Unity News
Added 2023-09-18 03:42:01 +0000 UTCEyo!
I'm sure some of you have heard some buzz about Unity (the game engine Rack 2 is using). If you haven't, the short story is that Unity is rolling out an extremely exploitative and ridiculous monetization model that's especially bad for indie developers of F2P games - and importantly, they intend to apply it retroactively, to games already made (or in development) using the old licensing model.
Needless to say, this blows, and everyone (including me) is extremely upset about it. Several developers and publishers have spoken out against Unity, and many people are abandoning the engine moving forward - some even pausing development on current Unity projects.
For the time being, I'm waiting with some tempered (and slighlty pessimistic) hope to see if Unity walks the decision back. I definitely won't be using the engine for future projects, even if they do, but I'd obviously prefer that R2 doesn't get stuck in development any longer than it needs to. Porting, at this point, would be a nightmare.
Anyway, I'll keep you guys posted as we learn more. No matter what happens, this won't affect Rack 1, Midnight Fireworks, Bedplay, Pawstitution, or Spellbound; none of those games use Unity!
Comments
Getting back into this game after so long, I just looked at this derbacle myself, looks like they pulled their pants down, mooned their customers and crapped on their front door for good measure. That is the technical end of Unity and they can now call it disunity.
Fenrir
2024-02-07 21:28:29 +0000 UTCTheres a telegram channel and no there has not been any updates on when rack 2s next update will be out
Azzy
2024-01-07 13:45:29 +0000 UTCI love Rack 2, it has so much potential! Here's hoping you (Fek) find all the love and awesomeness you need to keep on making this great game. Definitely looking forward to seeing what comes next from here on! Also, is there a Discord Server somewhere that I missed out on? I'd love to join and check in there if there is somewhere I can look to for more regular updates. Many thanks!
Shady Wulf
2024-01-03 22:09:59 +0000 UTCWould be nice to see some updates on rack 2 https://trello.com/b/ULIAJ0Ik/r2ck it seems the trello is just abandon its been 4 years since anything has been updated on the trello
Azzy
2023-12-29 08:25:12 +0000 UTCNEVERMIND, found it
Max RedLine
2023-12-18 04:58:15 +0000 UTCIk this is random but, pawstitution? is it a game they have made or can i just not find it?
Max RedLine
2023-12-18 04:55:32 +0000 UTCHopefully Unity gets their act together, I was looking into learning that engine myself
Branwen
2023-11-22 06:11:46 +0000 UTCEyo! Unity backpedaled (for now) - I'll be continuing to finish out R2 in Unity, but then I certainly won't be using it for any future projects, just to be safe. (Frankly, I'll most likely stick to 2D games for at least a while after I finish R2; 3D burned me out much faster than I expected)
Fek
2023-11-16 10:41:01 +0000 UTCEllo first time supporter here, just curious on what's going to happen to Rack 2 since it's been 2 month since this post was made and I've heard that Unity backpeddled a bit on the changes. Is the development continuing or is it still in limbo atm Fek?
Quantum
2023-11-09 02:17:49 +0000 UTCIts been almost 2 months since fek has said anything on the patreon what is going on
Azzy
2023-11-03 00:54:45 +0000 UTCDon't worry about the unity install fee thing. It doesn't apply to any games made in the current versions of the engine. So as long as you don't upgrade to the next Unity LTS release which is due to come out in 2024, you can continue development on Rack 2 for as long as you want without owing those scoundrels any extra money.
non_user
2023-10-25 07:17:58 +0000 UTCGotta admit its been a few years so i figured I'd toss him a bit more money and download a new version for my new computer rather than just toss the old one over. Turns out its still the same version. I get that they are juggling multiple projects and as a CPAP user myself Im super glad they got a CPAP, but it's basically vaporware at this point until a new update actually happens.
