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EP 41: THE SUBSTANCE

Alex and Kay are deeply disturbed and emotionally exhausted by the best movie of 2024.

Music creds to Slic

EP 41: THE SUBSTANCE EP 41: THE SUBSTANCE

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late to the game but i’m cracking tf up at kay getting mad at alex for passing out at the gym and yelling get up. reminded me of when i fell off a rock climbing wall (my first and last time trying to climb) and sprained my ankle and my sister was like “get up!! what are you doing get up?!!”

Laura

i just got around to watching the substance and yeah that shit fucked me up (in a good way) as kay described it. also you guys said ginger men are always gay and now i’m scared bc i have a crush on a ginger twink that i’m hoping is bisexual so i have a chance

mae

Just watched the substance, and now listening to the review. I agree on such a deep level with K, that while the movie’s theme, is not original, this movie is the first I’ve seen to actually successfully communicate it. To the point that it affected me emotionally in a way that no other movie ever has. I think the main reason for this is that Elizabeth is portrayed as a victim, to both beauty standards, and to Sue, but in the same breath, she is depicted as the perpetrator. She is the one carrying out this process, she is the one doing this to herself. Elizabeth and Sue, are one. Abuser and victim are one. It holds the audience accountable for their desires and habits that they may share with Elizabeth. Like Kay, I left the movie feeling a sense of guilt. I have been just as guilty of hating myself and my body as Elizabeth has. It’s the harsh truth that when you so deeply want to be different or ‘better’ you’re rejecting your current self, you’re making it ‘harder to feel like you matter, like you deserve to live.’ To quote that weird old guy that was also the hot doctor. It’s the best (and maybe most literal) ‘man vs self’ conflict I’ve ever seen in film. The whole movie was just a slap in the face reminding me to be kind to myself as corny as that sounds

Navilyn West

Also the scene with Dennis Quid eating was the most disgusting scene I've seen 😳 the 2nd underlying tone of the industry/managers was great

Shelby

Speaking of Shutter did yall watch Skinamarink?

Shelby

every time one of them says “if you made this far,” I laugh cause of course I made it this far

Ethan Velez

Just finished Helter Skelter and it’s so good omg such a good follow up to The Substance. Tysm

Majik

took your advice and saw the substance today - absolutely incredible!!! i also saw it as a commentary about mothers (elisabeth) who are jealous of their daughters (sue) and try to live vicariously through them. the final act was so cathartic and i haven’t stopped thinking about it since

elise

Just saw "The Substance" today and after it ended everyone just got up and left. There was no conversation, no lolly-gagging, just an intense need to exit the theater. One thing about the movie that kept lighting up something in my mind is how similar it is to the original version of "The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde!" And though the stories are more dissimilar than they are similar, the clarity that was "Remember, you are one. There is no she." was relieving considering how many people have misinterpreted the former work. (Which was clear about the same principle imo! It just got lost in all of the reworks of it.) It's not two different women! It's the same woman. There is just physicality to her intensely negative view of herself, but no one different.

AJ Macon

Started reading, thanks for the rec !!

Majik

ginger lesbian representation let’s gooo

elise

You guys should check out Stopmotion. It came out early this year and is like the substance but struggling about artistic freedom. The main character makes stop motion films with her mom and feels completely reliant on her. The movie’s about her destroying herself trying to deviate from her mother’s control. It’s also a mix between the live action reality and the stop motion film that she is creating. It’s definitely for a smaller crowd but i loved it.

BussyMaster

I completely agree that Chappel needs to disengage with her audience now. Too many people got way too comfortable in their para social relationship with her. It's sad but it's probably the only thing that will mediate what is happening. We can't have nice things, unfortunately. Hoards of entitled people will find a way to ruin it. She deserves peace.

flyingrat

Absolutely loved the substance was excited to hear your takes!

