SEUS PTGI E9 Dev News 2
Added 2019-08-08 23:19:57 +0000 UTC
Hey everyone, sorry it's been a while since the last news post or update! Here's what's been going on.
So, I bought an AMD Radeon RX 580 GPU a few weeks ago and have been working on AMD GPU compatibility for SEUS PTGI E9. I was quite disappointed with the performance on this card, though, and after some investigation, I found the cause. Due to differences in hardware design, AMD GPUs tend to struggle with geometry shaders that have a lot of input geometry.
I utilize geometry shaders in order to allow for both voxelization for GI and sunlight shadows simultaneously. However, the work that was being done in this step wasn't much more than a simple copying of all geometry once, and so I started wondering if a different approach could be taken to avoid geometry shaders entirely.
After discussing it with the developer of OptiFine, the latest version of OptiFine for Minecraft 1.14.4 now has a new feature, which is the ability to tell OptiFine to render geometry in a certain stage more than once. Using this feature, I'm able to skip using geometry shaders entirely! This provides a very slight speedup on NVIDIA graphics cards, but offers huge speedups on the RX 580 (this should apply to other AMD cards as well)! At times I've seen a doubling of frame rate utilizing this new feature instead of geometry shaders!
So, I've been working on getting this new alternative approach to be as robust as the old geometry shaders approach, as well as generally working on AMD compatibility. There are a few visual bugs remaining that I can't seem to track down, but since it's been so long and they're relatively minor, I think I'll leave those for E10; I don't want to keep you guys waiting any longer!
More concerning about AMD compatibility is that I seem to encounter random crashes whenever SEUS PTGI's shaders are loaded. Sometimes I just have to try multiple times to successfully get in-game without a crash, and I can't seem to find the cause or figure out why it's just completely random. Has anyone else with an AMD GPU who has been testing SEUS PTGI out experienced this?
And of course, I've been finalizing the main new feature for E9, which is ray tracing that considers uniquely shaped blocks. Right now I've got all stair variants, all fence variants, all slab variants, and all door variants working, and I've got them working with reflection tracing as well as diffuse lighting tracing.
However, since I'm not using geometry shaders anymore, voxelization is a little more difficult to keep robust, so it's more sensitive to breaking when custom block models are used. I definitely don't like this limitation. I'll be working on seeing if I can get voxelization to be more robust to custom block models.
So, because E9 will use the new "instancing" feature of OptiFine instead of geometry shaders, it will only be compatible with Minecraft 1.14.4 until this feature is added to OptiFine for previous versions of Minecraft. Compatibility with 1.13 and 1.12 will come when this happens.
This update has turned out to be a really complicated one, thanks for hanging in there!
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VibeMusic
2021-05-13 17:25:02 +0000 UTCgo to this link and get it for free https://www.mediafire.com/file/eg5rvxasl6gnjf8/SEUS_PTGI_E9.zip/file
latest Movies
2020-04-29 11:56:51 +0000 UTCthanks for sharing the link i got it for free
latest Movies
2020-04-29 11:56:14 +0000 UTCwhen will the windows 10 rtx come out?
Eymard
2020-04-04 12:12:46 +0000 UTCWhy does ptgi e9 look better than ptgi e11?
Bob
2019-12-20 04:06:31 +0000 UTCJ'a iune rx 580 nitro+, j'aimerais avoir le seus ptgi mais quelle abonnement je dois prendre ???
Hunger_Legend
2019-11-24 10:19:11 +0000 UTChow to download this
2019-10-12 12:42:16 +0000 UTCaca el link amigos, se los comparto https://www.mediafire.com/file/eg5rvxasl6gnjf8/SEUS_PTGI_E9.zip/file
2019-09-24 02:24:46 +0000 UTCPlase can you add volumetric fog and dof option?? Thank you.
2019-09-22 18:44:25 +0000 UTCthanks for the info it is greatly appreciated
2019-09-15 17:09:39 +0000 UTCdamn tusing122 he will release it for free soon it is just in beta right now
Ashton Erlandson
2019-09-15 04:33:17 +0000 UTCyou don't need to pay a monthly bill, you can buy the patreon, download the shader and then unsubscribe from it before the next billing cycle. I don't do that because I like to support him and his awesome work, but if you're just here for the shader and nothing else, by all means do that.
