🖖Star Trek DS9 S01E08 Full Length Reaction
Added 2025-02-09 01:27:06 +0000 UTCS01E08 Dax
I asked for a Dax episode and here it is! I'm glad I saw this one, it helped me understand the Trill a lot better than I had previously - though there are still some unanswered questions and I hope we delve even further into it in the future! Engage! 🖖
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I haven’t watched some of these in 30 years lol I watch my favorites from time to time but these other episodes I’ve forgotten! I’m basically do a rewatch with your reactions. I wish we could watch more every week!
Bobby Coolbreeze
2025-03-04 00:05:00 +0000 UTCI am so sorry for your loss 🌹
Jen M
2025-02-14 17:43:24 +0000 UTCMy wife of 17 years died without warning 6 days ago, your Star Trek content is one of the few things bringing me any joy at the moment. Thank you for that.
Just another Red Shirt
2025-02-14 14:20:58 +0000 UTCIt's not parisitism; it's symbiosis. The symbiont is losing as much of its autonomy as you are. You influence it as much as it influences you.
Nicholas Webb
2025-02-10 05:03:29 +0000 UTCIt might create a diplomatic incident, considering how many times they say that General Tandro is a martyr to the current government. It's hard to say how many people his son actually represents who want to see his killer punished. But you're right: what the hell does Bajor care about justice for some allies of the Cardassians? It's a good point.
Jonas Buckner
2025-02-10 04:15:39 +0000 UTC"She needs another nap." Vodka. All over my keyboard.
Ortizmo
2025-02-10 01:41:54 +0000 UTCThis could've been such a tedious episode, but the Bajoran judge's sassiness and your constant quips about her taking naps during each break really made it entertaining. Thank you Jen! :D
Fr. Brench
2025-02-09 23:56:51 +0000 UTCAh yes thanks, she played the assistant, not the judge. Very memorable lady though!
George Foot
2025-02-09 23:20:26 +0000 UTCBut why allow the extradition? Bajor's only real concern here is whether Dax is a danger to Bajoran society (e.g. a secret murderer waiting to strike again) - assuming they don't think she is a threat, they might as well not allow the extradition. The foreign policy implications should be minor for them, the Klaestron are not exactly their friends, and really this is just one guy with a vendetta, not something the Klaestron government would create a diplomatic incident over.
George Foot
2025-02-09 23:18:50 +0000 UTCI agree about the music - I don't think it is militaristic, I'd instead describe it as majestic, regal, and wondrous.
George Foot
2025-02-09 23:11:35 +0000 UTCI didn't realize it til today that the guy that plays Quark is also the principal on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Joe Blankenship
2025-02-09 23:10:37 +0000 UTCNot a fan of this Trill business. You're sticking a big nasty worm in your gut and surrendering your autonomy. Who the hell would want that?
Joe Blankenship
2025-02-09 22:06:19 +0000 UTCNot a spoiler, but the opening credits change, too. Just like in TNG where the first few seasons had the Enterprise near Saturn, that later evolved to a more exotic ringed planet. DS9 gets a spiffy uograde, too. One thing that changes in the credits is the name of the actor playing Dr. Julian Bashir. He has used a variety of stage names in his career. Did you know he was the nephew of Malcolm McDowell - star of A Clockwork Orange AND the Star Trek: Generations movie???
John DiGiantomasso
2025-02-09 21:39:25 +0000 UTCGood point. Yet, could refer to other jurisdictions as non-binding but informative.
Clay F
2025-02-09 21:34:47 +0000 UTCOk, who spoiled that the theme gets modified? Not cool.
Phil Kelly
2025-02-09 18:51:28 +0000 UTCThe biggest issues legally was this was being held in a Bajoran Court and they have never dealt with this before. I mean hell, they're still in tribunal mode recovering from the Occupation. They just didn't have the precidents to help inform them.
Shaun Rosado
2025-02-09 18:15:18 +0000 UTCTypical lifespan for a Trill Symbiont is measured by centuries. Dax's current age of 300 is young/just middle aged IIRC.
