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The end of ILLUSION

EDIT: So apparently this was just a really bizarre rebranding(?), and they will continue making games under the ILLGAMES brand, starting with a KK-styled HoneySelect game (more info and mirror of trial on the discord server). Old games are still being pulled off the stores though.

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As some of you may already know, ILLUSION has sadly announced that they are closing down, starting today.

No new games or updates to existing games will be made, and on 2023/08/18 all of their existing games will be pulled off of Steam, DLsite and other stores. This means it will become impossible to get games made by ILLUSION legally after that point unless you buy a used disc. If you want to own KK and/or HS2 on Steam, make sure to buy it before that point!

It's unclear if VRKanojo and similar offshoots will be affected, but I'd buy it sooner rather than later if you were already thinking about it.

Twitter announcement post

Closure roadmap on their official website

If you'd like to discuss this and get up to date information, hop on the KK and/or IS discord servers. These servers are unaffiliated so they will not be affected.

What does this mean for existing users and modders?

In practice, nothing will change for their released games (like KK or HS2). The games will keep working while mods and unofficial patches will continue to be made and maintained.

The only difference for me is that I'll start looking for games from other companies to mod and make patches for instead of waiting for new games from Illusion.

Well, shucks :(

It's truly a sad day today, as they've been one of the oldest and the most consistent 3D eroge makers in history, and they've created many cult classic series like Artificial Girl, Artificial Academy, and many others. They'll now join TeaTime and REAL in the nostalgia land of HongFire and the old internet days :(

I hope that everyone has a good weekend. If anyone from Illusion reads this, please let me thank you for the countless hours of entertainment you've brought to me and many others. I wish you the best in your future endeavours.

Comments

Do you know if I can get out the censure in steam base kk using mod?

Ellen Tavares

https://www.patreon.com/posts/hf-patch-for-rg-76844340

ManlyMarco

Just popping in to express my wish for Room Girl Paradise to get modded. Thanks for all you do!

vladeemer

guess you get to do what you do xD Looking forward to your new stuff soon

asd asdas

I don't think so. We don't really know what happen to Illusion internally, people suspect it's debt or what sort. Illusion is officially no more, which is why all products are being pulled. Illgames is a totally "new" branding that has nothing to do with illusion don't think they can legally just sell the old products officially unless illusion was actually absorb by Illgames which is not what happened

asd asdas

Damn no wonder. Now its up to making creations by myself..

OriUni

i think th new game , a honey select 3 ++ , they need a lot money , and with this stunt , they will basically make illusion hoard a lot of money for illgame to use.

MpMan

I'm starting to get the impression that "Illusion" really sucks at communicating with their audiences.

Ozzy Puzzles

If this was a separate company then they wouldn't be able to use assets from KK and HS2, and the trial definitely has some. Like I said it's just bizarre.

ManlyMarco

I think Illusion and Illgames are two separate companies. The person(s) with assess with Illusion's "@Projecti18" Twitter is involved with Illgames though, so I would say that it's safe to assume that Illgames is a spiritual successor to Illusion, but the key word here is "spiritual". I don't believe that Illusion's catalogue of games have been transferred to Illgames, so I think that the old Illusion games will still cease to be sold.

idrisz19

So, wait, was this all a marketing stunt? Also they're still taking their "old games" off the store? Do they mean games that are actually old, or every game that was under the Illusion brand.

Ozzy Puzzles

That’s good to hear is just a rebranding

Frostfx23

Well shucks!!!! (To the rebranding)

Diakai

Lame. I just dropped over $500 buying their library. All their games will likely be back after they rebrand all of them too. Super lame... Huzzah!

Eric J

Good thing I backed the patch up then. Phew!

Chloe Saunders

Oh well, I still bought the remaking games before they get pulled either way

Dr.Sheperd#0004

They seem to have started a new game maker called ILLGAMES.

kn ny

No I meant like your own original IP that is IN Functionality Similar to Koikatsu but instead maybe using Vroid Models

Joshua Bautch

I don't think this is said enough but thanks for all your work, Marco. Sad news indeed.

Clutch

Depends, Steam versions are cheaper once you include DLCs. KK darkness doesn't work on the steam version but most people don't even want it. After you install HF Patch then the content is pretty much the same otherwise in all of the games. DLsite versions are only in Japanese while Steam versions are in Japanese, English and Chinese. HF Patch adds English to the JP-only releases.

ManlyMarco

The parent company still owns the IP and does not seem interested in selling it so it's still copyright protected.

ManlyMarco

Yeah, it's a real shame. As unlikely as it was, now we definitely won't get AG4 or AA3. I'm not going to give up so no worries.

ManlyMarco

Cards servers are being brought down since Illusion is closing down.

ManlyMarco

The steam version has both the base game and the DLC included.

ManlyMarco

Holding on from buying HS2 cause in Steam there is HS2LibidoDX and in DLSite it says that the HS2LibidoDX is a DLC so Steam sells only the dlc? So waiting if anyone can clarify me that.... at least before the 18.

$@uron

Your suggestion presumably requires a game engine with VRM support, so I suggested Godot.

idrisz19

what does that have to do with my suggestion?