2019-09-14 01:31:14 +0000 UTCsonic ether can you make the price more reasonable it seems weird to pay a monthly bill
2019-09-14 00:00:33 +0000 UTCdont use renewed, it has a massive bug that makes leaves, water, and sand shake uncontrollably after about 3-5 minutes.
2019-09-13 21:30:50 +0000 UTCThis shader pack shown here is basically real-time ray tracing and isn't ready for pubilc release. Thus he is funding the development through the gold tier.
Morgan
2019-09-11 20:45:16 +0000 UTCThis Shader That Sonic Ether Made takes a Lot of hard work to make and takes a lot of time to make it this good. That is why You should support him to encourage him by becoming a patron.
2019-09-11 12:08:53 +0000 UTChe has a free version https://sonicether.com/download/seus-renewed-v1-0-0/
2019-09-11 09:57:35 +0000 UTCill just head to sildurs at least his is free,there are a lot of free shaders there!
2019-09-11 01:12:14 +0000 UTCthis shaderpack isn't free?!
2019-09-11 01:11:31 +0000 UTCThey will be
Matthew
2019-09-10 20:19:18 +0000 UTCAre the shaders free
2019-09-10 19:36:40 +0000 UTChi
2019-09-10 10:20:55 +0000 UTCHello, i'm very poor, i selled my son for pack of rice. Can you please send me these for free? i don't understand dollars, i just wanna play minecraft all my life, my family already hates me for selling my son. please, thank you.
2019-09-08 19:40:37 +0000 UTCi have a problem with the texture pack. When i load in a world, my whole screen is covered by weird colors and the different blocks in Minecraft for some reason. I don't know how to get it away
2019-09-08 14:20:49 +0000 UTCThanks!
2019-09-08 02:18:13 +0000 UTChttps://www.patreon.com/umsoea that texure is this
柏漢 張
2019-09-08 02:10:40 +0000 UTCDoes anyone happen to know what texture pack is that in the picture?
2019-09-07 15:10:22 +0000 UTCjeez
2019-09-05 14:49:28 +0000 UTCthough
2019-09-05 14:49:23 +0000 UTChough sory misspell
2019-09-05 14:49:17 +0000 UTChopefully it will be fixed later on hough
2019-09-05 14:49:07 +0000 UTCthats a bug Miguel its just a Glitch :)
2019-09-05 14:48:55 +0000 UTChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI0M7mieb0E
2019-09-05 14:45:41 +0000 UTCi ried to use the shaderpack that ws used with he ray tracing and i got a black void vision i couldn't see my specs: Nvidia GEFORCE GTX 1070 FTW EVGA 16gb ram core i5 8600 CPU @ 3.10 Ghz 1TB Hard drive
2019-09-05 14:43:35 +0000 UTCwill this run well with a gtx 1070 ? and how much does this cost ?
2019-09-05 14:41:13 +0000 UTCumm my end rods will emit light in hand put not when placed:/
2019-09-04 00:57:29 +0000 UTCLeL
2019-09-02 00:09:26 +0000 UTChmm
2019-08-30 15:46:27 +0000 UTCgold
Matthew
2019-08-30 12:25:19 +0000 UTCwhat level patron do we have to be to access this?
2019-08-30 11:28:08 +0000 UTCwhen can we get this free?
2019-08-29 13:21:56 +0000 UTCCan someone send me the system specs for having this shader before installing?
Geniis
2019-08-29 02:40:54 +0000 UTCI don't have the download link
2019-08-27 02:11:09 +0000 UTCcould emisive maps be enabled, have textures that make redstone, rails and other stuf "glow"(not light emiting, just ignore the sorounding light) when powered. And with the E8 that i tried they did not work properly and dident light up in the dark.
2019-08-25 20:05:22 +0000 UTChey um what is the least laggy version. thanks.
