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901 - VI-Day feat. Mohammad Alsaafin (1/20/25)

Journalist Mohammad Alsaafin returns to the show to discuss the temporary ceasefire & hostage exchange deal reached in Gaza. We discuss why and how this came about during the Biden-Trump transition, what the actual terms of the deal are, how it leaves the political situation in Israel, Palestine and the rest of the region, and the total effects of 15 months of war. Plus, what was actually in the gift bags given by Hamas to the freed Israeli hostages.

If you’re looking for ways to help, this is from Mohammad: More importantly, this is a good place people can donate to. This started out as a small soup kitchen set up by the family of a friend after their home was destroyed and his brother killed. Over the past year they've expanded to several soup kitchens, water trucks, small clinics and a couple of classrooms. The other brother who was running it was killed on his way to deliver supplies to Kamal Adwan hospital last month. They've done so much good work in helping people stay especially in northern Gaza:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/Hot-meals-in-gaza-daily?viewupdates=1&rcid=r01-173283450269-b9a1b078addc11ef

901 - VI-Day feat. Mohammad Alsaafin (1/20/25)
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Comments

But I was told that Trump did what Biden couldn't, I'm so confused....

Dang

Hey this aged super well

Dang

More dead in Gaza two months later. No justice or reason to be found at this time.

Michael Olaf

Haha, ‘M’. You really outed yourself with your comment about: … commenter who hasn’t been heard from in months. So, how would you know that? 😂

Jwood

Quite a few radlibs lurking in the comment section on this one. Anyone who’s convinced themselves that Dems staying in power would have been ‘harm reduction’ has managed to convince themself that you can have harm reduction when it’s genocide v genocide. That’s a breathtakingly stupid position. Especially when you acknowledge that liberalism is directly responsible for MAGA becoming what it has become today.

Jwood

To be honest I was actually quite pleased with that one. Like who do these people think they're fighting for? So many willing to sell the rest of humanity out to the insect overlords.

K H

It's literally already better and resulted in less killing in Gaza. They have started to transition more to the West Bank as was already happening the last 5 months or and as was predicted by anyone with a brain. Trump is literally demonstrably as bad or slightly BETTER than Biden. What are you guys even trying to salvage? She lost. She sucked. You threw your vote away. That's it.

K H

I don't think he thinks it's gonna hold for good and Palestinians, especially the ones involved in negotiations are very, very cognizant of the fact Israel intends to break the ceasefire at the end of stage 1 and already has their planned excuse to do jt. It doesn't change that a temporary pause that allows a huge influx of aid, food, medical resources, a cessation (really only a reduction, but you know what I mean) of the constant slaughter is good and better than just Biden/Harris doing the same cosigned expansionist project without even that. Trump doesn't give a fuck about Israel or Palestine, he just wants his good PR as "peacemaker" and to not have the appearance of total international unrest. The UN ambassador is a meaningless job in this scenario, I'm not sure why that would be a huge concern after watching the last 1.5 yrs of Biden UN antics. And it's unclear what exactly will happen because Trump is evil and also always has extreme rhetoric but also simultaneously brought on a bunch of MENA doves to head up policy there. We know what the Dems plan was, we assume Trump is offering the same but there's a 2% curveball chance he does something unexpected due to his unpredictability, and right now less Palestinians are being pulverized as a direct result of his pressure which you do not "have to hand to him" but it is kind of shitlib partisan hackery to not even wait and critically and honestly compare the actual actions and outcomes outside of rhetoric vs just insisting he must be worse on this because vibes. Honestly, I would've said the same in 2020 but in the end, Biden actually was worse for Palestinians than Trump 1.0 (there are many, many other subjects he was not the lesser evil of the 2 on however, obviously.)

BK

They're desperate to rehabilitate their smug non-voting for Harris. Not to say that she wasn't a disaster for Palestine as well. But imagining Trump was as bad and maybe better was ludicrous, on top of everything else he does.

Raphael Wakefield

Without the full-time reasoned influence of Matt and Amber, these guys have gone completely delusional

M

is there a source for what Mohammad says at ~40 mins about the US and Israel being worried that foreign media would be shocked at the extent of what Israel had done back in November 2023? i’m not doubting him, would just love to read more on that

fisher ilijasic

Absolutely embarrassing and braindead take to think this fake ceasefire would hold up. You clowns tripped over yourselves to say I told you so. Only a complete imbecile would think Trump isnt going to escalate the genocide

Clear Minded

Guys, y’all coulda dropped a, I dunno, “don’t give Trump too much credit yet” now he wants to “clean out Gaza.” Beautiful real estate! And once the hostages are back, cmon guys. I know y’all excited for the ceasefire, but cmon, be a little more forward thinking.

