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Compromise

Last couple of days we had an active discussion about a male protagonist(mp for short). We don't want to ignore the players who supported us from the beginning, but we also don't want to delay the game's development or try to fit a square mp in a round story. Thankfully, we are making a sandbox, so we can try to compromise. A lot of content in the game is going to be unisex and we can add mp for those parts.

Now, about the compromises:

First of all, the main story is still going to revolve around Kate.

Some of the game's jobs (being a maid, for example) and locations (beauty salons) are still going to be unavailable for mp.

We're obviously not going to spend our time designing a bunch of clothes for mp. I don't think anyone wants to see mp running around the house in nothing but his underwear. Not us, not players, and not even Julia :)

Mp won't have every seduction tool available for Kate. I'm sure you don't want to see mp “accidentally” drop his pen and bend over to pick it up so another character can look up his skirt. This is just a random example, btw, I'm not saying anything like this is or isn't going to be in the game.

So, you're probably wondering, is there anything good in mp playthrough besides, well, playing as mp? Yes, we're going to rework dates for mp. Fp (I'll let you figure this one out for yourselves) will also be able to date—and she'll even be able to choose between men and women—but the dating process is going to be different. Guys are usually the ones chasing gals, not the other way around (unless it's two girls, of course, then one of them will have no choice but chase another one). Mp won't have a story to untangle, but he'll still be able to go to college, seduce teachers and students, change college's rules and many other sandbox elements of the game.

To sum everything up: playing as Kate is going to be a story mode, and playing as mp is going to be side sandbox datesim mode.

We will try to add mp in one of the future versions of the game (0.2 or 0.3) and we'll add more functionality to it if players will like it.

Compromise

Comments

What's the point in the MP then? If there's not going to be any story then it just seems like a pointless waste of time. I voted for a MP but if I'd known that this is what it would get us then I would've voted against it. Those render times could be used to give us more content. If it was a dating sim that people were looking for, they'd just go to LOP or S&G For said games and actually get story with it. I thought you would have learned your lesson from that previous game and stuck to your guns when it comes big decisions.

TroopJunior

I'm just gonna say I hope these 2 in the pic have lots of fun together... just sayin.

Tranquil Chewy

I think you should focus on FP , MP is just waste of time and less content for main story.

Сильвер, вы уже один раз пошли на поводу общественности и сами потом признали, что это было ошибкой. Когда художник творит, он не спрашивает мнения. он работает с душой. P.S. В конце концов - "колхоз - дело добровольное"

I wasn't really keen on the idea of a female mc, but I made the decision to give it a chance, after getting my head around that, I decided not to vote in the poll and hoped sincerely you would just go with your own plan. I must admit, signs are concerning. My pledge is not a large one, so I'm committed to stay on until 0.3. after that I will make a decision on whether keep pledging. To be clear.. I still don't think I will be interested in playing as a female MC, but I want to give you a chance to prove me wrong on that. also, I'm guessing this has been a stressful time for you and you team, hope you are all doing well.

This is a horrible decision plain and simple. Now not only is the main story content going to be cut into in place of this MP nonsense, you've just now set a precedent for kowtowing to a few loudmouths even before 0.1 is released. Sweet.....

Conviction07

I like your OG idea its a change of pace and gives the ladies something too. I for one just hope there are tons of male NPCs she's a Sliz in my book!

will1977

I still think this compromise is a mistake, you change your game to please a minority who didn't even try it yet. But I guess, you take other things in consideration and it's your game. But I still think that I suck: You advertising Glamour like a Game innovative with FMC. It's not designated to be with a MMC so it's not going to be so great playing a male, so people are going to complain "Why they are moire option with FMC? Nananananan". So I think it's counter productive. But it's your and team choice. PS: After the poll vote not many patreon go so I guess they deal with it no?

