FULL DISCUSSION - Star Trek TNG S3E11 - The Hunted
Added 2024-05-24 01:50:41 +0000 UTC
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Definitely a commentary on dealing with soldiers coming home. Vietnam was still in memory of the writer, etc. (before Gulf War I). Notice the stressing of "we had a vote, and the people didn't want them anymore."
C
2024-06-10 16:41:43 +0000 UTCAgreed. Mid tier episode, not bad with a good message about treatment of veterans, but with a clunky execution and waaay too long on the 'escape' sequence.
The Ninth Doctor
2024-06-05 21:37:41 +0000 UTCwhile this may not be the favorite episode of anyone (btw, my favorite is coming soon) it always touches me deeply - as a peacenik hippie in the 70's, who marched against the war in Vietnam, i had mixed feeling about the people who served there - later i became close to a former green beret Lt. who, while physically unharmed, was terribly wounded by, as he said, "all the killling" - the message in this episode speaks volumes on behalf of those who serve - to all veterans i say Welcome Home.
jan
2024-06-02 22:03:40 +0000 UTCI am elder than all Star Trek episodes from this point onwards (dob 04/01/1990). XD
James Knight
2024-05-27 02:54:31 +0000 UTCThis one and the next get mixed up in my recollections, there are some thematic similarities and mullets.
Paul Rymer
2024-05-26 17:26:59 +0000 UTCIt's interesting and a lot of fun watching along with you guys. I saw the entire series as a kid in its first run, but honestly never really went back to watch it after that initial viewing. Many of these episodes I don't even remember, so it's cool seeing them again for the 'first' time. ETA: Oh, I remember this episode. It was actually one of my favorites as a kid, and I still enjoyed it watching it 30yrs or whatever later. As an adult, perhaps a bit less. I do still like the main character and the basic idea that the race developed super soldiers then didn't know what to do with them after a war.
Boggle
2024-05-26 00:26:14 +0000 UTCOh…and the wrestling!
T’Pynyn of Vulcan
2024-05-25 17:32:49 +0000 UTCHonestly, I'm really glad that your opinion disagrees with the fan consensus, and with mine, sometimes. Far more interesting that way, and more fun to watch than reactors who seem to just like everything. I still think I'd describe this episode as "solid", though I can also see the fairness of your criticisms. I guess the thing for me is that I really enjoy the drawn out chase through the ship; I find it really fun to see so many different locations on the Enterprise, and to watch the crew try to keep up with him.
Steven Linden
2024-05-25 16:54:04 +0000 UTCThese deep dive discussions are the best part of your channel IMHO! Thank you! 😊
T’Pynyn of Vulcan
2024-05-25 05:10:20 +0000 UTCCareful....
Greg Quinn
2024-05-25 05:04:26 +0000 UTCThat was nice to for a lame episode, this is still a lot better than most of what you saw in season 1 or 2
harrypothead42024
2024-05-24 20:05:05 +0000 UTCBut if this was a Season 1 or 2 episode, how would you have felt about it?
Ee'char
2024-05-24 18:14:00 +0000 UTCThe forcefield was down. Even in the episode, they're implying he ran out of the brig when everyone was stunned. Remember how Worf immediately says a phaser is missing?
JD Nevesytrof
2024-05-24 12:47:03 +0000 UTCIt was a bit hard to believe no one reacted by firing back, after he shot the wall beside/behind the PM….imagine if that was the President IRL
Derek Orr
2024-05-24 12:11:55 +0000 UTCLoved how the space suit was a thing set of coveralls in a plastic bag, like something from amazon
Derek Orr
2024-05-24 12:10:49 +0000 UTCSure but that explains the explosion and flash…but does not explain how he left the cell
Derek Orr
2024-05-24 12:09:33 +0000 UTCDon't worry guys. The six or so bangers we talked about are still waiting for you.
