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The Sopranos 6x15 Reaction

The Sopranos 6x15 Reaction

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“I think maybe… idk”

Andrew

good catch

Diego Corredor

One of my favorites. Tragic end for Junior

CHX2176

Beansie subtly tried to save Paulie in his talk with Tony. He can read between the lines of what Tony is considering, and when Tony flares up at him initially he goes quiet. Then a moment later, when Tony talks about how Paulie viewed him as a general in the painting, and he goes back to telling Tony how Paulie truly does love him and listing his good qualities. Very tactful and shows Beansie knows Tony well enough to know when to shut up and when to speak in order to convince him.

Darrach

Re Carter's anger towards his father — I was impressed that Lola pieced together that he's likely there because he killed his dad. It's not definite, but a very reasonable theory based on what we see. It never occurred to me to even think about why he is inside until reading this fan theory, kudos to Lola for seeing it on first viewing.

Abacus

Tony’s dad is a major part of this episode and you can’t really understand Tony’s attitude towards Paulie in this one without understanding Paulie is a reminder of the burden his dad placed on him, Tony tends to hate characters who remind him of his dad’s era because on some level he hates his dad. The Johnny/Ralph thing was just Tony fishing for a reason to take his rage out on Paulie.

Wayne

It is a must, for sure big part of the sopranos audience will stay for mad men, but to me the real "gift" to us is closing this circle with the mafia genre

Diego Palma

Yeah you guys perfectly broke down the trigger for Tony’s bloodlust this episode. His dynamic with his father is one of the most interesting dynamics I’ve seen on TV and his character is rarely seen on screen

Virgil Hawkins

We are hurtling towards the end, and they haven't watched Goodfellas yet. It would be so great for them to watch it when they're done with The Sopranos, like a closing chapter. It's the link between the glamour of the old Godfather type mafia and the mundane suburban modern mafia of The Sopranos. And they would get such a kick out of seeing all the actors pop up 10-15 years younger.

Abacus

"When my time comes...Tell me, will I stand up?" At that point in the show I absolutely despised Paulie, but that scene still managed to give me chills and even make me a little emotional. The way Paulie delivered the line sounded almost poetic. I also love how even if Pussy was killed early on in the series he never stops being a recurrent character in the story one way or another, he's always in the back of Tony, Paulie and Silvio's mind.

Gaboxxy

Tony IS worse than he was in the past. Yeah maybe not in terms of his job but on a personal level he's notably crueler and less good humored. They even mentioned it in the discussion, the contrast between Tony killing Pussy and Tony here is immense. He treated Christopher kinder in the earlier seasons. He was warmer in general towards his associates. I don't see him asking Paulie if he has tourettes in the first season. The only thing he really retained from the first season is his warmth towards his kids and yeah, he made more an effort to change. The only moral test he has passed was in the first season when he spared the pedo coach on Melfi's and Artie's urging. I can't see him even doing that in this season even if it doesn't cost him much to just report him to the police so even on a mob level, I feel he would be darker.

Veya

You know him as Miles Straume from LOST

Michael M

Heh heh heh.

Marcus Cato

Lost maybe? I think that is the biggest show he's been in.

Marcus Cato

I like that Carter can express his anger towards his dad in a way Tony can't or won't allow himself to. Made all the more potent that Tony explicitly told AJ it's wrong while his dad directly ordered Tony's first kill. I agree that Tony is desperate for any outlet for his underlying resentment. And he still can't seem to reconcile that with the fact that being the strong silent type is incompatible with what he actually wants to feel. Paulie being another symbolic gateway into Tony's first kill also adds a nice layer to his resentment of him as well. The title seems to have a mix of connotations. It portrays the idea of nostalgia in different ways all over the episode. Valid nostalgia, deluded nostalgia, a conversational crutch, but also at the end, something that can still be pure and offer a sense of self. At this point Junior would be lucky if he can have more "remember when" moments.

Veya

You mentioned the difference between Tony in therapy at the start, versus now. I forget the exact episode it was, but between then and now he admitted to himself (And Melfi) that he had given up on trying to change. I think that's the big difference: It's not that Tony is worse now than he was then, but now he's not even putting any effort into improving himself. That effort was his sole redeeming quality. Now he's content to be a piece of shit. A "bridge loan" is specifically a short-term loan that is just supposed to cover until some other money comes in. By asking Hesh for a bridge loan, Tony is saying he's going to pay it back very quickly. Even faster than the usual loan sharking we see. We do see here another instance of somebody 'bluffing it out' with Tony and coming out alive. That's been a running theme throughout the series that when somebody has broken a rule (Or is suspected of breaking a rule) and Tony confronts them, if they REFUSE to admit it Tony backs off. You don't apologize or accept responsibility like a mature person, you deny deny DENY. That's how you survive. When Silvio undermined Tony in season four, he said the "timeline got fucked up" and that he didn't deliberately defy him. Here Paulie refuses to admit he told the joke. They survive by never admitting guilt. I think the only time it doesn't work is with Ralphie, and ironically I think that that is the only time when the guy is actually telling the truth.

JBK405

My favorite Schwarzenegger movie is The Determinator 😂

BND

I don't think Ken Leung was in The 100, I mostly know him from Saw, which is funny since Chris mentioned liking that movie a few episodes ago

BND

do you have Tourettes?

BND

I wouldn't say next ep is a banger lol But the last 5 are def bangers!

Patrick V

It's banger after banger until the end now.

Nicholas

LFG.. Side note: Milena is fn jacked💪

Eric Viola

Yeah he’s great. He also got his job on Lost because of this episode.

Veya

On various Sopranos forums, the topic of favorite one-episode character comes up a lot. Carter Chong always gets mentioned. Ken Leung really killed it in this episode.

Marcus Cato

he never had the makings of a varsity conversationalist

Gaba Gool

Heh heh.

Darrach


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