07-02 23:49:23 +0000 UTCRyan, what you said, whether you meant it or not hurt bi people. So yes, Diya is allowed to take that personally. Saying things about Kurt this episode like « he was hurting » and telling bi people not to call someone (Ryan Murphy) biphobic is harmful.
Ash
2020-07-02 23:47:33 +0000 UTCSo it’s ok then to assume because Kurt is gay, he’s going to have sex with any boy who sleeps over? Is that what you’re trying to say? Burt shouldn’t have just jumped to the assumption that he was inappropriate with Blaine just because he slept over. Nor should be have banned male sleepovers. Like I said, he should’ve just had a conversation with Kurt, asked him what the situation was, and asked him to be honest with him about his relationship with boys and asked him to talk to him first about sleeping over. I understand Burt was shocked to find Blaine in Kurt’s bed, but he could’ve handled it better. You forget that Kurt also knows his dad. There’s probably never been an issue with asking for permission for sleepovers before so you can imagine how hurtful it would be for Kurt for there suddenly to be an issue because his friend was a boy.
Elizabeth
2020-07-02 23:47:29 +0000 UTCDiya, I came out to my mom when I was 19 and she said she had known since I was a little boy and I was greatly relieved it wasn't a shock to her and she wasn't going to disown me or something. I was very similar to the Kurt/Burt conversation. It's perfectly normal to assume sexuality based on behavior. Virtually everyone has done it. They used to call it "gaydar". Of course, your assumption could be incorrect, but so what?
Ryan Roach
2020-07-02 23:47:08 +0000 UTCYeah, I understand. I forgot all of that Kurt/Britanny moment when I said you can't blame him earlier. My bad, sorry.
Ju
2020-07-02 23:45:50 +0000 UTCIts 2020, can we stop assuming your kid is cis and het please? Stop assuming their gender and sexuality as the one they were assigned and straight. Its damaging.
Jesse
2020-07-02 23:43:58 +0000 UTCI'm not mad of what he said,I'm mad at people trying to justify his behavior. Or anyone's behavior when they do something wrong.
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:43:13 +0000 UTCDid you really say it's good to assume your child's sexuality? Wtf is wrong with you? You don't assume anyone's sexuality based on how they act as a fucking child. It's disgusting to say "I've known since you were 3" like stfu. The fact that you only see it from your point of view and say "no harm done". Have you even been in Kurt's situation where your dad just randomly says that he's known your sexuality before even you knew? Based on how you act, you don't ever do that. The child's behavior is not a result of sexuality!!
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:41:31 +0000 UTCIf Burt had actually said that he was wrong with Brittany staying over and not had said that he felt uncomfortable and that is was inappropriate I would have agreed. But he didn’t. Also, being decent about your son coming out is the minimum. I’m not saying he is a bad parent. He was a good one imo, but he was also clearly still uncomfortable with Kurt being gay and made mistakes.
Lovegood
2020-07-02 23:41:02 +0000 UTCYoooo cishet parents are kinda wild though. Like, no sleepovers with ANYONE of the gender youre attracted to because oh no sex might happen? Where do i go? I'm nonbinary anyone van be attracted to me. Do i sleep outside? In the gutter? With the rain? I- like, even when my mum found put i was bi she was like "okay guess sleepovers are banned" LIKE WHAT IS THIS JUST A THING ALL CISHETS DO?
Jesse
2020-07-02 23:38:47 +0000 UTCYou're right. They handled that badly but I think that what Burt said is important because it shows how parents can badly react in those situations.
Ju
2020-07-02 23:37:11 +0000 UTCPeriodt
Pancake
2020-07-02 23:36:34 +0000 UTCPREACH
Ash
2020-07-02 23:34:13 +0000 UTCWe're not defending the writers and Kurt this episode. Biphobia is very serious and no one is gonna say that Kurt was right in the end. Those comments were rough and awful and it felt shitty to watch that episode. To everyone who's defending the whole situation, go educate yourself and don't talk to me about what's biphobia and what's not.
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:31:29 +0000 UTClmao
Ju
2020-07-02 23:30:34 +0000 UTCJealous teens lashing out and say biphobic things. It's still biphobic. And they did not handle the story well. Make him biphobic, fine. Then educate him, not just some argument and not even apologizing?
Pancake
2020-07-02 23:30:02 +0000 UTCLove that you edited that comment after I responded. You can be jealous and biphobic at the same time. Imagine trying to justify bigotry because someone was jealous 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ash
2020-07-02 23:29:42 +0000 UTCI mean you defending Kurt this episode is a personal attack considering the things he said. I'm bi and I'm really pissed about your reasoning about this whole situation.
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:28:41 +0000 UTCRyan, are you actually Ryan Murphy???
