Present and future of GGGB

Sorry that growth has been a bit slow, but I'm proud of you for keeping at it and being so determined to finish the game!!

Black Fox Lingerie

Hey, seems like someone else is monetizing your work on patreon. Unless you have some kind of arrangement with Mia Phillip (/miagamehouse), they're stealing your (and also looks like other people's) content Also, I'd be slightly suspicious of this Mia Sugar person in the comment above. She has commented on nearly every stolen game I've seen so far.

Nameless One

Hi Eva Kiss! I would like to talk about Russian translation of your game. Can you hit me a dm?

Rosch

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REdMachine

Since I can't find a way to contact you directly, I'll just leave a comment here and maybe you'll see it. I won't go into detail, but I'd be happy to answer your call for help and discuss things with you. It's kinda what I do -well, one of the things anyway. XD Here's a link for more information: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwdev/comments/9a0kfg/nsfw_marketing_and_now_testing_services_update/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwdev/comments/9a0kfg/nsfw_marketing_and_now_testing_services_update/</a>

Locke Kosta

i think you should focus on properly finishing GGGB and then move onto something a bit more ambitious ... that being said, i really love this game and would love to see it to a good ending ! keep up the good world and remember we love you dev !

Yaxir

I like this idea. Eric usually dies, maybe she could keep him alive this way making him stay? And I love the idea of her going dom. IRL I love the idea of being dominated by a woman.

Matt Gorman

Awesome news, keep up!

Funkie - Adult Games Dev.

As others have mentioned, what makes the game intriguing is watching a good girl fall from grace. Once she's fallen, it just becomes sex without any of the extra layers. But now that Ash has already fallen, the game can remain interesting by corrupting those around her. Early in the game, the player is able to lead Eva down a path of corruption. And in v20, you answered my prayer and gave us Slut-Iris (seriously, she looks amazing). Maybe look at corrupting others around Ash. We know Ash's mom already has a bit of a kinky side, maybe Ash could be a bad influence on her mom and make her even more depraved. You've hinted that Eric is turned on by his girlfriend's lewdness (saying he'd never been harder than when Ash told him of her infidelity). Maybe Ash could full-on cuck him and enter a bit of a femdom relationship with him? And Jessica was already a bit wild, and we've had the opportunity to rehabilitate her or get even more wild with her? Maybe we could have the opportunity to corrupt her even more. Now that Ash has been corrupted, the game can stay fresh by bringing those around her down to her level.

TommyTheDude

I wouldn't commission the art out if I where you it always leads to development problems. Really please don't I like your game because of content but also because of frequent releases.

PopCultureOfficionado

я считаю, что игра себя не изжила, просто ей нужен глоток свежего воздуха, какой-то поворот событий (вне зависимости Плохая Эшли девочка или хорошая). я обожаю эту игру, есть очень многое количество идей и если автор захочет их услышать, я буду рад ему помочь. и еще дополню, что не стоит зацикливаться на одной игре, если есть идеи сделать еще что-то очень крутое, тогда сделай это. Но об этой игре забывать еще слишком рано

bLazer

Was thinking you said one point you couldn't outsource much, then I got thinking how about getting someone to make backgrounds. It may be just my opinion but think it would make a diffference, since for some scenes perspective doesn't really fit with backgrounds, imagine because you probably use picture backgrounds you tint and edit to look more like drawn backgrounds. But think getting someone to do make over and perspective to backgrounds would add bit extra maybe to said polish at end.

DanishGuy37

But I just saw Eric can live...

Matt Gorman

I'd still also like to see her take care of the landwhale. She is such a bitch and so ugly.

Matt Gorman

You have a gift for storytelling and for creatign porn that doesn't feel exploitative, and as such I will be with you on your next project. I wouldn't even mind a genre project, like an erotic fantasy adventure. My only worry is you delegating on art - the art is one of the thign that this game so much better than any other in the genre. I would be very sad if art quality had to decrease. I'd rather a smaller game than another game full of Poser art (shudder)

CassietheFriendlySuccubus

I agree, Totoro, but the way that people leak the preview, alpha and beta versions of the game, I think it does more harm than good. If there was only one version leaking, fine, but all versions leak, even those full of bugs.