Joshua Bautch

But is there's a difference between the steam and the DL Site version like cut content? And I mean if the game is translated to English in DL site. And thanks for the suggestion of the VPN.

$@uron

Is the download section of the game down as well? it wont load any characters for me

Frozen Saiyajin

Concerning Vroid models, the V-Sekai team is currently working on adding VRM 1.0 support to Godot via a plug-in.

idrisz19

Real sad news really. Grew up playing their games like Biko and even the infamous Ra*eLay which was actually one of my favorite game by them. Guess good things never last forever. Though I must say.. their quality has been dropping for many years now despite tech improved. Probably because the older staffs were already no longer with the company. P.S don't stop Marco the ero game community needs you 😂

asd asdas

or hell, why not make a love letter or memorial to Illusion Soft by pulling together a team to make your OWN version of Koikatsu? (and maybe one that uses Vroid models)

Joshua Bautch

Thank u just used the hf patch. I thought that was the case with the site as the company is winding down

emptysteve

If u use DL site u need to use a VPN as ur country may block u accessing the site and PayPal to buy the games. As I just brought sunshine. When I used internet explorer it translated the site to English for me.

emptysteve

Which version is better the steam or the dl site one... and is the DL site version in English?

$@uron

I'm not going to leave. The problem with maids is that the community is pretty entrenched and it's all paid DLC so there's not much space for a patch that avoids including paid stuff.

ManlyMarco

Yes, it's included. Official illusion site is down and will probably not come back up since they are closing down.

ManlyMarco

Do not use winrar. Pretty much any other modern file archiver should work, I recommend 7zip. If you have bin files then you can't extract them, use the .exe file included with the bin files to install the patch.

ManlyMarco

The HF Patch files all say damaged or unreadable when trying to read them through winrar.

Nathanael L Golser

just bought kk party from steam and cant access the special patch from illusion site as it says internal error. does the hf patch include? sorry im new to this

emptysteve

Could you switch support to Custom order maid 3d 2 if you are going to leave koikatsu behind because of this? They still release dlc to this day.

El Chunko

See https://docs.bepinex.dev/articles/advanced/proton_wine.html

ManlyMarco

HoneySelect2 recently was verified as playable on steamdeck. Will the patch be able to run on steamdeck too?

J Willson

You can still use the DLC but you must install HF Patch afterwards or it won't work properly with the Steam version of the game. If you have the DLC on Steam then it will work fine without the patch.

ManlyMarco

So if i bought koikatsu on steam and buy the after party dlc on DLsite would there be a problem with installation?

Astro

HAD to be August. >.> this news Sucks hard.

Joseph Page'

If you use HF Patch you don't have to do anything with locale.

ManlyMarco

Never bought a game on DLsite before, anyone know if you can run KKS without converting your PC over to Japanese? Or is that just a warning they put on everything from their site in case there isnt an english version?

Sabre Mushy

If you feel like a *serious* challenge - bring Illusion Style Game and Story Mechanics to Virt-a-Mate. 😹

Jonathon Barton

You can't really buy the DLC if you have the Fakku version unfortunately. If you got lucky and cosmic rays flipped a lot of bits on your drive in the shape of the DLC, you might have been able to copy it into the game and make it work though.

ManlyMarco

i'm with Sndragon. i was really waiting to see where illusion, as well as the rest of the community would go with this. i've seen quite a few different styles/types games created with illusion as the base platform. i was really hoping to to see more genre specific games as well. or something with koikatsu's control/mechanics and hs&ai shoujo graphics

Zachariah McElrath

So, while back I picked up "Koikatsu Party" on Fakku!. Fakku! never released the "After Party" DLC. Could I pick it up the "After Party" DLC on Steam, and use it with the Fakku! version of Koikatsu, or would that DLC only work with the Steam version of the game?

Nobody

I already have Party not Sunshine. a %18 coupon can make Sunshine with all the stuff $93 to $76.

Michaelous

If you want to play it as a game or for H (especially in VR) and you have to pick one, go for KKS. Both are mostly equivalent but KKS has better performance at the cost of cards/scenes not being loadable in KK.

ManlyMarco

Yes but getting it on steam is cheaper.

ManlyMarco

I see Koikatsu Sunshine complete set on DL would this be good?

Michaelous

Thank you, went through the trouble of getting Sunshine on FANZA, but DLsite looks like it'll be an easier alternative to get the Sunshine expansion on my next paycheck.

Commander Cream

Sunshine is better in my personal opinion

Johnny Hwipp

Awesome! Good to know about copying the installed file!

Diakai

If i were to choose between sunshine and regular koikatsu which one would you recommend?

John Tejada

A truly sad day we wont forget! If you're looking for something new, maybe you can get involved in Projekt Melody's Big Bang Studio game engine.

KuromaruFan

If you own the game on Steam you will be able to download it just fine, no need to also get it on DLsite. You can also just copy the installed game somewhere safe if you want to keep a backup too.

ManlyMarco

Almost definitely it's not coming.