Sisyphus

All their bullshit is aging so well already: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/26/trump-resumes-sending-2000-pound-bombs-to-israel-undoing-biden-pause

M

terrorist shitstain

a chuds life

I’m sure dick riding Donald Trump for this long lasting for ever peace will not backfire and I won’t be listening to you morons bitching again

🐷

shout out to Seamus fr bc only the “reopen the Hebrew schools” line loosened the knot in my stomach for a sec

Shivvy

Joe Biden was going to oppose zionist expansion into West Bank as a zionist? It was already being discussed that West Bank would be next after Gaza. No one thought Trump was going to initiate Palestinian liberation. Democrats could not be allowed to win while having 0 moral appeal.

K H

Literally no different from Biden. Which is the general sentiment.

K H

and yet i find it deeply endearing along with the elocution among all chapo members.

moldava ken jennings

mf hasn't annunciated since 2018

buttface

Holding two thoughts at once without crediting fascists

Dang

then maybe the computer made it sound like he had a large werthers in his mouth for a few minutes.

moldava ken jennings

IDF is already back to sniping children

buttface

I think he has a speech impediment. That's how he always sounds.

buttface

This one soured already

buttface

Tbh the historical homeland of Christianity stretches from Palestine all the way across the Mediterranean

Trey

I don't believe the libs did shit either, fuck both red and blue. Red and black for life.

Grey

Yeah I'm not a lib so I'm not gonna dose up on hopium here. I'm keeping my bags packed and mags stacked.

Grey

Stand by and trust the plan. Trump will be in Guantanamo by the 4th of July!

Clammy_Damp

Y'all should check this out. Surprised this didn't get more attention ny times reporter sympathetic to west bank settlers hoping Trump lets them clear out Palestinians because all they want is peace. It's laying groundwork: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/middleeast/west-bank-settlers-trump.html

jbwhat

oh hell yeah, the libs are back in action baby. we love it, don't we folks?

George P

Grey

💯

claude

I didn’t get the triumph vibe in this episode. I mean, yeah the prisoner exchange is good for the Palestinians but only against the backdrop of losing almost everything. And if the war starts in another few days or weeks you know it’s just back to square one.

Evan Crompton

One of the worst israeli depravity fantasies I saw was people repeatedly throughout, and especially on the day of ceasefire announcement, talking almost excitedly about how they expected all the women hostages to come back pregnant. That's some deviantart level fetish stuff built into their politics.

dog on the roof

Honestly this was so heartbreaking I don’t know what to be anymore

Iwilldoitagain

why does will have a lozenge in his mouth? this seemed like a professional podcast.

moldava ken jennings

This is what I pay the money for

Hardcore Virgin

Also I keep going back to the idea that while Biden is an ideological Zionist, Trump is just a pragmatic piece of shit. I think a real sign of the Biden imperium versus the Trump Reich is that Bidens unconditional support for Israel is a deeply ideological one while Trump's is-- at the end of the day-- about free beachfront real estate in Gaza. He says as much, constantly talking about how Gaza has "beautiful beachs" that would need to be rebuilt. Both sides will fundamentally support Israel's eventual annexation of Gaza, and Trump is shackled to genocidal conservative Zionists. But if we're looking at the two as individuals, Biden thinks Israel has the historical right to exterminate Palestinians on some warped sense of principle. Trump wants to do it so Jared Kushner can build shitty condos in Rimal for American Jewish retirees. I don't know which is worse, so draw your own conclusions there.

Agent Grange

I think it's pretty irrefutable that Netanyahu and Trump conspired to delay a hostage deal until after the election in a Kissinger-style move. Netanyahu initially refusing to meet or attempting to further delay a deal doesnt immediately conflict with that, if anything I think maybe Netanyahu just got so used to being able to completely dog walk Biden and assert his own terms that he forgot he was a vassal state. It's like he thought "oh we've been able to do whatever we want for four years why should I just follow exactly what a rube like Trump tells me to now? I'll just try to delay this slightly on principle to remind the Americans we do whatever we want" then got immediately slapped down for it. Now, liberals have been avoiding even mentioning this possibility because it would require recognizing that Israel was purposefully stalling a ceasefire to extend a genocide and for Trump's political gain. But even if they did and attempted to justify Biden's completely failure and inaction by saying "See! See! Biden TRIED to reach a ceasefire and Trump was sabotaging him!" that's completely undone by Brandon IMMEDIATELY trying to paint this as a joint project between the Biden administration and Trump. Much less the fact that if Trump was able to slap down Netanyahu further delaying things so easily, and they knew Netanyahu was delaying things so Trump could win the election, what does that say about Biden? That he knew Netanyahu was undermining his authority to influence our election, and he just *let* Netanyahu shit in his face without asserting any authority? Whether it's that or Biden just earnestly hoping to indefinitely extend the war, there's just no situation where the Democrats come out of this without looking like absolute cravens with zero moral high ground.

