BSC After Dark 18: Matthew's Birth Narrative.
Added 2023-06-22 00:21:55 +0000 UTCPresenting the June 2023 installment of Born in the Second Century After Dark, in which the host presents an analysis of the Birth Narrative in Matthew's Gospel.
The episode presents, as a starting point, Raymond Brown's analysis of the Birth Narrative in Matthew as being a composite story. From there, the focus is placed on late dating as well as Matthew's intent to link his artificial "Magi" story with the Testimonia collections.
This episode is in MP3 format.
Comments
That was in Vern Gagne's camp. Everybody (Ricky Steamboat, Ken Patera, ect) corroborated that those camps were as bad as Flair said.
Mark Frobom
2023-07-14 17:47:41 +0000 UTCThank you, and I have always indeed been frustrated at how cursory was the treatment of source criticism stuff, and Patristics, not only on radical shows but even on ostensible Biblical Studies shows like NT Review. I would occasionally think that maybe that's because those subjects don't translate well onto audio, but for some reason I never believed that, which is good, because with testimony like yours it shows that this kind of content can be done. I'm surprised that I haven't made as many Ric Flair references on the show now that I think about it. But then again I only know his career vaguely. I did listen to a good podcast, Lapsed Fan, that went over his time in AWA and I think it drew from his autobiography. That was interesting; he said that his training was to get suplexed 100 times a day, slammed 100 times a day etc, and he did that until a veteran friend told him that it was stupid and he was gonna end his career within 5 years if he did that. But the source criticism for my wrestling references will indicate that I was an Attitude Era WWF fan.
Christopher Palmero
2023-07-14 15:31:37 +0000 UTCAlso I should add that you are doing some very valuable work there, extrapolating Justin's gospel from his works and such. You are not just opining bullshit, but putting it on "paper" where it might live on according to it's merit. I appreciate your re-piquing my interest in Matthew ect. The last year for me has one of personal upheaval, and the only " Source Criticism" that I have been capable of is to scrutinize old films of Gorgeous George and Buddy Rogers for signs of being sources for Ric Flair bits. Your shows are interesting, and help my brain to start getting away from Ric Flair, and "back to Jesus".
Mark Frobom
2023-07-10 01:59:38 +0000 UTCOh, my apologies. I did read this in time, and when I pulled it up again just now I regret very much that I didn't take detailed notes on it earlier, which I had meant to (I have now saved it locally to remind myself to do so). Because I remembered from the first time reading it, that the parallels that you mentioned might answer my Sepphoris question (that I raised as a "First Century Problem," as to why the Gospels don't mention Sepphoris). If the parallel with Josephus' Life, taken in conjunction with your comments on the date of Mark's Gospel, are indeed meaningful, then that would go some way towards resolving the difficulty because I don't think the lack of mention of Sepphoris is easily explained on any other Traditional or Radical theory.
Christopher Palmero
2023-07-10 01:42:23 +0000 UTCThat was just from an appendix of a paper I wrote on the possible (probable in my view) influence of Josephus' Vita on Mark 14. (Journal of Higher Criticism 16.2, 2021, pp.52-124). I sent you that paper awhile back, but I can send it again if need be or it's on Kindle. I'll put the next iteration on Academia. I assume (obviously) that there was a Moses/Amram tradition behind Josephus` Moses story, but is/are there arlier extant version(s)? If there are it would further support my view that Matthew might have got it from a mutual source, and that he used precious little Josephus directly. I do believe that Matthew did recognize Mark's debt to Josephus, but I have admittedly idiosyncratic reasons for believing this.
Mark Frobom
2023-07-10 01:31:46 +0000 UTCOh I really love Buck Rogers and in fact, when I do a series about the Tacitus passage (Annals 15.44) that's gonna be what my intro is based on. (No one mentioned the fire for FIVE...HUNDRED...YEARS). I may see if I can acquire the one-time rights for the theme. (I mean that of the TV show. As for the classic radio intro I might do an homage to that somewhere else)
Christopher Palmero
2023-06-22 15:17:01 +0000 UTCI have a great uncle (not even. my great aunts late life common law husband) with an enormous collection of old buck rogers type etc shows on various recorded formats that i may be the only family member that even cares about preserving them. its massive
Fozzymandias
2023-06-22 04:04:55 +0000 UTCThank you; I actually had more to say about that but I cut it from the master. I said that you can listen to old radio shows and serials online and that they're valued cultural products, yet many old podcasts episodes aren't worth revisiting, but then I thought it wasn't strictly accurate and some listeners wouldn't like the comment. So I removed it, but I still think there's a qualitative difference between the two.
Christopher Palmero
2023-06-22 03:52:16 +0000 UTCsweet
Fozzymandias
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