January Submission Thread and Voting Results
Added 2016-12-08 00:21:45 +0000 UTC[b]Who Can Submit:[/b]
- Patrons at the $10+ Tier
- Patrons with enough piggybank credit (from the $5 tier) to count as $10+ for one month.
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The vote was very close! We had a 2-2-2 tie for most of the duration between "Mermaid Hunt", "Wheel O' Doom III", and "Extra Main Comic Pages", but a someone tossing their bonus vote into the ring made it 2-3-2. And so our winner is... Wheel O' Doom III (Safi/Mimic Suprise)!!
Edit: My apologies, I didn't note the results of the instant run-off. I'm not sure how to handle draws.. if I remove them both, Wheel O' Doom is the only one left standing. If I remove "Mermaid" first, then Wheel O' Doom wins 5-2. If I remove "Extra Pages" first, Wheel O' Doom wins 3-2. So... I guess it doesn't matter how I calculate it.
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I know someone at the $10 tier asked for the The Mirror Of Empathy submission to make a return, so that'll be present in the January vote. I wonder what it'll be up against..
Comments
Yep!
GrimFC
2016-12-21 02:49:59 +0000 UTCstill time to submit something?
Jarick
2016-12-21 02:42:17 +0000 UTCThere is more of it, but good quality art (in terms of technical skill) is still somewhat rare and the good stuff you do see is being largely driven by commission work.
veeshan123
2016-12-19 12:28:13 +0000 UTCOn a random note, I've been glancing around DA and.. wow, there is a LOT more plant and similar vore art than there used to be. I had been wondering how not-so-sexual vore could be seen as generic but I guess I missed DA dive headfirst into fantasy bio-bondage land. Foo Bar: Amber is still going to get more screentime~
GrimFC
2016-12-19 04:56:23 +0000 UTCI'm glad you finally wrote what you felt in a way that makes it clear what you're saying. #1: "erotic horror" usually means "horror that involves something sexual", not "horror that involves a character becoming sexually aroused". I think you may have been loose with words, but I understand where you're coming from. "Softcore" in my opinion doesn't mean "devoid of penetration", it means "devoid or mostly devoid of pornographic concepts". #2: A story can be over at any point. For example, in the main comic we've seen so far, would you say any characters have had a "definitive end"? Has Amber? I do get what you're saying, though. Thanks for taking the time to be more specific about it.
Foo Bar
2016-12-15 08:42:03 +0000 UTC@Foo Bar There are two issues I have with yours that I'll spell out. 1) What do all those ideas have in common? They're not erotic. And by erotic I mean for the character. They're stripped and humiliated and that's it. They're just put on display for the titilation of others. I'm sorry, but as I've said you can find that all over Deviantart; people tied up, webbed, captured, vored without any sexual content. Finding that kind of content *with* sexual content is a lot rarer, and Eldrik's art has always been highly sexual. That is why I contributed here and I'm sure I'm not the only one. This is why I'm so vehement about this, it's not that I feel my preferences override others, it's just that if you do not favour this kind of content why are you even here? There are plenty of other places to find softcore bad ends/death. 2) By definitive end I don't necessarily mean death. I mean that you're basically suggesting the beginning of a story and leaving it there. A mermaid gets captured, and then what? Someone gets trapped, and then what? Someone gets enslaved, and then what? Minicomics are better when self-contained. Now sure you can say there can be a sequel, but I think that's unfair to expaect that and say "oh the real finale will happen later if you vote for it again!". The exception to this are things like the Wheel of Doom, because while it has an overall story with the 4 victims, each fate is self-contained.
Stark
2016-12-13 23:21:38 +0000 UTC@GrimFC It is the mixture of reception and actual occurrence. Of course nobody expects the main comic to plough through its characters like Vin Diesel in an action film, but there have been quite a few pages being literally nothing but people walking somewhere - without using the space for anything but that; no exposition or whatever. Now, as I said, I won't give up on this any time soon (I'll be here dishing out weird ideas for some time to come :P), but I also don't know what your plans for "plot speed" are. That introduces some uncertainty when or if anything will happen. I don't want to force your hand either, disrupting the plans you had laid out for the comic. Perhaps you could create a simple road map, laying out when we will roughly get to what character (without anything specific) at the comic's current speed.