Agent Grange

See also: "Netanyahu said he got assurances from Trump that if the negotiations over the second phase of the hostage and ceasefire deal fail, the U.S. will support renewed Israeli military action against Hamas in Gaza." HMMM wonder how this is gonna play out. Honestly if Phase one is complete before something happens to derail it I'd be shocked

Degrassi Knoll

watch numbers SKYROCKET now that Marxist DEI woke mob + trans ppl are kicked out. I'm perfectly willing to get my legs blown off for 'Merca - but better not be some gaywad telling me to do it

Degrassi Knoll

That bit about the academic historians association is insane.

Beej

There’s also this: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/trumps-un-ambassador-pick-says-israel-has-biblical-right-to-west-bank Call me a “shit-lib.” Whatever 🤷🏾‍♂️

TatsuMaki

About that: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/trumps-un-ambassador-pick-says-israel-has-biblical-right-to-west-bank

TatsuMaki

Wildly optimistic appraisal of Trump’s relationship with the Israel-Hamas war given that he has been in his current term for TWO DAYS. This episode will not age well. UPDATE 1/24/25: Indeed, the episode that aired three days ago has already aged like raw milk left on the radiator. The Trump ceasefire lauded as the Art of the Deal on this ep was broken less than 48 hours after it was confirmed. UPDATE 1/26/2024: Trump, the guy the Chapo boys and Mohammad Alsaafin thought represented a solid choice for the besieged, starving people of Gaza over Harris, told reporters on Air Force One, “You’re talking about probably a million and a half people [in Gaza] and we just clean out that whole thing…. Something has to happen, but it’s literally a demolition site right now.” Whatcha got, Dearborn?

Patrick Allen

you are not allowed to create any friction for the parasocially bonded chapo fan's completely smooth brain experience

buttface

Who is going to form the invasion force? College not sufficiently valuable and recruiting down. Who is going to join when people are getting actively incinerated? Basically they are going to have to fully rebuild Isis and supplement with Colombians.

K H

Again, you’re creating hypotheticals and yelling at us how those hypotheticals are worse than what Biden Harris *have actually already done* Maybe some, or even all, of what you’re predicting comes to pass. Maybe it doesn’t. But isn’t debatable what Biden and Harris already did, in real life. You people were all screaming about how much worse things for Gaza would immediately get under Trump and so far all we got is a ceasefire (however tenuous) so idk maybe shut the fuck up and think on that

Roland Thompson

Goddamn your comments section is full of the same shitlibs you guys are always making fun of

Roland Thompson

Nah bitch I’ma chop your head off either way

Roland Thompson

Oh and what “nuance” is lacking

Roland Thompson

fuck off

Katie

Israel is the most depraved country in the world. What kind of country would want a whole population of people to languish and die in a concentration camp right next to it. https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07TELAVIV1733_a.html

Noah Mingus

Seems flimsy as an explanation at best, but wtf do I know

Dang

They're not exactly good at nuance eh

Dang

1) didn't vote for Biden 2) didn't defend him at all during this whole thread. 3) never said the ceasefire was bad You're still a sloberring lunatic who can't help but credit a fucking fascist

Dang

Talking about meaningless sanctions as a rhetorical device to avoid acknowledging voting for Biden was morally bankrupt in addition to politically meaningless makes you look like a dipshit scold. Sieg hail is food being dumped out every fucking day. Sieg hail is Palestinian doctors having their hands broken and dissappeared and detainees raped to death. You think Biden was better because he wasn't ACTIVELY siege hailing when every fucking day he was giving away everybit of historical legitimacy built by Democrats so Israel could commit genocide? Yeaaaaa you guys thought it would be better but look your ceasefire comes with Elon Musk saluting Hitler. Ummm cringe much? Glad the people of Gaza will be getting food and water. It's unfortunate West Bank believed they were not next irrespective of what happened and chose the wait and see approach.

K H

I don't know about iran, apparently all the iran hawks got purged from the current admin so if he plans to invade iran I dont know who he plans to do it with if all those guys are gone.

