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Late-Production Degtyarev PPD 34/38 at the Range (Ad-free)

A crash program to produce the PPD 34/38 after the initial battles of the Winter War, even as the improved PPD 40 was being rapidly developed. These are very rare gun today, and we have the chance to take the example out to the range and see how it handles...

Late-Production Degtyarev PPD 34/38 at the Range (Ad-free)

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They had made a lot more drums than most. The 71rd drum magazine which the Kp/31 uses is actually quite rugger and functional, probably the best subgun drum of the era in terms of dependability, but it was probably also the most expensive because of it, and then you've got the inherent weight and bulk of drums. They could be very effective when put into use, but Finland would gradually transition towards simpler double-stack magazines (very good ones, in fact), and would make those standard with the eventual Kp/44, which was a close copy of the Russian PPS-43, but in 9mm Parabellum. With the slower rate of fire you get about the same duration of fire, if using drums they would last quite a while. If the US ever fielded any drums for the Thompson at all it would be in very small scale, the stick mags were vastly preferred.

Lance Thundercock

I know this is a retro-fit, but drums don't seem to be a very effective way of feeding subguns. I've read that in the Pacific, the Thompson was mostly carried with stick mags, because the drums were bulky, heavy, and noisy. My PPS-43FC comes with 35 round double-stack mags, and those are a LOT easier to transport. Was the drum on the Finnish Suomi kp/31 a more integrated platform? I saw your comment about liking the Suomi better.

Pat Patterson

What was the effect of all those rounds on the target?

The Art of the Reel

Not an AD, that was an OOB.

Forgotten Weapons

Yep you're right! Dyslexia is bad today. It's at 2:15 or 2:16

Chris Denner

Can't see anything. 2:19 is early in the slow mo bit? Is that right?

Gavin Rea-Davies

sound came across very very cool. though I like slow heavy low pressure stuff myself THAT caliber is no joke. would trust that anytime. norinco makes a p226 in it... I doubt those would survive the caliber long but would be real nice to try.

Guido Schriewer

Did you get a accidental discharge at 2:19? Seems like something when poof and a small piece went flying on your right side.

Chris Denner

Seems to be on par with the rate of fire for most of the 30 Tokarev sub guns I have had the pleasure of firing, the slowest and somewhat controllable was the CZ-26. The Pph41 was a hoot to shoot also. Never had the honor to shoot the PPD 34/38. Thank you for the video.

Steven E


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