Edited | Attack On Titan | 4x27

1. when all of humanity in the world = all the people inside the walls then yes that means they took an oath for saving humanity, there's a reason why everyone who joins the alliance to stop Eren end up being the people who fought against the titans outside the walls, unlike the jeagerists who were people who preferred to stay inside (including Flock who only joined the scouts after they started to show promising victories) 2. Sure at this point its not the best move for Paradis but that's because Eren and Zeke influenced many events to get to this point. No the world wasn't ready to annihilate Paradis during Willy's speech, many characters outright state that the declaration of war would have been useless without Eren and Paradis attacking to drive the point, also war/conquest ≠ genocide jeagerists always try to justify Eren's actions with the lie that the world was gonna do the same to Paradis when every thing points at Marley and the global alliance's goal being else. If Marley wanted genocide they could have easily done it when they first breached the walls, the only ones who claim to want to commit genocide and attempt at doing so are Eren and Zeke. 3. Paradis's issue is that they took too long to try to make contact with the world, plus as Kiyomi says so in the next episode the Azumabito didn't actually try their best at helping Paradis make contact with other nations, but worse of all is Eren NOT letting Paradis actually attempt anything. You say he waited till the very last moment to see a different path but we know that before he even set foot on the boat to Marley he had already confided with Flock and Historia on his intention to Rumble the whole world, that's before the Subject of Ymir summit, before the declaration of war (something he conspired and planned with Zeke btw) 4. there is no permanent solution to conflict, Eren naively thinking that by committing ONE big atrocity he could prevent all future atrocities is showing how short-sighted HE is

boba feat

An oversimplification which leaves out many of the key details. 1. Not a single cadet of the 104TH cadet took their oaths thinking or even knowing they want to save all of humanity in the world. They wanted to protect the people inside the walls as they believed that's all left of humanity. 2. It's just willful negligence to stop the Rumbling and letting Paradis die in this part of the story. The world already wanted Paradis gone and was ready to annihilate Paradis completely during the speech of Willy Tybur. Whether Eren attacked them or not, Paradis with it's entire population would have been wiped in next few months by Global force. And after what Eren did at Liberio, rest of the world wouldn't stop at nothing till they kill all population on Paradis. they would have tried as long as they were capable of doing so. Mikasa, Armin, Hange, Connie, Jean, they knew this too. They were not being selfless. They were being selfish because they wanted to save their sense of morality over the entire population of their homeland. They tried their best to figure out a solution to find peace with rest of the world and protect their homeland and they failed. Eren waited till the very last moment to see there could be a solution other than Rumbling. There is not a single 'good' character in this story. Each one of them has blood of innocent on their hand, and yes , each one of them has betrayed their friends including Eren. But Eren's end goal was to find a permanent solution to the problem unlike the rest of the squad who never really thought of the matter on such grand scale. They could never think beyond what they can see in front of them.

White Knight

Floch unknowingly was becoming the very thing he hates. Which is Marley. But he was right about rest of the world absolutely annihialting Paradis after what happened in Liberio. He loved his homeland and truly believed in his cause unless many antagonists which often lie to gain followers. The thing about AoT is that every side has a very convincing argument to stick to their side and Eren's solution despite being horrifying was the only path through which both Paradis and the remaining world could be at peace. In any other solution, the conflict continues after a short period.

White Knight

Did you not watch season 1-3? Because Scouts/ Jeagerists didn't even have access to Thunder spear till the second part of season 3 and they didn't have the advanced anti-human guns till season 4. Most importantly, till the end of season 3, most of them was completely clueless about the world outside their Island .They thought their enemy was just the mindless monsters called Titans. The truth of the world, Titan history, the racism and the knowledge that rest of the world would do anything and everything to wipe their population would obviously made them fight more fiercely as they were not only fighting for themselves but also for their people's freedom and right to leave.

White Knight

I fully agree, I personally disregard those scenes as part of how I view Mikasa. I chalk it up to Mappa clumsily undermining the themes in trying to make "badass" action scenes, and don't factor it into how I view her character.

Albertan Motorcyclist

I completely agree. Erwin’s speeches were always inspirational while Floch uses fear mongering tactics to push his nationalistic rhetoric which Erwin never did. Erwin let people think for themselves. Floch is Erwin’s antithesis.

Rae

Why just her tho?? They’ve all been doing this

Nat

y'know what triggers me, why couldn't the Jeagerists fight like this during S1-3, so many people wouldn't have to die early on in the seasons. smh

Mike Hunt

His narrative evolution was literally him being a bystander in the window and deciding to take up arms and act against the jaegerists to become one of the heroes who saved the world

Gabriel Mendez

The last two episodes are a masterpiece that needs to be savoured. I'm happy to wait, especially since I waited a long time for the last episodes to be released. So this wait will be nothing.

