Short Rest: Eldermourne - Ep. 6: The Rook's Gambit

Hindsight, amirite?

Malcreos

Why have I not been wearing shorts with good pockets over comfy pants is the better question!?!?!? Omg that's brilliant

k.allen

"we're not going to play characters that smoke juuls or something" lol

joelgenez

"I'll spend a round doing nothing as long as we talk about me for a minute" I died when Jake said this... a more honest and hilarious thing has never been said.

Joelle H

Tonker is the gname of my Gnome dude.

Tristin Lewis

Murph I love your homebrew pants. I've been wearing good-pocket shorts over crap-pocket pajamas since 2017, and I won't stop.

David Fryauf

I was thinking while listening to the episode that a feat that could work well with Shank would be Sentinel.

But Murph, I'm a Midwestern man you loves energy drinks and has a beard that will not go any higher then my jaw. I'm crushed, yet honored to be compared to Emily.

Parker Doole

I am an evolutionary biologist and while I love this show and everyone in the 2 crew, every time I hear y'all talking about animals on the short rest I die a little bit inside.

Brandon Harris

Hearing you guys talk about a local hockey tradition was insane!! I love listening to you guys! Eldermourne has been an amazing experience so far. Totally agree with Emily about the blacksmiths and butchers being hot women but gotta disagree with whoever said they had tiny husband's because those butchers are marrying the blacksmiths fo sho Love yall

DOROHEDORO yes

Ian Reilly

Play a dwarf Battle Smith Artificer w a metal Great Dane named Beau and it’s killer. Want to tank? Ok, want to cast? Sure. I’m a Swiss Army knife and it’s amazing. It’s also become a fun joke of how I rebuild the dog if he gets smashed, out of random parts, beer kegs etc lol

Jesymka

Omfg my time has come...I fucking LOVE cephalopods. Emily, you need to read "Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness" by Peter Godfrey-Smith, it's nerdy but also really readable and fun. The main difference between squids and octopuses from a behavioral perspective is that squid are far more social than octopuses, although octopuses from areas without much shelter have shown communal behaviors, squid actually will swim and hunt in large groups. Both creatures are smart, just in their own ways.

Robin Greer

I've finally caught up to the main feed after over a year. I'mma have to listen to audiobooks now while I wait for more :/

Wandering Giant

Austin Powers Mixed Bag!!

Brandalf The Bae

Home brew some group stealth might add more flavor to this misfit group? Maybe all guards are on passive perception, if you roll below passive they roll to meet/beat. When a guard rolls better then a player they go from passive to active, they are actively seeking the area and do roll offs? I feel like social rolls and stealth rolls should be degrees of success instead of fail/pass. But maybe it’s nice to have it quick and fast without the extra rolls

Petty Jack, yes?

Rachel Indelicato

Omg the first character I made is a battle smith! It was definitely difficult as a first character because there are a lot of nuanced things they can do that I kept forgetting, plus feats I took 🥴. They are dope as heck though, would love to see y’all play as one. ...Still playing as my battle smith if anyone wants to throw some advice my way... lol

Rachel Indelicato

Not that this means much, but I thought Em would have loved to be a Battle Smith Artificer for season two: https://twitter.com/a_real_llama/status/1260380987453661190?s=20 (Definitely missed the mark on Caldwell and Jake)

Paul Llama

As a life long hockey fan... the Detroit octopus stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. If y'all want a really ridiculous story check this out from the playoffs in 2017 where a guy bought a catfish in Tennessee, squished it and vacu-sealed it, drove to Pittsburgh, paid $350 for a ticket, threw it on the ice, and was charged by the police for "interrupting a meeting using an instrument of crime." It's poetry. link 1 - https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nashville-catfish-tosser-charges-dropped-pittsburgh-da-162424214.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAERN5RB7rVAeIa0psoRFaFlPcyRY_LLmVBQ1ouznT-pICZwx-mPat1oZdSSnl2LMa4AXwHNU5yDdnsSV2TD9vDEwUfjls5hCj00Gg7Rof_LKKohg1watXKiRlcOFEn9bPAwm49HSVXX4TCadpV9TYIZMa-YXjHbLCQc0hJBkEkwx link 2- https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/05/30/report-predators-fan-who-threw-catfish-ice-charged-pittsburgh/354356001/

Marty Shaw

My copy of Tasha's was supposed to get here 2 nights ago and I'm still waiting for it :(

1man2hands

Discworld is my favorite series. Absolutely loved each book.

I can't remember which NPC it is, but the one that you guys say sounds like the opposite of Ol' Cobb? That voice sounds like Beetlejuice.