Doug Cartel

Meanwhile Israeli goon troops were shooting artillery at horses.

K H

Damn. Gimme those free land and weapons sanctions. If settlers are getting sanctioned like that who needs aid?

K H

Typical lib-brained take

Doug Cartel

They never show it.

K H

It will be interesting to see what happens when the last prisoner is released back to Israel.

K H

Status quo is brutal.

K H

Trying to imagine what it’s like to have joined patreon just this month but somehow know who sparky is and when he last reared his goofy head 🤔

Chris Rose

Man, you guys truly have the most insufferable fans.

A.

Literally several executive orders that just came thru the pipeline are your first clue: remove restrictions on 2k lbs bombs, remove sanctions on West Bank settlers etc Biden gave them a lot - too much, clearly - but not everything they wanted!

Dang

Lmfao

Ardy Rezv

Why? Why would they want Trump to win instead of Biden and Harris??? The Democrats have been giving them everything they wanted and more.

Ardy Rezv

Were you one of the deranged liberals who was looking forward to Gaza getting worse under Trump lmfao?

Ardy Rezv

How MAGA pilled are you? Do you honestly think a real estate guy working on behalf of a regime even more friendly toward Bibi just parachuted in and magically engineered an impossibly complex ceasefire between obstinate dug-in forces, or do you think this was the ceasefire that had been pushed for over a year that Bibi decided to finally (temporarily) accept as a wet kiss to Trump as he came in? As for the sanctions on settlers, what do you think is better: A handful of isolated sanctions or removing all sanctions entirely as well as the prospect of any more being implemented?

M

The whole episode they just pretend like Israel has not got basically everything they could ever have wanted. Iran is most likely on the chopping block in the next year or two. Syria is under American control. You got alot riding on the houthis, trump, and some college kids on the east coast. Because that is now the axis of resistance. They will just build a bigger wall around gaza.

William Vetter

Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, no.

TatsuMaki

Let them draw him!

ploob

Adam's gay cousin, perhaps? We see you, Bugaboo 🪲

Schwartz666

Mortifyingly true... 😓

Schwartz666

Pft... come on man. This is par for the course. Your fix is coming Thu/Fri-ish. ✌️😁

Schwartz666

Compare Hitler's Obersalzberg speech in 1939 with the rhetoric coming from some of the Israeli leadership over the past year. The Hitler Obersalzberg speech is where he made the infamous comment about the Armenian genocide "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" e.g. relevant context here is that German military officers, including some of Hitler's advisors were active witnesses to the Armenian genocide in WWI and applied "lessons learned" to their enactment of the Holocaust. This is something that I have thought about over the past year with respect to the Biden administration's active support for Israel's mass murder campaign. So much of the Israeli wager of a "successful outcome" is predicated on the idea of the world forgetting and just moving on and the idea that there is no such thing as Palestine or the Palestinians. It doesn't take a genius to see what the consequences of this kind of forgetting mean for future generations. This acceptance of war of annhilation as somehow normal or acceptable in any instance transforms the "lessons of the Holocaust" into a complete absurdity. This is one of the reasons that international law and legal accountability for perpetrators -- including Biden administration officials -- is absolutely critical.

J P 3

There are obvious reasons to be skeptical of Trump's intentions and goodwill, but the fact remains that a real estate guy with a mandate from Trump (Witkoff) was able to achieve a ceasefire in Gaza that has resulted in a withdrawal of Israeli troops, a reduction of overflights and bombing, and a flood of humanitarian aid for people who desperately need help. The Biden settler sanctions were a largely symbolic measure impacting a few dozen Israelis.

J P 3

Wtf are you talking about JP, I’m sorry I made a comment about how I thought a super late podcast posting would be about the event that happened on the same day…what an absurd concept!

Kollie123

You just come off like a useless scold. Go yell at Matt Damon for not tweeting about January 6th or whatever

J.P. McD.

I had the exact same series of thoughts and feelings. The mental image of the skeletons that will never be identified… and all that home, just gone. Ugh my heart breaks for them.

Emily Richardson

Not sure, but that beautiful instrument is called an oud. A fretless lute found in the Middle East, North Africa, all around the Mediterranean really. Check out Yair Dalal and Hamza al din

Boaz Corey

Trying to imagine what it’s like to be the kind of person who remembers and refers to some other anonymous commenter who hasn’t been heard from months

M

No.

justDave

Has anybody got a link to the story of Trump’s real estate negotiator guy?