ManlyMarco

Yes, if you own the game on Steam or DLsite you will be able to download it just fine. Not sure about DMM but it should be the same. You can just copy the installed game somewhere safe if you want to keep a backup too.

ManlyMarco

I saw the news on Steam... 😔 So if I have a couple of these on Steam, should I go to to https://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/ and buy them there too to save the install files? Looks like they have them on 10% sale there right now too.

Diakai

Does that mean that Koikatsu Sunshine isn't coming to Steam on August 27th?

LateGamer547

So that im clear, if I were to uninstall kk because something went wrong with a update try to reinstall I will be fine right?

Bri

A darkest day indeed. But this is the reason why I picked up everything from them on DLsite today and Discovered you in github.

Qian Yifan

Wouldn´t it be great if the World turned always around you ? LOL, but sorry, it doesn´t !!! The fact an original game with dicks and pussies, being sold at original price, coming vanilla with censorship is not WOKENESS at all, oh no it isn´t, tell you what, it is a glitch, dam Devs, a sad coincidence

Fonseca

Omg save this shit for reddit. Woke is by far the most boring, lazy and uncritical critique of society.

Morepork

KK, HS2, AIS, KKS out of the recent ones.

ManlyMarco

Get it on DLsite, which is fairly friendly to international audience and supports PayPal and such. If it's not available on there then don't bother, they went out of their way to make it difficult to buy their games outside of Japan.

ManlyMarco

Unfortunately, I can't. The money is needed for other things.

Chloe Saunders

It's still available on dmm for now. You have about a month to buy what you need.

kiterunnerdio

Godd*mn it. Here I thought that with the advent of AI, their next step of evolution would be AI + VR Koikatsu. Which company should I place my hope in now T-T ?

Sndragon

That's really sad :(

Pyroman31FF

Guess it's fitting that one of their last games was tropical themed, because while their fans were enjoying the bikini beach setting; there was trouble in paradise.

Ozzy Puzzles

I guess, but I'll need to find it first. I can't buy it now.

Chloe Saunders

As an American I need a guide to pick up their titles because I'm not familiar with how they handle dl of their past games.

Sir Valentine

That's a shame. I kept putting it off, but I should probably pick up some of those expansions while I still can.

TheProfessorsLeft

Well shit witch of there games do you recommend I grab before they take them off?

Ruben

You can still play the JP version, it's almost fully fan translated.

ManlyMarco

Life and horniness always finds a way.

ManlyMarco

Definitely Miconisomi games, especially the upcoming one. If anyone knows of similar games please let me know.

ManlyMarco

Sad news indeed. I started Koikatsu a little over a year ago and I gotta say I love it. Shame others won't be able to enjoy it soon if they don't have it

StoicThinker

Well my hopes of an Artificial Academy 3 type game with Koikatsu character creation system is over I guess. Any idea on what games you might want to work on?

RaijinRonin

Yeah I highly doubt the reason why the game company based in the country that's more accepting of sexual content in media shutted down because of "woke society". You're thinking of groups like Christians or loud women groups who are strongly against porn and the sexualization of women, but even then I highly doubt that's why they shutted down (let alone cause of a buzzword) considering they've been dealing with those critics for decades.

Ozzy Puzzles

Yes.

ManlyMarco

Will you still update and maintain the HF packs for illusion games?

Jovanie Rodriguez

Thanks for reply, Marco. I'm a TC speaker and I'd say the KKP official TC localization is amazing. Too bad the time had come for Illusion to take leave of us...

Reinstenberg

They're closing down? Noooooooo! I was looking forward to Koikatsu Sunshine!

Chloe Saunders

Yes, it's tied to your account.

ManlyMarco

What if I switch computers? Will I still be able to re-download it?

Maxamilian Meeker

Doesn't look like it will happen. Fan translation is getting close to complete though.

ManlyMarco

How could this happen? I'm still waiting for KKS to be localized!

Reinstenberg

So both Koikatsu and Koikatsu sunshine?

setsuna200

Entire publisher shutdown. Not just steam but everywhere

AnimeArtStalker

Nvm just bought Koikatsu anyway lol. Not risking it

AnimeArtStalker

That really sucks, i was hoping to buy HS2 soon but not this soon, why are they removing the games from steam?

Cjhappy

I doubt this was the cause, they most likely got into financial trouble after multiple underperforming game releases. Mods won't be affected by this, don't worry.

ManlyMarco

Yes, you keep access to any game you bought on Steam even if the developer pulls it down.

ManlyMarco

Well shit glad I grabbed Honey Select DX 2 while I did. According to their Steam announcement I'll still be able to play it. May grab Koikatsu before the 18th but I can't drop $100 on it at the moment.

AnimeArtStalker

They say so on the Steam announcement.

AnimeArtStalker

The problem with woke society, I hope you keep your HS2L Mods available cause Im buying a new PX a need to intall agsin, cheers and kerp up the goid work

Fonseca

Will the people who own KK on Steam still be able to play or even access it?

Maxamilian Meeker

RIP

TheYuriLover

It was an amazing journey

IZSM

I saw that new too,it is really sad😭

LosLos_Sensei

Saw the steam message really sucks that the can’t continue making games

lyr


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