Mandarion
2016-12-13 12:54:48 +0000 UTCDude, I went back through what I've submitted so far. As far as fates go, I sent: 1 swallowed whole, 1 breast-enlarged into immobility, 1 petrified/stoned, 1 inflated to immobility, 1 trapped and injured to die a slow death, 1 abducted into permanent slavery. Every one is different, but it's hard to argue any of those aren't fates or aren't grim. Not being dead is not the same as not meeting a "fate" - and in two of six (1/3) the above submissions the person is in fact literally dead "on camera". I just don't think what's actually been happening adds up to the picture you're painting of it. I promise that next month I'll submit something with a definite end, though, if that'll make you happier.
Foo Bar
2016-12-13 10:49:06 +0000 UTC@Stark I was referring to submitting it for next month, not voting, but I’ll take this to be a re-submit? @Mirdarion: Did you read my response to your HF comment, by chance? It covered some stuff I won’t rehash here, but, anyway, a digestion mini seriously just won. And WoD part II could have had digestion in it based on the submission, I just ended up with a plant design that left it ambiguous (mostly because we ran out of space). So 2/7 actual digestion (and the upcoming mini was scripted to have it be more on-screen than glue plant), or 3/7 winners that could have had it. The only fetish with a larger presence is webbing/wrapping, clocking in at a mighty… 3/7. Even "tentacles" is only 3/7. I still don't get where this scope limiting stuff came from. The main comic said it'd have digestion.
GrimFC
2016-12-13 04:38:43 +0000 UTC@Stark I'm with you on this, but in this case it seems the majority of patrons (at least those that can vote/submit) doesn't see it like this. I was hoping for this comic not to derail into the usual light bondage and tentacle stuff that makes up most of this genre (the beginning showed great promise with the underwater plant and the at least indicated transformation), but aside from the miracle that was my glue plant submission being selected, everything points in the usual direction. I want to give this comic some more time regardless, but if your ideas diverge so considerable of those of the others, it may be smarter for you to invest the money you currently put into the comic into commissions that are more to your liking. It's quite a shame that even soft-vore and soft-digestion (of whatever kind) is too extreme for most, which unfortunately limits the scope of the comic considerably.
Mandarion
2016-12-13 02:41:00 +0000 UTCI did vote for more of the main comic this month, it was outvoted.
Stark
2016-12-12 13:59:02 +0000 UTCPutting the okay'd tweak here (instead of buried in comment chain): Hearth-God’s Sacrifice (Drider Fishing Part 2) – Amarenzu finds the webbing dissipated as she’s flung in the middle of a mildly fiery sacrificial circle, monstrous creatures chanting around her. Amarenzu can’t leave the circle, but her demon skin is mostly fire-proof. A ghostly rod slams into her sex, the circle heating up a bit as she cries out in a mixture of pain and pleasure. This continues, the rods continuing to pump her as they rise, stuff her mouth, etc (moving her into a rotisserie-like position). She is basted/glazed/etc as her every erotic quiver brings her closing to a cooking heat. Amarenzu struggles to avoid orgasming herself onto the menu.. but doesn’t quite make it.
GrimFC
2016-12-12 01:54:01 +0000 UTCIf you want to change it to that, that is fine. I'll just vote for something else lol. Honestly I just try to come up with new ideas because of the rule preventing repeats in a short time frame, otherwise I would just suggest straight up vore or spider themed stuff every month.
veeshan123
2016-12-12 00:54:45 +0000 UTCI have a question, maybe we can compromise here? How about this: Hearth-God’s Sacrifice (Drider Fishing Part 2) – Amarenzu finds the webbing dissipated as she’s flung in the middle of a mildly fiery sacrificial circle, monstrous creatures chanting around her. Amarenzu can’t leave the circle, but her demon skin is mostly fire-proof. A ghostly rod slams into her sex, the circle heating up a bit as she cries out in a mixture of pain and pleasure. This continues, the rods continuing to pump her as they rise, stuff her mouth, etc (moving her into a rotisserie-like position). She is basted/glazed/etc as her every erotic quiver brings her closing to a cooking heat. Amarenzu struggles to avoid orgasming herself onto the menu.. but doesn’t quite make it. ^ That idea also lets me use the stuff the monster bought at the end of drider fishing (candles and such), which I would prefer to do. It also lets me truly finish her instead of leaving her fate open as I don't think there is enough left for a part 3 barring a deus ex machina. Well, a prequel detailing how the drider came to be could be interesting. Also, giving me wiggle-room to interpret things helps a lot. For example, the "is basted" instead of specifying how it happens lets me ponder if ghostly basters, having the glaze be cooling so if it is poured on her she'd reflexively help rub herself down, or something else entirely better fits the comic's flow. ------ Also, if folk want to suggest "More Plant Food Pages", as an option, feel free to do so. I'm periodically concerned that once a week is too slow, occasionally surging forward would be pleasant.