Stolzie

Disappointing episode. As it turns out, you don't have to hand it to Trump. You'd be a fucking idiot if you thought he was geniune or that even the first phase of the cease fire was going to actually last.

Slugbaby

mohamed sounds like a great guy! can we draw this one without getting our heads chopped off?

a bugs life

I think he was more so saying Biden and the A team and your horrible democrats said trump would be much worse. Not that trump is actually better. I think everyone knows that’s a risky call and they might have just been laughing about the fact that it’s day one and there’s a cease-fire.

Zeebes

A ceasefire back into slow genocide.

Khemith

Of course its good to have a ceasefire. He thinks the ceasefire will hold. I think Israel will happily kill a lot of hostages to exterminate Palestinians, or exterminate them once the hostages are released. I don't think they will allow Hamas to declare victory here. So yes, I think he's being overoptimistic.

Sai

Really, what the fuck is wrong with you. Us Arabs don't give a single solitary fuck about your stupid partisan hackery. The Biden "settler sanctions" were meaningless PR concessions. Biden and Trump are both pieces of shit on Palestine but Biden handed Trump a layup enough to pull slightly ahead as the "lesser evil" on this issue. It's absurd to most of us who've reconciled pinched nose support for Dems w/Leftist politics esp given Trumps hard antiArab and AntiMuslim stance going into his 1st election and physically pains me any time I have to acknowledge any way he has done better than the Dems but alas...blame the libs for that.

BK

So far, he is. I'm sorry that reality hurts your feels but it's not a praise of Trump, it's an illustration of how genocidal the Biden Harris regime was.

BK

So did Biden and Harris. That's not overoptimism. It's pragmatism (and about things we are only hypothesizing about and haven't happened yet) as every day there is a major decrease in killing and a major increase in aid and a pause from the nonstop onslaught is a win.

BK

Guy is overoptimistic about ceasefire. Israelis want a final solution.

Sai

Alsaafin not Alsalafin

Akber Khan

You’re probably correct. Because if Harris had won it would have “proven” to Democrats that they didn’t need people who cared about Gaza to win.

Michael

Great episode. Love when you guys have Mohammed on ❤️🇵🇸

Twistedsister

My thinking is that I'd believe in this ceasefire if smotrich and gvir had really bounced and left netanyahu hanging. Also, i saw a European news report that translated netanyahus recent speech in hebrew and it seemed to wink that the second stage wasn't going to happen and that Trump had signed off on that. Im not going to play the who's better game. I feel like Trump setup Biden, who took the ball, and now Trump is using the ceasefire as a shitty headfake. PS: Trump announced he was sending SF into Mexico, to fight, which is awesome. Both suck. I was tangentially involved in the Afghan pullout and i view it the same way, but in reverse. Trump setup for pullout, but shabbily, caving to Taliban, and Biden left. Trump was going to leave troops in bagram, so it would've been stupider

jbwhat

Came searching for the same answer 🙏

Adam

Sparky the Forbidden One

Salid Tahsaar

That appears to be the “trade off.”

Michael

“This Gaza stuff makes for bad television.” Donald Trump’s likely thought process.

Michael

I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion but I agree with you assessment - I just don't agree with Will & Mo's credit to some real estate schmuck for getting the deal over the line

Dang

I think it's just real politik- Mohammed and Will pretty bluntly named that Bibi put all the chips on Trump because the real prize is an internationally recognized annexation of the west bank. Biden supported Bibi to the tilt because he wanted Bibi to succeed at an impossible mission: eradication of Hamas and/or PA control of Gaza. Bibi and Smotrich likely know that's close to impossible, so they sunk all possible resources toward a Trump win. Both of the guys are monsters, but on napkin math alone, fewer people will die under Trump than a Kamala admin, solely because the PA is not a real opposition force against Israel.

Leonardo Restrepo

Me? Lol

Dang

Oh, this dude's a troll lol

Leonardo Restrepo

I know it's tone deaf given the content of the episode, but does anyone know what the music was that played midway through the episode? Sounded beautiful.

thomas w. martin

This was a major episode. Kudos for bringing on a brilliant guest. Lots of ground covered - very clarifying, sobering, etc.

Rohmer Simpson

But… but… Will insisted that Trump would be better for Palestinians than Biden!

M

Move the goalposts all you want I'm just saying you do not have to hand it to Trump who's already talking about how nice a spot Gaza is and his bitchboi is doing zeig heils Saying "death to all Nazis" and then crediting a party full of them makes you look dumb af

Dang

Israeli military is attacking Palestinian city of Jenin in West Bank.

jbwhat

Deal is accepted and far right psychos(even in Israeli circles) have left over it. So clearly something happened. What sanctions were the settlers facing? Some bullshit paper tiger where Amazon couldn't deliver directly to their door? Honestly what sanctions were meaningfully imposed on the settlers when Israel itself got billions of dollars?