Jake Smith

Ong she hasn’t miss since be introduce, I think

Itzkingkongbait Nj

Gabi she don’t miss

Jake the Movie Geek

floch was gangster this ep

Redback

Floch was giving me Erwin vibes. In a way. His character had so much development. Love to see it.

Tony Garcia

media literacy rates really are falling off man..

dreg

A bystander?! He literally went out in a blaze of glory! Sure he's not a "special person" but he couldn't be further from a bystander after this episode.

Figgy

In season 1, Commander Pyxis says to Eren: "If a powerful external threat were to appear, humanity would cease its wars and unite." This episode shows that more than any other moment to this point in the show. Can't wait to watch the finale with you two.

Jake

Floch absolutely destroyed hange, that kick was clean. The way Floch went from a coward who would be hesitant to charge against the Beast titan to someone who would face an Ackerman and titan shifters without fear is insane. This was one of the best Floch moments and the animations sequence is amazing. Floch kept moving forward and fought until the end for the future of his people, all for his country. "I'll be the one to save Eldia!" - Floch Forster

Nika

i’m just been conflicted with her this whole season, regardless of the purpose behind this scene or how good it is, i want to express my thoughts on a character

Zain kb

That scene of Mikasa standing in the rain of blood is a homage to Armin standing in a rain of blood in the 2nd opening of AOT. It's a tragic scene where Mikasa has to blow up one of her old comrades, to scare the Yeagerists from fighting anymore (which is why we see them run away after the explosion).

skitalks

Shadis died like a Bystander as he said back in season 3

nikito1

Nearing the end: The episode

Isac christensen

Astute observation, they’re similar but different. People hate Flock for numerous reasons but they almost never put themselves in his shoes from the beginning of the characters introduction to now and try to understand him. Instead they judge him because of a preconceived notion about whats right and wrong. I never hated or necessarily liked him, I just admired his resolve and dedication to the cause, no matter of the ends justifying the means approach. I know he has indulged in his “grotesque” work more than other characters and thats mainly why some hate him.

Gin-liberio

It’s not about like, and stop making the argument “it wasn’t in the manga” like you made a point. Her killing her fellow scouts meant to show resolve and conviction. Sure the manga didn’t show it but, this scene is still as good or even better.

Gin-liberio

In S01E04, when Keith introduces all the cadets strenghs and weaknesses he says Connie is really good at sharp turn in ODM gear. When we see Connie fight in Season 3, inside the Crystal cave and in this episode, you can see him do Sharp angular turns extremely quickly, which makes it difficult for his "enemies" to avoid him. A very sweet detail. Floch needs to be praised, weather you love him, hate him or, like me, love to hate him. He feels that he is embodying Erwin's spirit and legacy and he tries his best to imitate him while fighting for what he believes. Great reaction and discussion as always ^^

Eric Dean Draven

got me sad when y'all said that at the end 😭 was here since season 1 and it has been fun to rewatch with you. where has the time went 😭

Hans

thats ok, it just means we start to get one piece mon/wed/fri right?

Iceman Radioactive formerly Joe (Moore)-An, a.k.a. No Meds Muscles Ripley, Stalwart Neelix Defender, currently adrift in space

TBH I didn’t like how mikasa killed her ppl this brutally in manga it wasn’t like this

Zain kb

Gabi strikes again!!!!!!!!!!! Theo Magath and Keith Shadis sacrifice at the end!! ...and the sad thing is no one knows Shadis was there :(

Phillip

mikasa<<<<<<

Hung Manh Hoang

Floch is a terrific motivator and a reason why a lot of people compare him to Erwin. The big big big big MASSIVE difference between the two is Erwin motived using hope and seeking answers for a better future. Floch is using fear and hatred to motivate the Jaegerists. Polar opposite while both being extremely effective.

NissanZaxima

I can't wait for you to finish this incredible story!! in your next anime poll I hope you can add fmab. I find that story incredible too

inspirit llama

The scene with Magath and Shadis on the ship is my pick for best storytelling moment in the show.

Jonathan Charles

Wow I’ve never pieced that together

Jake the Movie Geek

My head canon he stowed away on the train that was carrying the reinforcements

Jake the Movie Geek

Falco’s Jaw Titan is sick!