VK

As curious as it could be... I'm here because i found the game in another place, where i found an Android version of the game. And I'm currently playing the other place version of the game (quite underupdated, I'm stuck at V 0.16) because it's difficult for me to play it on a PC. In my case I became a patreon to support the game I like (even being unable to play official versions of the game), and I suport other games that I can easily find without paying. Piracy makes some people get things for free, but as you said, also is a kind of publicity.

Totoro

You have an incredible storytelling ability so any project you engage in will catch and hold interest. You hinted at a different medium and I have long held out on asking about moving this game to another style. It is my hope that you do engage a new artistic style to tell the next story. Thanks for it all.

Arthur

I agree. When you give him a heads up, I feel like he should be able to win!

Taylor Hopkins

I wish there was an option to not go with the gangsters without Dave getting beat up.

Matt Gorman

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who are into porn and not infidelity. Everyone has their own quirks. Plus, pretty sure you have the option to break up with Eric so it isn't even infidelity at that point.

V

Usually those sort don't like porn, either...

Matt Gorman

It centers around infidelity, which is morally abhorrent to a great deal of people.

dus tea

Not really a fetish...

Matt Gorman

dus tea

I sort of agree to a point with you BUT I believe the big decrease is indicative of Patreon right at the moment. All creators almost are seeing a hit, the site has made one bad decision after another that has effected everything from payment processing, trust in the site, visibility of projects, etc. It has created an environment that is a lot more turbulent for creators, especially adult content creators.

nghtmr103

I actually only found it due to TPB. It was a broken rar so I googled and found it here.

Matt Gorman

Sad to hear that GGGB is reaching an end, but I respect your decision and I'll support whatever you choose to do next. You're right about people being here because of the porn. As much as I love your writing, I'm here to fap. Hope your next game will also involve a lot of girl cheating on her man. As for the decrease of income you've been experiencing on the last couple of months, I'm of the idea that the piracy is to blame here. I do think that piracy might work as a way of making people aware of the game, but not the way it leaks to the public on this game. You release the preview and it leaks on the next/same day, the same thing happens with the alpha and beta versions. Piracy could a positive thing if not all the preview/alpha/beta versions leaked. There is no need to leak them on the exact same date that Eva releases them. To whoever is leaking all the versions: respect Eva's hard work and your co-patrons' money, man. It isn't cool to leak alpha, beta and even the previews versions of the game. I would have no problem if you only leaked the final versions, but leaking every content isn't fair.

VK

I don't have any connections with either creative team personally but Venus Noir and Hreinn Games both have very good projects with fantasy a setting. The central theme of both is corruption. Each has branching paths and a variety of fetishes. One has a male protagonist, the other female.

ArtNstory

Especially in adult games.

Matt Gorman

Good luck! Excited to see how all the different paths end.

V

I'll be glad to see it have real endings. They are really abrupt as is. Not really interested in a fantasy sort of game though. I'm one of the people who has never seen game of thrones and isn't even slightly interested.

Matt Gorman

I completely support all of your decisions and I like your plans :) Do take time off when you need it. No one can go on like a steamroller. You owe it to yourself to live your life to the fullest :) It will be good to cap the story when appropriate, and by that I mean when Ashley has resolved the conflicts that defined the start of her story: graduating (or not), finding a job (or not), moving out and becoming independent (or not) and so forth. I absolutely love the sources you want to draw inspiration from. Game of Thrones / Song of Ice and Fire is a riveting world, and the Witcher is one of the best stories I've ever experienced. The narrative and the choice - consequence element are the most important things I look for in games; I just can't wait to see what you'll come up with! Contrary to popular expectations, I for one am not here 'just' for the porn. It's certainly something thing I do look forward to, but without all the other elements it's just meaningless. Conversely, an adult story without adult entertainment is still good enough to follow; it's just not as good as it could've been ;) All the best for your future projects!