Shaun Rosado
2025-02-09 18:13:19 +0000 UTCI can understand that. And it's a pretty subtle reveal. 🙂
Opti_Frog
2025-02-09 17:48:18 +0000 UTCI'm also unsure how long a Symbiont lives, it may be mentioned at some point. I know eventually they desire to return to the spawning pools to procreate, so perhaps that's when they finally die. Regardless, they'd live for many hundreds of years - maybe a dozen lifetimes?
Laura Thornley
2025-02-09 16:47:59 +0000 UTCThe Symbiont's brainwaves would certainly change between hosts - as they are the ones who store the memories of previous hosts to share them with the current host. Every new host changes the symbiont as much as the host is changed by the symbiont. Its why the symbionts want to be joined - to learn and experience the world in a way they never could in their latent form.
Laura Thornley
2025-02-09 16:33:35 +0000 UTCI wasn't sure I got it right. Sometimes I don't say things out loud if I'm not 100% sure if I'm right. I've been insulted too many times.
Jen M
2025-02-09 15:52:31 +0000 UTCSuch a good episode. It reminds me of "Measure of a man" in TNG. Anyone who disses the first or second season of a trek show seems to undervalue the foundational work they lay for the more "exciting" stuff later on.
Zork
2025-02-09 14:04:58 +0000 UTCI didn't really remember this episode but had a feel for it. I agree would think there would be more legal precedent out there in how to deal with this situation. I also thought it was striking the description of Jadzia as young independent woman earning those degrees and contributing to society BEFORE she became Jadzia Dax. Yet, legally or morally (and in which jurisdictions), what assumption of risk did Jadzia assume when becoming Jadzia Dax? I like the intro music. Majestic. Love the brass.
Clay F
2025-02-09 12:19:21 +0000 UTCThe theme ... for me ... isn't about attention, it's about coming home to DS9 after being away for too long.
Manny
2025-02-09 10:53:39 +0000 UTCI hear you humming that theme now. Keep it up. It helps with the syncing 😂
Julian San
2025-02-09 10:32:12 +0000 UTCHappy next Jen Sunday 🖖 Wow Jen your choice of lipstick colour is 🔥 and done flawlessly 👌 regarding the episode it's great to get some back story on dak and odo and quark scenes are always amusing 🙂 I do wish people would stop saying you learn more about ..... In future episodes etc you may consider them not spoilers but they are so please just Don't do it ty
Ian
2025-02-09 10:04:31 +0000 UTCYes, the Theme Song will change at season 4. And if you don't want to get spoilered close your eyes during the theme Song in Season 4 Episode 1. But that's the future. Enjoy the first seasons of DS9.
Thorsten Schwarz
2025-02-09 10:00:23 +0000 UTCGood episode! Honestly, I barely remembered what happened in this DS9 episode with Jadzia Dax, so I'm glad I got to revisit it along with your reaction. There are definitely some episodes that are a bit fuzzy for me, but plenty that I remember really well. I haven't rewatched TOS, TAS, DS9, Voyager, or Enterprise nearly as many times as I've watched TNG all the way through. As for the newer Star Trek shows—Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks, Prodigy, and Strange New Worlds (which is on its third season now and premieres this summer—I cannot wait!)—I've only watched them all the way through once so far. Well, except for a few episodes I've already rewatched, but I'll definitely be revisiting all of them again at some point. Lol. Funny how two of the guest stars in this episode were also in TNG—totally forgot they showed up in DS9! And yeah, Curzon/Jadzia Dax has such an interesting backstory. I can't wait for you to learn more about the Trill and their homeworld in future episodes—you're in for some great stuff!