Sam Langanke
2024-05-24 12:07:29 +0000 UTCWe saw running down corridor in season 1 finale
Derek Orr
2024-05-24 12:07:21 +0000 UTCThat tube corridor is the same set as the corridor that Scotty walks down and hits his head in Star Trek 5
Derek Orr
2024-05-24 12:03:30 +0000 UTCThere is in future shows, and I obviously won't go further
Andreas Schmitt
2024-05-24 12:03:16 +0000 UTCThere is no real dialogue or indications that a member planets military gets absorbed into starfleet.
Derek Orr
2024-05-24 12:01:01 +0000 UTCLike Donkey Kong.
Sam Langanke
2024-05-24 11:55:35 +0000 UTC1/32 ME 262
Monty Crawford
2024-05-24 11:52:58 +0000 UTCThe application to join the federation is kinda like the process to join the EU. You can apply to join. In order to be able to, you have to fulfill certain criteria, like level of development, being a stable global society, being a democracy or similar stable non-oppressive system, rule of law, etc. Then the federation sends ambassadors or Star Ships to check the planet, be shown everything and writes several reports on all these things. Then the federation council decides whether to accept the application or not. If you're accepted, your military, if you have one, will be absorbed into Starfleet, you get representation on the council etc etc. So it's a process not too dissimilar to processes we already have for joining multinational organizations. Like Sweden recently joining NATO.. and integrating its military into NATO command structure.. that's similar to a planet's fleet joining Star Fleet.. and the civilian process with the application and the criteria you need to fulfill before being accepted as a candidate.. that's very much like joining the EU.
Andreas Schmitt
2024-05-24 11:05:48 +0000 UTCMight be the teeth 😁
tyranusfan
2024-05-24 11:04:02 +0000 UTCNo spoiling.. so can't get specific. But they almost never run. Lol
Greg Quinn
2024-05-24 08:06:49 +0000 UTCFight scenes were decent by the standards of the time.
Greg Quinn
2024-05-24 08:05:15 +0000 UTCThe metaphor is PTSD, their programming and augmentation is like veterans who fought and killed in war trying to fit back into normal society.
Philbot
2024-05-24 06:57:15 +0000 UTCGreat reaction as always guys. This one I pretty much agree 100% with your take.
Glenn Johnson Barnes
2024-05-24 06:56:28 +0000 UTCWorf’s weakness is Barrels.
Philbot
2024-05-24 06:44:27 +0000 UTCI think because they couldn’t read him it was harder to get an accurate fix on him. As long as he was standing still they could energize but if he “stepped out ” he could disrupt the beam.
Philbot
2024-05-24 06:43:09 +0000 UTCAnd he was Jack Bauer's father on "24".
KatWithAttitude
2024-05-24 06:37:29 +0000 UTCYour comment about the cell in the brig looking like Star Wars I found apt. TNG mostly has its own design aesthetic which isn't the same as, but sometimes overlaps with, another design aesthetic from the 70s and 80s called Cassette Futurism or NASA-punk. It's much more prevalent in the set designs in the Star Wars movies and shows outside the prequels, as well as movies like Alien, and TV shows like the original Battlestar Galactica. TNG's general aesthetic was pretty unique to that show. Because they designed their own idea of futuristic technologies instead of primarily using off-the-shelf 80s-era tech like keyboards and CRT TVs everywhere on the sets, I feel the show has aged more timelessly (especially when getting to watch it in HD) than other sci-fi shows from the 80s and 90s. Some of the overlaps though might be the general gray and beige tones of interiors, the peculiar shape and orange hue of the larger doors (like the ones used on the holodecks and cargo bays), etc.
Vina
2024-05-24 05:34:53 +0000 UTCLike I said in the patron takes thread (I wish you addressed it) this episode has action and danger, which is a change of pace for TNG. That it is a change of pace is good enough. TNG rarely has any sort of physical nonsense on the shows, this was a different and welcome vibe, although the fight scenes could have been better.