K H

The 2024 election results seem to have divided Sparky into about 4 or 5 new posters 🤔

Matthew

I'm not even defending Biden here! Literally doing the "you do not have to hand it to trump" thing

Dang

Best not to waste your time, Chapo and the fanboys are going full MAGA.

M

It exists in name only because Bibi wanted to try to make things look good for the inauguration weekend headlines. They'll be back to carpet bombing soon with full US blessings just like they did in Lebanon after that "ceasefire."

M

Let me guess: We’re going to hear more baseless chatter about Biden and Trump are exactly the same on Palestine literally on the day that Trump canceled sanctions on violent settlers, the IDF immediately starts a massive West Bank operation while settlers slaughter Palestinians, and the incoming US ambassador to the UN publicly says Israel has a "biblical right" to the West Bank. Biden aided a genocide that will absolutely continue when lsrael decides it’s a fun time to violate the ceasefire, but to pretend it isn't/won't be qualitatively even worse now with an even higher body count to come is willfully delusional.

M

It is difficult to comprehend how very weak and ineffective Biden was. Check out my Guernica = Gaza painting https://youtu.be/cuqnMCZCJoU?si=v5N6T2ntr_QEgFop

NerdsMakeMedia

Felix begins speaking at 3 minutes and 45 seconds

Travis

Glad you’ve learned your lesson. Never do it again.

Smooth Shrek

That last bit was a difficult listen. I tried to imagine how I would manage if I was sent videos of my grandparents neighborhood completely destroyed and almost unrecognisable, and the only thing I could think was that I don't think I could ever forgive those who allowed it to happen.

ThatFlyingScotsman

Mohammad is a godsend. thank you for connecting us to his brilliant work and analysis.

M

Regarding the condition of released Hamas hostages, the one that really struck me was the woman released during the November ceasefire *with her dog*. Not only were all the humans in fine condition, but Qassam kept an Israeli pet alive for almost two months while their own families were struggling to stay fed.

Ian H

yes great book! recomendation. You can easily find it open source online.

christoph.s

Very well put! I am austrian therfore our experiences on this might differ. But especially the last sentiment about democractic education and holocaust rememberance is exactly how I feel. It is like going crazy the same old intellctuals, in public discourse who would call bush a stupid warmonger, who destroyed precious int. law and int. institutions, now scream antisemite about anyone how dares say israel is committing genocide. Including all those same institutions.

christoph.s

I cannot get over how 9/11-brained the authorities in this country became after October 7th, even moreso than 9/11 itself. No college sent cops to beat protesting students during the Iraq War. No media network used passive-voice copspeak whenever the U.S. bombed a wedding in Afghanistan. Nobody tried to ban MySpace because people were sharing the Abu Ghraib photos. But for Israel, this shitty little colony, everyone in positions of power in the United States are willing to do anything to us on their behalf. One of the worst parts of living through the W. Bush 9/11 era was feeling like a moral outsider in your own country. One day you were a baseline citizen and the next everyone was rabidly violent and calling you a traitor for being normal. Twenty years later and I feel it all over again. All those years of liberal democratic education, of being shown Holocaust footage and taught 'Never Again', only to be told now by our own leaders that it's okay, this genocide is a good one. I feel like a drug-sniffing dog being walked past a legal cannabis dispensary. You told me to bark at this shit, why are you now calling me an anti-Semite?! For Israel...I still can't understand it.

Plainwrap

Donate to reconstruction. At least on the Egyptian side aid should get through.

K H

If that's the case, why were these sanctions still in place for the West Bank? And why - if Trump is such a great negotiator - did they get lifted on immediately? https://www.ft.com/content/d4ff1e47-5ed0-4d5c-95a1-746be5779f36 The ceasefire is a good thing and a terrible indictment of Biden's failures, but come on

Dang

Well the remnance of absolute monarchy may play a role, but I would not at all throw all europeans together, germany and austria are def seperate and f.e spain or belgium (which still have monarchys) are way less servile on israel. Or look at Irleand they def do more than nearly all arab states except yemen or lebanon. I am not sure what you meant with how europeans treat black people, but racism against them sure is different than in the us for many reasons. Foremost bc most black people in america have deeper roots than the average white american whereas in germany or austria 95 per cent are at most second gen immigrant.

christoph.s

Probably a centipede because of all the limbs they get. I look forward to them arguing with a journo claiming to be an orphan at the age of 60 because their parents finally died of old age and scolding them about how they interpret their experience surviving the slaughter of their family.