Aidan Skipper-Martinez

I'm soooooooo happy Emily has reading started Terry Pratchett. Caldwell MUST read

D'ran Dana

Thanks for sharing this tentacled trivia! I'll henceforth refrain from throwing any of these beautiful creatures on the hockey rink. ~Caldwell

Not Another D&D Podcast

Also! Emily If you are ever wanting to read a cool nonfiction book, “entangled life” by Merlin Sheldrake is awesome! He goes into detail about all the wonderful things fungus do in the earth and for society

AceOfCascade

Squids are smart y’all! In the marine zoology field, cephalopods like squids, octopus, and cuttlefish all are well known for their intelligence. I feel like people tend to think their not as smart because they don’t “look intelligent” in the same way octopus do. In my experience, people tend to assign a higher level of intelligence to things that can more easily be anthropomorphized

AceOfCascade

Pretty sure Murph will never see this but look up status effects in the Pathfinder 1E system for alternative suggestions for Stunned! There are things like staggered, dazed, etc in there you can mess around with

Matthew Steinmetz

Discworld fan here with some reading suggestions. It's a good thing Emily didn't start with book one, the series doesn't work like that. Rather, there are several series woven together into a mega-series called discworld. Mort is book one of the Death series, and there are more books you can read that follow Susan and Death, they're just not the next books published in the overall discworld series. Book one in publishing order begins the Wizards series, and it's just not as good as what comes after. My two favorite series are the city watch (which begins with 'Guards! Guards!' a wonderful parody of the hero's journey ) and the Lipwig series (Which begins with 'Going Postal' ) because they both heavily feature Lord Vetinari, one of my favorite characters in all of fiction.

Pokeylope

Someone on the subreddit found a math problem about how far an octopus goes on a hockey field's ice. Congrats Jake, your misdeeds made it in textbooks!

Garga Lenoir

plz talk about it in the next short rest hahahahahahaha

At 1:42:10 Jake thanks 'Jack Meoff'

Odds that Lou Wilson joins in with the Choo Choo cree in the future?

Space Cat

You know, being a longtime Pratchett fan, I have always assumed that The Boobs read his books, and now I find out that it's new to you. I am sorry, I have failed the 4 of you. I should have brought his world to you long ago, and will do better in the future...maybe.

DC47

The Nashville Predators throw catfish on the Ice and I could have sworn that’s what Caldwell was thinking of lol

The equivalent spell to Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion would be called The Phantom Tollbooth

John C.

When they talk about Shank is different every time he comes back it definitely gives very strong Mr. Messeks vibes from Rick and Morty.

Logan

As a big Red Wings fan the end of this short rest made me smile so much, I am so glad that there are now others that know about that XD

Broghar The Bugbear

Based on some light internet research, squid intelligence has not been studied as extensively as that in octopi or cuttlefish, but prevailing thought seems to be that they are not as intelligent then their relatives. They still do seem to be fairly intelligent animals though capable of communicating with other squid via changing their colors, and one species of squid as been observed simultaneously communicating separate colors to two different squids!

Adam Pearce

If Emily hasn't seen "My Octopus Teacher," she needs to see it and bawl her eyes out. I saw it and it made me 100% sure that I'll never eat octopus again. Amazing film.

Jess Little

Austin Powers definitely still holds up!

Jack Waters

The shorts over pj pants homebrew solved a problem I was having at that exact moment - you guys rule

SebbitySwooty (Seb K)

Unrelated, but I just want to drop by and say y'all NEED to have Lou Wilson and Ally Beardsley come on as guests. (Having Brennan back would be cool too)

Jacob Buttarazzi

Octopus are EXTREMELY intelligent and squid are less so, but still semi smart animals.

Maggie Reed

Petit Jack sounds like Ol' Cobb if he were a Pebblepot

I'm so glad you're reading Discworld!!! My absolute favourite series ever

Bananksgiving: Return of Funky is next week right?

Snugglegurts

i was gonna huck a dead octopus onto a frozen lake, but decided to have a nice cigarillo instead. thanks, choo choo crew.

I need to know if Emily read the same book that made me also fall in love with octopus. Soul of an Octopus, Emily? WAS IT SOUL OF AN OCTOPUS?!

I Love Not Finishing My Sentences

Home brewing it so a stun or a freeze or something only affects certain limbs so you can’t attack but you might be able to run away, or vice versa, or something like that is how I style things. Like the archer might get his one arm frozen so he can’t shoot or the monk gets her legs frozen so she can’t move so they have to adapt differently

Sawyer Rogers

This whole time I thought “unbutton that top button” meant unbutton your our jeans, not shirt button 😅

Cole Power

Murph getting razzed for his “Homebrewed pants” kills me

Barback of Penance

Wayne's World does NOT hold up

ted_pen

Your podcast have truly been a light in my life especially working on COVID floors at the hospitals. 🥰 Thank yall

Daniel Rodriguez

Peep that Dorohedoro reference, fantastic anime😍😍

Pst uncle I got that anime/manga reference.

GREYFOX!!!!!

Also wanted to shout out a Blade being named Brayden. My parents were way early on the -ayden wave and I rarely ever see my name pop up in media.

Brayden Rittner

You can still use bonus actions when stunned since you're under the incapacitated condition. I believe everyone's action economy this campaign allows them to at least do something every round with a bonus action. Fia or Zirk could squeak off a healing word and Henry could summon or swap places with Shank.

Brayden Rittner

Yes Caldwell love the Dorohedoro reference

Kris Barnes

Octopi may be intelligent but they are bottom feeder and thus the most eco friendly seafood you can eat.

