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Demon Slayer Ep 11

This character is the equivalent of 🍝with 💩on it

I legit wonder y tho? Does the manga have it? Did the dev team just have really inexperienced writers and low IQ as far as understanding audience-level patience or consistency with already established story characters? Wild choices. if this lasts we gonna 4th down and punt

Demon Slayer Ep 11

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The effect of far move slow, and close is fast. I believe is called parallax. EDIT: The he bird doesn't sound feminine. The sparrow sounds like a sparrow. The Crow sounds like a crow.

Paul Sterling

Apart from the sexist comments you make when refering to zenitsu (like calling him a p*ssy or asking about his tampon, like you believe that being a woman is inferior or weak) and other things like "chubby chim" when he obviously doesn't have one, I really enjoy your reacts.

Hugo Abilleira

wild

Armando Haze

Fun Fact: Zenitsu IS this annoying the in Manga (Tho he stops later on) and yet he won every single Popularity Poll in Japan from start to end of the manga. lol

Potatex

13:00 lmaooooo

Fiona

Oh no it’s him 🫠. Honestly idk why the team at UFOtable choose to adapt it like this and even make these scene so prolonged. Maybe to cut cost? Like I said in previous eps I don’t think the manga is a great piece of work but the adaptation is pretty good. Except for this part… But this archetype does seems to work to a degree in Japan as some audience like Zennitu.

P_ateric

Yeah not comparing them as characters just the VA. I'm just saying if he didn't like Zenitsu there is no way he is going to like Asta. Just my personal opinion.

Carson689

There are definitely animes such as Bocchi the Rock and Sound Euphonium that can be enjoyed by everyone but yeahh lots of animes in general should not be watched by kids with how much fanservice, mature themes, and messed up scenarios there are

andoryuguen

@dave Yea I'm sure parents in Japan "hey Johnny, this is 86. So cute! Next up is Cyberpunk, adorable" lol

DrumRollTony

I think it's difficult for people who didn't grow up in Japan (like most of the people here) to understand what is "normal" for kids to watch in Japan. This manga (and anime) is clearly geared towards elementary and middle school kids in Japan. I can see why people in the US would not approve or understand that this is geared towards kids. I'm not saying I agree that kids should watch it, but it is funny seeing people so confused about it haha...

Dave

I think that a cowardly character isn't inherently bad, but just berating the viewers ears with it incessantly is when it becomes a problem. Not every character has to the ultimate courageous hero, but also don't torture your audience when we got the message after the first 30 seconds with several more minutes of it. That being said besides a few episodes you will largely not have to suffer this and the highs and even the average content of the show I would say easily makes up for it. Oh also with Tanjiro introducing himself to the demon, you'll notice in most anime no matter how at odds two opponents are they will probably still introduce themselves because formal introductions are highly important in japanese culture.

Nick K

also the way Anime has been perceived by ppl in Japan changed over time as well, so it could be that the intended audiences are different in each times, so I could be wrong

Peacock

I’m 22 now but it’s really similar in a sense that I watched what everyone watched as a kid. Like anime like dragon ball and ONE PIECE was aired on Sunday mornings so I naturally watched it bc my friends in elementary school would talk about it in school. a lot of the anime ur watching rn were considered more niche and for otakus (anime nerds) back then (around 2010) except for more main stream ones like ONE PIECE, dragon ball etc. It's only recently that non-mainstream anime has become popular across different age groups even in Japan. Nowadays, no one would think much of you watching anime in Japan, but back when I was in high school, watching it would label you as an otaku. So basically anime was considered something for kids and otakus back then, so we would know regular adults wouldn’t watch them.

Peacock

@peacock That makes it more interesting to me that you grew up there. How do you assess what age range watches what? For me, growing up in the states, when I was a kid I had no clue what the rest of the nation was watching as far as age groups. Just knew what my friends were watching. I had no way to measure if adults around the city, state, surrounding states, were watching the same thing. I'm sure there are demographics out now with devices tracking everything. I have demographics on my yt channel so I would assume any platform that has shows has the same information. Would be interesting to see.

DrumRollTony

Im referring to upper elementary-young teens for kids, but tbh anime is generally for those age group in Japan (or at least they’re the ones who watched until it became popular among more people recently), I’d say there’s different standards compared to western culture standards. But I also said in general bc I know some animes are for more older age groups as someone mentioned. I literally grew up in Japan so that’s my perspective

Peacock

False

makotheQ60

Zenitsu can be pretty annoying in Season 1 but he has cool moments and is way better throughout the rest of the show after this season.