Ken R
2024-05-24 05:14:36 +0000 UTCThe writing on this episode is just weak. You can clearly tell it's not written by someone very knowledgeable about TNG. It's basically First Blood so it's not very original, the stuff with the transporter is odd and just kind of breaks how the transporter works...best to never think about that scene ever again, just erase it from your brain...and while yeah I get he's a "super soldier" he makes the enterprise look like a bunch of chumps which is never a GOOD thing, you don't want your meh guest making the flagship of the federation look like a bunch of incapable idiots. The more I think about this episode the more I dislike it :)
Todd Pritchett
2024-05-24 05:12:37 +0000 UTCI always notice the styrofoam texture of the stuff that falls on Worf.
Mike Rogers
2024-05-24 04:55:41 +0000 UTCThis, together with a season 4 and 5 episode, is in my collection of guilty pleasure episodes. It's not super dense but enjoyable, so sometimes when I want to put on some TNG episode, this actually what I often pick. And I personally liked the guest star performance, especially while in the cell.
Andreas Schmitt
2024-05-24 04:08:23 +0000 UTCJames Cromwell was Stretch Cunningham on All In The Family.
Roland_D
2024-05-24 04:07:37 +0000 UTCTakes them friggin' forever to get to Engineering! That look that Worf has when he discovered the phaser powering the transporter in the cargo bay always amuses me, for some reason. And the way he says "din-NAHR!" several times.
Jovet
2024-05-24 03:33:33 +0000 UTCI agree with you 100% this is an ok episode.
Lt Dan I scream
2024-05-24 03:25:53 +0000 UTCHis wife Cindy
JD Nevesytrof
2024-05-24 03:24:37 +0000 UTCThe shot of Worf casually strolling toward Engineering while Geordi is getting his ass kicked always makes me shake my head, then laugh. In that order.
tyranusfan
2024-05-24 03:21:21 +0000 UTCWhich model?
tyranusfan
2024-05-24 03:20:28 +0000 UTCHonestly I'm fine with breaking out of a transporter beam as a twist, but give us some sort of explanation that makes some sort of sense. Like they're about to energize and suddenly he punches a light fixture and electrocutes himself to disrupt the beam, SOMETHING.
JD Nevesytrof
2024-05-24 03:18:55 +0000 UTCYeah, I watched the entire episode to give an accurate take... and then watched it again to get the reaction... I doubt I'll ever watch it again.
John
2024-05-24 03:05:22 +0000 UTCI think where it mostly falls short is the actor playing Danar. I don't think the script was too bad. He was given plenty to work with, but he seemed to make the easy acting choices rather than go deeper.
Collin Freeman
2024-05-24 02:58:25 +0000 UTCI think if it had more of a Rambo vibe it would work better. I mean, ala First Blood. where we are seeing the suffering a little more. The problem here is all of the mistreatment is told, not shown. It's verbal. Seeing the injustice more directly for these men would have been nice. Maybe some archival footage of these men being shunned or seeing them forced off the planet to the colony.
Steven Johnson
2024-05-24 02:52:20 +0000 UTCI like it a lot too
JD Nevesytrof
2024-05-24 02:49:46 +0000 UTCYeah this one is alright. It's mildly interesting, but not mind blowing or particularly profound. It's not boring. It IS rewatchable—give it a few years.
Jovet
2024-05-24 02:38:46 +0000 UTCI’ve never been excited about this one, but I definitely enjoy it more than you guys did. I guess I liked the war allegory and like Picard’s great decision at the end.
Joe Concepts
2024-05-24 02:35:43 +0000 UTCSo, what we're getting at here is this is absolutely not in the top 6 of the season.
Steven Johnson
2024-05-24 02:34:31 +0000 UTC5:38 Alex has got it!!
Jovet
2024-05-24 02:23:18 +0000 UTCYeah, mediocre is the perfect description for this episode. This is, in fact, the first time I’ve watched it since it originally aired. All I remembered was how unmemorable it was.
StealthMomo
2024-05-24 02:20:56 +0000 UTCIts also a difference between the time era, we used to refer to paper blueprints that we'd bought mail order or at a convention to see what "section of whatever section" that Danar was fighting his way through.
Alan Thompson
2024-05-24 02:07:40 +0000 UTCWorking on a model, watch in a bit.
Monty Crawford
2024-05-24 01:53:03 +0000 UTC