2019-08-25 03:14:41 +0000 UTCI have an rx 580 and when loading a world my mine craft crashes. The last thing in the log is "...[Shaders] : Reset model renderer. " and "... [Shaders] : Reset world renderer.". I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the crash but that's where it freezes. No errors anywhere though.
2019-08-24 07:43:54 +0000 UTCOnce you have all the bugs kinked out with E10, what's next? How much more tech needs to be put in until the project hits beta?
2019-08-23 23:53:33 +0000 UTC@Sonic Ether once you've streamlined the amd experience, do you intend on adding animations to the grass/trees etc like your vanilla version? i really love the vanilla version but want ray tracing on it too. Also I've noticed that unlike the your vanilla version you can't see the sky while under water.
2019-08-22 10:07:17 +0000 UTCcould be umsoea or ultimate immersion's textures not sure tho
Christopher
2019-08-22 09:07:25 +0000 UTCWhich resource pack(s) can i use in 1.8? My friends are playing on a multiplayer server that uses 1.8 minecraft
2019-08-22 07:14:34 +0000 UTCWhich resource pack is this in the screenshot?
m
2019-08-22 00:12:02 +0000 UTCWhat editions of Minecraft do these shaders work on? Do they work on windows 10? Because that is the main one I use. Thanks
2019-08-21 21:41:17 +0000 UTCIs there any possibility or will there come a future support of 1.12.2 to amd gpus
2019-08-21 18:29:57 +0000 UTCI have a RX 580 and if I try to load a world or change dimensions while in fullscreen the game freezes. Forgetting to exit full screen when going through a portal is a pain.
2019-08-20 12:58:43 +0000 UTCBedrock is nothing but a pale imitation of Java with worse mod support and microtransactions. No thank you.
Cyro
2019-08-19 19:56:44 +0000 UTCHello.(о´∀`о) I've been using SEUS for a long time, but there is one point I really care about. It means that the inside of the building gets wet if it rains when using a glass block on the roof. Is it possible to improve these( ´_ゝ`)?
2019-08-19 15:49:16 +0000 UTCminecraft is now partnering with nvidia to push rtx on win10 edition (-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCfuZSEFzIg)
2019-08-19 15:31:19 +0000 UTCWhere is link to this shaders?
2019-08-19 11:33:36 +0000 UTCThoughts on the RTX-minecraft announcement that nvidia just put on their youtube?
2019-08-19 07:25:39 +0000 UTCJo, du kannst die Shader hier auf der Seite downloaden (die PTGI Shader zumindest), die anderen auf der SEUS-Seite. Wichtig ist aber auch zum downloaden, dass du Gold Tier hast (-> 10$). Um sie hier von der Seite zu downloaden, musst du auf den entsprechenden Post gehen, am Ende des Posts (ganz unten) ist dann die Datei als .zip angehängt. Aktuell ist der PTGI E8 die neueste Version. Als Tipp nebenbei, die entsprechenden Posts mit den Download sind mit "[Download]" gekennzeichnet.
2019-08-18 17:20:30 +0000 UTCnote to dumb people: scroll down for download E8
mechaniking
2019-08-18 16:55:56 +0000 UTCwie kommt man an diese shader ran ? kann die nirgendwo downloaden BITTE UM HILFE
2019-08-18 16:21:44 +0000 UTCI've become a patron how do I download the shader?
2019-08-18 11:46:31 +0000 UTCI have the same problem.
NMLWright
2019-08-17 21:25:10 +0000 UTCYeah, the whole concept of SEUS PTGI is that it doesn't need the chip on the RTX cards. Everything besides water runs great on my GTX 970
2019-08-17 16:58:05 +0000 UTCI have GTX 1060 OC, will this work with a non-RTX card?
2019-08-17 14:04:58 +0000 UTCWhen is e9 releasing. Cant support after this month
Freud
2019-08-17 04:29:25 +0000 UTCYeah
2019-08-16 12:44:17 +0000 UTCHi
basel
2019-08-16 08:27:11 +0000 UTCwhat version of optifine works best with this shader pack
2019-08-16 06:13:03 +0000 UTCsame problem but he dont answere here?! Thats stinky we are supporting him and he dont answere here
FlashTutorDE
2019-08-14 20:07:54 +0000 UTCYou have to pay dumb fuck. Read the damn patron page
2019-08-14 18:54:20 +0000 UTCI noticed in E8 when it rains, the ground gets wet indoors even when the block is under another block or otherwise indoors.