Ralathar44
2023-10-16 20:40:02 +0000 UTCBeen a minute since the last rack 2 update is there any progress we havent heard about since april you made it sound like the update was almost done i think i speak for everyone in asking is there anything NEW you can tell us
Azzy
2023-10-08 04:35:17 +0000 UTCdidnt think you were even working on rack 2 I mean no offense, but you havent done anything to it that has translated to us in what 3 yrs? or is there an updated version I have missed? cuz last one was 2020 mate.
rugarou
2023-09-24 22:28:54 +0000 UTCwe've already waited over 2 years for an update. Someone grab me when half life 3 comes out and the rack 2 update probably wont be far behind.
Gabriel Tolley
2023-09-20 13:25:47 +0000 UTCEven if they backpedal their trust is gone and I say we all just use Unreal and others now. If Unity did a model of lets say.. "Every purchase of any game that uses their engine/Software being used a 20 cents charge would go to Unity." That would of made more sense. But install? The people behind the thought process of that are literally mentally deranged or not in reality.
Bazzal
2023-09-20 06:13:17 +0000 UTCum theres the rest of the world, then theres china... so i mean....
rugarou
2023-09-19 02:30:25 +0000 UTCI saw a posting that sounds like they might be backpedaling faster than the last winning rowing team in the Olympics
anonnymousspacething
2023-09-18 19:54:06 +0000 UTCI mean there is that to But the tech to monitor downloads for this would either be considered an invasion of privacy. At the very least to actively track downloads to that degree would require individual monitoring of devices which in turn would make unity programs close to spyware. Though given the recent actions and the insider trading incident this could be corporate sabotage to tank unity value so it can be bought out by another company.
Michael Hunt
2023-09-18 18:12:00 +0000 UTCRetroactive changes to contracts are illegal basically everywhere in the world, unless all parties involved in the contract agree (which obviously isn't the case with unity). For non-retroactive changes to contracts it differs, but usually it requires either agreement of all involved parties, or alternatively non-agreeing parties must be able to terminate the contract before the changes come into effect. (In the case of unity this would mean that the license to use the unity engine becomes void) However, I am not a lawyer.
Lazy Mist
2023-09-18 16:20:06 +0000 UTCWas going to say if you have any games in Unity, consider switching them to Godot instead of abandoning: I think more people have seen where the proprietary model leads and why it's a bad idea to rely on closed source corporate owned engines.
Mircea Kitsune
2023-09-18 13:22:51 +0000 UTCHave heard a few game dev friends saying they're likely going to be finishing their current projects before moving on to learn other engines like UE5, Godot, GameMaker or whatever other engine that's out there. I do recommend giving Godot a look! It's come a long way from when I last checked it out 6 years ago, 4.1 looks really good and the 3D engine has hoenstly improved. Gonna look as that as my next engine since it has C# support :P
Treble Sketch
2023-09-18 10:42:43 +0000 UTCThere are pokemon games made with unity so their gonna have to deal with Nintendo and their bloodthirsty lawyers so that's a pretty funny idea
Final_Reckoning9
2023-09-18 09:28:55 +0000 UTCUnity messed up big time
King
2023-09-18 08:30:14 +0000 UTCyeah Unity Runtime Fee is pretty scary. Is it possible to open Rack 2 project and get help by your community? Maybe no for a lot of reason, but I still want ask it.
JervNorsk
2023-09-18 06:38:09 +0000 UTCr2ck unreal port when :o
Shira Wolven
2023-09-18 04:19:27 +0000 UTCtime for Unreal engine 5.3!? :O I'm willing to pay so much more for a game on UE5+ !
Ember
2023-09-18 03:56:55 +0000 UTCThere is no feasible way to apply this retroactively. The raw logistics alone would be so wrapped in red tape and coding hell it just doesn't seem like it will actually happen. And given the suspicions of insider trading by I believe the CEO it's possible that this is some high end table shenanigans
Michael Hunt
2023-09-18 03:45:52 +0000 UTC
