Blub, blub.

Also, I'm obsessed with Mermaids, that'd be fantastic

Kane

New to the patreon so I'm catching up on what I've missed. A definite YES to Mermaid Alice! A beautiful, vibrant underwater level with underlying terrifying depths, the deep sea and what could possibly be in it has always scared me so I think it'd be amazing!

Kane

Ah memories of the second chapter of Madness Returns, my favourite. And Alice returning in the depths, becoming a mermaid ! Waiting is hard and sweet.

I agree Alice becoming a mermaid would be awesome. The artwork looks cool and having underwater battles would be sweet.

I think it would be pretty cool if Alice at some point would be a mermaid. Underwater worlds are often so beautiful and fun to explore and I think it would fit even better like this. Or at least normal swimming, I thought in AMR it was a bit weird to just being able to normally walk underwater. But I understand that it could be difficult to put that into practice.

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I am new here, so excuse me if I've missed some informations. Alice is 13??? But She was 19 in AMR, why is she younger now? I thought the next game would be a sequel.

Joey Zhuo presented the adult Alice. I suggest a girl suitable for the image of Alice. In the photo she is 11 years. She is now 12 years. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/alice-asylum-18214372">https://www.patreon.com/posts/alice-asylum-18214372</a> <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/alice-asylum-18214500">https://www.patreon.com/posts/alice-asylum-18214500</a>

Forgot to add also, keep up the great work everyone! If I was rich, I would send bouquets of wonderful food and wine to all of you!

As for having coins in game, what is Alice's purpose for collecting them? AMR saw her collecting her teeth which was super cool as they were used for weapon upgrades and I liked the trailer of AMR where her teeth were falling out! (had plenty of dreams myself like that!) I will be honest, the idea of having individual names in the game sounds cool and involves everyone in the literal game but how cool will it be really? It breaks down the forth wall but in a very basic way.. I know further planning of these concepts will be developed more so I look forward to seeing where it goes. As for underwater levels (I think I've stated this before but...)... not a fan really but I loved the underwater level in AMR with no swimming... The environments are what made it really feel good. Alice as a mermaid? I don't really like the idea especially if she will be a mermaid for a long period of time (like, the entire level, eek). There's my entry for the longest comment and I hope I win (lol)...

Where does our names go? Do you think it would be cool to have the number on the coin in the middle of the chaos symbol? Otherwise it looks amazing! I can't wait to get one!

Art looks awesome! Especially the underwater illustration and the chaos coin. I think an underwater level has a lot of potential to be beautiful and worthwhile, as long as the mechanics and gameplay are not frustrating like most underwater levels in games (for example, I would rather have an underwater level that did not deal with 'drowning'/running out of air).

I like the idea of an underwater level. Maybe a shorter one so that people don't complain as much, but I wouldn't cut it out entirely. I think the chaos side of the coin looks very slick. The only thing I might add is a "health rose" to the center. I think that would make the center space a bit less empty looking. I love the cheshire cat's face! The only thing I would change is to remove some of the lines above his upper lip as they give Chesh a dried out look. Cheers! Thanks for the constant updates!

Jen

I loved the underwater level in the first one as a challenge but in the 2nd because of how pretty it was. I think if you make it visually lovely and vibrant like the second it’d be awesome! Who wants an easy game with no challenge?

Alice does look older then 13 in the drawing. But still well done. Chas coin looks kick ass! Love it!

I, for my part, don't really like the idea of mermaid Alice (almost seems a bit cliché) and swimming levels seem to be the low points of many games (not to say that they can't be done well).

It feels, to me, as I watch streams and etc. that Alice is spoken about more or is shown more favorability over Madness Returns. Does American have a favorite of the two? (Totally cool if he does) Just wondered, I personally would like to watch more of madness returns in the stream. :)

Oh, and swimming levels are infuriating, but isn't that the point. They're part of the package, and they're often one of the most beautiful parts of that package, so not demotivating at all

The opening animated sequences of Madness Returns show an Alice lying prostrate in bed, clutching her teddy, and she looks the right age, and seems a perfectly good place to start for inspiration

I'm totally down for a mermaid Alice eeee!!!!