NMLWright
2019-08-14 16:08:57 +0000 UTCThey aren’t meant to
Matthew
2019-08-14 14:58:46 +0000 UTCHey Bro im not sure if this is the right place to post it but when i visit the http://sonicether.com website it askes for my username and paaword i have seen someojne with this problem on reddit here is there post Hi there, I’ve been trying to install SEUS for Minecraft 1.14.4, but when I go to Sonic Ether’s site to download it, I’m met with a sign-in popup. How do I access Sonic Ether’s site?
2019-08-14 08:40:16 +0000 UTChopefully this gets released soon, I recently bought an rx 590 and can't even use seus renewed without it crashing.
Harrods
2019-08-14 01:28:31 +0000 UTCworks on amd graphic card?
2019-08-14 00:32:46 +0000 UTCAnd yes , the website isn't working
2019-08-13 15:07:47 +0000 UTCTo be honest , True that RT is a massive add to the game , and i'm very glad some one add this to Minecraft ! so thank u man for this . about RT in my opinion it kills fps but add visual beauty to it which is a clear thing we see using sonic into his mod . so keep making it more realistic and my dream is to see this mod so much realistic , especially on Building side ! damn i'm obsessed about this so much .
2019-08-13 15:05:47 +0000 UTCwhy do i need to log in to access your website?
2019-08-13 12:20:45 +0000 UTCwill slime transparency / waving plants be resolved (I know they're trifles compared to the big things you are working on)
2019-08-13 10:52:15 +0000 UTCMaybe if you decrease the render resolution to 0.7 or 0.5 in the shader settings and tweak some other things. Technically I think it should be compatible once AMD is supported.
Chahzou
2019-08-13 10:39:02 +0000 UTCHey Bro im not sure if this is the right place to post it but when i visit the http://sonicether.com website it askes for my username and paaword i have seen someojne with this problem on reddit here is there post Hi there, I’ve been trying to install SEUS for Minecraft 1.14.4, but when I go to Sonic Ether’s site to download it, I’m met with a sign-in popup. How do I access Sonic Ether’s site?
2019-08-13 08:14:01 +0000 UTCCan you ask the Optifine creater to optimize older version of minecraft like 1.12.2 since that is the new modding standard? I am getting an AMD GPU soon and don't want bad framerates. BTW PTGI 5, 6, and 7 don't work on 1.7.10 or 1.6.4
2019-08-13 06:24:41 +0000 UTCIs this possible to port back to 1.8.9? I frequently use 1.8.9 for creative builds.
NMLWright
2019-08-13 04:20:59 +0000 UTCSo is the developer of optifine planning on grandfathering these features for past version? Just because there arent any decent modpacks for the newer versions of minecraft.
2019-08-13 00:44:18 +0000 UTCok
2019-08-12 23:22:48 +0000 UTCDamn, the amount of work you've put into this is incredible; amazing work and kudos, my man.
Mr. Beedell, Roke Julian Lockhart
2019-08-12 19:47:48 +0000 UTCHi, I have the same problem as the guy above and I just signed up. Please help! : )
Tamlyn Robertson
2019-08-12 19:32:45 +0000 UTCHey Bro im not sure if this is the right place to post it but when i visit the http://sonicether.com website it askes for my username and paaword i have seen someojne with this problem on reddit here is there post Hi there, I’ve been trying to install SEUS for Minecraft 1.14.4, but when I go to Sonic Ether’s site to download it, I’m met with a sign-in popup. How do I access Sonic Ether’s site?