Robert Arctor

Female protagonists are rare. Well written female protagonists even more so. So here's hoping for female main character/s in the future too :)

Breadloaf

Thank you for this awesome game. I hope you're going with a female protagonist again in your new game.

Moddy

I dig it. On the fantasy theme though, that's a thematic sharp turn. I'm curious what you've got lined up but two notes on that: - A fantasy theme is hard to make work in a medium like this. Because a fantasy world is so distinct from normal life, you will need to do a lot of worldbuilding, while a game like this depends mostly on character building and drama. You start the game having to give the player an instruction manual. I notice many content creators fall into a trap here where they end up doing (or having to do) overexposition. You end up bombarding the player with basically a wiki page on an alternate reality, and they tune out like they're reading the terms of service to an apple update. The more "creative" creators get about this - with inventing fake behind the scenes conflicts that happened, inventing races, making up names from seemingly a random generator etc - the more players have to chew through before they get to the actual game, and *the less the world and its characters are relatable to the player*. A huge part of GGGB's success I think, was because it was to an extent realistic, and parts of it for many players lived experiences. I think a perfect balance going down this path would keep exposition down to a minimum, no narrator or anything, but rather work off implications. I also think you should be careful not to lose the spotlight on characters to some high fantasy epic plot, if that's coming up. - fantasy themes require a fantastical amount of graphical assets. What do you need for a game with a setting like GGGB? Character images, some generic modern backgrounds, and you're set. With fantasy you will need to create lots of unique assets for characters and props, *just to generate some of those backgrounds*. If you're not an artist you'll be looking at an impractical ambition or a spending spree on a game asset store, though if you're an artist like you say I can imagine how this can be a zen exercise in flexing some creative muscle.

TheDers

So first of all, thank you sooo much Eva for your awesome game i can not imagine what the Ending of GGGB would be like but maybe just maybe you can make a big face reveal in the end (only if you want) because i would really love to see the genius behind this game and like you said you need a break everyone will understand if there is a 1 month break from the updates Lots of love Martin

Martin

I like your ideas, a game like the old Dragon Age or Mass Effects would be really cool. I really enjoyed the old Bioware games, it told a good *ADULT* story and didn't shy away from the adult themes like sex. There was no censoring until the very end. And the Witcher games and even the Game of Thrones series are pretty similar in that regard. Wishing you all the best!

Samus101

also when it comes to the endings, will they be an epilogue 1 year later type thing or will it be just ending on the then and now.

BrightHeart

Very interesting to read, and you certainly deserve a vacation! Except help such as coders, artists and such I'd advice you to have (at least part time) a community manager. The cost for having someone working at least some hours on keeping the community alive and PR would probably be well worth it when it comes to your increased long term income. I'd just like to add that your next project could very well be a shorter one (and if you add a character creation screen a lot of the customization/body modification that happens during gameplay here could be added directly, as something of a backstory), and that you should let your endings take the time you need. Considering the amount of story and varied plot threads I personally more or less expect the endings to require more than one months work... ... And fantasy and porn can be combined. Just saying :)

Breadloaf

Creating a Discord is a really good idea. It sucks to see GGGB ending soon but I've enjoyed it a lot and look forward to what you do next. 😘

mannitt

for the Call for help. Perhaps getting in touch with Crushstation of Female agent to help give Ideas about marketing the game. I feel they've done incredible work when it comes to that aspect.

BrightHeart

You have created as many of us on here would agree with me, the most superb in depth adult game out there and you are one of a kind ! a complete work of genius ! but as they say all good things must come to an end... even the good girl that goes bad :) once again well done for providing hours of enjoyment for many, many people :)

John smith