Allie

The god mode ring is so real because I wanna play the single player game I bought the way I wanT it’s fuN

Undercooked

Okay now we need a joker review

e8lyn

you guys should check out the manga Helter Skelter by Kyoko Okazaki! from its blurb—“After cutting-edge full-body plastic surgery, supermodel Liliko’s career is white-hot. But as her body begins to break down, she grows desperate and unhinged, lashing out as she realizes her expiration date as a product of pop-culture is dangerously close.”

Allyson Brink

the 3 msgs…… i am sooo deeply sorry the alex g ex story got out of hand 😭 pls delete n don’t waste creative energy on a stranger’s petty ex drama and failure to use a tip line correctly…

gm

I think they are similar, but not really enough to say The Substance is a remake, paying homage to or ripping off The Neon Demon. They have some themes with each other though.

eyes.

my job has infinite invisible perks but we’re not allowed to tell people when we’re closing because it’s “rude” so i just have to bring all the racks in, turn around the closed sign and wait for them to notice. it makes me look like a huge bitch.

izzy

On a slightly serious note, I think the way Kay plays Skyrim is a great example of "You don't have to be good at your hobbies to enjoy them" I'm someone who has a history of playing super competitive games as if they're life or death. Recently I've been playing more chill games like Tetris while listening to MEATBUS and it's been soooooo much more relaxing than pretending like my entire bloodline is on the line every time I play a video game. Keep the ring on Kay :D

Bea G

Didn't come for the whip and nae nae, but I stayed for the whip and nae nae.

Zachary Law

I saw it opening night and I haven't stopped thinking or talking about it since. It’s extremely good and hands down the best movie of the year. Such a magical experience and YES see it in theaters!!! You cannot wait until it releases on streaming/DVD. You need the sound a theater gives you to fully experience it

Chanler

Im so glad y'all gave us your thoughts on "the substance"! I'm with Kay on using cheats in videogames that are solo/single player there is no harm in it to me, as long as it's not a speedrun or competition thing.

ChopperLBP

1:12 my very best friend of ten years is a ginger gay man who has a degree in natural resources and my jaw is on the floor

Gabbi Saunders

You break my heart Ethan 👉👈🥲

george

But the neon demon was bad :(

Ethan Velez

Tbh, I wish more people would talk about how The Substance is basically an homage/remake/rip-off of The Neon Demon. The story and messaging is very similar and kinda similar in it's interpretation of the genre of horror. And THE SCORE, again I'm so sad that they didn't hire the guy who did the score for The Neon Demon, but if anyone here likes the music in The Substance, look up Julian Winding. Genius. Also, Cliff Martinez. The two of them were basically the sonic blueprint for this movie. (And it seems that nobody noticed 😭)

george

Revenge was sooooooo bad are you kidding me it's the same director????

george

I don't care about your respect Alex, please hate me of you will. I'll love your yap regardless. 💁‍♀️

george

"So what now?" I was really imagining miss Banks appearing out of a huge puff of tina smoke

george

On Skyrim: it's basically an open-source project at this point, and the fact that Bethesda's name is still tied to it is just evidence to how copyright laws hurt us all. Live your RPG life Kay, fuck the haters. I live by pChal Jan's words of advice when it comes to games like this. If it's fun for you, it's the right way to play. X

george

omg so excited for u to get a fat little foxy chihuahua they are so underrated

Gabbi Saunders

Faking it till u make it is so true tho, y'all literally admitted to it, but like the semantics are kinda murky

george

4?:?? Can we address Kay's Australian accent? And can we please have more of it?

george

36:30 "going above and beyond is a scam"I want this as a live laugh love poster x

george

31:45 invisible perks at my job a few years b4: seeing training doctors being fools and shake in their boots in front of their superiors (after trying to get away with bs)

george

28:00 Alex: what am I like 90? Gurl, you almost fainted at the movies, my granny would have faired better. Then again she's Eastern European survived wwII so maybe that's a high bar idk.

george

Imma live react to this in my replies lol 14:30: Is Kay thinking about Grand Marnier?

george

i got to see it last week and wasn’t too sure about it until like the last 30 minutes, then it had me hootin and hollerin. 10/10 best movie going experience.

mads

THE WAY I JUMPED AT THIS NOTIFICATION

george


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