Jake the Movie Geek

You mean shadis? Also people are surprised because he was in shiganshina last time we saw him and now he’s here all of a sudden. It’s only a small surprise but a surprise nonetheless

Sean Carroll

Connie: "omg i cant believe ive had to kill someone who i regarded as friends, this is so traumatising and will change me as a person 😭😭" Mikasa: "ayo, fuck dem kids"

jake thomson

Those who say that his friend are betraying him for trying to stop the genocide. Dont forget those of the 104th squad ,that joined the scouts, did so during the second breach under erwin, 14-15 years old. They were more terrified than the cadets that refused erwin's invitation. They saw on their first day of graduation the brutal reality of titans. Every battle within s1-s3 happened within 4 months. Their ideal "saving humanity" is fully and wholly entrenched in their personality. It was a vow they took. Of course they will uphold it. Humans are inherently selfish? Yes, which allows for true seflessness. Its not like ants, where its fully programmed into them. Its a choice

baja

yes! I agree with you let's Acknowledge him.

Zarayut Ziri

I agree with you, Floch is like ours in all first 3 season! , so like him or not but just acknowledge him and respect his action too!

Zarayut Ziri

I don't think you even need to ask for that one lol, they'll have plenty to talk about

Mojito

King floch

Jimmy murillo

I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT 3 EPISODES IVE BEEN HERE SINCE EPISODE 5 CANT WAIT TO SEE YOUR REACTIONS TO THE UPCOMING “PEAK” ANIMATION AND STORY TELLING AND OFC VOICE ACTING

Josey

Why are people so surprised when Pixis showed up haha we see him in the coordinate when Eren announced messages 😂

Xanakone SPT

Floch is what we cheered for all these past 3 seasons, one of the MVPs if you understand his point of view, for sure, but now that we have more knowledge and perspective than him is hard to agree with all of his points

Costosou

Also props to Floch. Love him or hate him he was able to rally his troops against THE LEGENDARY HEROES OF SHIGANSHINA. These were people that the Jeagerists looked up to. These were their heroes who saved their world against The Warriors that essentially completely destroyed the entire Scout Regiment a few years back. Floch is the only living member (besides Levi) that remembers Erwin’s speech and from that day forward he has carried Erwin’s fighting spirit and charisma to rally his people and to “give their hearts” to protect their home like what Erwin said to Floch and his group of cadets before their suicide charge. These Jeagerists fought HARD against their own heroes, against their own friends, and against the 2 warriors (the female and armored titan) that brought the survey corps to the brink of complete annihilation. I’m not a huge fan of Floch but I can also see that he was an incredible leader to fight against such impossible odds while rallying his troops and never giving up.

CainetheLongshot

Floch is the chosen one

Auti O

A long time ago in season 2 after Reiner had saved Conny from the pure Titan that was coming through the door by pushing him out of the way. Afterwards Conny thanked Reiner for saving him while also mentioning that Annie had saved his life before as well. Annie saved Conny’s life in season 1 when Conny was one of the people to slice a titans nape in the resupply room. The cadets fired muskets to blind the titans while Conny and the others went for the kill. Conny and Sasha missed their titans and Annie saved Conny while Mikasa saved Sasha. Anyways Conny was telling Reiner in that tower that day that he would like to return the favor to both of them one day. Then YEARS later here he comes to save Reiner AND Annie from the thunderspears finally repaying his debt to them for saving his life. He finally gets to return the favor.

CainetheLongshot

Dawg are you good, serious question?

Gin-liberio

Shoutout to Floch. Whatever your opinion of him may be, he's certainly shown leadership, resolve, and ODM skills this episode. One of the MVPs

Ben

AOT lives free in everyones minds, whether they like it or not. It such a story that while watching other stories in other show, you will start giving example of AOT events/situations. Its crazy

PKS

It makes sense for the release of last two episode reactions to take longer. I would like your end of episode discussions to be proportionately longer though instead of just a couple of minutes.

Masaya Jimbo

The biggest dilemma of AoT is ranking what you like most about it. The ethics/dilemma? Music? Action? Animation? Plot? Characters? Execution? Voice acting? Incredible to witness a show that's 10/10 in all departments.

Ajinkya Athlye

Reginald

how i understand it is, this friday is ep 28, friday next week is part 1 and in 2 weeks it's part 2

Dorak

That scene with Shadis and Maggath is one of my fav from the whole series. The two men responsible for training both sides of this war, joining forces and sacrifing themselves to save humanity. Insanely good writing.

Paul Quigley

If Mikasa was real and she looked at me like that irl, I would fall in love and crap my pants at the same time.

JS

But what about episode 28 ?

Mesbah Mohamady

Figured you guys would need a bit longer for what is basically three episodes in 1, best to take that time. Been a lot of fun watching you two on the cusp of the end of peak fiction. ❤️

BoredTonberry