Alejandro Pupo

I forgot how fucking annoying Zenitsu was, feel like ripping off my own ears all over again.

Jarrod Davies

Would not blame you if you dropped the show for this character but like others said, Zenitsu is a common archetype in shounen and battle focused anime (dunno why just is) You almost always have the coward/perverted 'slapstick' character in these anime and it is the bane of a lot of anime fans. I don't know how Japanese audiences feel about it but I know Western audiences tend to hate it a LOT. I'm someone who does play a bit of devils advocate here so let me give some benefit of doubt to the author, the characterization while extremely exaggerated does have a place in the world setting. Why he gets so much screentime to yell and howl and be a nuisance I don't know. I don't think its worth it. But when you consider the dangers of demon slaying (especially with more context later) 99% of people could not stand up to an average demon. Zenitsu briefly mentioned in an offhand comment that implies he did not ask to be here, or be doing this. He lacks internal motivation to be a demon slayer where Tanjiro does. I guess this is how he 'foils' Tanjiro in a narrative sense. Again, narratively I can see why he exists but in how his character is executed its almost universal that people hate him, he is truly up there with annoying anime characters and sadly yes they are quite common. If it is any consolation his character does get more mature later...but it is much later. Would not blame you if you felt the need to drop the show tbh most of us are probably just so desensitized to his 'type' that we push through it for everything else the show offered.

Yuyu

Well good news at least. Boar dude is actually pretty cool

SimplySora

Shounen/Shoujo is made for "kids" mostly in the teen demographic, anime is a lot more than just those two things and even a pretty high number of the shows tony is currently watching/has watched is absolutely in no way made for kids/early teens. Teens may like some of the shows I'm including in that list but the shows were absolutely not made for them with Vinland Saga and Cyberpunk Edgerunners being the two probably biggest examples of this. This ain't even including the literal hundreds of shows out there that are even more clear examples of not made for kids, hell like half the OVA's from the 80's and early 90's alone are the sort of things I'd absolutely not be comfortable showing to anyone under 18 and it's extremely clear the creators were not aiming for their views either.

Levi Blair

Fuck Zenitsu, all my homies hate Zenitsu. He's most annoying in this season, and gets better the rest

MGC

Yes Berserk is a kid friendly show

kinetic98

Zenitsu can be pretty annoying but I think you kinda get used to him eventually

Sam

Maybe because I've been watching anime for over a decade I'm just desensitized to the more annoying and cringy aspects and stereotypes of it all. I personally find Zenitsu kind of funny but totally get why his introduction ends up being one of the biggest walls that hold people back from enjoying the show. And like most other people have said, he does get less annoying but really marginally so.

peeps

everyone hates zenitsu brotha trust me

zeldoor

Rewatching this, yeah this was the most horrible introduction to Zenitsu. But in a way I'm glad they started with the worst of him and this didn't happen later, but on the other hand I understand the whiplash a new watcher would feel to this type of character. I hope you can survive next episode, then it's much more bearable from then on. I apologize you have to go through this, but I hope the rest this show has to offer can redeem the show for you 😭

Arsenic805

Yeah nobody likes Zenitsu. His character archetype can be pretty common in battle Shonen but Zenitsu is easily one of the worst examples. Consistently annoying, a subpar character arc and way too much screen time. It is true he gets more tolerable as the show goes on but no where near good enough for me not to hate his guts 24/7.

AussieBoy

By all scenes do you mean his fight scenes included? Or just his regular dialogue scenes

Arsenic805

What is geared towards kids in Japan probably would not be acceptable in most Western cultures haha... Kimetsu no yaiba was on shounen jannpu, a weekly syndicate aimed towards kids. Blood, guts, gore... that's pretty common for kids to watch in japan. I had an interesting time growing up in the US, while watching shows my grandparents would send over from Japan. Oh what different things my American friends watched haha...

Dave

Honestly only in battle shounen

JoeyGuy7

you better get used to it or switch to smth else

Jhon 1479

This is the diverging point in the show where the tonal center shifts depending on who's on the screen currently, from here on it's gonna be a lot more "slapstick" moments comparable to the ones seen in this episode. It's a fantastically drawn and presented show but the drawbacks are quite severe, wouldn't hold it against you if you drop it from here.