Michelle
2020-07-02 23:28:35 +0000 UTCMy bitch ass woke up from a good sleep and I see all these arguments in the comments i- 👁👄👁
Jesse
2020-07-02 23:28:29 +0000 UTCYes, saying bisexual people aren’t real isn’t okay just because Blaine is gay. Shaming Blaine for exploring is sexuality is not okay just because he is gay. Having a character on one of the only tv shows at the time with Queer representation say « bisexual is a made up term » was very harmful and hurt a lot of people including myself. Kurt doesn’t get a pass because he was jealous, he doesn’t get a pass because blaine came to the conclusion he was gay. I truly do not understand why I even had to type that. The clownery 🤡
Ash
2020-07-02 23:24:32 +0000 UTCYup! Burt was in the wrong then. :/ At least, he educated himself later on and he grew from it ! ^^
Ju
2020-07-02 23:21:38 +0000 UTCUhmm assuming your child's sexuality based on their behavior is not good wtf. I don't know what you've learned but that's not good at all. Humans are complex and therefore acts different, just because a boy stands out or acts feminine doesn't mean they're gay. And for the record don't call me self righteously angry, you don't know me at all. Shut the fuck up and sit your stupid ass down and educate yourself
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:19:59 +0000 UTCNo ok. First of all no. We’re not going to be calling anyone self-righteously angry for trying to explain why this behavior is hurtful to someone trying to defend it. The point is, Burt didn’t care about Kurt possibility having sex with Brittany in his house, but he cared when it was Blaine.
Elizabeth
2020-07-02 23:18:35 +0000 UTCSo what you’re saying is you did not watch the whole series and you are arguing with bi people who tell you that there is a lot of biphobia in the show. It would spoil Morgan but i could drop an entire list of biphobic moments in this season alone. I was in high school when Glee aired and the biohobia on the show hurt me. Don’t tell bi people how to respond to biohobia. If Diya is angry, she gets to be angry. Also, Idk why you wanna defend Ryan Murphy so badly...
Ash
2020-07-02 23:17:09 +0000 UTCPreach !
Ju
2020-07-02 23:13:53 +0000 UTCRyan the episode where brittany and Kurt make out was not the same episode where Kurt came out, it was way later but that doesn’t matter. Kurt litterally told Burt he was going to have sex with Brittany and Burt said “you kids be safe” and left them alone. He had no way of knowing at all if Kurt was going to go through with it. Anyway, I love Burt and think he’s a good dad, but he definitely over reacted in this scene. He could’ve just asked Kurt if anything was going on between him and Blaine and asked him to talk to him first if anything does happen.
Elizabeth
2020-07-02 23:10:49 +0000 UTCDon't you think it's pretty bizarre to say to your child that you've known since they were 3? Just because they don't act like the stereotypical boy. If Burt knew Kurt was faking then he should've said or done something, instead he gets happy and plays along instead of encouraging him to be himself. Maybe Kurt should've asked for permission but Burt was overreacting and was still confused/not ok with the "gay stuff".
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:09:31 +0000 UTCYou know that people who are gay can actually have sex with a girl to try and prove they are straight right? If Burt wanted to play chicken that could have ended very badly. Also Kurt wasn’t officially out yet. He could’ve been straight. Or bi. Or pan. His father just assumed.
Lovegood
2020-07-02 23:08:49 +0000 UTCAnyway, at least he educated himself later on in the series ( Won't spoil when)
Ju
2020-07-02 23:05:42 +0000 UTCIt's not the same episode but I see what you mean.
Ju
2020-07-02 23:04:52 +0000 UTCYes, they are high school kids, and I can still call them out. And yes that happens after s4. It happens more in s2 and 3 too but it's more subtle than this.
Pancake
2020-07-02 23:04:20 +0000 UTCRight?
Ju
2020-07-02 23:04:15 +0000 UTCI mean it's all pretty clear, don't you think? A lot of Biphobic things happen before s4, and maybe you didn't notice cuz they were small comments. But you can literally see by the way they write that they're Biphobic. I'm not gonna say anything else cuz I don't want to spoil Morgan, but some of the characters writing is Biphobic af.
yari mandi
2020-07-02 23:01:53 +0000 UTCNoone can defend Kurts Biphobia in this episode periodt, love him hes my favorite character but he was so wrong this episode. Stan Blaine.