Logrent

But it's not a splitting at all. All story happens with female, how it was planned initially

Yeah, I agree with you

I tend to have a mc as a bonus. If it's not there, no problem with me. :)

Steele76

I'm a patron DS, because your product is interesting, sexy, and high quality. I'm convinced your future efforts (regardless of details) will continue provide products with those qualities. Be careful not to get too mired in empathy with the minority (trust to the survey), and press ahead with your new endeavor. Build a good game and "they" will come....

I'd much rather see this effort put into making the FP content better. Splitting priorities rarely ends well.

You could always make an 'mp' rout as you surgest with the ability to "sissy-fy" the mp in order to access the 'fp' content. Just a surgestion ;)

Zilver Fox

Дарк, хоть раз сделай игру такой, какой её хочешь видеть ты и твоя команда. И потом уже сравни, как получается лучше - с оглядкой на мнение игроков, или по своему вкусу. Но раз уж ты сейчас принял такой решение, то в качестве эксперимента можно попробовать. Думаю, это лишь ещё больше убедит людей, что мужской ГГ здесь не нужен.

@Dark Silver will there be any sex content?

Elijah

Jesus, poor guy can't do anything without catching shit for it.

Kobold Lad

Какая нах разница какой у гг пол, если геймплея нет :D А вообще ребята правы, надо делать игру так, как ты её видишь - а не подстраиваться под каждого встречного/поперечного, ибо получиться не Гламур, а очередное....

Katsuni

DS should of just made a game similar to BB, without i****** wouldn't have had none of this shit and kept all patrons. no mater what people say BB was one of the most popular of its type, and popular for a reason not just renders, also all the most popular games are male main characters.

This is a mistake. Now I know how you operate, comprising your game integrity just to please the minority. What was the point of the vote? It's not the fact you are shoehorning a male into the game but that you will change it at a whim. Good luck with your game. Good bye.

Martyn

might start getting some patrons back now, or you could end up like most female main character games 1500 patrons

No male char.

BoomBoom

Now this is more like it DS :)

Bobbo69

I agree at 100% with crash you once again make the same mistake as for BB your real patreon, the one who rly like your games and support you would never ask you to compromise! Personnally it just feel like you have no guts and you are afraid to lose some pledge but who care (you shouldn t) you will lose some anyway, it s impossible to please everyone.

I think that you are running in a big failure if you follow some advices from other people. They aren't devs they don't know what makes a game a good game. Think about, there was a time with eric and your project gowed and the crowd was amazed. Because you know how to make games not they! So there are many people waiting for female prod and they will pledge you also. Please, good games were done because they were made there own way not the crowd way!

Cost of this "compromise" is very low for us, so development time will be the same. I hope you will change your mind.

I've been pledged to your patreon since the beginning and was disappointed when you gave in to the vocal minority to change BB's story. Before the first version Glamour is even released you said you would make the game how you wanted but now a several days later you're caving in to complaints from nonpatreons on discord to make the game how they want. Well I'm not going to stay pledged watching the same routine happen to this game too. Good luck Dark Silver

RKrispy

Like this idea. Looking forward to seeing the game when it's ready. I'll lob a tip your direction while I have a deeper look at all posts and decide whether the game is for me, and maybe become a proper supporter.

Wolfhound

If the mp is going to be additional content and take away time from the actual game you want to create, put him behind a pay wall. Some of us don't mind a female protagonist and I would rather have more content per update than less content just so we can fit in a male protagonist.

Thanks for letting us know prior to the end of the month so I can vote with my wallet. I’ll most likely revisit this game around the holidays, but I’m starting to see the same warning signs I saw with BB with trying to cater to the masses rather than sticking to the original plan and I feel that the production will now be comprised due to adding unplanned content.

shmerlin33

Honestly this doesnt sound bad, sandbox do what you want is good enough

Bass

I think it's a mistake. I want a mp but only if he's the real protagonist of the story if he doesn't you will not please neither those who want a mp nor those who want a fmp. Well it's just my opinion ofc.

flanby

This sounds like a really good idea, in my opinion. Wish you guys the best and hope this solution satisfies people :)

Jakob Bank


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