The Fani Willis Hearings - Your Comprehensive Guide 2
Added 2024-02-21 08:12:06 +0000 UTC
Episode 1007
It's Part 2! Fani testifies! It is high drama. Not only that, we hear from an incredible Cohen Brothers movie character for some reason. We also hear from Fani Willis's dad, someone who has led a fascinating life. Then finally, they put Wade's ex-partner Bradley on the stand and... try to make him talk for like 4 hours. It also takes a very dark turn.
I don’t think keeping a lot of cash in your house is just a black thing, I think it’s also a poverty thing. I grew up in poverty and my mother always kept most of, if not all of her money in cash in the house on the 1970’s and 1980’s. I still do it to this day even though I am no longer poor.
Not that millionaire
2024-02-23 21:24:21 +0000 UTC
The voir dire talk brought memories of being a juror 13 years ago. Both lawyers and the judge kept quizzing the jury candidates about a specific name (who would eventually take the stand as a victim). Nobody knew who this person was before the trial or during, but at the end of the trial the lawyers mentioned that he was an elected official and was a current City Council member.
Sent from Disneyland
2024-02-22 03:35:19 +0000 UTC
Ok thank you, I specifically came here to scream into the void about this
MechaClover
2024-02-22 00:01:10 +0000 UTC
"It's also a little short sighted to think that one's personal experience with money is universal" fortunately, no one on the show thinks that! In fact, the exact opposite view was expressed.
Opening Arguments
2024-02-21 23:06:20 +0000 UTC
Yep!
Opening Arguments
2024-02-21 23:01:38 +0000 UTC
Zug zug?
James Hamblin
2024-02-21 21:56:38 +0000 UTC
Agreed @Matt, I thought this pod was pretty clear that you found that completely reasonable.
I think the fact that the point of their testimony centred on the cash question, and that Dad inadvertently brought his testimony into disrepute around the (sequestering?), led to your calling out that as having a potential to create problems, regardless of your believing them to be credible. And to be fair, I think that was necessary. Regardless of if it's plausible or 100% accurate that she did/does keep cash on hand - in the court of law, what's literally true isn't always what the court will find to be fact.
I am a philosophical hole
2024-02-21 21:32:12 +0000 UTC
I dunno, maybe he thinks the money was "ganging up" in her purse, ready to attack the next unsuspecting Alliance raiding party...
I am a philosophical hole
2024-02-21 21:22:41 +0000 UTC
I’m seeing black women all over the internet post that they were taught at an early age to keep cash on hand, and plenty of it when possible. Partly to be prepared for possibilities like their sons being arrested, and partly to be independent of men who might otherwise think they can do whatever they want when they’re paying.
And of course Willis’s father brought up that example of having credit cards and checks refused for presumably racist reasons. That wouldn’t have occurred to me as a white person.
Pixel Mountain (aka Rachel)
2024-02-21 19:25:12 +0000 UTC
Absolutely agreed that we need more diverse perspectives all around, but just to be clear we did all 100% agree several times here that the explanation provided made total sense even from our own personal/family experiences and DA Willis and her father both came off as totally credible on that point. I thought it was really weird that so many commentators were making such a thing of this tbh
Matt Cameron
2024-02-21 19:04:33 +0000 UTC
First off -- still loving the show, which is why I come here to comment at all. If I didn't have regard, I'd just listen to something else.
I second Tinkersdamn -- (and I also heard the Daily Beans). It's hard for even very smart, very experienced, very learned people to know the details of cultures about which they have limited or no experience. It is, from my very small fount of knowledge, common in the Black community, and in any community that has a distrust of institutions or a worry about/distrust of having credit cards, banks, or money apps, to rely on cash and to keep it at home in a safe or strongbox (I've heard a number of jokes about keeping money under the mattress, which I find somewhat offensive, really). I'm old, white, born in the South, and my own father always had a large sum of cash on hand. For years, even though he made a good living, he didn't have a checking account, but used money orders to pay his bills (he was born during the Great Depression and grew up with money worries). So it didn't strike me at all as odd to hear Ms. Willis's account.
It's also a little short sighted to think that one's personal experience with money is universal. Just because someone else's manner of handling money differs from our own, or from what we consider 'proper', it doesn't automatically become suspicious behavior. We should gather more information before making a decision like that, especially if we want to call ourselves rational skeptics.
The Beautiful Thumb
2024-02-21 17:04:29 +0000 UTC
There was a portion of a listener letter on Daily Beans the other day that explained the practise of keeping cash around- beyond what DA Willis said re dates, listener is a Black woman with a son and she needs to have cash on hand when her son is wrongfully picked up so she has bail money. Things like that that we as white people never have to think about.
I love Matt but if you could find a Black lawyer now and then I think we’d learn some different cultural perspectives.
Tinkersdamn and Skel
2024-02-21 16:43:01 +0000 UTC
He meant cash *hoard* (a collection) not *horde* (an army). If only he had known this, he might've better differentiated that he didn't say "cash *whore*".
Unlikable Internet Goblin
2024-02-21 16:25:39 +0000 UTC
I think the state wants to do whatever it can to completely and utterly discredit the guy as Thomas said. They're going to say that you can't believe a word he says because he has a grudge against Wade.
Michael Rops
2024-02-21 16:05:58 +0000 UTC
I love how Sadow makes sure to spell the word "hoard"... Incorrectly 😂
James Hamblin
2024-02-21 16:04:16 +0000 UTC
There was so much drama! And so many BIG personalities!
KeepingThePlatesSpinning
2024-02-21 16:00:34 +0000 UTC
Thomas, the reason you think Barnes was the guy offered the job before Wade is because he literally testified to the fact that He turned the job down roughly a week before Wade was announced as the special prosecutor. He left, searched his calendar and came back with the exact date and time of his meeting.
Michael Rops
2024-02-21 15:47:45 +0000 UTC
(Correction - or maybe a "Thomas was wrong" 😂 - Frasier plays Dr. Hank McCoy - Beast - who is blue, and is a PhD-doctor genetic scientist ... FYI he has a cameo in the credits of the recent The Marvels movie too)
I am a philosophical hole
2024-02-21 13:59:20 +0000 UTC