LewdProxy

Are any of you parents? Are you being extra liberal on the usage of the word "kids". I can't imagine ever giving a green light on anime for actual kids. Young teens maybe. You have skillset issues if you are parent letting your young children watch some of this shit.

DrumRollTony

Saying "anime is created for kids in general" is such a narrow minded view of the medium and makes me think you've only watched actual anime for kids before. Berserk, Perfect Blue, Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Vinland Saga, Made in Abyss. No kids should be watching these shows, and probably shouldn't watch Demon Slayer either considering the amount of blood and killing.

Xoulium

It depends. I would say majority of anime made for kids. But I would like to look at someone who'd say that, for example, Evangelion is for kids, lmao.

d_swordfish

Absolutely wrong to say all anime is made for the same demographic. Shounen anime is made for teen males even then thats not “kids”.

Trowa

Straight up false. If you've seen the setting for season 2, you know for damn sure this wasn't created for kids

Belac

I mean anime is created for kids in general so wouldn’t say it’s written for the wrong audience

Peacock

2nd most popular anime today how much more could it do?? Zenitzu didn't kill it's popularity at all

makotheQ60

would have become bigger show without zenitsu thats for sure, even in my personal group i know 4 guys who dropped because of this episode

Tauren Rogue

And so, we have arrived at the best character in the show 🐗

TheGoblerTrainsMovinIn

I really don’t think they’re worth sitting through, unless you for some reason like characters like him from the get go. To each their own

Chelly

Lol what. I didn't have that information and made a very normal and easy assessment of how dog shit annoying he sounds. Just based on my ears. Nothing to do with if other folks opinion on him

DrumRollTony

Would you believe me if I told you they ran a popularity poll in Japan and this character won the most popular character in the entire show? I think it's just the westerners that don't like him because the Japanese love him lol

makotheQ60

I will warn you now. There are a lot of cry babies in anime. Luckily you haven't seen many of them. (I usually drop the animes that have the cry baby as the mc) But everyone that has watched anime as a kid to an adult will tell you that they are made to show how great the character development is. But yeah, if you are starting anime later in life and aren't growing with them, they are annoying AF.

Shawtty

Man, Zenitsu is music to my ears compared to Asta, lmao. Asta is just.. on another level.

Baka

I wouldn't say it's common but it's not uncommon either. I guess it's cultural but characters like him are supposed to be hard to digest. It's like a new type of music artist that breaks too many boundaries for shock value but attempts to convince you it's legit. I argue that Demon Slayer fails at this. I think he should be removed from the show but few people do like him. If you plan to watch the new One Piece remake in 2025 they also have a character like this but they made it work and a lot of people love him. The creator of Demon slayer probably got inspired by it.

Fuji Nami

Yeah he sucks through and through. Even his character arc is shit

Avalon

My way to deal with Zenitsu throughout the seasons were to just lower my volume, often to 0, when he was "talking". I honestly couldn't have watched it had I not done that... I despise him and this type of character cause it adds nothing good to the series.

Xoulium

First of all, if Zenitsu was unwatchable then Demon Slayer wouldnt have become one of the most popular anime of all time. Then you compare side character that really appears for the first time in 11th episode to the main character who appears in every single fucking episode and never shuts up (he does get better later on but fuck me Asta is way too much for the amount of the screen time he has, especially in first 20 episodes).

Sebastian Stróż

noones comparing them as a characters but as how insufferable their VAs are. majority of people dropped black clover on episode 1 when they heard astas voice

Tauren Rogue

No. Whatever this character had cookin was not worth suffering Zenitsu over. Just not my cup of anime and i'm typically forgiving of a shounen series having that one unsufferable character.

Trowa

no need to make him unwatchable tho. you can make an annoying character without it being in the absolute max of being insufferable. i hate this argument since when black clover game out, literally 99% of the comments were negative to atsu and it became the reason the show didnt become big. good premise cool story but the main chars VA was too much for everyone

Tauren Rogue

Zenitsu back story cool af😭😭😭

CK C

Yeh, this episode and the next one are his worst. If Tony can get through these 2, he can get through the rest

Arsenic805

You missed some incredible scenes then!

makotheQ60

Zenitsu was created to be a really annoying character at the beginning. It' s clear looking at the Tanjiro's expression. Zenitsu himself knows that he is unpleasant because of his behavior and he hates himself for it, over the course of the next episodes and seasons he evolves and I personally really appreciate him ( especially for something that he does in season 2, no spoiler)

Springer

Favorite character of the show. Zenitsu.