2019-08-12 09:28:38 +0000 UTCI just noticed, it also pops up an OpenGL error: 1282(Invalid operation)
KGB_Thanatos
2019-08-12 07:03:11 +0000 UTCI did, finally, get E8 running on my RX-570. My only issue is missing water and glass textures. When I load into a map, it comes up with 2 errors. [Shaders] Error: Invalid Program "composite", and, [Shaders] Error: Invalid Program "composite4"
KGB_Thanatos
2019-08-12 05:26:01 +0000 UTCWhen do you think this will come out?
2019-08-12 00:02:14 +0000 UTCcant wait to try this on my vega 56
2019-08-11 22:17:40 +0000 UTCThis is dev news not release
Matthew
2019-08-11 20:10:03 +0000 UTCi have no access to the website which supposedly has the download-links to the older shaders. how do i get there?
2019-08-11 17:31:05 +0000 UTCnot out yet
2019-08-10 14:37:10 +0000 UTCwill my vega 11 be able to run these shaders?
2019-08-10 14:05:35 +0000 UTCyeah where is the download?
2019-08-10 10:53:29 +0000 UTCwhere do we download it?
2019-08-10 09:50:12 +0000 UTCIm Very excited for the next update, ive wanted to play minecraft with these shaders but its so laggy with the rx 580
2019-08-10 02:05:13 +0000 UTCHey, I have an rx580 and it doesn't crash, the fps is okay, like 32 fps higher settings, but it is kinda glitched
2019-08-09 22:04:22 +0000 UTCIf you bring accurate tracing to custom models I seriously have no words...
Ultimate Immersion
2019-08-09 20:58:50 +0000 UTCSadly i cant lanuch your shader if i buy it FUCK WHY I HAVENT MONEY
basel
2019-08-09 19:34:17 +0000 UTCWhen he releases it. It's not done yet lol
EmeraldCrafts
2019-08-09 18:56:32 +0000 UTCHow's the performance on an RX580. I heard some people got previous vers working on AMD cards but I had no luck.
2019-08-09 11:57:54 +0000 UTCwhere can I download ?
2019-08-09 11:14:41 +0000 UTCWhich resourcepack is shown in the screenshot?
2019-08-09 09:56:09 +0000 UTCGlad you're working on AMD support even though I have an Nvidia card, it'll be worth it.
Chahzou
2019-08-09 07:48:57 +0000 UTCI know that you are doing a big work here with this new type of shader, but when do you think you've finished all the work? So that you can also release the free version
Alex2216
2019-08-09 07:27:27 +0000 UTC5700xt here, despite a couple of broken "features" of the shader on PTGI 8, Can't wait for version 9!
Gravestone
2019-08-09 05:23:22 +0000 UTCAwesome! Nice you got a 580 RX. Cuz thats the same card I have, this will be great!
Linkie
2019-08-09 02:05:04 +0000 UTCepic
2019-08-09 01:27:51 +0000 UTCYEEEY. It's nice to see you bought the same amd card then me, that way I know It will work fine on mine. I waited a long time for this :D
2019-08-09 00:59:18 +0000 UTCKeep up the great work
Drew9140
2019-08-09 00:45:40 +0000 UTCHey just curious, are you using a texture along with your shaders in the pic above
2019-08-09 00:31:12 +0000 UTCI get a composite error 2 and 4, when I enter the game, but some stuff works others do not https://plays.tv/video/5d4cbbc6e8ed00a4e5/vega-64-seus-ptgi-e8-test
2019-08-09 00:25:52 +0000 UTCHave you tried with the latest OptiFine? It now supports AMD for SEUS
Jorge López Tello
2019-08-09 00:14:26 +0000 UTCi have an RX 580 and i haven’t ever been able to get it running on PTGI, immediately crashes when trying to load the world, and of course no crash log.
2019-08-08 23:32:32 +0000 UTCYep, it just came out two days ago :)
Sonic Ether
2019-08-08 23:27:24 +0000 UTCGlad I dropped AMD cards awhile ago, they're cheaper but I kept running into issues with performance in a lot of games.
ichimo
2019-08-08 23:26:41 +0000 UTCKeep up the great work!
2019-08-08 23:24:15 +0000 UTCSo is the new Optifine version out? I looked the other day and couldn’t find it.
Robert Curtin
2019-08-08 23:23:58 +0000 UTC