GrimFC
2016-12-11 23:37:25 +0000 UTCEasy solution is to have the "more plant food pages" option every month, that way if no one likes the recommendations, the main comic gets more pages.
veeshan123
2016-12-11 22:17:33 +0000 UTCThat's not the point is it? The point is I am sick and tired of the voting being diluted with such crap ideas. I do not pay as much as I do each month to see good possibilities sidelined with sexless garbage. I am damn picky and if you pay as much or more than me then you should be damn picky too.
Stark
2016-12-11 21:59:22 +0000 UTCWell, unless you aren't in the voting tier, then there isn't anything stopping you from suggesting scenarios to your liking. And if they lose and you voted for them, then eventually you'll have enough bonus votes to ensure whatever meets your criteria wins the monthly vote.
veeshan123
2016-12-11 21:56:02 +0000 UTCI define erotic by whether it's erotic for the characters, and putting someone on display as a literal piece of meat is about as erotic as a pencil in the eye. Foobar's are even worse. "Oh the girl is captured!" Okay. Then what? There isn't even an end there! And like I said, that's the kind of grade of stuff you get on deviantart. I expect much more from here.
Stark
2016-12-11 21:25:40 +0000 UTCErotic is a subjective term in terms of what a person may find to be erotic, not sure you can actually define that beyond its base meaning without pigeonholing it into a limited definition based on the preferences of said person creating that definition.
veeshan123
2016-12-11 20:11:12 +0000 UTCYou know, I really think we need a rule against ideas about vague and ambiguous non-fates that lead nowhere. It would also help if these side comics specified that these ideas should be in some way erotic, because this is some deviantart level nonsense here specifically from foo bar and veeshan. Yes, Stark is criticising again. And I will keep doing so. I have a very limited amount of money and the pharoah nonsense already had me teetering on the edge of withdrawing my pledge. I don't care if I seem dismissive or not at this point. Knock it the hell off.
Stark
2016-12-11 15:45:45 +0000 UTCSequel to Drider Fishing: Amarenzu is brought back to the home of the creature that purchased her from the market. It attaches her to a rotisserie spit, then removes the cocoon wrapping. It begins to baste her with oils/butters/herbs. While it does this, it quickly swallows one of the bargain bin girls whole while she is still wrapped (quick snack), which makes Amarenzu realize what the thing is prepping her for. It then places Amarenzu in the rotisserie oven and sets the cook time for 1 year (lessor demon girls are heat resistant and take a long time to break down that defense). Comic would end with Amarenzu looking panicked as she rotates in the oven...and very warm!
veeshan123
2016-12-11 14:15:26 +0000 UTCThief's Fate from way back on that TD related option.
Wraith1113
2016-12-10 15:04:11 +0000 UTCIf you're first choice is outvoted, yes. Getting bonus votes is based on your regular (whether via piggybank or actually being at the voting reward tier) vote being outvoted. If someone only has bonus votes, they don't get more bonus votes for being outvoted. Anyway, to be specific, if you used piggybank credit to vote next month, and were outvoted, you would have 1 bonus vote. You would keep that vote until you got your first choice with it.
GrimFC
2016-12-09 23:55:46 +0000 UTCAnd if I don't win do I get a bonus vote?
Shaun Kelly
2016-12-09 16:56:13 +0000 UTCJust piggybank your way up there. If you can enter submissions ($10 tier) you just have to wait two months and use your $5 reward to upgrade to the $20 tier to vote.
Mandarion
2016-12-09 10:16:31 +0000 UTCSucks I cant vote for the one I requested.
Shaun Kelly
2016-12-09 08:09:25 +0000 UTCAh well. Back to submitting losing ideas, then. "The hook trap: An explorer delves through a cave. She unwittingly triggers a trap that causes an enchanted hook to swing down from the ceiling and score a perfect hit on her ass. Then its chain retracts rapidly, hauling her kicking and screaming to dangle in a most uncomfortable fashion in the darkness near the cave roof."
Foo Bar
2016-12-08 19:24:16 +0000 UTCYou didn't say you were using any bonus votes. I don't assume they are being used (there are, after all, reasons why someone would vote without using them). My apologies for the confusion.
GrimFC
2016-12-08 13:41:53 +0000 UTCYou have to communicate you are using bonus votes if you have some banked
veeshan123
2016-12-08 13:40:22 +0000 UTCHow can the vote be 2-2-2? I have something like six bonus votes.
Foo Bar
2016-12-08 10:22:49 +0000 UTC