The Star Treker (aka Michael)
2025-02-09 09:25:02 +0000 UTCThe theme is better on rewatches, this is an important episode since everyone works together to help a Starfleet officer
Harmony through Time
2025-02-09 08:52:03 +0000 UTCExcellent guest stars in this episode. I haven't seen Fionnula Flanagan in much other than How The West Was Won and The Others, but she's always good value. But... did Jen miss that the identity of the traitor was revealed? I was expecting some kind of reaction. 😅
Opti_Frog
2025-02-09 08:47:24 +0000 UTCThe judge played the wife Rishon in the season 3 episode of TNG Survivors. She wasn't as feisty then, just liked to serve tea lol.....I cracked up each time u mentioned the judge needing a nap LOL
Lee R.
2025-02-09 05:28:50 +0000 UTCYou sure could pull of a Jadzia Dax costume with some ease. Halloween episode?
Whiskey61 .
2025-02-09 05:01:51 +0000 UTCminor spoiler alert or not spoiler alert ( i'm 46 i'm not of the generation lol) there's going to be an eppisode later on that dives into the trill homeworld. i found it fascinating, but that's " my take" all have thier own take, gn
Struzzylive
2025-02-09 04:26:51 +0000 UTCHonestly, if the penalty wasn't death, it might be harder to justify preventing extradition. Other than general objections to the death penalty, it's only really objectionable because Jadzia would have to be killed to kill the Dax symbiont. The same is true of any punishment, but if the Klaestron courts were inclined to finding an appropriate punishment for a Trill inside a new host, it'd be a lot less dire to allow her to go stand trial. Also, while it would have been useful to know what the Trill do in this situation, this hearing was operating under Bajoran law, so the precedents from any other culture wouldn't apply. They would just be a point of interest, because presumably the Bajorans have their own answers to complex questions of personhood, even if they've never had them for Trill specifically.
Jonas Buckner
2025-02-09 04:17:07 +0000 UTCOne thing I always found odd about this episode that no one ever bothered to ask the Trill how this would be handled on their home world. Surely something like this has happened before among Trill, and there is research and legislation for that. (Without getting into spoiler territory, the answer to this question can at least be inferred at a later point, but I think this early in the series the writers hadn't fully figured out how the joined Trill would work themselves, so they leave the question kinda unanswered for now.)
Kat
2025-02-09 03:59:59 +0000 UTCWe do eventually learn about all the previous Dax hosts, but at this point, the only one mentioned by name is Curzon.
Sykonee
2025-02-09 03:42:39 +0000 UTCI don't think they've told us how many previous hosts Dax has had before. Maybe they'll fill in some details later...tomorrow never knows!
Banes
2025-02-09 03:36:32 +0000 UTCYeah, she played Jim Carrey's assistant in Liar Liar. And she was in...Mrs. Doubtfire too. That lady had a hot streak in her career at that time, good on 'er! She was really good.
Banes
2025-02-09 03:35:36 +0000 UTCIt's clear now that Dax is a father figure to Sisko.
Mark Chrisco
2025-02-09 03:34:39 +0000 UTCSince you said you already know, yes, they do update the theme song in a later season, and IMO they definitely improve upon it.
John Luck
2025-02-09 03:30:26 +0000 UTCThe judge also played the wife in the TNG episode The Survivors.
Kristin D
2025-02-09 02:45:23 +0000 UTCI'm getting ready to fly a red eye home from Alaska. Thank you for giving me something to enjoy before I have to hit the airport this week. Love me some DS9 & TNG!
Fanchman
2025-02-09 02:41:32 +0000 UTCThey will stand at attention but there is no salute, Starfleet has never had salutes as far as I can remember. I think that says a lot about the nature of Starfleet as being not specifically a military institution, but is an exploratory one at its core, but still having a hierarchical command structure
Vina
2025-02-09 02:39:22 +0000 UTCI always found this a very interesting episode, exploring the implications of the Trill beyond what was briefly covered in TNG. One thing I wonder if you missed here - the actual crime and who was responsible - Enina Tandro mentioned it very briefly to Dax at the end, it sounds like her husband was going to defect or something like that but the enemy killed him instead - and Enina and Dax agreed to cover up the truth. It's an interesting kind of anticlimax! Something else I wondered - is that judge the same judge from Liar Liar? She looks very familiar!
George Foot
2025-02-09 02:39:03 +0000 UTC