Michelle
2020-07-02 22:59:09 +0000 UTCI loveee Burt but was not a great dad right away, he grew a lot throughout the show. We need to call him out for what he did wrong
Pancake
2020-07-02 22:57:07 +0000 UTCThe thing is that Burt wouldn't have reacted this strongly if it was Finn and another girl. Plus yall cant make shit up and say, "He knew he was faking it". Burt literally saw Kurt make out with the girl and didn't care at all. It's worse if he knew he was faking and let him do that, that's just disgusting. I won't say Burt is trash, but he's not an amazing dad either. He even said that he don't know what two dudes do with each other and implies that 2 gay guys can't be friends. I'm sick of people defending Burt and not seeing how hypocritical he is sometimes.
yari mandi
2020-07-02 22:54:39 +0000 UTCImagine trying to justify a character saying that « bisexual is a made up term » couldn’t be me. Wild concept: you can love Kurt and still acknowledge that what he did in this episode was wrong and that the writers handled this subject terribly. It’s funny how despite Kurt believing otherwise, I am bi because bi people are real. Love you Kurt but you a whole ass biphobic mess this episode
Ash
2020-07-02 22:51:43 +0000 UTCIf they want to do this, they should have Kurt being biphobic at first but educate himself or being educated
Pancake
2020-07-02 22:46:44 +0000 UTCWhat has that anything to do with this situation? If Kurt was right about Blaine? The fact is that my second favorite character Kurt was Biphobic and nothing can excuse that. If you're saying that Kurt was not Biphobic and only trying to make blaine realize that he's gay, then you need to go and read a book. This is 100% biphobia and it's awful. Kurt literally says that bisexuality is a term for confused gay people, which means he does not believe it exists. What you can say is that the writers are the ones to blame cuz they've done several Biphobic comments and actions in the show, which means the writers are the ones who are Biphobic. But don't go around and say what Kurt said was not Biphobic, cuz it was. Bye boomer
yari mandi
2020-07-02 22:46:10 +0000 UTCRyan, this is not the only instance of awful comments made about bisexuality in this show. (Which Morgan knows so it’s not a spoiler) The writers were 100% biphobic, and they made Kurt biphobic because that was their true beliefs. There is no argument on that. Yes Kurt was hurt, but that doesn’t excuse what he said. Like Morgan said, we can call out our favorite characters when they’ve done something wrong and still like them.
Elizabeth
2020-07-02 22:46:02 +0000 UTCBlaine not being Bi doesn’t make what Kurt did okay, what’s not clicking?
Ash
2020-07-02 22:45:50 +0000 UTCYes Blaine won but Kurt needed to apologize and realize his mistake. And Kurt was proven right what about Blaine? About him being angry at Blaine for exploring his sexuality? They can still date if Blaine is bi
Pancake
2020-07-02 22:43:04 +0000 UTCSure Jan 🤡
Ash
2020-07-02 22:40:28 +0000 UTCI can blame Burt. He was a bit of a hypocrite because he just left Brittany and Kurt alone with the door closed when they were kissing. But when Blaine slept over it was inappropriate, that just sent the wrong message to me. I love Burt but yeah.
Lovegood
2020-07-02 22:37:04 +0000 UTCKurt really hurt me in this ep. I still love him and he is still my favorite but it was bad what he said.
Lovegood
2020-07-02 22:32:55 +0000 UTCYou really can't blame Burt tho. He isn't educated on the subject and for him his son sleeping (even without sex) with another dude is the same as if Finn would have done it with a girl. And the fact that Kurt didn't ask him permission just made it inappropriate and awkward for him because he doesn't know how to deal with it.
Ju
2020-07-02 22:31:15 +0000 UTCEnough with the fluff, where’s Breaking bad? I’m kidding, I’m just excited 😁
Sandra
2020-07-02 22:27:53 +0000 UTCI love Kurt but the biophobia ain’t it son. Bi people exist even when you are feeling jealous.
Ash
2020-07-02 22:26:48 +0000 UTCBIOTA is probably one of the most conflicting episode in the Glee fandom. I think what bugged me the most is that it made me really dislike my favorite characters up to this point. Kurt: The writers did him dirty by writing in those Biphobic lines and never addressing why they were wrong, I just feel like it was really out of character for him. Blaine- Its totally ok questioning your sexuality and Blaine was 100% in the right to be upset, but comparing Kurt to Karofsky was not right either and was totally out of line. Rachel- I felt bad for Rachel as the stuff with Finn was still bothering her, but this episode just showed how selfish she can be. Rachel knew how lonely Kurt was and how much he liked Blaine and for her to even entertain the idea of dating Blaine just showed how bad of a friend she is and that she didn't care about Kurt's feelings.
Bree6v6
2020-07-02 22:22:52 +0000 UTCI'm bi and Kurt is my favorite character, I still can acknowledge his biphobia in this ep. Hurting is not an excuse for being biphobic
Pancake
2020-07-02 22:20:25 +0000 UTCOk, so Kurt is not the only biphobic character in the show. I'm not saying who bc spoilers. And they are NEVER corrected. Blaine did say something in this ep but it's not enough And in the end, Kurt was proven that he was right, without apologizing and any consequences. The show want us to think he was right.
Pancake
2020-07-02 22:17:21 +0000 UTCRyan Murphy's biphobia really show in this ep
Pancake
2020-07-02 21:25:51 +0000 UTCI genuinely hated Kurt in this episode. He basically told Blaine that bisexuality doesn’t exist. You'd think that Kurt would be a little more open minded than that.
blamphan
2020-07-02 21:16:57 +0000 UTC