K H

We need so many Luigis.

K H

Typical weak European remnants that submitted to monarchy. Here in the US people only like Israel because they kill Muslims and will in certain cases outright tell you they want to bring about the End of Days/Biblical apocalypse. Do Europeans then treat the handful of Black people like god kings? Is the main fear that closing Israel will mean they have to take their Jews back? In America at least this behavior is mostly motivated by naked lust for violence.

K H

I guess that's the narrative I don't full believe, that there was this massive amount of pressure Trump put on Israel to accept Again, Biden's failures are innumerable and horrific - no argument there. He bears responsibility for the death of thousands. But I fail to believe there was a masterstroke of negotiations or pressure from Trump. Doesn't look like he's really twisting their arm at all actually [Donald Trump signals strong pro-Israel stance by lifting West Bank sanctions US president withdraws measures against extremist Jewish settlers even as dozens attack Palestinian village]: https://www.ft.com/content/d4ff1e47-5ed0-4d5c-95a1-746be5779f36 He's definitely got em by the balls now lol

Dang

The settlers were so hard up dawg. Fr bro. Any day they were gonna stop construction. Trust bro. Pls bro. Bro pls bro I swear bro we had em bro.

K H

Why? You think Biden would have anything to say if they nuked West Bank? He absolutely got big dicked. He got dicked down and his back blowed out. He got run through. Things will continue to deteriorate but at least there is some minor hope now that someone who's single guiding principle isn't service to Israel is in office. Not ideal, but as of right now it appears better than what was before.

K H

We din't stard tha fiire du duh da da da du duh da duh

justDave

Glory to Palestine. Victory to Palestine. Death to all nazism.

K H

WITKOFF ROLLS ON SHABBOS

No

"Dirty, Bearded Men on a Zoom"

Matthew

They were nuanced in their analysis of the Trump admins ceasefire deal.

Mountain Dew Code Bipolar

What good is the deal if you won't apply leverage to ensure it? Biden didn't apply any pressure.

Mountain Dew Code Bipolar

also I doubt Felix reads this but I've seen Muslims say that yemen is the true "keeper of the faith" or whatever you said

J. A.

Hail yemen! HAIL YEMEN!

J. A.

I like that they added in Arabic it's 'Your goods have been returned to you' 🤌

ploob

a good yet harrowing source to better understand the obsession with inflicting sexual terror: Franz Fanon "A dying colonialism." First chapter on why the French colonizer was obsessed with unveiling the "misterious" Algerian woman.

SM21

ah yes because sanctions on 7 individuals will stop Israel from conquering the west bank despite the US vetoing any UNSC resolution, sanctioning international bodies, and funneling money to other settlers.

Giancarlo Buonamici

Then why is it the same deal put out forth beforehand? Also they didn't reverse arms shipments? And existing assistance deals with Israel are likely to stand so... https://www.axios.com/2025/01/20/israel-trump-arms-shipment-gaza-hamas https://www.newstimes.com/news/article/trump-suspends-us-foreign-assistance-for-90-days-20046093.php

Dang

because it doesn't matter. suspend arms shipments and Biden had it. the biden admin did not want it so Bibi didn't have to sabotage shit for trump.

kitty pavlova

The enemy of your enemy is your Chapo coming at you!

Ketan Ketan

"Nah, Fat - we don't do Hiroshima no more, Jack. But we'll do a Dresden errday the week, Bibi!"

Robert Armstrong

It is a little insane that there's no mention of one obvious angle: Bibi wanted Trump to win and was eager to give him a early victory because he thinks he'll be more favorable to his longterm goals in Gaza, Westbank & the region Biden owns this bloodbath, tbc, but to pretend that it was big dicked negotiation by Trump's people that got it over the line is a bit ridiculous

Dang

That's your takeaway?

Jackson

Great episode! It was interesting that Mohammad cited the article by Owen Jones about bias in the BBC because just yesterday there was a BBC journalist talking about how UNICEF had referred to the conflict as a “war on children” and that for the last 15 months, an average of 10 children per day lost one or both legs and that Gaza has the highest concentration of child amputees in the world. It was quite jaw dropping because it’s rare to hear such raw journalism from the BBC

Fernslinger

What do you want to bet that MBS told Trump he’d never see another LIV event at a Trump golf course if the U.S. was funding and supplying the IDF’s genocide in Gaza while he was President? He and Jerrod both do a lot of business in the Persian Gulf.