Really excited to hear that Emily is reading Discworld, it's my all-time favorite series and Pratchett has a really interesting take on how witches work and what role they play in society.

Maybe Emily watched Hocus Pocus recently? Those witches are supposed to be scared of salt too!

I'd highly recommend Jake gets the new fighting style in Tasha's- if he wants to use bone claws, great weapon fighting wouldn't work on those, so this keeps his options open!

tacticalgrandma

A good way to solve your disappointing crit problem would be to adopt a house rule I use. Instead of rolling twice on a crit, you take your maximum dice roll (4 on a d4, 6 on a d6, etc) then roll once and add any other modifiers. That keeps you from rolling low damage on a crit. This also goes for enemies though so be careful!

Andrew Estrada

I understand Murph's pocket struggles

Logenthar

Emily I can't recommend the Battlesmith enough! Elka Glittergem is my gnome artificer, with his steel defender Sparky. Super super fun, hopefully you get to play it soon!

ZachDobb

Octopi are intelligent as hell, squids are dumb as hell. You're in the clear, Jake.

The Great Zarquon

So happy that Caldwell also is a man of culture and appreciates Noi. Best girl.

Atlas Earth

Omg Emily I can’t believe you haven’t read Terry Pratchet! I totally assumed your character was based on Equal Rites. You have so many great books ahead of you AND my favorite Christmas movie ever: The Hogfather!!

Melissa Titus

Conkwell Tonker is my new Gnome Artificer

Joe

Phantom Maze is my favorite Star Wars

Debra Wasson

The color of magic and Light Fantastic are hands-down my favorite, though! But they are all really high quality imo

This one is filled with lots of good bits and fun contemplations! Also, Caldwell, the Noi reference - very accurate giving the picture Emily painted.

evanescent

Athletic shorts and pj pants together is a Choice

Beta

Squids are dumber than octopuses but smarter than many other animals.

Robert

My wife works at an aquarium and confirms that squids are dumb as hell.

Wretched Pie

Very important question: Conkwell, what did you think of Nathan's drawing of you as Tasha?

Emily

Emily, so excited that you are reading Discworld! They are so much fun. I highly recommend Guards! Guards! It is the best one that I have read and starts if a great sub-series of books. Plus you get to meet Carrot, whose backstory has some overlaps with Hardwon (like raised by Dwarves).

James Lloyd

Love the Terry Prattchet shout out! Some of the best books ever written!

Ian Dack

Sooo happy Emilie is reading Terry Pratchett! If you really enjoy Death, their next book is Reaper Man. Sounds like you're reading in release order but keep in mind the early books were written in the 80s! The further in you get the better they get, even Terry said his early books are not his best work

Lara

How would that be possible? The shorts have the pockets and not the pants. Unless you're talking about pulling the pants to the side by the waistband any time you want to reach into the pockets. Wait why am I seriously discussing this?

tyalaman

Why doesn’t murph just wear the shorts under the pajama pants? Couldn’t he still use the pockets this way?

Lauren

I can confirm that squids are, indeed, dumb ass hell.

Zoe Bernhardt

Squids ARE dumb as hell (I’ve also been bitten by one so I could be biased)

Do Emily and murph record separately?

Spam gaming the not so skilled gamer (thanks jake)

it does make sense that the choo choo crew have to buff each other because they can't be powered by Hardwon's massive quads

Chris Reisine

I was ready to comment about the Red Wings hahaha absolutely loved the Olive Garden shaming.

Nye-Low

Back when the alaska aces still existed, people would throw fish heads onto the ice after they scored the first time. Everybody fishes so it was very easy to obtain fish heads without being wasteful. They would have an announcement after the first throw that was like "ok, that was rad once, but remember not to throw things on the ice after this!"

Kailie Hind

What about twocrew the vaping dragon?

Jack

Chode rose. A chose if you will hahah

Pontifex

Emilonk Onkbonk

Cj Ferrigno

I'm playing a battlesmith/gunslinger in my latest campaign and BOY HOWDY y'all I'm loving it

Having grown up going to Red Wings games, I can tell you people sneak them into the arena in down their pants 🐙

Katie Oyama

Can I offer another book recommendation? Emily, I think you would love Naomi Novik’s Uprooted. It’s inspired by Slavic folk stories.

Erin

DUNCLE CALDWELL, DUNCLE CALDWELL, I got the Dorohedoro reference.

clevername

I got a strong Beetlejuice vibe from Petty Jack

Vince Mascoli

Caldwell I understand the Dorohedoro reference.

squids are smart, you fools

H-Train

Terry Pratchett is amazing! I was so lucky to meet him!

BonesBoy

Murph has his work cut out for him this campaign. Smarter more savvy players with clever classes....let’s go dungeon daddy- MAKE THEM SUFFER

Eagledink

Im from buffalo and the bills are gonna win the Super Bowl one of these years I swear

James Wagner

Love u guys

Welcome back to Shonk Ronk

Aidan Boyle

Hank Hogfish? More like Noob Saibot

Zhade

Excited to hear what bonk, zonk, and honk thought about the episode!

wilson menary

Nice

Matthew K