CK C

He is written to be the annoying for sure. Sadly the VA tries his absolute best to fuck our heads, with his voice. The character is ass for many fans, but to be honest he still has his moments so he is not a 0/10.

Elite968

Oh I see well let’s hope so. I don’t remember much either but I don’t want him to drop the show cuz of it.

Parampreet Singh

nahhh, he has way less screen time in this ''retarded state'' as the show goes on. this episode had the most of this bs if i remember correctly

Meru Tenchin

Don’t really wanna get off topic but people are crazy if they think they can compare Zenitsu and Asta as characters. It doesn’t make sense to me.

Sarai

yeah i was going to comment on how bad astas VA is but then didnt. i remember how much hate black clover got when it first aired (first anime i dropped before the 1st episode ended). like 99% of the comments on the ep 1 was how shit the VA was and id imagine most of them dropped the show which is why the show isnt very popular now

Tauren Rogue

Right you are. I was amazed.

Sarai

Yeah, I’ve noticed they take it down a notch in S2 moving forward.

Sarai

😅😅😅

DrumRollTony

10/10 thumbnail creativity 😝, and keep in mind “patience you must learn”, there are great things in exchange for this annoyance lol

Meru Tenchin

I skipped all scenes with Zenistu 😂 the scenes without him are still good or even really good, at least until the end of season 2 (I never felt like continuing after that, maybe he gets better but that’s way too long for me to give a character like this the time of day lol)

Chelly

He’s around for a long time but they do tone him back a lot more after the first season. He has some very cool moments mixed in as well but he is the wall of entry to this show if I’m being honest. All I will say is if you don’t like his character don’t even bother watching black clover

Carson689

Dropped to early gets epic around 17

makotheQ60

lmao i forgot how much i hate zenitsu. worst type of character there can be is a guy who constantly cries and yells for no reason

Tauren Rogue

I stopped watching when Zenitsu came in. I was kinda feeling the show (awesome animation aside, i was like eh on the series) but he took me right the hell out of it.

Trowa

you might like zenitsu a bit more next ep…

dino

Its a lot less annoying in the manga since you can set his "tone" yourself. He does become a decent character

Nusutto

Honestly think it might have been the manga writer’s intention to make him this annoying to make the other “special” moments he has stand out more. 😅 It’s sad it has to be this way because those moments are awesome and well animated.

Sarai

damn never thought of it like that. Makes me appreciate Stark alot

elijah lew

Lmao I KNEW Tony would hate zenitu's guts

Szayel H

Gotta endure it till last episode of s4. Good luck

Parampreet Singh

Lmao thumbnail is so funny

DrumRollTony

I think Zenitsu is the equivalent to the crow, tho he will appear more frequent. He's gonna continue having moments like this but there's gonna be more good in between those moments that I hope keeps you around. I will say he does get better over time. You'll see what we mean soon enough but hang in there 😭 season 1 is the worst it gets

Arsenic805

Hold your horses, man, and prepare yourself for another crazy character comming soon. This anime just "speeding up". Nice thumbnail, btw

d_swordfish

"Listen up, i will die soon" "Cool" lmaoo I always loved him from the first episode idk why he's so funny to me but I understand why everybody hates him. But dw he's not always like that.. i mean most of the time he is but not always

Diego Castagnetti

Don’t worry Tony best character is soon to come to somewhat save you from this mess. He does have a few moments but they’re just that very few

Jack Allen

A lot of people like to compare this as bad writing for a “nervous or coward” character. Often compared to the great writing of Stark from Frieren as a well written coward character

kail santini

This character is actually one of the main drawbacks to this anime for most people. I will say he does get “slightly” better over the first couple seasons, but he finally comes around in the newest season. It’s an unfortunate character design.

kail santini

Zenitsu lasts. The good alternates with the Zenitsu, he'll always be in the show and have these moments. That being said the animation and music continue to be amazing throughout

Chris Johnson

Despite it being a show where people get beheaded like every episode it's also a kids show lol, thats why hes there. Kind of the weird thing about a lot of this genre

JoeyGuy7


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