Jim Chapman

Can’t wait for Trump to say “Vivek and JD Vance couldn’t be on your team” when Ohio State gets their WH hamburger party.

Jon Rehm

dont wear out your knee pads worshiping at the altar of trump you dipshits oh look settler sanctions lifted!

a bugs life

Movie Mindset needs an emergency podcast.

Jim Chapman

…Henry Kissinger, Menachim Begin, Anwar Sadat…

Jim Chapman

Great ep, heart wrenching.

Cory Waring

the Radio War Nerd ep on this was crazy, the detail about Hamas cleaning up and reclaiming unexplosed israeli ordnance and "returning to sender" is so metal

etienne

Trump took Bidens V-Day card.

Troy DeCarolis

Many Chapo listeners who closely follow the genocide in Gaza, may have encountered reactions to it from Germany or Austria might wonder: 'why are their media and politicians even more deranged about israel than anywhere else, and exceed the anglossphere by far in the craven bootlicking? Is it their nazi past? Well yes, it is but something deeper is going on. With an uprecidented campaign to intimidate regular poeple with no power, student artist etc. The zionists created an atmosphere of fear. But this is not! because people agree with zionists or love israel. One other very very important distinction is that zionist always, succesfully equate jew and zionist and israeli. They can do that bc there are just not that many jewish people in germany and austria and those who have a public voice nearly all support this narrative. I went to many uni lectures that bc of the topics could touch palestine and if one student would bring it up (and not by any means pro palestine just as tame as you could think) dozens of people would jump up and leave. Or at political events I was at a socdem district get together for the upcoming elections and when someone asked a rep for parlament if they think the ceasfire would hold, everyone down to the loweset officeholder excused themselfs and left. It was surreal. But the reaction when the topic comes up, in regular conversation, with anyone from the construction workers I work with, to people at uni (students and staff), or in the art history museum I also work at, people will say something along the lines of well: 'They have such good connections and lobbying the rules don't apply to them' People of course only say that after double checking that you are not jewish. It is an insane trend that again I personally experienced across all party lines, I heard that from greens, socdem, liberal conservatives all across the spectrum (well the right wing was always open on the 'jews' said something like it but use 'eastcoast, rothschild or soros and money grubbing' and they still do, but now the younger right wingers like Israel)

christoph.s

As much as I hate Trump, if Kamala was president, the cease-fire would’ve never happened

Ardy Rezv

I mean... They gave it to Abiy Ahmed, Barack Obama and Aung San Suu Ki.

Savannakhet

at around 46 min about sexual violence and reporting. When the three israelis were released and just in a helicopter, the austrian state news correspondant in Tel aviv said live on air in the evening news: ' the mood of relif will change into anger, when those three will talk about how they were brutally raped in captivity.' A baseless speculation about sexual violence that would get you fired immediatly, but not here bc it is in service of something greater:Israel

christoph.s

Hearing Felix discuss the AHA vote is 95% toward confirming my theory that he and Gabe Winant are the same person

Blank

Jesus did know I wasn’t allowed to just say something so basic, sorry I didn’t just post about slop or whatever meme gets regurgitated

Kollie123

Remember to donate gang 😁

Goonba

https://proletaren.se/artikel/yassir-arafats-livvakt-minns-en-kampens-man Here is an interview with Arafats former bodyguard, its in swedish. He talks about the diffrence then and now.

SunRaTheThird

"Expectations are like assholes, full of disappointment" — John F. Kennedy, probably

Schwartz666

Ok?

J.P. McD.

🙏🤞🏻🍀

Schwartz666

No. Not even close.

Zach Pierce

Hani, the guy behind the linked fundraiser, is a legit and awesome dude. Awesome to see chapo supporting him and his family/team and their essential work.

Ben Thelen

Gods bless those kids in the Ep Img... far braver and stronger than I'll ever be! 🫡🖖🥰🤲

Schwartz666

Trump, Nobel Peace Prize..... incoming!?!?? 🤔🤯

Schwartz666

I was expecting an episode about Inauguration Day and the insane shit already going down

Kollie123

Lovely David Lynch sendoff on the last episode. The Lynch-less world feels cheaper already.

Rohmer Simpson

SAVE US MR. CHAPO! 🆘️

Schwartz666

Wonder what those kids want to be when they grow up.

ploob

we did it Felix….. we won !(kamala expression)

Goonba

W 2:30 EST upload time. cant sleep so this is great

mike tursi

Did everyone like the wet Trump announcement during the NCAA championship

Pete


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