Alice needs a little more meat to her face. I know we're all stuck on "Older Alice's" looks, however she's still a child in this game and therefore needs baby fat. Also shorter hair

Yes! I love the mermaid Alice! I think if your trying to get wishes from a fish then it could fit into bargaining maybe? I also enjoy swimming levels its fun💘 I really like the coin I think its perfect.

Yea, not a fan of the underwater stuff... I dunno, kinda breaks me away from the Wonderland vibes. I kinda like the straight on portrait of Alice here although I do think it needs a little work. As stated by earlier posts, perhaps a more rounded out version should help make her look younger. But don't forget she has gone though trauma so it's quite possible she would look a little gaunt and I believe in the casebook it mentions how she wasn't eating in the Asylum. Side view is a little off, nose comes out too far or something... Finally, the coin looks pretty spot on here! I would gladly display this in my home :)

Codie K Conklin

Swimming in video games can be very frustrating when the character is stuck against an obstacle but keeps on trying to swim through it because of unnatural inertia in the changing of direction. I guess it's your job to make Alice turn her back on the obstacle like she's hiding behind it or make her automatically swim backwards. Alice doesn't look too old compared to what I saw about "actresses too young for their role". But I think her nose is too long on the left profil image (certainly makes her look older). And she's expected to be much paler I think.

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The art is beautiful, the brainy fish have always creep me out (which is always a good thing with an Alice game.) The coin looks great, simple on one side versus more complicated on the other makes sense when I comes to coins really. I like Alice's large eyes, super reminiscent of the old figure of her I have from the original game. I'm sure you guys will get the final look for her age just right eventually after enough tweaking of her design.

À swim level will be very interesting!!! I love that idea And I agree with you American, she doesn’t look like a 13 years old girl Maybe it’s because of the eyes? I really love your work! Good job 😃❤️

Brigitte Belleville

Alice's nose should be smaller and she needs less makeup, they both just add too much age. Beyond that, do whatever feels natural. Reading some of the original plans for Madness Returns my biggest concern is anyone telling you to change your plans

Mermaid Alice? Ohoho, yes please! If you want, could try making Alice's face slightly more rounder to make her appear younger. Still cute either way though! &lt;3 The Chaos Coin in it's final design is... Oh my, oh. Want. Now. Like in the last post, it holds true, Simplicity really is the ultimate sophistication. The heart did make the design more 'Alicey' but it still looks excellent without it! &lt;3 By the by, when you're done playing Alice, have another game already in mind to play next? I'll gladly link you up with a copy like I did before! :D (Was my comment shorter? I do hope so. Heh.)

Love the coin design!

I'm really hyped for mermaid Alice. I particularly like actual water level, and I was very disappointed with the water levels on Madness Returns. The coin is looking fantastic. I loved the heart, but I believe Ches himself is enough for a symbol that connects the coin with your Alice. Just believe that the fangs look to close to one another, but I'm sure you guys are aware at that. Can't wait for us to reach 2k patreons. I'm still in love with my inmate certificate.

Priscila Nosoma

I personally really liked the swim level in Alice! And the concept of her as a mermaid is really awesome!

Well not pretty sure about the idea of the mermaid although the underwater world in madness returns was dull. The coin design looks great Cheshire cat is more than amazing for a symbol

the words "Alice in mermaid shape" might have made me squeal a little bit. SO HYPED

Aries Chaos

I believe the aging of her face has much to do with the sharpness of her features. Chaos coin is intricately simple. Divine. Huge fan of swim levels. Esp mermaid Alice. Many feelings of drowning associated in grief, underwater volcanoes could serve as connection to the fire. Tail flick as a move sounds 'fintastic'!

Sarah Heist

I think the coin is at this point great! The heart was covering the chaos symbol too much in the earlier design. Now as you said its much more clearer, and better!

I think the heart helps make it clearer it has something to do with Alice, that is why I liked it to begin with. Still looks cool either way though.